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It sure seems as if raging, frothing, obsessive types, flinging wild charges without evidence, and simultaneously claiming the moral high ground, are coming out of the woodwork these days. Here are yet more: The Muslim Public Affairs Council of the United Kingdom (MPACUK), which styles itself "the UK's Leading Muslim civil liberties group, empowering Muslims to focus on non-violent Jihad and political activism."
But MPACUK doesn't seem so moderate in "Masajid and ISOCs Silent As Zionists Move In On Inayat Bunglawala!," a hysterical article about the Little Green Footballs death threat brouhaha (about which the latest update here). This expands in a big way upon Bunglawala's own piece of paranoid conspiracy-mongering as he denied that he sent the death threat: "Methinks some Zionists are up to mischief."
"See with your own eyes that I am standing here firm and determined, and I will not flee" Khalid Bin Waleed. Today we can reveal that Inayat Bunglawala the pro Palestinian Media spokesperson for the MCB has been the target of Zionists around the world, in an onslaught that began last Thursday (25.05.06), in an all out campaign to have him sacked from his job. Someone had sent an offensive email from the same workplace to a Zionist Blog [that would be LGF]. The person who sent the email was indeed suspended last Friday (26.05.06).The Zionist machine as organised and well funded as it is, tracked it back to the work place of Inayat. Now the central nervous system of the Zionist machine sent an alert around the world. Thinking they had him trapped, they launched a world wide campaign to have him sacked.
MPACUK has always said that individual Zionists may harm Muslims, but in reality, any major attack on a Muslim group or leader is co-ordinated, even if it seems like it's coming from an individual. The attack on Ken Livingstone for example has all the hallmarks of a planned and co-ordinated attack. It may have taken months if not years to plan and organise, the public may have seen a furore around him then, but you can bet your bottom dollar that was the tip of the ice berg.
Zionist Blogs too, are too well researched and co-ordinated to be the work of individuals.
Curses, Jihad Watchers! They are on to us!
No part time nut could watch every minute for any slip by a Muslim group as vigilantly as they do. Most probably they are part of a well funded central network. They are another weapon in the growing armoury of the Zionist machine that is deployed against Muslims.
You're right, fellows. I am strictly a full-time nut.
They are used to frighten, smear and intimidate Muslim groups and individuals that stand up against Israel. They target organisations, then isolate individuals within those organisations and then use all their powers in a sustained co-ordinated attack to smash the person and destroy them.Today we can reveal that Inayat Bunglawala the pro Palestinian Media spokesperson for the MCB was targeted by Zionists around the world last Thursday (25.05.06) in an all out campaign to have him sacked from his job. This is how quickly they can mobilise given even the slightest scent of blood. Someone from the same workplace sent an offensive email to a Zionist Blog. The Zionist machine as organised and well funded as it is, tracked it back to the work place of Inayat.
Now the central nervous system of the Zionist machine sent an alert around the world. Thinking they had him trapped, they launched a world wide campaign to have him sacked. Calls flooded Inayat's workplace demanding he be sacked for (you guessed it) - 'anti-Semitic'! Emails from around the world, many from the USA flooded in demanding his sacking too.
Call after call from prominent UK Zionist organisations demanded meetings with the organisation to 'discuss the incident'. The news spread and appeared in the Zionist press from Canada to Israel. (Now you know what we mean by a well oiled machine!). A Muslim leader was about to fall, and they all knew about it and were relentless.
Now stop and reflect for just a minute. Zionists were able to mobilise from around the world to attack a British Muslim Leader, within 24 hours. Yet our pacified, incompetent Muslim 'Leaders' right here in the UK did not even acknowledge this. Muslims thus were not mobilised or even made aware of the attack against one of our spokesmen and a defender of Palestine. At this moment if MPACUK did not report it, only a handful of Muslims would have known about it - correct? No Mosque would have mentioned it or taken much needed action to inform the community and mobilise us. Not a single Muslim 'Leader' would take action....
If you feel this is no big deal then you are on the wrong website, please re-direct your reading. If however you are shocked at the powerful nature of those who attack you, and are more angry at the incompetent nature of those who are currently supposed to be defending you then fund us, or join us. Together we can protect men like Inayat from the most powerful enemies Muslims have faced in a thousand years.
Wow. The heck with Pajamas Media -- where can I sign up for this Zionist Blog thing?
Posted by Robert at May 31, 2006 8:00 PM
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Oh my, this has to be the most amusing development in the LGF death threat circus. LOL The muslims sure know how to play victim. *rolls eyes*
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at May 31, 2006 8:43 PM
These people whine more than my little girl
Posted by: patriot4 at May 31, 2006 8:46 PM
the most powerful enemies Muslims have faced in a thousand years.
