Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.

"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."

Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments."

The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.

THE NEW HITLER,THIS ONE GIVES ME CHILLS (DRUDGE )

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 9:29 AM

For those who wanted to give-up on Europe as dissipated whore-like dhimmi who are in total denial, look at those above numbers. If that poll is correct, the Germans are more aware of the faults and dangers of Islam than Americans.

As we know Europe faces a far more serious problem. They will rise to the occasion. Perhaps not soon enough but eventually their residual desire for self-preservation will kick in.

Posted by: JasonP at May 19, 2006 9:40 AM

storagemanager-

do you have a link for that article?

Posted by: treehugger at May 19, 2006 9:43 AM

here ya go.........http://www.drudgereport.com/

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 9:47 AM

for GOD hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will and to agree and give their kingdom unto the beast (ISLAM).until the words of GOD shall be fulfilled.revelation 17:17......islam fills the bill....not all will hear this.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 9:55 AM

So anyone think that this will make the mainstream news?

Just ignore it and discuss the outrage of the Christian's over the DaVinci Code instead. That is SO much more important./

Posted by: Borg at May 19, 2006 10:08 AM

Could it be that at long last that the majority population of a large, advanced contemporary non-Muslim nation has come to recognize the totalitarian, political ideology that Islam really is? If so, then measures should be taken to declare Islam as such in order to marginalize it, control it, and hopefully eradicate it from the free world. De-Islamification in Germany must follow the same path as it did with de-Nazification.

Posted by: neurorenegade at May 19, 2006 10:09 AM

It's good to see that the Master Race was able to catch a glimmer of the reality thing before being snuffed out by the Fast-Breed welfare recipients they so generously support.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 19, 2006 10:13 AM

China, Russia Pushing US-Israel Closer To Confrontation With Iran

May 19….(Bill Wilson) The refusal of China and Russia to take any kind of substantive United Nations Security Council action against Iran is actually pushing the United States and Israel ever closer to a military confrontation with Iran. Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knows he does not have to bow to pressure from Europe and the United States because he has the undaunted support of China and Russia. China and Russia have consistently said they will not support any sanctions or military action against Iran. America’s Ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, has said that every discussion with Russia is difficult and every negotiation won is only after painstaking and often contentious debate. Evidence of this is found after Wednesday’s UN Security Council vote encouraging Syria to establish borders and diplomatic relations with Lebanon. The vote was unanimous except for Russia and China who abstained because they said it was “unnecessary meddling.”
http://focusonjerusalem.com/newsroom.html

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 10:15 AM

The mainstream media is on a campaign to paint the German's as racist. Can't have any country trying to maintain their culture. Can we?/

Posted by: Borg at May 19, 2006 10:16 AM

FOJ Note: Just yesterday the US Congress voted to allow illegal aliens to be rewarded with American Social Security, and debated about whether or not the English language is the national language. I thought this was decided in 1776. The multiculturalism concept of the UN and the Social Globalists has rendered America as a multi-divided nation, and its timing is in congruence with the terrorist designs to destroy America. America’s hedges of protection are all about gone. FOJ has documented how the terrorists are using the porous borders with Mexico to infiltrate America to lie-in-wait for the next 9-11 call.

It is ironic that America today is sensing the need to construct a security wall along its southern border in the wake of its decades long policy of coercing Israel into compromising its covenanted land, and having to build security walls around its remaining land to keep out Palestinian terrorists! Could judgment be coming home to roost?
http://focusonjerusalem.com/newsroom.html

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 10:21 AM

This is how the German PEOPLE see islam. What about the politicians?

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at May 19, 2006 10:23 AM

Please forgive the copy/paste.

RD
===============================================

Why Iran wants War?
Ahmadinejad & Co. starring in Armageddon

By: Slater Bakhtavar
2006/05/17

“The Iranian nation will wipe the strain of regret on the foreheads of those
who want to bring about injustice”, President Ahmadinejad scorned at a
recent rally in the province of Zanjan . Iran “will cut off the hands of any
aggressor”, any attack would be met with a response that is double-fold
including suicide attacks across Europe and the United States , he warned.
“ Israel should be wiped off the map”, the predominately Jewish nation
“cannot survive” and is headed “towards extinction” quipped the fanatical
President.

If one were to listen to his rhetoric alone, even the most astute political
intellectuals would think Iran is a nation equipped with the most dangerous
military arsenal capable of challenging any nation. But Iran ’s rhetoric has
little to do with their outdated and dismal military, their fledging economy
or their detested government. The root of the government’s fiery tone may be
traced to their Shi’te ideology messianic belief in a mysterious, mystical
twelfth imam who ventured into hiding over a thousand years ago.

The Hidden Imam is a central concept in the teachings of Shi’te Islam. Born
Muhammad al-Mahdi he ventured into a cave in 941 AD hidden by a gate called the Gate of Occultation. The doctrine of Occultation professes Allah aided the cloaking of the Imam away from the eyes of man so that he could be kept alive until his return. Shi’tes believe that the Twelfth Imam will return to
lead the religious battle between good and evil when the world has become
consummately nefarious.

According to Shi’te orthodoxy humans may not force or hasten the return of
the Imam, but the Hojjateiehs a group of which Ahmadinejad is a member,
opine that humans may stir up chaos to encourage his return. With his
recent rhetoric vowing for the destruction of Israel, demanding deportation
of the Jews to Europe and denying the Holocaust that the President seems to
be doing just that. In fact, his messianic axiom of the Twelfth Imam and the
subsequent suppression of the forces of evil [modern day US, UK, Israel and
many other nations] is central to Ahmadinejad’s foreign policy. The Iranian
government’s official policy has undercut efforts of the international
community by rejecting a United Nations deadline to suspend Iran’s nuclear
program, threatening to quit the Non-Proliferation Treaty and vying that
“nothing can stop Iran’s path to nuclear technology.” In anticipation of a
stand off with the West Iran recently clinched agreements with eight
different Middle East insurgency groups to carry out suicide attacks against
Israeli, British and US interests across the world. Ironically this plan is
called ‘Judgment Day.’

During a private meeting with an Iranian cleric in November Ahmadinejad
claimed that while giving a speech before the United Nations he felt “the
atmosphere change and for 27 to 28 minutes the leaders did not blink” “they
were astonished.. it had opened their eyes and ears to the Islamic
Republic.” He further said that he felt the hand of God upon him as he
delivered his omniscient speech. In his egocentric fantasy world the Iranian
President likely sees himself as a deputy of the Imam with a divine mission
to encourage his arrival. His references to the Imam in conjunction with
threats to wipe countries off the face of earth should be taken seriously.
Foreign policy experts should examine the Islamic Republic from both a
political and religious perspective. To the clerical regime the return of
the Imam is not a mere possibility, but a surety. Their attitude towards the
international community seems to point at their preparation for that day.

International concerns aside, there are domestic reasons for the regimes
erratic behavior. After 27 years of executions, floggings, stoning,
oppression of political dissent, violation of women’s rights, oppression of
religious minorities, the largest brain drain in the world, rampant
prostitution, crime, drug use and mass unemployment the Islamic Republic is
domestically quite loathed. In fact, recent student polls show that close
to eighty five percent of the population supports fundamental democratic
changes in the regime. Iranian students have consistently poured into the
streets in pro-Democracy protests only to be violently suppressed, jailed,
tortured and often murdered. But, dictatorships can only oppress for so long
and it’s only a matter of time before Iran explodes in a pro-Western
democratic revolution. The regime knows that the only way they can leave
any kind of legacy is by invoking nationalistic pride by pushing the country
into another war and unlike the Iran-Iraq war this time they’re paving the
way for the return of the Twelfth Imam.

