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Here is a vivid illustration of the correctness of today's Daily Hugh. From AP, with thanks to Mackie:
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - To Iran's west lies a natural ally and perhaps its most potent weapon in the international fray over its nuclear program. While Iran and Iraq were arch enemies during the rule of Saddam Hussein, all signs point to an increasingly robust relationship now that Shiites have achieved a dominant role in the Iraqi leadership.It's a bond that has yet to reach its potential - in large part because the U.S.-led invasion is responsible for Iraqi Shiites being at the top of the political heap for the first time in modern history. Iraqi Shiites are not looking the gift horse in the mouth.
But Iran and Iraq share a Shiite Muslim majority and deep cultural and historic ties, and Tehran's influence over its neighbor is growing. Iran will likely try to use Iraq as a battleground if the United States punishes Tehran economically or militarily, analysts say.
Many key positions in the Iraqi government now are occupied by men who took refuge in Iran to avoid oppression by the Saddam's former Sunni Muslim-dominated Baathist regime.
Iraq's powerful militias, meanwhile, have strong ties to Iran and have deeply infiltrated Iraqi security forces. They can be expected to side with Iran if the West should attack, said Paul Ingram of the British American Security Information Council.
"Iran has ties with Iraq which have not been mobilized as they could have been," Ingram said. "The militias based in Iraq received much of their training from Iran and they have not taken any instructions yet."
The Mahdi Army, loyal to firebrand anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, and the Badr Brigade, the military wing of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, both have significant links to Iran....
If Iran is attacked, "Iraqi Shiites will not take this lightly. They will not sit and watch," said Diaa Rashwan, a Cairo-based analyst...."The Shiite political class in Iraq believes that if they generally cooperate with the U.S. and Britain, eventually they will withdraw and leave the Shiites in power," asked Juan Cole, a Middle East political analyst at the University of Michigan. "So far things have worked out wonderfully. Why rock the boat?"
For once, Juan Cole is right.
Posted by Robert at May 29, 2006 9:56 AM
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In a meeting with members of the headquarters in charge of commemorating anniversary of Imam Khomeini's departure, President Ahmadinejad said that sincerity in action is one of the lessons of late Imam Khomeini to his followers, adding that Imam Khomeini believed that any action for the sake of God would not fail.
He said the thoughts of Imam Khomeini brought victory to Islam and hoped that the same process will continue victoriously in the future.
"In the period when the Iranian people were subject to disappointment due to the oppression of the (former) tyrannical regime, Imam Khomeini encouraged people to follow the path of great Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)," President Ahmadinejad said in reference to leadership of the Islamic Revolution which culminated in 1979.
YES....YES...Men and women who fled Iran in 79 with little or no money remember Demon Khomeini..Homes who lost loved ones Remember demon Khomeini.....American hotages and their families Remember Demon Khomeini....Hard guy to Forget!
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at May 29, 2006 10:18 AM
What I'm wondering is what those people in Iraq who are friendly with Iran would do if civil war broke out in Iran? Would they rush in to help their friends or what?
Posted by: fireangel at May 29, 2006 10:46 AM
I thing what we all need to remember is that 'all' of Islam will always be at odds with the non-Islam world. I base this on Mr. Spencer's book "P.I.G. To Islam and the Crusades" which I am presently reading.
Yes, one would hope that this religion would mature just as Christianity did. My lack of knowledge about Hinduism and Buddaism but I'll bet they had a similar intollerant period. But when Islam's main text, the Qua'ran, advocates the slaughter of the infidels I am afraid that the rest of the world will be forced to TOTALLY destroy the Islamic religion.
For the present Our only solution maybe to finish turning Iraq over to the now free Iraq people, hope they saw the light of democracy, freedom and equal rights to all. Pull out our forces some time in the next 24 months and prepare to remove the Iranian Islamic leaders by all means necessary. After we deal with Iran's Islamic leaders and the rest of the Islamic world does not get the message then we will have to treat them to the same. Hopefully we have the back bone to do what is right or our Mothers, Sisters and Daughters will all be wearing the Talliban Burkas shortly.
at May 29, 2006 10:57 AM
Congratulation - here comes the Islamic super state courtesy of Bush and Blair - a couple of idiots !
Posted by: johnmac at May 29, 2006 11:09 AM
I try to see a silver lining in the looming Iran-Iraq alliance. Perhaps in the short term that nightmare combination will happen, but doesn't that more evenly balance the entire Muslim Mideast between Sunni and Shiite, thereby increasing the chance of an truly massive Muslim civil war?