I warned um bout messing with trailer trash, we like nascar, beer, and ok, more beer. Way 2 much for ta have muslims takein it aways. I ain’t thought of myself as powerful but I’d reckin cousin earl shore is. Ya’ll best just act right, now ya hear?
at May 31, 2006 8:52 PM
LOL
Posted by: patriot4 at May 31, 2006 8:54 PM
Witness an angst filled writer splashing petrol on himself and then striking a match.
Who knows, he might just receive a raise for this.
Posted by: deesine at May 31, 2006 9:01 PM
“an onslaught”
“an all out campaign to have him sacked from his job”
“organised and well funded”
“an alert around the world.”
“launched a world wide campaign to have him sacked.”
“any major attack….is co-ordinated, even if it seems like it's coming from an individual.”
“It may have taken months if not years to plan and organize”
“part of a well funded central network”
” used to frighten, smear and intimidate”
“This is how quickly they can mobilise given even the slightest scent of blood.”
“Call after call from prominent … organisations demanded meetings ….'discuss the incident'.””
“Now stop and reflect for just a minute. xxxxxxx were able to mobilise from around the world to attack ……. within 24 hours.”
And this is their description of and response to a simple blog post by a blogger who got a death threat by one of them and bothered to take the time to find out who was threatening him?
Wow !
And this from those with a history of :
-using our laws to silence their critics by sacking them with huge law suits which take months if not years to play out
-spreading literally billions of dollars over decades throughout the west to buy off just about everyone
-mobilizing Muslims worldwide to embark on violent riots which result in the deaths of innocent bystanders (cartoons, e.g.)
--mobilizing even local Muslims through cell phones to go on local gang rampages smashing and burning everything in sight in response to perceived insults (France, Australia)
- slowly and patiently planning and coordinating over a period of decades infiltration into the west’s every institution from local schools to intelligence services
-maintaining ongoing life-long death threats (fatwas) against those who have offended them, causing those targeted to live in fear for the rest of their lives
PROJECTION?
Or so far beyond the normal bounds of what one could normally pass off as projection (in terms of the denial and double-standards involved) as to cross the line into the realm of outright INSANITY?
Posted by: Caroline at May 31, 2006 9:22 PM
I am a full time nut too....I spend all my free time in the study of how to defeat jihad....Like asking muslims....why doesnt allah just strike us kafirs dead and save you muslims all the work?...Then the pure islam of a 1,ooo years ago would shine thru....but noooooo ole allaha makes you kill and rape for him...ever wonder why?
Posted by: storagemanager at May 31, 2006 9:27 PM
Zionist Blogs too, are too well researched and co-ordinated to be the work of individuals.
No part time nut could watch every minute for any slip by a Muslim group as vigilantly as they do.
Imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery, but formulating grandiose conspiracy theories has to be up there, too.
Posted by: Shinoliite at May 31, 2006 9:30 PM
Young British jihadis
out of their league.
They need to do what the kafir do,
and they don't know how,
they need to know what the kafir know
but they can't be taught.
The jihadis can never learn
how to be creative,
their box is too small.
at May 31, 2006 9:37 PM
The truly hillarious aspect of this garbage: The Islamic "conspiracy theory" rhetoric is all about "Jews" (in other words, "Zionists") controlling every perceived anti-Islam event in the world.
The truth is that many (most?) Western, Liberal secular Jews have become Islam's unknowing ally. The ACLU (70% Jewish lawyers) and other such groups (which defend CAIR and fight traditional Western/Judeo-Christian sentiment and would prevent any discussion of Muslim immigration control) are made up of many Liberal, Secular Jews. Liberal, Secular Jews have a disproportionate control of the Western, Liberal mainstream media. This is the same media allowing Islam to flourish in the West, while ignoring the true evil in the Muslim World/Islamic scripture. The same media that hammers Israel and religious Jews and Christians. I could go on, but the disturbing aspect is that the same people who would suffer most under Sharia Law are unwittingly allowing Muslims to bring it. They "seem" to hate their own religious Jewish brothers.
This is not being anti-Jewish, as I love Israel and wish Jews the best. I have the utmost respect for Jews in Israel who are standing up to the world threat of radical Islam. I would give my life for Israel and those attempting to live in freedom there. I realize believing and Israel-loving Jews and settlers have put their lives on the line in the fight against Sharia/Islamic control.
Bottom line: Many Muslims don't seem to understand that Jews are the least of their problems. Christians, Hindus, heck: virtually every non-Muslim group of human beings are a much bigger threat than "Zionists". In fact, Liberal Jews are the best thing Islam has in the West. If the Muslims were to take out the Liberal, secular Jews (the ones they believe are causing all problems for Islam), Islam will have lost a great ally.