From challenging the world to enhancing Iran’s nuclear programs every issue
is implemented for the arrival of Mahdi. The Islamic Republic is not vying
for war because they’re too arrogant to understand they will be crushed.
They’re vying for war because they believe Mahdi will return to help them
defeat the United States and others who dare stand up to them. Ahamadinejad
and Company’s Armageddon may be coming to a theater near you and it’s
probably the scariest movie we’ll ever see unless we aggressively invest in
the overthrow of the regime before it’s debut appearance.

Posted by: habnab at May 19, 2006 10:23 AM

storagemanager,
Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.

That thread is on over on DW.

Posted by: western infidel at May 19, 2006 10:25 AM

Posted by: western infidel ......this story should be all over the media....shout it from the rooftops!

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 10:37 AM

Germans seem more concerned with Tom Cruise's cult than Islam.

Do people go chopping heads off after reading L Ron Hubbard?

Do people go chopping heads off after reading Mein Koran?

Guess which cult is banned in Deutchland?

Posted by: Sebastien at May 19, 2006 10:38 AM

I found nothing on the Wiesenthal Center site about an Iranian move to force non-Muslims to wear distinctive clothing. I am leary about anything from Drudge because they have been proven unreliable.

Iranian shopkeepers however are required to post their religious affiliation outside their businesses.

Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at May 19, 2006 10:44 AM

61 per cent of those surveyed said they believed there would always be "major conflicts" between both faiths.

It's not a "conflict." It's Islamic aggression and external force historically and eventually needed to beat it back. Very simple.

A total of 56 per cent said they believed "a clash of civilizations" had already begun,

Oh yeahhhhh, that's what it is, a "clash." Islam's not aggressive, surrrre, bridge for sale.

Posted by: Report at May 19, 2006 10:52 AM

OT, but somewhat related to this article: I argue these things quite a bit at Deviantart, an artist's site. Very rarely do any of my threads last long: they are mostly ignored, except by those few who in the same mode of thought as myself. A great many focus on how bad Christianity is, how bad the US/Republicans are, how racist Europe is getting.....

However this bit about the new Iranian law is getting some good coverage. Maybe this is what is finally going to get some people's attention.

Posted by: Gary at May 19, 2006 11:21 AM

The Islamic Republic is too arrogant to understand they will be crushed.

Neither are these Moslems too arrogant nor are they arrogant at all. They are Moslems.

Now, the person who wrote the above statement must come to understand that arrogance is intrinsic is Islam. Please, call a spade a spade and call a Moslem a Moslem, not arrogant.

... recent student polls show that close to eighty five percent of the population supports fundamental democratic changes in the regime. Iranian students have consistently poured into the streets in pro-Democracy protests.

If these putative Moslem protesters in Iran are not calling for rejection of Islam, then this is a terribly naïve thing to say.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 19, 2006 11:40 AM

habnab, that article is a very good summary of Ahmadinejad's apocalyptic views. Except whe the article starts veering into the territory of "the Iranians are standing by with rose petals to toss on the coming U.S. liberators":

the Islamic Republic is domestically quite loathed. In fact, recent student polls show that close to eighty five percent of the population supports fundamental democratic changes in the regime. Iranian students have consistently poured into the streets in pro-Democracy protests only to be violently suppressed, jailed, tortured and often murdered. But, dictatorships can only oppress for so long and it’s only a matter of time before Iran explodes in a pro-Western democratic revolution.

Iran may well explode, but I'm guessing the Middle East Experts (tm) will again be stumped when it doesn't quite turn into a "pro-Western democratic revolution". Every time the media starts to get it right about the danger posed by Islamic religious "extremists", they somehow feel obliged to then tell us it is only a "few extremists" holding the "vast majority of moderates" prisoner. It's a sacred assumption that must never be questioned.

"Dictatorships can only oppress for so long"; but dictatorships have oppressed for 1400 years in almost (hi, Israel) every country in the Middle East. Again there is the assumption that every culture on the planet shares the Western values of freedom, democracy, education, separation of church and state, etc. The influence of Islam and sharia were just a passing fancy for the Iranians (and Iraqis and Afghanis). We just need to click our ruby heels three times, close our eyes, and keep repeating the phrase "they all want to be just like us".

Posted by: special_guest at May 19, 2006 11:45 AM

"A total of 56 per cent said they believed 'a clash of civilizations had already begun..."
-- from the article above

The phrase "clash of civilizations" misleads. For that "s" is an indefinite plural, and implies, for many, that there may be equally grave clashes between the various "civliziations" identified, for example, by Samuel Huntington (the phrase itself comes from Bernard Lewis), which implies that the Sinic, and the Orthodox, and the Catholic, and the Hindu, and the Muslim, and any others one cares to identify, are all somehow clashing each with each.

But they aren't. There is only one clash that has lasted through the last 1350 years, and it is the clash that comes from the ideology of Islam, inculcated into its Believers, whereby the world is divided between Believers and Infidels, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb. That is not a "clash of civilizations." It is a permanent threat, posed by the belief-system of Islam, to all Infidels. A clear comprehension of the textual origins, as well as the instruments of Jihad, and of the full menace of that threat, should not be muddied by anecdotal evidence ("I have a close Muslim friend at work who says..."), by wishful thinking ("but surely if we all act as if it doesn't say what it says, then it won't matter, will it"?), by vanity (as in the case of Lewis, who for so long -- until last night, apparently -- was willing to belittle Bat Ye'or and others who saw things clearly, and who consistently failed to comprehend the entire question of the dhimmi, despite a book on Jews under Islam, and who, furthermore, was too desirous of not offending Muslim friends, patrons, and academic colleagues. Apparently Lewis, like Maxine Rodinson -- who at the end of his life was praising Ibn Warraq and Bat Ye'or, and like S. D. Goitein, who admitted in the introduction to "A Mediterranean Society" that he had had many of his cherished views comletely changed by his study of the Cairo Geniza material (including the crushing effect of the Jizyah) -- Lewis may, in his own way, have finally admitted that, as with Oslo, he was wrong, and as he did not do with Oslo, perhaps he is also now willing to admit that what he was wrong about was that the doctrines of Islam are immutable, and explain not only why the Oslo Accords were a farce and a fraud, but that the entire Light Unto the Muslim Nations campaign in Iraq, with which Lewis had a good deal to do. Did Bernard Lewis, in his talk yesterday, take note of his own 2002 prediction that the "liberation of Baghdad would make the liberation of Kabul seem like a funeral procession"? Did he take rueful note of that absurd thing he wrote with Woolsey proposing, without specifically naming, Prince Hassan as a conceivable Sunni monarch for a Shi'a-dominated Iraq? One would like some kind of owning up to these series of misunderstandings that all have the same explanation -- and it would be nice if Lewis were to do so publicly, and not in sessions for a select private audience.

Posted by: Hugh at May 19, 2006 11:45 AM

And I think you will find these same negative perceptions growing across Europe. The Elite have started to see how the wind is blowing so they are starting to look at immigration. I think that in Germany someone is looking at the Quran in legal terms if it is against the German constitution. I hope that the Germans ban Islam, they could do, as Islam is a classic cult.

I am feeling happier and happier, immigration control gets passed in France and now this, the Elite can not ignore this now, its too damn big, though they will try.

Posted by: Daffersd at May 19, 2006 11:59 AM

Hugh, I'm puzzled. What talk did Lewis give where and what did he say exactly?