Posted by: jewdog at May 29, 2006 11:25 AM
That country is simply not worth all those lives which are being lost, Mainly US and UK, a daily, if not hourly occurrence. The country is not worth it, the first chance they get they will vote in an Iraqi version of Ahmadinejad and start making the bomb.
Posted by: IceDragon at May 29, 2006 12:36 PM
There are no countries within the Islamic Ummah, only the schism between Sunnis and Shi'ites.
The clash between the Caliphate and the Imamate.
Maps are infidel illusions.
Read the Koran, Abu Bush!
Scan the Hadiths, Ibn Blair!
It's the jihad, stupid(s)!
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 29, 2006 12:54 PM
Greetings,
It pleases me to see these two brother nations side by side, and working together. All Islamic nations must unite in the face of foreign agression, so that they may repel the forces which are trying to separate them.
We are not war mongerers. We are not in the business of starting wars, or killing thousands of civilians. But when attacked, we will defend our nation and people and we will unite.
As the late Imam Khomeini (ra) once said;
‘Under the leadership of the prophet of Islam we want to carry out these two objectives: Neither be an oppressor nor be oppressed.’
PS. I made an account on this site yesterday, and after one post under the nick RevolutionaryGuard, all my subsequent posts are being 'moderated'. I was neither offensive nor rude in that comment, and I believe that this site is not tolerant of opposing views. It clearly shows us the 'freedom of speech' you lot ascribe to.
Posted by: GuardianofFaith at May 29, 2006 1:00 PM
After that Manhattan Project is destroyed, what are they going to do?
More street theater?
Are they going to swell the ranks of the fanatics?
In what manner are they going to express their displeasure at us?
I'm sick to death of all their empty, yellow talk.
I say we call their bluff, and unleash upon them.
Let's cut the crap, and let's deliver a tutorial that they ancestors will recall with dread and fear a hundred years hence.
I've had it with all this defeatist, despair crap too.
Posted by: Dan at May 29, 2006 1:22 PM
Guardian of ruth-
Ayatollah Khomeini was a despotic maniac.
Quote at your risk the mutterings of madmen.
He legalized pedophilia in Iran to mimick the "holy" rape of 9 year old Aiyesha, Mohammed's pre-pubescent sex slave.
Good company you keep.
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 29, 2006 1:28 PM
My humble opinion;
First and foremost - the mind set of the Muslims right now is the “Great Satans” - the infidels of the EU, UK, and the Us. These are the enemies of Islam that have to be dealt with first. All factions and tribes will work together to defeat them. When they have done that, then they will go back to fighting within themselves.
Now, I believe Ahmadinejad is working to install more hatred in all Muslims in all of the Middle East, AND throughout all the other countries of the world. He will continue to arrogantly defy anyone who tries to stop him from getting his nukes. If and when anyone attacks Iran, he will call upon all Muslims throughout the world to rise up and defend the “poor peaceful Muslims.”
If this happens, we will see how many "moderate" Muslims we have in our midst.
at May 29, 2006 1:30 PM
And today they're rampaging in Kabul against America. So much for hearts and minds...
Posted by: jsla at May 29, 2006 2:21 PM
rightofattila said
prepare to remove the Iranian Islamic leaders by all means necessary. After we deal with Iran's Islamic leaders and the rest of the Islamic world does not get the message then we will have to treat them to the same.
Deal with Iran? Maybe, but hopefully for the right reason. Supporting or financing terrorist attacks against the U.S. - Yes. Removing the possibility of nuclear weapons - Yes. Replacing their Islamic theocracy with democracy - No.
Let Iraq and Iran have whatever tea parties they want with each other. If they support terrorists who attack us, then crush them militarily, and no rebuilding this time, please.
Overthrowing every Islamic nation in the world? What's that about? To replace them with freedom-loving democracies? Don Quixote, phone your office please.
Posted by: special_guest at May 29, 2006 2:24 PM
Muqtada al-Sadr should have been arrested for the murder of a pro-American cleric and his army should have been crushed. The Marines openly stated that he would be arrested and his army taken down. Washington had other ideals.
That will turn out to be a fatal mistake and ensure that Iraq will fall into the Iranian fold. All because Washington was too weak to take out this Shitte war lord. And also unprepared to secure the boarders of Iraq from outside infiltration by jihadist.
Those two weaknesses amount to a deliberate design for failure. This planned debackel of Iraq will be the poster boy for not occuppying Iran, Syria, Sudia Arabia, Pakistan or other hot beds of Islamic terrorism.
The incompetence of the Bush administration will give rise to a wide eyed mythology of " oh there is no way to tame the lands of Islam " similar to the post Vietnam War culture in dealing with Banana Republic " Communism ".
