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May 28, 2006

Ahmadinejad threatens Europe

1938 Alert from the Jerusalem Post, with thanks to LGF, where the first commenter aptly summed it up: "Let us nuke you, or we'll nuke you."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Europe that it should support his country's nuclear program or "suffer the consequences."

In an interview to be published in the German Der Spiegel on Sunday, Ahmadinejad also expressed his doubt regarding the Holocaust, saying that even if it had occurred, the Jewish state should have been established in Europe, not in Palestine.

"I only accept something as the truth if I am truly convinced of it," he asserted.

But don't worry. Despite this Holocaust denial (repeated yet again), he is still welcome among the Eurodhimmis in Germany:

The Iranian president, who previously stated his intention to travel to Germany for the World Cup games that will take place there this summer, said that he had not yet decided on the matter. Iran is one of the 32 nations participating in the world-wide sporting event.

"My decision depends on a lot of different things," Ahmadinejad said.

Posted by Robert at May 28, 2006 6:15 AM
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Ahmad-in-jihad-nut,

interested in ball-games?

Naaaah, don't think so....

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 6:24 AM

Well, as a lily-livered European/ Eurodhimmi, I support the right of Iran to develop a nuclear programme. It seems very odd that the US with its vast arsenal should be leading the push to stop this. How many international treaties has the US reneged on? Morally I don't see why they shouldn't they have nuclear power - or a bomb when they see that Israel has its own arsenal.

I don't like the Holocaust denial either, but if I was an Iranian I might read a lot into the fact that the West is more concerned about this than the ongoing situation in Palestine, where Israel conducts coninuing acts of terrorism against civilians with seeming impunity from international censure.

Terrorism is conducted by the West and its allies just as much as it's the product of isolated fanatics. It's just that Western-backed terror comes with much more powerful weapons. I don't blame Iran if they want a bomb - no-one's talking about attacking North Korea, are they?

Posted by: raffie [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 6:36 AM

As a lily-livered citizen of the Evil Empire (the USA) I DON'T want to see Iran get the bomb. All things and all motives are not equal. Raffie, do you really think that Amedinejad & Company would put their bombs away neatly back in their toy box once they blew up Israel? I don't think so....and I wouldn't want to stay in infidel Europe to find out.

Posted by: maryrose [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 6:59 AM

Good grief, another Islamic-supremacist troll hiding behind a movable facade. As if every pseudo-point made there had not been dealt with a hundred times here before. Waste of time.

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:05 AM

BTW, Robert, the German Interior Minister did deny that he had welcomed Ahmadinejad and claimed that remarks of his had been "taken out of context" by "the media". I had an email from his staff informing me of this when I complained abot his attitude.

I remain sceptical. How many times have we heard that excuse from various persons? However, I doubt Ahamdinejad will push it and risk finding out that he may not be welcome.

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:13 AM

It's just Naseem most likely. That is what is most frustrating about the islamic posters. They never say anything that is worth responding to. I really wish there was more of them on this site and they had good points, good enough to actually respond to.

Posted by: somethingaboutislam [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:16 AM

Whoops! My fingers - now I've been and gone and associated the guy with a forbidden meat there.

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:16 AM

Don't feed it, Maryrose. It'll just follow you home.

Posted by: Eisenhund [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:18 AM

So ah'm a mighty nut job is not interested in jizyah that Mr. Prez was offering him yesterday. And the suicide boys graduating ceremonies. And why do I have this feeling that he has to start and finish his own holocaust before he believes in it. And then he will not call it a holocaust, he will call it "end of tyranny".

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:18 AM

I find Naseem quite interesting. She's wildly inconsistent, too. As a member of an heretical sect within Islam she seems not to know whether to cheer the side on or to warn us about it. When she came across a recent story Robert had posted about the brutalization of a Christian woman in Pakistan she was genuinely affected by it - probably because she saw a possible fate for herself or those she knows in it. (Heck, the woman in question was even called Naseem - how close a reminder can you get?) OTOH, she can talk of people distant from her losing their whole way of life without batting a eyelash.

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:25 AM

The reason you don't let Islamic nations have nuclear arms is the same reason you don't give a monkey a hand grenade to play with. Sure they're cute at times, they're smelly, they're hairy, they can be both amusing and frustrating, their IQ's are about the same, and they wipe their feces on the walls, but you don't let them go around armed. When you arm them, bad things are bound to happen.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:52 AM

Thanks, Ahmadinejad, for the clarity of your threat.