Posted by: Rebecca JW at May 19, 2006 12:00 PM

Yes, Hugh. Please confirm that Lewis is still in the land of the living. Some poster on a Lebanese blogsite -- Across the Bay -- claimed Lewis had recently died, but I could find no such news.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at May 19, 2006 12:32 PM

I agreed with Huntington's 'Clash of Civilizations' theory and used to go to blogs where like minded people discussed it. One poster said that he agreed with the theory, but, he said that this is a clash between Civilization and the uncivilized. I forget his name, but he was from the U.S. Mr. Huntington was bang on about all things, except for the uncivilized part. All the same, he is a visionary, he saw what was coming, said it, was ridiculed, and now stands triumphant.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 19, 2006 12:34 PM

Another "image problem" for Islam. And apparently they aren't savvy enough to know that the modern answer to an "image problem" is what one of my economics professors once called a "don't-hate-us commercial."

We've all seen 'em, like when the tobacco companies air commercials highlighting their charitable/community outreach activities. Cheesy piano soundtrack, footage of children playing... it's pretty standardized.

Big Tobacco could teach Big Islam a thing or two, and they have so much in common: Using both products as directed causes suffering and death.

Posted by: Shinoliite at May 19, 2006 12:39 PM

Hugh,

What is important about Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" theory, is that it allows us to clearly define the lines between allies, neutrals and possible enemies in the war with Islam. We can not so easily count on the Orthodox to stride side by side with us against the Muslims as much as we might the Japanese, in my estimation. Why? Because the Orthodox have a long standing history of suspicion of the West and of the Catholic Church, while the Japanese, being their own unique culture and showing historically that they will act alongside or against any other nations dependent mainly on their logical assertion of national interests, AND being so deep in a mutual love affair with the United States (we love Godzilla and anime cartoons, they love our musicians and movies, etc.) today as a result of the end of WWII and how we have since treated each other, allows me to rest easily on that alliance when it is needed. But count on the Russians to not stab us in the back for oil or power? Heh.

But on the whole I agree that we should not allow ourselves to be mislead by notions of global conflict with nations like Russia and China, when we most certainly know that we have always been at war with Islam and are only now starting to realize it.

Robert Spencer wrote:

Why should Muslims who aren't committing acts of violence take any responsibility for this? Because Muslims who honestly condemn jihad terror should have no problem acknowledging that such acts of terror are the main reason why non-Muslims have a negative view on Islam. Consequently also they should recognize that only they can change such perceptions, by working against the jihad far more publicly and energetically, and in far larger numbers, than they have up to this point.

Robert,

I know full well by now that your clarity of thinking and diplomatic approach are fantastic strengths and I wish I had them on the level that you possess, but allow me to just say, that we all might as well strap tanks of laughing-gas to our backs and twist the valve every so often if we want to keep believing that Islam will ever reform itself.

Islam is never going to reform itself without the equivalent of the world stepping on its fingers, breaking its kneecaps and kicking in a few ribs. And even then it's not a sure bet. Islam is so deeply rooted in a culture of death-worship, that in my opinion it will be a threat to innocent life for as long as it exists on this planet. God help us if it sustains itself for another 1,000 years. If this cult ever projected itself of this world, well, we might turn to some good science fiction authors just to guess what the consequences might be for the nearby solar systems.

THAT is how sure I am that Islam is a virulent strain of ideology that can not fix itself. People do not like to think in finite terms and ultimates when it comes to human conflict, but we might very well be faced with a world war soon that will drive one side or the other to that very horrible conclusion. We know damn well that the worst of the Muslims would laugh with glee at our painful erradication at any price, so why should we continue to play this game like we are dealing with Monopoly money? We had better be prepared to play with knives, bullets and bombs. Islam already is.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 19, 2006 12:46 PM

Bang on Foehammer.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 19, 2006 12:51 PM

the way they think>>>>>Ayatollah Khamenei said that the mass media would have positive impacts on improving situation of the mankind and promoting international peace and security, but, they have become as tools in the hands of warmongers to ignite flames of war and promote a certain lifestyle in order to strip different nations of their cultural identity.

"The mass media should serve as a good venue for dialogue among nations in bilateral or multilateral forms to exchange views about culture, ethics and lofty humanitarian values," the Supreme Leader said.

Citing the example of "one-way propaganda of the international mass media", the Supreme Leader said that the international mass media are attributing "weapon production" to Iran's plan to produce nuclear energy, because they are working for the arms manufacturing companies and producers of destructive atomic bombs.

"They are spreading big lies every day. They do not reflect every day systematic genocide of defenseless Palestinians by the Zionist regime, but instead, they give full coverage if an explosion occurs and a few people get injured," Ayatollah Khamenei said.
DEFENSELESS SUCIDE BOMBERS FOR ALLAH!

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 12:56 PM

The world ignored Hitler for many years; he was dismissed as a demagogue, they said he'd never come to power - and we were all wrong," he said.

Efraim Zuroff, the director of the Wiesenthal Center in Israel, said in response, “This is simply a catastrophe; it automatically bring one back to the Holocaust, and we do not need to remind the Israeli public that the yellow badges came just before the expulsion and extermination.

“There is no consolation in the fact that Christians are being labeled as well. The Iranian regime has completely lost its mind. The world cannot stand idly by, and I’m sure this development will place the Iranian issue at the top of the agenda during Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s visit to Washington,” he said.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3252830,00.html

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 1:01 PM

Iran is the new Nazi order. Iran means "aryan". The Grand Mufti, Haj Amin Al Husseini, worked with Hitler and the Nazis to help control the Muslims in Lybia, Africa, and Persia. He later became the Grand Mufti of Palestine, and his nephew, whom he raised when the boy was orphaned, took control of Palestine after him. His nephew was Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, beter known to the West as Yasser Arafat.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/

http://www.answers.com/topic/amin-al-husayni

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at May 19, 2006 1:05 PM

From the article:

There is even considerable backing for ending Germany's constitutional right of freedom of religion with regard to Islam, the poll showed.

That statement on its own is one of the most important things I have read in years.

We should adopt this policy here in the United States A.S.A.P. Will we? No, not yet, unfortunately. We need more innocent blood on our streets first.

(Sometimes I think it would be easier to live a life ignorant of facts and the ability to surmise the future based on them and history, but then I remember that the consequence of that would be having once more to endure the same feeling I had on 9/11, when the "veil" is suddenly ripped away a second time. I don't think I'd like to experience that surreal nausea twice, so I'll suffer with seeing clearly.)

Posted by: Foehammer at May 19, 2006 1:21 PM

A total of 56 per cent "of Germans" said they believed "a clash of civilizations" had already begun, up from 46 per cent in 2004, the poll results showed.
+++++++++

The brain dead are finally becoming alive......

When will the european governments realize same and declare war on islam for their very survival????

Posted by: Texican at May 19, 2006 1:22 PM

thank you rush....its on his show...thank you

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 1:37 PM

"
Another "image problem" for Islam. And apparently they aren't savvy enough to know that the modern answer to an "image problem" is what one of my economics professors once called a "don't-hate-us commercial."
"

Shinoliite - I dont know about the states but these ads have already started - I am sitting here watching CNN and the majority of ads are for Arab Airlines - Arab telecoms companies and Holidays in Arab countries such as the Egyptian Red Sea Riviera - you know that wonderful place where bombs go of and incinerate western tourist on a regular basis.

I have noticed more and more of them with smiling muslim faces and that "aren't we just like you " look.
It also probably explains the Pro Islamic - Pro Arab biased reporting on CNN - after all they are being bankrolled by the islamists now.

Posted by: johnmac at May 19, 2006 1:51 PM

Instead of calling them suicide bombers, can't we all just call them what they are: mass murder?

Yes, in all fairness these mass murder bombers by having died in the act richly deserve their 72 peach-fuzz 11-yr old virgins. I'll give them that. Or, I mean that the koranic "god" will give them that. If they haven't finally run out of inventory, that is.

Btw, does a Moslima Mass Murder Bombers also get the 72 11-yr old virgins? And, if yes, are these 11-yr old virgins girls, boys, or scowling muftis?

