With friends like the Fraudis,
Who needs enmeies?

Posted by: Ironman Hondo at May 31, 2006 10:15 AM

Picture the scene, two British Marines standing in Basra, ‘now is that your Iraqi, Iranian, Saudi or Afghan insurgent Sarge?’ ‘I don’t know son, but I do know he’d dead’

Posted by: albion at May 31, 2006 10:31 AM

Maybe the saudis might want to rethink their plan?

Well china did put silver nightrate in the sky to kill the grems but they should know that it didn't work they still had 3 farms with bird kill and all the birds had been vac. with what the Chinese thought was their cure OOps guess the Chinese forgot to mention that??

And of course every one knows that tami flu might as well be a sugar pill??

that what happens when you have such a tight liped country and of course there is the book??

Revelation
11:8 and their dead bodies shall live in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sod’om and Egypt where also our lord was crucified.
11:9 and they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
11:10 and they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwell on the earth.
11:11 and after three days and a half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
11:13 and the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men of seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to God in heaven.
11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

WONDER IF THEY WERE TALKEN ABOUT MO-HAM-OD AND AL=LIE???

After all the largest mulsum country is haveing many deaths lately flood earthquakes and now plague and they had just signed deals against Jews and Christians OH MY

And we all know that N.Korea the men are so short because of hunger the bargans being made ???

Qur’an 72:3 “There were some foolish ones among us, who used to utter preposterous things, atrocious lies against the Lord; We Jinn [Devils] had thought that no man or jinn would ever say anything untrue about the Lord. But there were men who took shelter with the male jinn. But they (jinn) increased them in waywardness, folly, and revolt. And surely they came to think as you thought, that the Lord would not raise up any Messenger. We jinn pried into the secrets of heaven; but we found it filled with fierce guards, stern wardens and flaming fires. We used to sit there in, hidden in observatories, trying to steal a hearing; but any who listen now will find a shooting star and a flaming fire watching him, lying in wait as an ambush for him. And we Jinn know not whether harm or evil is the intended fate of all men on earth, or whether the Lord intends to give them some guidance.”

WELL WELL WHAT IS THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW??

Qur’an 6:66 “The people reject this (Book) and call it a lie though it is the truth. Say: ‘I am not a warden over you.’ ...When you see men who meddle with Our Revelations, turn away, withdrawing from them. Satan makes you forget.”

COULD THIS BE THE 666 THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE TALKS ABOUT NOT GOOD

Matthew
24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and earthquakes, in divers places
24:9 Then shall thy deliver you up to be afficted and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name sake.
24:11 and many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Dan’iel the prophet, stand in the holly place, (who so readth, let him understand)
25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from his goats:
25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom parpared for you from the foundation of the world:
25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them Verily I say unto you, Insamuch as ye have done it unto one of the lest of these my brethren ye have done unto me.
25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for devil and his angels:
25:42 For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment; but the righteous into life eternal.

NOW THATS HEAVY

Qur’an 9:113 “It is not fitting for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray for the forgiveness for disbelievers, even though they be close relatives, after it is clear to them that they are the inmates of the Flaming Hell Fire.”

COULD THIS BE A GOAT??

Qur’an 4:91 “You will find others who, while wishing to live in peace and being safe from you to gain the confidence of their people; thrown back to mischief headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and offer you peace besides restraining their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear sanction and authority.” [So if you wish to live in peace, but are perceived as being mischievous (i.e., non-Muslim), Allah has given his Jihad warriors “a clear sanction and authority to seize and kill” you.]

COULD THIS BE A GOAT

Qur’an 9:23 “Believers, take not for friends your fathers and your brothers if they love disbelief above belief. If you do, you do wrong. Say: If your fathers, your sons, your families, your wives, relatives and property which you have acquired, and the slackness of trade which you fear and dwellings which you like, are dearer to you than Allah and His Messenger and striving hard, fighting in His Cause, then wait till Allah brings about His torment.”

YEP GOAT

Romans
9:4 Who are Is’ra-el-ites to whom Pertaineth and adoption, and the glory, and covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and promises;
9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For thy are not all Is’ra-el, which are of Is’ra-el:
9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abra-ham, are they all children but, in I’saac shall thy seed be called.

NOW THAT IS HEAVY THE SEED OF ISAAC AND THOSE ADOPTED WOULD THAT BE CHRISTIANS??

THE Right hand and the Left hand and what about the sign the locus were not destroyed until Israel where they didn't harm the land?
And it was them that helped the saudis yet again vow broken

Now the bird flu comes and it is the the vow breaker whom will have done to them as they have done to others Oh My but the cost how sad.

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to Destroy All Islamic Terrorist and All who Support them Let not the World be Deceived by them Amen

Posted by: Catherine at May 31, 2006 10:52 AM

What's comical, is that to a learned textbook strategist like myself, the amibtions and scheming of the Saudi princes are laughably transparent. Their lies have gone on long enough, just like the lies of Islam and Muhammad.