Posted by: FreeSpeech [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:54 AM

Those Germans. Always on the wrong side of history. This will be the third world war that they will back the wrong dog. Will they ever learn.

No, of course not. They are German. They make over-priced luxury cars, junky sweet wine, and everyone wears black leather in the nightclubs, to look cool. And they made a god of David Hasselholf. There is no hope for people that do that.

Posted by: somethingaboutislam [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:59 AM

I think the root of German dislike for America lies in 1945 ? I am not sure. Somebody enlighten me.

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 8:00 AM

O.T. for the main thrust of the original posting, but on topic for Iran:

A leading Iranian pro-democracy and women's activist, who was jailed on trumped-up charges last year, has revealed how the clerical regime cynically deploys systemic sexual violence against female dissidents in the name of Islam.

Why am I not surprised - appalled, but not surprised?

Dissident tells of assaults

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 8:15 AM
I think the root of German dislike for America lies in 1945

I'd suspect that systematic and quite shameless media bias plays its part. (Sweden seems to be even worse in that respect.) But it doesn't seem to fool some - note the posts from Eisvogel here. I only hope there are a few more with his robust common sense over there. Judging by thi s poll the tide may be turning. After all, as an American once said, "You can't fool all of the people all of the time".

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 8:22 AM

Apparently, right at the beginning of World War One, it looked as though the Gemans were about to overwhelm the British and French in the West and had defeated two Russian armies in the East. One German, sitting at a cafe table was overheard saying: "I've always been opposed to war - but, I must say, world domination! - what an intoxicating prospect!"
The Germans made their bid (twice) and failed. They've always secretly begrudged the Americans their immmense power. One other thing the twentieth century left them with, was the deep conviction that military adventures are stupid.

Posted by: wallyUK [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 8:23 AM

Ahmadi-eviljad keeps on agitating as if the Arabs too had not collaborated in the Holocaust, as if Iran's shah at the time had not tried for a pro-Nazi alliance. Yes, the Arab nationalists did collaborate in the Holocaust, particularly through Haj Amin el-Husseini, British-appointed mufti of Jerusalem [who perceived similarities between Islam and "National Socialism"]. Arabs massacred Jews in various places, most notably in Baghdad, in sympathy with the Nazis [June 1941]. Now the poster named raffie knows that ahmadinajad has threatened to destroy Israel, which means mass murder of the Jews there, yet he argues that Iran has a right to nuclear weapons. So he too is taking the Nazi side, that of ahmadinajad. Of course, he also claims that Israel is mean to the Arabs who are now called "palestinians," and that gives Iran the right to destroy Israel, apparently. It seems that raffie doesn't know that atrocity stories were part of the stock in trade of the Nazis, and that the Nazis' brothers and sisters under the skin, the Communists, are past masters at atrocity-mongering. Then let's mention that the Palestinian Arabs are not a historical people, they are Arabs, and in fact the PLO covenant states that the "palestinian people" is part of the Arab nation, not a separate people or nation. Further, when the Arabs conquered Israel and other countries in the Middle Ages they set up an oppressive, exploitative social system, which specialized in humiliating non-Muslims [dhimmis, including Jews]. This was true in Israel as elsewhere. Raffie ought to know too that the info that he receives through the BBC, much of the rest of the Brtish press, and so-called "lefti-wing" organizations, often EU-funded, is made up of lies about Israel. It seems that some in the UK and EU use Arab grievances as a way of exculpating themselves in regard to the Holocaust.

Posted by: Eliyahu [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 8:37 AM

Isn't 'raffle' just another Muhammedan shill?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 8:50 AM

Isn't it going a going a bit far to say that people in the UK needs to exculpste themselves over the Holocaust?

Posted by: wallyUK [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 8:51 AM

It seems that many of our European cousins would rather blame the U.S. rather than say anything against any Islamic nation, no matter how threatening that Islamic nation is.

I live in England and woke up to the dangers of Islam as I watched planes flying into buildings on 9/11. Can i just say that many of us are not anti American even though in Europe we have to live with the left's propaganda. Many of us are afraid to speak out as we are labelled racist or Islamaphobic, although I try at every opportunity. Please America, Australia and all those other countries in the free world keep this in mind because one day we will need each other!