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 19, 2006 1:55 PM

George Will has said this is not a clash of civilizations, but a clash of epochs.

Posted by: Television at May 19, 2006 1:59 PM

Islam is never going to reform itself without the equivalent of the world stepping on its fingers, breaking its kneecaps and kicking in a few ribs.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 19, 2006 12:46 PM

Amen to that Foehammer.

Posted by: km at May 19, 2006 2:00 PM

arjun.sevak:

check out memri.org for what Wafa Sultan, a Syrian born psychologist had to say on Al Jazeerah to a defender of Islam vis what we are witnessing today. She didn't care for the "clash of civilizations", and offered instead:

"The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete."

The video clip received over a million hits earlier this year:

http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1050

and here's a transcript in case the video file format doesn't work for you:

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP110706

Posted by: waterdragon52 at May 19, 2006 2:03 PM

Foehammer said

That statement on its own is one of the most important things I have read in years.

I sure agree with you on that. That is the sort of 180 degree change we need, from "Islam is the Religion of Peace" to "Islam is not a true religion". It is institutionalized violence, Arab supremecy, and political colonialism wrapped up in the sheeps' clothing of "religion". By their own religious book, Islam is incompatible with any government other than a theocracy that follows the literal interpretation of the Qur'an. That alone should be enough to remove it's protection as a "religion". The fact that it follows it up with justification for violence in order to replace the government with a theocracy just puts the exclamation mark on the proclamation.

Posted by: special_guest at May 19, 2006 2:18 PM

if you live long enough, just about anything is possible...

The Germans and Jews could actually be seen on the same side in a future world conflict. Who woulda thunk it? Their leaders should become good friends.

This Iranian leader is to be believed. I think the western leaders should actually believe what he is saying, Hitler told the world what he intended to do, then the western pascifist leaders said, 'He doesn't actually mean it.' He did... So does this Iranian.

Bush, Blair, Harper... Believe him.

Posted by: winston at May 19, 2006 2:20 PM

Report: Iran eyes badges for non-Muslims

=======================================

Harper: Iran clothing rules reminiscent of Nazis

Associated Press
Published: Friday, May 19, 2006

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=2949b7ed-f9db-42da-8471-b6b6de9b615e&k=72143

OTTAWA -- Prime Minister Stephen Harper says news reports that Iran could require Jews and Christians to wear coloured labels in public might be true.

He says Iran's hardline Islamist government has proven itself capable of such extremism.

"Unfortunately, we've seen enough already from the Iranian regime to suggest that it is very capable of this kind of action," Harper said.

"We've seen a number of things from the Iranian regime that are along these lines.

"And the fact that such a measure could even be contemplated is absolutely abhorrent."

The National Post newspaper reported Friday that Iran's parliament has passed a law that would require Jews to wear yellow labels, and Christians red ones, on their clothing.

The law must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide," Ali Khamenehi, to come into effect, the newspaper said.

Harper said he could not vouch for the accuracy of the report. But if true, he said it would be a throwback to one of the most odious chapters in human history.

"It boggles the mind that any regime on the face of the Earth would want to do anything that could remind people of Nazi Germany," he said.

The report is a reminder that Iran must never be allowed to gain nuclear weapons, Harper said.

He made the remarks during a news conference with Australian Prime Minister John Howard. Both leaders said they could not confirm the reports.

"I haven't previously heard of that," Howard said in response to a question about the report.

"If that is true I would find that totally repugnant. It obviously echoes the most horrible period of genocide in the world's history -- the marking of Jewish people with a mark on their clothing by the Nazis."

Nazi Germany began requiring Jews to wear yellow stars on their clothing in the buildup to the Holocaust. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has described the Holocaust as a myth and has called for the destruction of the state of Israel.

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Canada, Australia concerned by reports Iran to tag non-Muslims

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060519/wl_canada_afp/iranrightsreligion

The Canadian and Australian prime ministers expressed concern at unconfirmed reports that said Iran may force non-Muslims to wear colored badges in public so they can be identified.

The National Post newspaper reported Friday, citing human rights groups, that Iran's parliament passed a law this week that sets a public dress code and requires non-Muslims to wear a special insignia.

Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear a yellow, red or blue strip of cloth, respectively, on the front of their clothes, according to the newspaper.

"Anything of that kind would be totally repugnant to civilized countries, if it's the case, and something that would just further indicate to me the nature of this regime," Australia's Prime Minister John Howard told reporters during an official visit to Ottawa.

"It would be appalling," he added.

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he had "only seen reports" about the law but commented he would not be surprised by them.

"Unfortunately, we have seen enough already from the Iranian regime to suggest that it is very capable of this kind of action," he said.

"It think it boggles the mind that any regime on the face of the earth would want to do anything that could remind people of Nazi Germany," he added.

"The fact that such a measure could even be contemplated, I think, is absolutely abhorent."

Earlier, Harper's parliamentary secretary, Jason Kenney, told the House of Commons that Canadian officials were trying to verify the claims and said Ottawa is "deeply concerned".

"Should these reports turn out to be true, this government will condemn in the strongest terms possible this kind of revisiting of the darkest period of the last century. It is something that the entire civilized world should condemn," Kenney said.

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Posted by: jeffreyimm at May 19, 2006 2:26 PM

"Clash of epochs" is an appropriate term. I can not, however, use terms like "medieval," value-laden and prejudicial as it is, to describe these people. Rising to the level that "medieval" implies would be a vast improvement for those who ascribe to this primitive, atavistic mentality.

The sick thing about it is that the Islamists, like the Nazis, Bolsheviks, Maoists, Khmer Rouges (add whatever idolatous golden-calfish "ism" comes to mind)that preceded them, think they are doing right.

Remember, those who stuffed humans into the crematoria and ovens of Auschwitz, as well as those who shot and enslaved millions in Stalin's Russia, thought they were doing humanity a service. These ideologies had to be defeated on the battlefield or by economic strangulation.

As I watch this abyss open in front of us and begin to display the deep ugliness hidden within its bowels, I'm worried that the we may shortly not recognize our own world.

Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at May 19, 2006 2:34 PM

I told ya that every day that goes by the muslims are making islam hated in Europe like nothing has been hated since the Third Reich.

With these polls out, NOW do ya believe me.

So for all those out there saying Europe is through, done, stick a fork in it, snap out of it.

Sooner or later, and I'm inclined to believe much sooner than we expect, Europe is going to explode in fury at the policies of her elites, and impose draconian new laws on the movement of muslims into Europe.

Just watch and see.

Islam is creating its own resistance.

Posted by: Dan at May 19, 2006 2:41 PM

Until infidel populations repair their concepts and lexicon vis a vis Islam, the resistance scope of the resistance will be partial, the level of effort of the resistance will be half-assed, and the outcome of the resistance will at the outset be a partial failure, and ultimately a complete failure.

The latter (i.e., global Sharia) is IMHO attainable in as few as a hundred years from this year.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 19, 2006 2:49 PM

George will said this is a "clash of epochs".

Wafa Sultan said this is a "clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century".

I still think we need to give up the idea that the Islamic nations are just like us 1000 years ago. They are not following in our footsteps. There are important differences between the Judeo-Christian foundation of a society and the Islamic foundation of a society. It's not coincidence that we turned out as we did, and they turned out as they did.

In our belief structure, we learn and grow over time, correcting our mistakes as go along. Our values from the 16th century are very different from our values in the 21st century. And that is how it should be, within our belief structure.