The Western world has GOT to get rid of this oil dependency and stop coddling these barbarian millionaire would-be-gods. Money has so corrupted the established leadership in most Muslim-Arab nations that they are practically a merging of the old French royal arrogance and Bedouin lusts, with a good healthy dose of cultist dogma and intolerance tossed in.

The United States was founded in part because of a rejection of royal rule. I do not cater to these shieks and their arrogance. I would stomp them out like rats if I had the chance.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 31, 2006 11:22 AM

Commanders are concerned that Saudi and other foreign fighters are co-ordinating the attacks in a "consensual environment", in which the locals will not tell the military where roadside bombs have been planted. "The concern is that support for our presence is going down," a defence source said.
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And just how many think that mo's will turn in mo's????

Posted by: Texican at May 31, 2006 11:59 AM

The Saudi influence on terrorism in Shia-dominated Basra has not been previously reported … Although the majority of Saudi Arabians are Sunni, the minority Shia have taken part in terrorist attacks....

Also, in the linked-article we are reminded that Shiite Iran is allied with Sunni Syria. Once again, the so-called Sunni-Shiite separation (like the jihadists-Baathist separation) is more of a myth than the hard-and-fast rule that we are led to believe. Only the infidels remain the enemy.

Posted by: JasonP at May 31, 2006 12:59 PM

The sooner the west isnt reliant apon Saudi oil the sooner we can give the Saudis the kick up the ass they need.

Posted by: Berf at May 31, 2006 1:22 PM

albion said

Picture the scene, two British Marines standing in Basra, ‘now is that your Iraqi, Iranian, Saudi or Afghan insurgent Sarge?’ ‘I don’t know son, but I do know he’d dead’

It would be very instructive if we were given a breakdown on the country-of-origin on the dead/captured terrorists in Iraq. Or how about a breakdown on which sect of Islam they belonged. Are they all really Sunni Wahhabists like we've been told over and over?

First of all, I doubt the Administration would recognize the significance of the answer to those two questions, they would never bother to ask. Second of all, I doubt they would release the information. Is it really just a few radicals from a particular sect or a particular country like the Middle East Experts (tm) tell us, or is it an across-the-board monolithic Islamic undertaking like the jihadists themselves tell us?

Are there any "moderate" Muslims going to fight the "extremists" in Iraq? You know, to bring that freedom and democracy and civil liberty that the "vast majority of moderate Muslims" all around the world want? What? Even though they vastly outnumber the "few radical Muslims", you mean they can't even scare up a few fighters who think those are values worth fighting for? Huh, that's weird.

I'm thinking of the Spanish Civil war, where freedom lovers from around the world converged to fight the forces of fascism. Even in the American Revolution, the recently democratized French came to the aid. In the Islamic world, where are those forces fighting for freedom? This is the time and the place to do it, where are they?

Posted by: special_guest at May 31, 2006 2:33 PM

I stand corrected, Godefroi.

Posted by: special_guest at May 31, 2006 3:03 PM

And in 1790-93 the new French Revolutionary Conor Cruise O'Brien

But to whom exactly, in Saint-Domingue, did the doctrine of the Rights of man apply? Not to the slaves, obviously...

Conor Cruise O'Brien has an interesting analysis of this, and of the reactions of Jefferson and others to it, in The Long Affair.

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 31, 2006 3:31 PM

Darn, the mouse slipped and it seems I lost most of the text of the post.

Try again.

And in 1790-93 the new French Revolutionary Government was putting down the revolt of the slaves on Saint-Domingue.

But to whom exactly, in Saint-Domingue, did the doctrine of the Rights of man apply? Not to the slaves, obviously...

Conor Cruise O'Brien has an interesting analysis of this, and of the reactions of Jefferson and others to it, in The Long Affair.

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 31, 2006 3:33 PM

(aka Louis DeCapet)

Posted by: jsla at May 31, 2006 3:50 PM

(aka Louis sansCapet ??? -- I don't know any frenshhhhh)

Posted by: jsla at May 31, 2006 3:51 PM

The concern is that support for our presence is going down," a defence source said.

it seems the locals have forgotten already the barbaric Saddam. and or their fear of the insurgents can instill the same terror as did Saddam. would they prefer to return back the clock and have Saddam back?

Posted by: Lulu at May 31, 2006 7:47 PM

This is not the 'fault' of the Saudis, but of the leadership of the U.S. who have failed to do the primary thing in any combat: secure your perimeter.

If the borders of Iraq are too porous, who is to blame but those not guarding them?

And, if we weren't prepared to do this hard, serious, troop-intensive work in combat, why did we go to war in the first place? ("With the army we had, and not the army we wished we had." as some idiot said.)