Posted by: Dilly [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 8:53 AM

no-one's talking about attacking North Korea, are they? this said by raffie. well raffie North Korea is next to China, and it only does what China tells it to do. that is why the Us is getting N.Korea isolated by other countrie, including trying to drag the Chinese into doing more. but china is very patient with the West, and will come to blows when they are ready, much like the Nazis in the 30's. Furthermore know one with a right mind would eqate Iran to anything less than monsterous in their dealings with its own people let alone minorities and women.. Raffie gets a head check, you are come to the West and say what you want, try that in Iran, any Middle Eastern country, try that in China. no one wants to conquer Iran, its a cesspool!

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 9:08 AM

Wally, the people of the UK during the Second World War did not take part in the Holocaust, but the government of the time refused to take practical measures to stop it, such as bombing Auschwitz. Nor did the BBC [subject to Foreign Office direction] give it much attention except on rare occasions. In the Baghdad massacre of Jews in 1941, British troops remained outside the city for two days while the massacre went on. There were British officers, such as Somerset de Chair, who wanted to stop it, but they had orders from the Foreign Office, according to De Chair, not to intervene. Elie Kedourie published that 600 Jews were massacred, although there are other numbers. Certainly, some people who were prominent in government at that time may feel that Israel's very existence is a reproach. On the Continent of course the sense of guilt may be stronger, as may also be the desire to cancel that feeling by throwing guilt on Israel. In any case, the kind of false reporting of what goes on here justifies the atrocities perpetrated by the PLO, Hamas, and other terrorist groups. May I remind you of the unproven killing of an Arab boy named Muhammad al-Dura near the beginning of the present war? This fake atrocity was of course an invention France Deux, not of the BBC. In any case, it was used to incite Arabs to commit mass murder and to win favor for the PLO cause in Europe.

Posted by: Eliyahu [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 9:10 AM

There's no reason to assume Raffie is a Muslim. S/he sounds like a typical Brit. Most people here think like that. Most people in my FAMILY think like that. I've been known to silence an entire pub full of people just by saying, 'I'm a Zionist, actually.'

WSW

Posted by: Wild Slutty Womens [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 10:17 AM

According to Martin Gilbert:

That July, Jewish leaders brought Churchill an horrific account of Auschwitz. It had been smuggled out by two escapees, and revealed for the first time the nature of the gas chambers there. Asked to bomb the railway lines to Auschwitz, Churchill instructed Eden: 'Get anything out of the Air Force you can, and invoke me if necessary.' A few days later, when it was learned that the deportations from Hungary had stopped, the Jewish request changed from bombing to protective documents. This too Churchill supported.

So it would seem that Churchill was perfectly prepared to do what you say he wasn't. I can't claim to have seen any original documents, but I can think of few more respected secondary sources than Martin Gilbert.

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 10:52 AM

This is Al-Reuters headline for the same "Der Spiegel"-article:
"Iran's Ahmadinejad says wants Europe on his side".

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L27221518.htm

Posted by: sugiero [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 11:50 AM

Those Germans. Always on the wrong side of history. This will be the third world war that they will back the wrong dog. Will they ever learn.

Somethingaboutislam,

Not all Germans agree with this attitude. In a recent poll, the majority of Germans blamed Islam as the source of Islamic violence. Being German, I'm disgusted in hearing about blogs where they support the Iranian president. Though I may dislike Bush, I hate Ahmadinejad even more so.

americaningermany,

If you'd care to give me the address where they support this nutcase, I'll take a look.

Hanover


Posted by: Hanover Fisk [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 12:19 PM

If Europe allows iran to have nukes, then Europe can bow down to this tyrant as they did to Hitler.

Either you stand up and defend your nation or bow down and give homage and your children and women to this tyrant.

The choice is yours. Destroy iran's capabilities of wagingg war or see Europe in flames... Choose............

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 1:24 PM

States under the control of intolerant, tyrannical religious leaders should not be allowed to handle WMD if it is at all possible to prevent.

The sloppy security measures in the Netherlands allowed A.Q. Khan to steal enough info to help Pakistan cobble together their "Islamic Bomb", otherwise there would be no such threat from that quarter, since "science" within Islam is generally bent toward determining the exact moment of moonrise over Mecca, and not serving humanity here and now with anything useful.

The overly-religious believe more in the next world than this one, so their fingers on the triggers of annihilating weaponry are looser than desirable.

If North Korea, to use raffle's example, were to use their nuclear arsenal against the South, the North would become a thousand year glassy parking lot for Chinese tourists.

The unstable are not permitted to play with Armageddon.

Mahmoud and the mad mullahs show by example (hanging young Iranian girls who mock their regime from construction cranes until dead) that they and their cult of the Hidden 12th Imam/Madhi are irrational, and, by any normal human standards, hopelessly demented.