Within their belief structure, there is no difference between the 16th century and the 21st century. There is only the immutable word of Allah as codified in the Qur'an. That won't change in the 22nd century, or the 42nd century. It tells them what to eat, how to go to the bathroom, how to bathe, pray, blow their nose in the morning, and dress themselves. Their madrasses teach one thing, memorizing the verses of the Qur'an. What need is there for science or medicine or skeptical inquiry?

Our fundamental mischaracterization of the situation is what leads us to our misguided paternal attempts to "modernize" and "uplift" the Afghanis and Iraqis (and possibly, soon the Iranians). They don't need or want our help (well, they want the money and food and weapons though, and if we're attacking their tribal enemies, they might see fit to assist us). We keep trying to save the "poor primitive child" in them.

Why can't anyone just admit they are different from us, their core beliefs mandate violence against us, they are a danger to us. Our societies are not mutually compatible. According to their holy book, they cannot be our "friends".

We don't need to help them, and we don't need to kill them. We just need to keep them from killing us.

Posted by: special_guest at May 19, 2006 2:53 PM

Foehammer

Totally agree with you, but you would have known that anyway.

Posted by: DP111 at May 19, 2006 3:13 PM

Why do I keep coming to the conclusion that mohammedans in general, and the Iranian regime in particular, are engaged in one giant attempted episode of "suicide by cop"?

Posted by: Eisenhund at May 19, 2006 3:13 PM

Dan says:

"I told ya that every day that goes by the muslims are making islam hated in Europe like nothing has been hated since the Third Reich."

I personally am glad that amahdinnerjacket is setting himself up as the spokesperson for the RoP.

The world needs to see him up on the rooftop, shrieking and foaming at the mouth. Combine this with the fact that the 2 or 3 moderate muslims in the world do not condemn him only makes people in the USA and Europe wake up and smell the coffee that the winds of war are blowing stronger.

This latest outrageous act only drives another nail in the coffin of Islam.

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at May 19, 2006 3:14 PM

My apologies for all the cliches in my last post.

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at May 19, 2006 3:16 PM

OT ---

World faiths call conversion basic religious right

Is this a gauntlet being thrown at the feet of all Islamic countries with national policies disagreeing with "the basic religious right of conversion"?

The meeting was sponsored on the Vatican side by the Pontifical Council for Inter-religious Dialogue and the thrust of the statement was in line with recent calls by the Vatican and other Christian bodies for better treatment for non-Muslims in Islamic countries.

Pope Benedict on Monday told a Vatican conference on immigration to and from Islamic states that Christian minorities in those countries should enjoy reciprocity -- or the same rights Muslims generally have in Western countries.

Vatican officials, leaders of other Christian and non- Christian faiths as well as atheists and humanists, say limits on non-Muslims in Islamic countries are far harsher than any restrictions imposed in the West that Muslims decry.

Saudi Arabia bans public expression of non-Muslim religions, and sometimes arrests Christians for worshipping privately, while Pakistan's Islamic laws deprive local Christians of basic rights although churches can function.

In Iran and some other Muslim countries, converts to other religions or to humanism -- like controversial Dutch Somali-born politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali -- are condemned as "apostates" and can be executed if they refuse to repent.

In Afghanistan, Islamic clerics in March condemned Western pressure for the release of man who had been jailed after converting to Christianity and said he should have been executed for abandoning Islam.

Posted by: yadayada at May 19, 2006 3:18 PM

Special, no, I don't concur entirely.

The only way we will get muslims to stop trying to kill us, and take over everything, is to kill so many of them, that they will never again indulge Arab/muslim supremacism.

I don't see how we can get beyond the problem of jihad and razzia, without inflicting upon them the brutal tutorial that we inflicted upon Japan and Germany.

Again, we are trying to extend towards islam/muslims a dispensation, an exemption, from the broad historical experiences of our past. And I doubt whether it will work.

I'm willing to give it a chance, thus my unabashed and unshaken support for the iraq gambit. And Amir Taheri has written a striking article detailing ALL THE SUCCESS, ALL THE GOOD news found in Iraq. And I hope that democracy takes, and slowly begins to alter islam within iraq, and then like a computer virus, spreads that alteration throughout the Arab world, then the wider islamic world.

I'm hopeful, and I'm willing to give that a chance, but that doesn't mean that the chance we are extending iraq, means that Europe needs to be entirely open to the demographic jihad.

Europeans are snapping out of it. At first, their opinions will be private, and only shared with those in their immeidate circles, those they trust. BUT INEXORABLY, those opinions are going to inform the public policy of European states, despite all the efforts of their suicidal elites, who are thoroughly post-modern, post-Christian and post-heroic.

There is good news out there, despite Jihad/Dhimmi Watch's determined refusal to report as much.

That intercepted letter in Iraq reported a week ago was good news.

Amir Taheri's article relates more good news.

These polling results ARE MORE GOOD NEWS.

Is it EVERYTHING we might like to see, of course not. BUT NONETHELESS, there is good news out there.

Posted by: Dan at May 19, 2006 3:19 PM

Why do I keep coming to the conclusion that mohammedans in general, and the Iranian regime in particular, are engaged in one giant attempted episode of "suicide by cop"?

Posted by: Eisenhund

Because they live in a 3rd world craphole, and want to die as martyrs so they can get their 72 virgin camels from allah(Phhhht).

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at May 19, 2006 3:19 PM

I think it might be wise too, to adopt the term Mohammedan to describe muslims.

I think Eisenhund does that.

I think we should all adopt that.

I'm going to stop using the term muslim.

By using the term Mohammedan, it places the problem in greater historical context, and directs attention towards the original war lord himself. Which is helpful.

Posted by: Dan at May 19, 2006 3:23 PM

The Germans have already outlawed -against Hollywood protests- the cult of scientology. What stops them from outlawing the cult of Mohammedansim?

So far the Germans didn't experience anything comparable to 9/11 on their soil, (no Beslan, no Madrid, London or Bali 1&2 either) but with a Hamas "minister" illegally entering Germany via Sweden and then having the hide to show up at Merkles office to demand, (yes demand, not beg) for the jiziya, which in his mind is overdue and must be paid in order to avert such attacks, this visit must have come as quite a shock to Merkle, who was "vexed".

Germans generally seem to have a better understanding of politics, history is still taught without the rose-colored goggles of PC, not everywhere, but many Germans do smell the coffee and do inform themselves. Lets say they are not as apolitical as ..................(fill in the name of your preferred apolitical PC-ridden, Islam-infested country)

Germans also don't have this huge divide between Libs and Dems like in the US. The former interior minister Otto Schily was a leftie, but nevertheless made informed and responsible decisions. Almost unthinkable in USA today.

However, I do not believe at this stage that the Germans will be the first nation in Europe to debate the violent and hateful verses in the Koran in parliament (which would most likely result in outlawing the cult) but it is not impossible. Perhaps after a major attack on Germany by Hamas (or any other Islamic terror org.) they will.

One country has to start with internment and deportation, or call it "repatriation." Once that happens, others will follow.

And screw the useless EU pencil-pushers!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at May 19, 2006 3:26 PM

Dan says

"I think it might be wise too, to adopt the term Mohammedan to describe muslims. "

I agree. BTW when did mOslems become mUslims? Growing up, they were always moslems. Just curious ... Hugh?

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at May 19, 2006 3:27 PM

Iran eyes badges for Jews
Law would require non-Muslim insignia

Chris Wattie
National Post

Friday, May 19, 2006

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=11fbf4a8-282a-4d18-954f-546709b1240f&k=32073

Jews were made to wear stars to identify them in Nazi Germany.

Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.

"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."

Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments."

The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.

Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth.

"There's no reason to believe they won't pass this," said Rabbi Hier. "It will certainly pass unless there's some sort of international outcry over this."