Like sailing a boat into an uncharted sea with more holes than bailers.

Fools.

F*ck-ups.

The Saudi jihadis are just taking completely-predictable advantage of our leaders' collective failure to fight a war as a war.

As mosquitos will enter a hole in a screen door and look for the blood of the lazy dolt who won't get up and put some duct tape over the tear.

I blame Rumsfeld and Bush for being blinded by their own pollyanna-ish theories and lacking the brains to read Sun Tzu "The Art of War", Mao Tse Tung's "Guerilla Warfare", or Osama Bin Laden's own well-known plans.

Fools.

F*ck ups.

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 31, 2006 8:34 PM

This doesn't sound logical, as it is Shia territory and we all know Iraq is in a civil war....Sunni vs. Shia. And, afterall, it's the Shiites who are stealing the oil in Basra and in control of that area, not Sunni Saudi's.

Posted by: Bonniea at May 31, 2006 10:16 PM

Mao Tse Tung's "Guerilla Warfare"

To quote the esteemed Catherine, "Gold star for you today!", profitsbeard.

You don't have to be a soldier or a communist to recognize the truisms contained in that little treatise. A guerilla movement cannot operate without the goodwill of the people. Kinda puts Haditha into perspective. The idea of "innocent" civilians in areas of high terrorist activity is laughable. Same in Basrah and any number of other colorful locales in Greater Mesopotamia.

Just because you're not wearing a uniform or carrying a Kalashnikov, RPG-7, or Strella, that doesn't mean you're not my enemy. If you make a terrorist a sandwich, give him a cot, or don't report him or his activities to me, you're with him. You're my enemy. If you're not smart enough to run away or shoot at me when you're my enemy, you're just making my job of killing you easier.

If you're a mohammedan and you think that there is a war going on against islam, you're living in a dream world. If half the things I trained to do during my time in uniform, to be used against Christian Russians and Buddhist/Confucian/Atheist North Koreans, I did to mohammedans, I'd be in Leavenworth for "war crimes".

As I've said in a previous post, weeks ago, all armies have infrastructures, even those armies who don't wear uniforms. There is a jihadi infrastructure. Enablers, apologists, those who turn a blind eye to terrorists, who fail to report jihadi activity, who constantly whine about the conduct of Coalition troops while ignoring the crimes of their fellow mohammedans, who provide room, board, transportation, aid, and comfort are all part of the terrorist support system.

As it is laid out in the koran. If you can't kill, support the killers. That's your part in the jihad. Do what you can for the effort.

Weeelll...goes both ways. If you're not killing jihadis yourselves, you "moderate, peaceful" mohammedans, you're helping those of us who are hunting them down. If you're doing neither, you are not helping our side. You are helping the enemy.

That makes you the enemy.

Yes, all 1.x billion of you.

Stick that in your hookah along with some of that fine Afghan heroin, and smoke it.

If you don't like that characterization and suggestion, I really don't give a damn.

Posted by: Eisenhund at May 31, 2006 10:24 PM

One of the lessons of the Kosovo war was that a government conducting a war soon loses support among its population when it can't maintain basic services: gas, water, electricity, sewerage systems, staple industries. Milosevic realised the game was up when the lights went off in Belgrade. Iraq's Sunnis took this lesson to heart and have kept Iraq in a state of chronic discontent because of American inabilty to sort these things out.
I know it's against international law to wage war on non-combatants but it's remarkably effective.
Wouldn't it be a pity if accidents started happening in public service plant serving various Iranian and Saudi cities. Unlikely, of course, but there's an old engineering adage that if things can go wrong, they will go wrong. If they did, perhaps the locals would put their bad luck down to not minding their own business and maybe decide it's a bad idea to go fishing in troubled waters.

Posted by: wallyUK at June 1, 2006 12:23 AM

"I blame Rumsfeld and Bush for being blinded by their own pollyanna-ish theories and lacking the brains to read Sun Tzu "The Art of War", Mao Tse Tung's "Guerilla Warfare", or Osama Bin Laden's own well-known plans.

Fools.

F*ck ups. "

Profitsbeard is just not hip to the modern American methods of compassionate warfare. You see, the old fashion way, as in WWII, was to so devastate the enemy that what remained of them had no will to fight anymore. But that entails killing so many people (even some non-combatants dare I say) that our sensitive people back home will get way too upset. No the modern Rumsfeld -Bush way is too make our troops winners of hears & minds of all the muslims they meet, try to democratic nation build for all the warring muslim factions of the country, provide the troops with ethics training and admonish them watch out for all those non-combatants (who might even be provided with ACLU lawyers). The evident idea is that in so doing the Islam-inspired enemy can forever continue to kick our troops in the ass from all directions while laughing so hard that they are just bound to fall over dead from lack of oxygen.

Posted by: Odysseus at June 1, 2006 3:24 PM