Letting them get their mitts on nukes is about as wise as allowing Jeffrey Daumer to open a butcher shop.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 1:26 PM

"Please America, Australia and all those other countries in the free world keep this in mind because one day we will need each other!"

Don't worry, we will always be there because we know the danger to freedom if we are not. Pardon us for being tired if not outright resentful of the hatred in Western Europe towards us. When push comes to shove we will all stand together, but there are still quite a few on both sides of the pond that need to pull their heads out of their a**es. That is going to make one hell of a popping sound and I wish they would stop clenching. You can see their faces turning red somtimes they are trying so hard to keep their heads from falling out.

Posted by: Sheik er' Bouti [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 1:29 PM

Enough of this disdain or outright hate of Germany! Enough is enough! Good God, when will you guys start to grasp that a minority of idiots does not speak for the majority. Crap, if the world were to judge the USA based on alot of the liberal media junk that comes out of the states, they would be justified to say exactly the same things about us.

Newsflash: There are also americans who support Aheminijhad (for reasons I will never be able to figure out).

Newsflash: There are a helluva lot more neo-nazi's, both numerically and in terms of %, in the USA and not in Germany. Germany has laws on the books to deal with the problem. The USA does not.

Newsflash: DER SPIEGEL is an extreme left leaning magazine. Why in the hell do you want to judge an entire nation based on one magazine!?! This is just plain old stupid.

Yes, there are Germans who are no great fans of Bush. But when I think about it, at least 48.5% of americans in the last extremely hotly contested election were also not great fans of Bush. It is one thing to disagree with him or his politics and it is another thing to be an america-hater, and another thing altogether to be an Aheminijhad lover. Who among us is qualified to make the distiction?

I am an american who has been living in Germany now for 9 years. I get to see the entire spectrum here, which most of you do not get to see. I have about 400 dear friends here, probably about 2,000 aquaintances, and not a single one of them, I repeat, not a single one of them, fits your descriptions of Bush-haters or Aheminijhad lovers.

Which was the first nation to offer immediate aid to the USA, within hours of 9-11? Answer: Germany

From which nation did marines stand at attention and raise the american flag on their ships as a sign of solidarity? Answer: the germans, in Hamburg's harbor.

Who is doing most of the grunt work for us in Afghanistan? Answer: Germany

Which countries have provisons in their constitutions which do not allow them to engage in offensive warfare? Answer: Germany and Japan (for obvious reasons). Therefore, germans and japanese are not inclined to jump willingly onto the war bandwagen. They have become pacifists because WE trained them to be pacifists!

Which country was not willing to send troops into Golf War I, but paid 30 BILLION of the bill, which was a huge percent of the total? Answer: Germany

Which country was the very first to fly in aid for Katrina via Florida? Answer: Germany

And the list goes on and on and on.

Did the Germans want to go into Iraq for Golf War II? No. Does this make them our enemy? No.

The germans are facing a potential nightmare for the upcoming WM in Soccer. They are under massive stress - just one terror attack, just one ugly demo, and their image is hurt very badly. And the ugly islamic world knows this. The constitution in Germany prohibits the army from handling internal situations (a provison we forced upon the germans, btw, for obvious historical reasons- a restriction that we americans do not have), so only the local police forces are going to be strained to the max. The WM is SUPPOSED to be non-political, but as with all major events today, you can't keep the politics out of it. The local poll in Bonn shows that the vast majority of germans (at least from here) do NOT want Aheminidjhad to come. Should he come and start to deny the holocaust, then he will be in violation of §130 of german civil code and can be arrested.

So, the poll from SPIEGEL doesn't mean diddleysquat to me. SPIEGEL has also lied in the past, I have no reason to trust the magazine now.

Facit: We have many more allies here than you all think, but a number of writers to this website should get their acts together before writing such vile crap about a country that has taken hit after hit after hit in the last years. You are venting your anger on the wrong people, folks!

And btw, I am also a jew. So, if anyone would have reason to want to jab at the germans, it would be me. But I do not, because I have learned how diverse and hard-working and responsible they are.
And how hard they have worked to amend for their past and bring a new generation of modern, open, democratic and capitalist-based germans onto the scene.

Yes, many europeans have their heads in the sand. Are all of us americans clear headed?

Greetings from Bonn.

Posted by: bonncaruso [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 2:11 PM

I'm German. I dislike Germany. Does that make my argument valid?