Bernie Farber, the chief executive of the Canadian Jewish Congress, said he was "stunned" by the measure. "We thought this had gone the way of the dodo bird, but clearly in Iran everything old and bad is new again," he said. "It's state-sponsored religious discrimination."

Ali Behroozian, an Iranian exile living in Toronto, said the law could come into force as early as next year.

It would make religious minorities immediately identifiable and allow Muslims to avoid contact with non-Muslims.

Mr. Behroozian said it will make life even more difficult for Iran's small pockets of Jewish, Christian and other religious minorities -- the country is overwhelmingly Shi'ite Muslim. "They have all been persecuted for a while, but these new dress rules are going to make things worse for them," he said.

The new law was drafted two years ago, but was stuck in the Iranian parliament until recently when it was revived at the behest of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

A spokesman for the Iranian Embassy in Ottawa refused to comment on the measures. "This is nothing to do with anything here," said a press secretary who identified himself as Mr. Gharmani.

"We are not here to answer such questions."

The Simon Wiesenthal Centre has written to Kofi Annan, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, protesting the Iranian law and calling on the international community to bring pressure on Iran to drop the measure.

"The world should not ignore this," said Rabbi Hier. "The world ignored Hitler for many years -- he was dismissed as a demagogue, they said he'd never come to power -- and we were all wrong."

Mr. Farber said Canada and other nations should take action to isolate Mr. Ahmadinejad in light of the new law, which he called "chilling," and his previous string of anti-Semitic statements.

"There are some very frightening parallels here," he said. "It's time to start considering how we're going to deal with this person."

Mr. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly described the Holocaust as a myth and earlier this year announced Iran would host a conference to re-examine the history of the Nazis' "Final Solution."

He has caused international outrage by publicly calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

Iran does not yet have nuclear weapons, but Tehran believed by Western nations to be developing its own nuclear military capability, in defiance of international protocols and peace treaties.

The United States, France and Israel accuse Iran of using a civilian nuclear program to secretly build a weapon. Iran denies this, saying its program is confined to generating electricity.

cwattie@nationalpost.com

Posted by: jeffreyimm at May 19, 2006 3:30 PM

It's very good news that the German people are waking up to the Mohammedist threat. Hopefully that will continue to spread across Europe.

Of course it's that evil Western media, not the countless atrocities the Mohammedists inflict on themselves and Infidels, that's responsible. Or at least that's what the apologists would say.

However, as the Mohammedists continue to inflict their horrors on the world, it's going to be harder and harder for their apologists to cover for them. Eventually, it will get so bad even the most clueless and in denial dhimmi will have no choice but to confront the truth.

Posted by: Proud Infidel at May 19, 2006 3:44 PM

realize that this comparison is by no means the best, but there is no way to know which is better, the Bible or the Quran, unless we taste the words. We do not have to swallow them, just taste and decide whether we want to swallow or reject. One day a great desire in my heart caused me to open the Bible and compare it with the Quran, I set them side by side and started to study. The study lasted many months, as God overwhelmed me with His truth.

I vowed not to stop until a found out if they are really equal when weighed side by side on the scientific scale. It was the only way... to take the Bible Challenge. I have documented all I learned from this experience, which I am forwarding to you. I urge you to take the Bible Challenge.

Note: Try to respond to the questions presented here, they all end with "?" in bold. These are questions directed to you. If you are able to answer them, then indeed you have faith based on facts. Please send the answers back to me. I will be waiting patiently for your response.

realize that this comparison is by no means the best, but there is no way to know which is better, the Bible or the Quran, unless we taste the words. We do not have to swallow them, just taste and decide whether we want to swallow or reject. One day a great desire in my heart caused me to open the Bible and compare it with the Quran, I set them side by side and started to study. The study lasted many months, as God overwhelmed me with His truth.

I vowed not to stop until a found out if they are really equal when weighed side by side on the scientific scale. It was the only way... to take the Bible Challenge. I have documented all I learned from this experience, which I am forwarding to you. I urge you to take the Bible Challenge.

Note: Try to respond to the questions presented here, they all end with "?" in bold. These are questions directed to you. If you are able to answer them, then indeed you have faith based on facts. Please send the answers back to me. I will be waiting patiently for your response.

realize that this comparison is by no means the best, but there is no way to know which is better, the Bible or the Quran, unless we taste the words. We do not have to swallow them, just taste and decide whether we want to swallow or reject. One day a great desire in my heart caused me to open the Bible and compare it with the Quran, I set them side by side and started to study. The study lasted many months, as God overwhelmed me with His truth.

I vowed not to stop until a found out if they are really equal when weighed side by side on the scientific scale. It was the only way... to take the Bible Challenge. I have documented all I learned from this experience, which I am forwarding to you. I urge you to take the Bible Challenge.

Note: Try to respond to the questions presented here, they all end with "?" in bold. These are questions directed to you. If you are able to answer them, then indeed you have faith based on facts. Please send the answers back to me. I will be waiting patiently for your response.
realize that this comparison is by no means the best, but there is no way to know which is better, the Bible or the Quran, unless we taste the words. We do not have to swallow them, just taste and decide whether we want to swallow or reject. One day a great desire in my heart caused me to open the Bible and compare it with the Quran, I set them side by side and started to study. The study lasted many months, as God overwhelmed me with His truth.

I vowed not to stop until a found out if they are really equal when weighed side by side on the scientific scale. It was the only way... to take the Bible Challenge. I have documented all I learned from this experience, which I am forwarding to you. I urge you to take the Bible Challenge.

Note: Try to respond to the questions presented here, they all end with "?" in bold. These are questions directed to you. If you are able to answer them, then indeed you have faith based on facts. Please send the answers back to me. I will be waiting patiently for your response.

WALID

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 3:48 PM

http://www.behindthebadge.net/apologetics/abrahamicfaith.html

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 3:50 PM

storagemanager...

???

Posted by: habnab at May 19, 2006 3:53 PM

And doesn't the Koran specify that christians and Jews must wear colours to identify them. This should be publicised as well.

Posted by: Voltaire at May 19, 2006 4:07 PM

storagemanager - sounds like you're stuttering - why the repeat posts?

Posted by: champ at May 19, 2006 4:09 PM

OT,but does anybody remember what Vasalam Ala Man Ataba’al hoda means?it was the last thing of the letter sent to bush.I am sending the letter to my friends,and want to tell them what that means.

Posted by: patriot4 at May 19, 2006 4:10 PM

Patriot4-- according to the New York Sun, it means "Peace only unto those who follow the true path."

http://www.nysun.com/article/32594

Posted by: Shinoliite at May 19, 2006 4:26 PM

thanks

Posted by: patriot4 at May 19, 2006 4:28 PM

Foehammer, you mentioned about science fiction writers writing about a future world where Islam dominated the culture. I think that idea was explored in Frank Herbet's "Dune" series some 35 years ago.

Posted by: payingattention at May 19, 2006 4:36 PM

The State Department said Friday it is concerned about reports that Iran's parliament is considering legislation to require non-Muslims in the country to wear badges.

Spokesman Sean McCormack said any such measure would be "despicable" and carry "clear echoes of Germany under Hitler."

US government statistics indicate that 98 percent of Iranians are Islamic. Other faiths are Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i.

McCormack said he could not comment further because the precise nature of the proposal is unclear.

"I don't have all the facts," he said.

NEWS FLASH:::AMERICA TO GIVE IRAN A TIME OUT!

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 4:44 PM

the link was the whole thing...my search for truth..one mans journey thru islam to the bible..great story..i love that.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 4:51 PM

Storage Manager:

I'm no biblical scholar, but:

The Mahdi comes in the midst of trouble and reigns for 7 years.

Isn't that the period of the Tribulation?

Makes one think, huh?