The Democrates in the future will fall in line with this mythology generated by the Bush administration as in " been there, done that in Iraq and it did not work. " Also as has been noted on this fourm, the Afghanistan Constitution buried any notion of a secular state and that undertaking too will be caulked up to the mythology of an uncounqerable Islamic culture.
In summation, we failed to crush the anti-Western religious fanatics in Iraq and Afhganistan because we made NO ATTEMPT to. To the contrary we have allowed the institutionlisation of religious fanatics in both countries when in fact we had the power to crush them all. But Washington chose not to do so.
----Nossy
Posted by: Nostrodamus at May 29, 2006 2:40 PM
Iraq and Iran will join to reform Babylon. They're going to be bigger oil producers than the Saudis.
Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at May 29, 2006 2:55 PM
GuardianofFaith: Islam has always been an expansionist, bellicose religon. Recall Genghis Khan, and much more recently, the Ottoman empire who brought so much suffering to the people of Eastern Europe. And Islamic imperialism, as opposed to, say, Roman or British has lacked any redeeming
qualities. The Romans and the British have spread civilization; Muslims, only misery and primitivism.
at May 29, 2006 3:10 PM
"Iraq and Iran will join to reform Babylon. They're going to be bigger oil producers than the Saudis."
Not suggesting that this was part of a master plan -- but the Sunnis think so... It's one reason I supported the war in Iraq. If managed properly, it can be seen as a great destruction of a prop for Arab nazism and and cork in the bottle of civil war.
The hardest part : fashioning the propaganda so that we aren't smeared with the blame for Islam's greatest civil war.
We can win whether Iraq succeeds wildly or fails wildly. It will take a mastery completely lacking in GWB however to pull it off.
Posted by: jsla at May 29, 2006 3:10 PM
(Where's Tallyrand when you need him?)
Posted by: jsla at May 29, 2006 3:11 PM
(BTW -- the first nice thing I've said about a French man in over a decade...)
Posted by: jsla at May 29, 2006 3:12 PM
GuardianofFaith, freedom of speech goes both ways, you are free to say what you want, and we are free to answer what we want. you see under islamic law you cannot go on the corner street and yell out allah sucks... or say muhammud was a child rapist. you muslims have to accept freedom of speech to say and defend what you want, and l have the right to say you are wrong because of what numbers of reasons. that is dialogue something your sad islam does not allow you to do, and your dictators control your papers, immans tell you to put on bomb belts to kill yourself and innocents for they are the true cowards, who hide among their women and children. so tell me why l should not think arab muslims are cowards? why does it say in the koran to ambush and kill people..
convince me your Islam is a relgion of peace, as so far your record sucks.
at May 29, 2006 3:20 PM
Golly, using Ayatollah Khomeini as an authority, how clever. What other quotes could we use from him? I would suggest that Guardian of Faith use someone other than Mr. Khomeini as a source. Also, Iran, under its present spiritual leader and president, have threatened Israel with extermination and the West with suicide bombers. I do not see that as non-belligerent.
Posted by: Worry at May 29, 2006 4:44 PM
I have many Muslim friends, individually they can be amongst the sweetest, most hospitable people you could ever hope to meet. However, like GuardianofFaith they are completely ignorant about the true nature of their so-called faith. What can you expect when they have been so comprehensively brainwashed from birth that they are incapable of critical thought and are consumed with guilt everytime they do something haram, which they just can't resist. On an individual level it is so so sad. Globally, however, it is terribly dangerous.
GuardianofFaith you need to talk to Dr Ali Sina at www.faithfreedom.org He can help you overcome this psychosis. There is hope, it's called "love".
Posted by: seanb at May 29, 2006 5:17 PM
Nostradamus-
"we should have secured the border...."
Some Israeli Mossad analysts just a few months after the US invasion of Iraq said we had lost. Why? Because we had neither the will nor the manpower to secure the borders of Iraq.
As soon as we skimped on troops and did not secure the borders, we lost. It would have taken about 300,000 US troops and a lot of tactical brillance along with cross-border strikes into Syria, Iran if necessary. Tough stuff. We didn't and everything since has been a long slow-motion defeat and humiliation.
Posted by: poetcomic1
at May 29, 2006 5:18 PM
In the name of he who is light,
First of all I would like to once again to mention the hypocrisy of this site. You claim to be the beacons of free speech and democracy. Twice now, I have been forced to make a new account, because after making one comment, the rest of my comments are being moderated. I am both GuardianOfFaith and RevolutionaryGuard.