Posted by: Sheik er' Bouti [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 2:18 PM

Bonncaruso -- to the extent that you express solidarity -- BRAVO! To the extent that you have vented at Americans for venting at Europeans for venting at Americans... well -- that could go on forever, couldn't it? But I know how you feel because I've listened and read the swill from Europe and Canada about America for so long. Suffice it to say our nerves are ALL being rattled by the Muslim menace, as is becoming amply clear to increasing numbers of people.

I think this will simply make the eventual retaliation against Islam all the more effective once it commences. It will be sad in retrospect that people so breezily denounce out of hand notions such as mass deportation of Muslims in Dar al Harb, or the banning of the Koran and closing of Mosques wholesale. Simply put -- they must abandon the major tenets of their filth stained Supremacist religion or get the hell out of our sovereign domain. But in the meantime -- we also must hash out and exfoliate all those Western mechanisms and lunatic boondoggles which permitted Muslims in their 10s of millions behind our lines...

To the extent that this will continue to jangle nerves on both sides of the Atlantic -- I say: It's inevitable. So may I borrow from a famous Bette Davis line: "Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy night!"

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 3:09 PM

"if the blood bath must come,lets get on with it"

Posted by: patriot4 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 3:14 PM

And I have taken great notice of the upcoming World Cup in Germany. On some of the Muslim threads their are widespread hints that something may be afoot. Muslims are warning each other not to fall for certain 'provocations' which keep cryptically being referred to... Don't really know what they're alluding to, but clearly they're talking about SOMETHING. Can anyone out there shed some light on this? Now, of course, I'm semi-glad to see what appears like a tamping down of emotions by Muslim posters regarding the upcoming event -- but with the event only two weeks away -- and the Muslim stabbings and attacks have already begun -- I'm left wondering if there's a lot more to this story than it appears... Are they really attempting to stop something -- or are they preparing the ground in their nefarious way to lash out and then claim victimhood when they are lashed back at? It's all so confusing... But I don't trust Muslims at all. My gut tells me they're up to something -- maybe something big...

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 3:15 PM

Maybe World Cup was the wrong name -- I don't really follow the sport at all -- so that may not have been the event -- but you know what I'm talking about, I hope...

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 3:16 PM

please read "There are" for their... pre-coffee errer...

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 3:17 PM

Muslims are warning each other not to fall for certain 'provocations'

Well...

Hot dogs.

Bare Midriffs.

Kafirs filling the stands.

Beer!

What else...

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 3:57 PM

Sheik er' Bouti:

If you don't like Germany, then move out. No one is forcing you to stay there. Please feel free to do your business in somebody else's garden.

Jsla:

not venting on americans. I myself am one. And it's not really about solidarity. I am fully aware of european arrogance and disdain - but not willing to lump all Germans into one boat just because some do the smug-snug-act. It is indeed a kick in the knee to be expected to play policeman for the world and then get the riot act read to me by europeans. But Germany is the economic heart of Europe. It is the transportation hub of Europe. If there is a place to begin the dismantling of the welfare state and the shoring up of an ally, then in Germany. The english were no more for the war in Iraq than the germans, only Blair took his stand for it and Schröder against it. But from the sheer poll numbers among both populations, the poll values were practically identical...

I do agree with you, however, about internet chatter: the islamic threads all over europe are just buzzing about the WM. So, let's look at the numbers:

9-11 (based on our emergency tel. no.)
3-11 (Spain)
7-7 (Great Britain)

and looky, looky, what do we have shortly before the WM:

6-6, and not just that: we have 06-06-06, or 06-06-2006, or just plain old 6-6-6. Hmmmmmmm....
for those whacked out Jihadis looking for a date to burn in effigy, I think we have a good candidate in, say, 9 days.

The date 11-06-06 (June 11th) also looks pretty poetic and symmetric. That is the day on which Iran plays against Mexico in the city of Nuernberg. OY!

The ride may suddenly get much bumpier...

Greetings from Bonn.

Posted by: bonncaruso [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 5:09 PM

Right on, Bonncaruso -- I really wasn't taking any kind of swipe at you. My family history is also largely German - if you go back 200 years... There still is some affinity for the place and the pepes... Some... Thanks for your thoughts on 06-06-06 -- GEEZ -- that's a huge one -- never would have crossed my lugubrious Yankee mind... Those muslims sure have a dark streak, don't they? I'm starting to not be a fan....

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 5:32 PM
TWENTY “major conspiracies” by Islamist terrorists in Britain have been uncovered by the security services, John Reid, the home secretary, has disclosed.