As for the Germans... my ancestors escaped Nazi Germany and fled for the USA. I have a trunk FULL of Nazi memorabilia from the 30's and 40's including badges, insignias, passports, photographs, etc. I keep it in my garage in a big blue box labeled "pandora's box".

Perhaps this is what Iran seeks to open.

Posted by: SexyKafira1 at May 19, 2006 4:56 PM

Beilin: Israel must act to evacuate Jews from Iran
By JPOST.COM STAFF

Responding to news from Iran, Meretz Chairman Yossi Beilin said, "Israel could no longer be satisfied with warnings, and that the moment Jews are forced to wear the yellow band, Israel must act to evacuate all Jews from Iran."

He added that, "Israel must stand at the forefront of efforts to separate Iran's crazy and Hitlerite regime from government control."

AMEN

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 4:57 PM

payingattention:

Ah, you know your sci-fi. Correct. The Fremen of DUNE were definitely molded to some degree around Islamic teachings and Arabic culture. However, it was by no means a true reflection of Islam: you could actually trust the word of a Fremen and they didn't treat their women like cattle. Oh, and the Fremen were the greatest fighters in Herbert's Universe -- we know that they couldn't possibly be Muslims, just from that alone.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 19, 2006 4:57 PM

Storemanager,

The Quran does not require non-Muslims to wear identifying marks. This was a requirement of the Pact of Umar and was required throughout much of Islam's history.

In the Land of Israel Jews were required at one time to wear large images of golden calfs around their necks, while Christians had to wear bells so Allah's minions would know from a distance a non-believer was approaching. The rules varied according to time and place.

Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at May 19, 2006 5:23 PM

: DesertDawgN29....sorry..i fail to understand the differance....they are still treated as slaves......islam is evil....thats all i need to know.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 5:26 PM

sexkafira1 wrote:I'm no biblical scholar, but:

The Mahdi comes in the midst of trouble and reigns for 7 years.

Isn't that the period of the Tribulation?

Makes one think, huh?

yes....it makes me think alot.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 5:28 PM

666 is comin up(06/06/06)We were allready served our declaration of war.

Posted by: patriot4 at May 19, 2006 5:35 PM

On the original story itself, I stand corrected in my past perceptions of Europeans as completely myopic in terms of the threat posed by Jihad (as suggested by support of Palestinians against Israel, opposition to Iraq being invaded in the first place, et al). At least as far as the Deutschers are concerned. As (and if) more such evidence trickles in from Britain, France, Sweden, Greece, Spain, et al, I'll be just as willing to stand corrected.

The positive side of this is that Mohammedan protestations about "the tiny minority of extremists" is not likely to do squat to alter that opinion.

P.S. Why are all the posts about Iranian infidels wearing Nazi-era reminiescent badges appearing here, when there is the separate thread on D/W dedicated to just that?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at May 19, 2006 5:38 PM

SexyKafira,

If you donate this memorabilia to your university, even including Brandeis, look over your shoulder:

1) The Nomenklatura discover the box containing your donation in the basement of the library.

2) Enraged, they pressure the Student Council to bring you up on charges for the felony hate crime of Islamophobia.

3) The Student Council accedes, and pays a visiting professor, a Goyische professor from Andover, to sit as judge.

4) The Star Chamber convenes with Alan Dershowitz serving as the lead prosecutor, and in a matter of hours you're convicted and sentenced to the Massachussetts State Women's Prison to pull 10 yrs.

5) The Nomenklatura then stage a ritualistic burning of your parent's memorabilia. They even burn the musty cardboard box.

6) Kumbaya around the bonfire, Moslem students ululate, Liberals (i.e., Marxists) chant slogans, all the Jews apologize, and the Skinheads hit on the foxy young Jewish chicks with considerable success.

Makes sense? Be careful.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 19, 2006 5:38 PM

9-11 was my wake up call.i started with books by robert.then the koran and the bible...now i read the bible for my soul...and the koran to know my enemy.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 5:38 PM

Dichter: He who forces Jews to wear ribbons will die

Internal Security Minister Avi Dichter said in response to the reports regarding Iran’s plan to obligate minority members wear colored badges that, “he who will force Jews, wherever they may be, to wear yellow badges will eventually find himself in a casket covered in black cloth.”

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 5:47 PM

I don't like to beat a dead horse but...
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/camps.html

Posted by: tgusa at May 19, 2006 5:48 PM

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19196947-1702,00.html

It's early Downunder, but I just saw this. Ihave no idea if it is accurate, or just a ploy.

This story is from our news.com.au network Source: AFP

Jewish MP denies Iran badge plan
From correspondents in Tehran
May 20, 2006
IRAN'S only Jewish MP strongly denied reports in a Canadian newspaper overnight that Iran may force non-Muslims to wear coloured badges in public so they can be identified.
"This report is a complete fabrication and is totally false," Maurice Motammed said in Tehran. "It is a lie, and the people who invented it wanted to make political gain" by doing so.

The National Post newspaper quoted human rights groups as saying that Iran's parliament passed a law this week setting a public dress code and requiring non-Muslims to wear special insignia.

Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear a yellow, red or blue strip of cloth, respectively, on the front of their clothes, it said.

Mr Motammed said he had been present in parliament when a bill to promote "an Iranian and Islamic style of dress for women" was voted. "In the law, there is no mention of religious minorities," he added.

MPs representing Iran's Jewish, Christian and Zoroastrian minorities sit on all parliamentary committees, particularly the cultural one, he said.

"This is an insult to the Iranian people and to religious minorities in Iran," he said.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard said overnight, during an official visit to Ottawa, that "anything of that kind would be totally repugnant to civilised countries, if it's the case, and something that would just further indicate to me the nature of this regime. It would be appalling."

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he had only seen reports about the law but that he would not be surprised by them.

"Unfortunately, we have seen enough already from the Iranian regime to suggest that it is very capable of this kind of action," he said.

"It think it boggles the mind that any regime on the face of the earth would want to do anything that could remind people of Nazi Germany," he added.

"The fact that such a measure could even be contemplated, I think, is absolutely abhorrent."

Harper's parliamentary secretary, Jason Kenney, told the House of Commons that Canadian officials were trying to verify the claims.

Posted by: Gramfan at May 19, 2006 5:56 PM

Dan (no, the other Dan) said

Special, no, I don't concur entirely.

Really? Actually I think I agree with you on almost all of what you've written, nice posts by the way. But what the hay, I can try to find something to disagree about.

The only way we will get muslims to stop trying to kill us, and take over everything, is to kill so many of them, that they will never again indulge Arab/muslim supremacism.

That is the WWII model, but as Hugh pointed out, there is also the Cold War model, the isolate-and-disengage model. Stop giving them financial assistance, stop trying to build them a brand new country in Iraq and Afghanistan. Stop allowing Mohammadans (like it?) into sensitive government positions. Stop allowing immigration. Remove religious protections for "religions" that advocate violence. Resisting the jihad is not all about blowing things up.

I don't see how we can get beyond the problem of jihad and razzia, without inflicting upon them the brutal tutorial that we inflicted upon Japan and Germany.

Actually, I agree with you on that, that the isolate-and-disengage model will eventually prove insufficient, and more direct action will be required. But there is no hurry, they will make it clear enough to everyone eventually.

I'm willing to give it a chance, thus my unabashed and unshaken support for the iraq gambit.

You stumped me there. I'm all for the (false) optimism of the flowering emergence of a "moderate" Islam too, just as I hope I will win the lottery. It could happen. But why do we have to be in Iraq for that to happen? If the "vast majority of moderates" are going to take back their Religion of Peace from the "few extremists", why can't they just do it themselves? Nobody held the hands of the American Revolutionaries when they decided to create a free society (well, France helped a little, but..). Why do we have to spend our money and lives, when the Iraqis and Afghans just chose to include Sharia in their constitution anyways? I'm all for "hope" for a new Islam, but not one penny to pay for it.