Lulu, my friend, even freedom have speech has a limit. You are truly right, in a Muslim country you would not be able to shout such things, but I doubt you would be able to do in the western world either. Freedom of speech is not freedom to insult. Would you, for example be able to go in a street corner in Germany, or the Austria for example, and shout that the holocaust did not happen? Or for example, to call a rather annoying journalist in London a concentration camp guard without fearing the loss of your job?
Even in the west freedom of speech is limited. Even in your site.
Now, about Islam. Islam is an extremely flexible religion, and it fits to the time. There are many different schools of thougt, each with its own different interpretations of the Quran and Islamic teachings, however, the core beliefs and the aims, remian the same.
It pains me to see such misconceptions and lies about my faith present in you and others like you. Brother, ignorance leads to fear and hatred.
Why is Islam the religion of peace? Because peace is Islam, and peace is a fundamental part of our faith.
Allah says in the Quran:
If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things. [8:61]
The prophet of mankind (pbuh) said:
"(Allah) has revealed to me that you should adopt humility so that no one oppresses another." Riyadh-us-Salaheen, Hadith 1589.
The one who followed the reign of the prophet of mankind (pbuh) has said:
'People are divided into two groups. Either they are your brothers in faith, or your brothers in humanity'.
Imam Ali (as)
Islam is the perfect religion. If followed correctly, there is no clearer path to eternal paradise. In the Quran Allah sets the challengs;
If you doubt what We have revealed to Our servant, produce one chapter comparable to it. Call upon your idols to assist you, if what you say be true. But if you fail (as you are sure to fail) then guard yourselves against the Fire whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the unbelievers.
Q 2:23-5
Brothers in humanity, believe not all that you read in sites such as these, believe not all you hear and see on your TV screens, believe not all that you read in your newspapers. Whoever controls the media controls the minds of the masses. Free yourself from the traps you are placed under. Open your minds, and remove the veil which has been placed over it.
Learn more about Islam, and God willing we will all find the truth.
Awaiting the saviour of mankind, Imam Mahdi (as) and his comrade Prophet Jesus (pbuh).
Posted by: AwaitingtheReturn at May 29, 2006 6:45 PM
Awaiting Truth Guardian whatever-
Mohammad was an intolerant warlord and unrepentant pedophile.
He approved of lying, murdering, stealing, assassinating women poets who mocked him with satirical verse, raping, and terrorism to promote his "religion of peace".
Follow him at your peril.
Nothing good comes from bad seeds.
Mohammad is the baddest seed of all.
"By their fruits ye shall know them."
(Or, in Mohammad's case, by their nuts.)
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 29, 2006 9:03 PM
Here we have a troll again advocating the ROP. Do you understand troll the number of people the followers of your ROP have killed and are killing till date ? Have you gone through the atrocities of your people of your faith ? NO other people inflict rape on young girls and boys and the subsequent death by decapitation that is recorded in history across so many cultures. And, no other people behave in such a universal zombie like fashion. Even the savages of African tribes that are still wild have some diversification in the small populations that they have. They have some individual thought. And, no other people in the world worship a paedophile murderer and take him for their ideal. When muslims throughout the world protested against the cartoons of this paedophile, they never said that they are protesting him portrayed as a terrorist. No. They all said that they are protesting him being portrayed at all. ROP. It is a Cult Of The Sick.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 29, 2006 10:23 PM
AwaitingtheReturn said
Learn more about Islam
Of that you can be sure, my friend. We are learning more each and every day. And preparing.
Posted by: special_guest at May 29, 2006 10:33 PM
I think the best course to pursue would be to withdraw from iraq. The kurds can be given air cover, like before. This will make bombing iran easy. And we could let the rest of 'em massacre each other. Somebody like this idea ?
Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 30, 2006 2:17 AM
Don't you friggin' mohammedans ever quit whining?
You get "moderated" because you're a liar, and everything you say is so easily refuted that you're just a waste of space. Many of us know that filthy hate manual as well as you do so spare us your obfuscations you sniveling worm.
Posted by: Eisenhund at May 30, 2006 4:08 AM
Every time the Mohammedans murder innocent civilians in the name of their abeed rock in Mecca, we learn. Every time they destroy a temple, church or synogogue, blow up a bus or train, we learn. Every time they tell us how peaceful their cult of death is, we learn. We learn what dangerous, lying murderers these devils really are and that they cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
Sin fin.....
at May 30, 2006 7:46 AM
For THIS we've let 2500 Soldiers and Marines be killed? And 20,000 wounded? And 50,000 come home with PTSD? Thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Republican Voter.
Posted by: kj at May 30, 2006 11:40 AM
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