Reid said that the existence of so many plots means that the police and MI5 are fully stretched and cannot divert their precious counter-terrorism resources to a lengthy public inquiry into last year’s London suicide bombings.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-2200246,00.html

This is just a tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 6:00 PM

Wild Slutty Womens i'm a Brit living in the north west and im sorry to here that where you live everybody is so dhimmi because it's not the case here.

People here are getting sick of it. Please don't make the assumption that every town as the same opinion as yours until you've been to every town and asked the peole there in person.

Conflict is a terrible thing but the idea that everyone of us is going to role over and become second class citizens in our own country is laughable.

As for the idea that MI5 is too busy to have a public enqiury sounds more like labour spin and bullsh*t than a real reason. Makes me wonder what they don't want us to know.

I can't tell you how many holes there are in Blackburn, Lancashire. But i can tell you from an ex counciller that he believes there are around 5000 Mosques. It seems you can register your house as a place of worship and avoid paying the dreaded council tax that blights all our lives. All you need is a number of people who will testify that they pray in your house once a week. Not hard to do in a tight knit Muslim community.

Guess what? I mailed Blackburn and Darwin Council and asked them to give me a link to figures for Muslim, Jewish and Christian places of worship claiming tax exemption and got no reply.

The ex counciller said that those figures were being kept quiet because the white population would be up in arms. I guess he was right.

Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 28, 2006 7:16 PM

jsla:


Yes, numerology appears to play a role in the psychological warfare being waged by the Jihadis.
Apparently, such dates stick in our minds longer.
I have not forgotten 9-11 or 3-11 or 7-7, not to mention the hundreds of other attacks that we did not pay so much attention before 9-11.

As Ohlmert stood before the US congress last week and gave the statistic of 20,000 planned and foiled attacks on Israel since the beginning of Intifada II, my jaw hit the floor. We must consider what an unbelievably good job the IDF is doing in Israel. This means that the attacks that did unfortunately happen are just a drop in the bucket compared to what could have happened. Makes me shiver.

Mert:

I think you have an excellent point. It is easy to generalize a whole population (which is why I was upset about the german bashing that is going on), but all politics is local, as we all know, and I am sure the discontent and dismay over the advancement of Jihadism can be felt in every city.

americaningermany:

of course, everything is allowed. This is the free speech that we live and die for. However, bashing our allies, I personally find to not be helpful. We are going to need the germans in the coming years. Instead of sticking them in the mud, we can be helping them to help themselves out of the mud. That was the jist of my point.

It is my firmest of belief that by their deeds we shall know them. People of good will shows themselves by their deeds. people with whom there can be no negotiating show themselves also by their deeds. My advise is to watch, wait, trade information, but not bash. And follow the money trail. This advise was given to me by a dear friend, a christian pastor who I consider to be very wise and experienced.

Greetings from Bonn.

Posted by: bonncaruso [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 29, 2006 5:05 AM

Someone said, "If you don't like Germany, then move out. No one is forcing you to stay there. Please feel free to do your business in somebody else's garden."

More flawed logic in response to flawed logic in response to flawed logic. Brilliant!

Posted by: Sheik er' Bouti [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 29, 2006 2:06 PM

http://www.bongonews.com/layout4.php?event=2477

Analysts Say That the Iranian Leader Has a Really Tiny Penis


TEHRAN — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s lunatic fascination with phallic objects such as ballistic missiles and nuclear technology can likely be attributed to his profound lack of physical manhood, according to several international affairs experts.

“It’s a classic case of deep-seated psychological displacement and compensation,” said Henry Weintraub, executive director of the Institute of Global Perspectives in Gstaad. Weintraub speculated that Ahmadinejad “must be smooth like a Ken doll down there,” and called for rigorous U.N. inspections with unfettered access to Ahmadinejad’s pants.

“I’m guessing he’s hung like a caterpillar,” said Arleen O’Brien, chairman of the Department of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Nome. “The typical American male, when faced with such a situation, has a number of options, including getting promoted to vice president of marketing or buying a Corvette. But what’s Ahmadinejad going to do? Buy a three-humped camel?”

Several authorities on the politics of the Persian Gulf region suggested that Ahmadinejad’s feelings of inadequacy may be the cause of his aberrant and puzzling behavior. Elliott Nolan of the Centre for World Affairs, a London-based think-tank, noted that although Ahmadinejad has never been involved in Scouting, for example, he is a longtime subscriber to Boy’s Life Magazine. A source at the magazine said Ahmadinejad often requests additional copies each month “because the pages somehow keep getting stuck together.”

Darrin Pack

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