And Amir Taheri has written a striking article detailing ALL THE SUCCESS, ALL THE GOOD news found in Iraq.

Must be a short article.

I'm hopeful, and I'm willing to give that a chance, but that doesn't mean that the chance we are extending iraq, means that Europe needs to be entirely open to the demographic jihad.

Bingo. We've got it bass ackward. dms said it best: we are over in the middle east trying to replace sharia law with democracy while muslims are in the united states trying to replace democracy with sharia law. Instead of protecting ourselves from the dangers of jihad, we are leaving ourselves open (UAE ports deal, open borders, open immigration, Islam protected as a religion) while spending all our money and resources in Iraq. Why not let the Iraqis make their own democracy, while we protect our own democracy? Everybody happy happy.

Posted by: special_guest at May 19, 2006 6:04 PM

mamoood is waiting for his demon.i dont doubt anything iran says or does...

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 6:06 PM

patriot4 -

I'm a little confused by your last post...what does 666 have to do with 911 as you see it?

Posted by: champ at May 19, 2006 6:09 PM

Isn't it deliciously ironic that Hitler outdid himself to get rid of the Jewish population (a semitic race), and tried to "breed" the perfect Aryan race, and now his adopted country, Germany, is swamped with muslims, most of whom are also a semitic race?

Yet again, the hippocrisy is amazing!

Posted by: Gramfan at May 19, 2006 6:18 PM

666 is comin up(06/06/06)We were allready served our declaration of war.

Sorry if i made ya think it had anything to do with 9/11.wasnt trying to.

The Mahdi comes in the midst of trouble and reigns for 7 years.

Isn't that the period of the Tribulation?

Makes one think, huh?

yes....it makes me think alot.

i was just thinking about that too.We got the required letter from iran before a miltary operation,and 666(06/06/06)is comin up,it would make sense that the devil(iran,and the rest of the islamic world)would use that date to start that period.

Posted by: patriot4 at May 19, 2006 6:20 PM

A cheery Islamic montage just to show why the west may have some reservations about their Mohammedan guests.

Enjoy!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-521503032546496626&q=Islamic+bomb

Posted by: km at May 19, 2006 6:24 PM

Article from American daily, worth a read.

http://americandaily.com/article/13604

Posted by: km at May 19, 2006 6:31 PM

MR. LEWIS: I am inclined to believe in the sincerity of Ahmadinejad. I think that he really believes the apocalyptic language that he is using. Remember that Muslims, like Christians and Jews, have a sort of end-of-time scenario in which a Messianic figure will appear. In their case, in the case of the Shiites, the hidden imam who will emerge from hiding, who will fight against the powers of evil, the anti-Christ in Christianity, Gog and Magog in Judaism, and the Dajjal in Islam, a role in which we are being cast now. And he really seems to believe that the apocalyptic age has come, that this is the final struggle that will lead to the final victory and the establishment of the kingdom of heaven on earth.

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 6:34 PM

Oops - I thought you were talking about 911 - thanks for clearing up my confusion.

Posted by: champ at May 19, 2006 6:38 PM

think it is a dangerous situation. And my only hope is that they are not right in their interpretation of the Western world. I have often thought in recently years of World War II — you were told earlier that I’m ancient myself. The most vividly remembered year of my life was the year 1940. And more recently I have been thinking of 1938 rather than of 1940. We seem to be in the mode of Chamberlain and Munich rather than of Churchill.

SOMEONE HAS THE GUTS TO ADMIT IT...THE EVE OF WORLD WAR 4...GOD BLESS ISRAEL

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 6:39 PM

storagemanager -

Yes - you make a good point. All three major religions do share similar end-time scenarios. The only "key" difference between them is that Ahmad wants to get things underway himself; unlike Christians and Jews who aren't trying to pick a fight.

Posted by: champ at May 19, 2006 6:46 PM

I am not so sure about "666" as in the the Bible.
Recent interpretations suggest the Apocalypse referred to the end of the Roman Empire.

This number which is derived from a Hebrew numerical-alphabet system,,forgot the name of it,,, actually translates into "Nero". They went on to say the number was really "616", as it also came up in other documents, which translates into "Caligula".

The Romans back then had just established emperor worship and had put a statue of Caligula in the Jewish temple which of course was abbhorent to the locals.(Caligula being one of the most depraved persons ever to walk the planet).

I really think "Revelations" has contemporary references. It makes sense. Back then hardly anyone new about the rest of the world as a lot of it had not been discovered!

I am trying not to worry about June 6th!

Posted by: Gramfan at May 19, 2006 6:51 PM

champ wrote…
All three major religions…
That’s if you count people who kill for no other reason but for the satisfaction of their "GOD"?
Excuse me but I can only say W?T?F?

Posted by: tgusa at May 19, 2006 7:01 PM

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.

Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 7:10 PM

Alright storagemanager...
You want to hurl quotes...
Genesis 18:25
Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?"

Posted by: tgusa at May 19, 2006 7:15 PM

Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

Gen 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 7:26 PM

Exodus 19:24
24 The LORD replied, "Go down and bring Aaron up with you. But the priests and the people must not force their way through to come up to the LORD, or he will break out against them."

Joshua 7
1 But the Israelites acted unfaithfully in regard to the devoted things [a] ; Achan son of Carmi, the son of Zimri, [b] the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took some of them. So the LORD's anger burned against Israel.

Posted by: tgusa at May 19, 2006 7:33 PM

Thus saith the LORD, Where [is] the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors [is it] to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.

Isa 50:2 Wherefore, when I came, [was there] no man? when I called, [was there] none to answer? Is my hand shortened at all, that it cannot redeem? or have I no power to deliver? behold, at my rebuke I dry up the sea, I make the rivers a wilderness: their fish stinketh, because [there is] no water, and dieth for thirst.

Isa 50:3 I clothe the heavens with blackness, and I make sackcloth their covering.
god will save israel,but for his sake

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 7:38 PM

Why can't anyone just admit they (the mos)are different from us, their (the mos) core beliefs mandate violence against us, they (the mos) are a danger to us. Our societies are not mutually compatible. According to their (the mos) holy book, they (the mos) cannot be our "friends".
We don't need to help them, and we don't need to kill them. We just need to keep them from killing us.
Posted by: special_guest at May 19, 2006 02:53 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

And many wonder why God had the Jews to wipe out whole citi-states..

We just need to keep them from killing us.

We had better get busy on this one.

Posted by: Texican at May 19, 2006 7:40 PM

Genesis 32:28
Then the man said, "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have overcome."

What a way to spend Friday night...EH...?

Posted by: tgusa at May 19, 2006 7:44 PM

champ.....my point is...only the BIBLE is the word of GOD.sometimes one must speak only truth.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 7:45 PM

tgusa...lol

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 7:46 PM

Texican,
We know who they,them are...LOL

Posted by: tgusa at May 19, 2006 7:46 PM

guys...the anti-christ will have a book that mirrors GODS....with minor changes as to who gets the worship...get my point.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 7:49 PM

Yeah
They can also blow smoke up my A!s and tell me i'm on fire!

Posted by: tgusa at May 19, 2006 7:52 PM

i guess they could..dont why they would..but they could..lol

Posted by: storagemanager at May 19, 2006 7:56 PM

Let's not count on too many miracles from the God of the Bible.

Lately they have been in short supply.(Like 2000 years or even much more?)

"God helps those who help themselves" seems more realistic to me.

I have no idea what we can really do. I don't think our politicians have any idea either.

I think the "mo's" are smarter than I first thought,,especially on the subject of conquest.