I'm just curious: If there are any Israel-loving, non-Liberal Jews on this site, what do you think about the Liberal, Secular Jews fighting for CAIR and against Israel. I realize that not "ALL" Liberal, Secular Jews fall in this boat. However, enough fall in this boat to bring the question.
Posted by: hello123 at May 31, 2006 9:46 PM
we need Anti-Jihad mailers....door hangers...something...
Posted by: storagemanager at May 31, 2006 9:50 PM
we all donate to send anti-jihad books out...somewhere...must be more we can do
Posted by: storagemanager at May 31, 2006 9:53 PM
the utter stupidity of islam just does not cease.
Posted by: Texican at May 31, 2006 10:02 PM
The Zionist bashing is the one thing that unites all cry baby moslems. Here is little Isreal, in the midst of all of its muslim enemies hovering in their own filth, who created a land of opportunity and progress and who have provided jobs for muslims who don't want to go back to the caves they came from. Call it JEALOUSY. Isreal is a threat to muslim stupidity and ignorance but MPUPCHUCK can't continue its smoke and mirrors. Only a strong diet of Islam would allow someone to live in squalor when they could live in house with a garden in a civilized society. The mask of Islam is melting and only the lame and impotent will stand behind it. No wonder they are so willing to kill themselves: they have nothing to live for, no human self image only a plastic allah and a heart full of hate.
Posted by: Briars at May 31, 2006 10:09 PM
Wow. The heck with Pajamas Media -- where can I sign up for this Zionist Blog thing?
All I want to know is how's the pay at the Zionist blogs? Maybe I'm in the wrong line of work.
Posted by: dennisw at May 31, 2006 10:14 PM
"Powerful Zionist enemy..."
Show me the money!
Hahah! The Bungla wallah ding dong strikes back
or is it rather: The revenge of the Bungla Wallah Ding Dong?
at May 31, 2006 10:17 PM
I want two bumper stickers, one to read:
"PROUD MEMBER OF THE VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY"
Another to say" PROUD MEMBER OF THE ZIONIST MACHINE" Even though I am a Methodist.
If everything that MPACUK said were true, there would be no need for sites like LGF or Jihad Watch or FFI or any other anti-jihad site. We would be safe and our futures secure. Ya know, I truly wish it were true.
Posted by: Pelayo at May 31, 2006 10:17 PM
Let us not forget that the antisemitism goes all the way back to 624 AD or so in Yathrib, when the slaughter of the Jews started. Antisemitism, jealousy of the Jews, is the very bedrock of Islam.
About a year ago, I heard on the radio Hugh Hewitt and Victor Davis Hanson having an intense conversation trying to trace down the resurgence of antisemitism. Duh. The Moslems moved in. Go back to Harvard or Yale and crack a book; it won't kill ya.
MO MOSLEMS PROBLEMS IMAMS POGROMS MURDERING MOMS ATOM BOMBS MO MO
Like a suppurated syphilis sore, they carry their murderous hatred and childish conspiracy theories wherever they go.
And it all started with Mohammed, perhaps the biggest jackass in world history.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 31, 2006 10:19 PM
The truly hillarious aspect of this garbage: The Islamic "conspiracy theory" rhetoric is all about "Jews" (in other words, "Zionists") controlling every perceived anti-Islam event in the world.
Muslims must be scratching their heads ... Why oh why did Allah make 12 million people so powerful they could make the so called ummah (1.5 billion and growing!) dance to it's tune. Perhaps the "Islamic Thinkers Society" can figure this one out
Posted by: dennisw at May 31, 2006 10:20 PM
hello123
I'm just curious: If there are any Israel-loving, non-Liberal Jews on this site, what do you think about the Liberal, Secular Jews fighting for CAIR and against Israel. I realize that not "ALL" Liberal, Secular Jews fall in this boat. However, enough fall in this boat to bring the question.
I'm Jewish. I'm very unhappy with the liberal educated Jews. They have serious tunnel vision. This country is too full of liberal loudmouth Jewish lawyers who work for the worst causes. ACLU in particular. I go ballistic when I see the ACLU forcing San Diego to take down it's cross that has been there for years and is also a war memorial. In a very military town. Lots of Navy are there. I hate it when the ACLU goes after Christmas displays. Facts are the ACLU is mostly Jewish lawyers
Posted by: dennisw at May 31, 2006 10:28 PM
hello123, Liberal Secular Jews are also in the forefront of gun control. For a different perspective, go to jpfo.org, aka Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. My kind of people.
at May 31, 2006 10:39 PM
Dennisw,
Thank you for the response. After having spent 6 months in Israel/Egypt (peacekeeping mission), I am about as pro-Israel as you can get. Believe it or not, I went into that assignment with the idea that Israel was as much to blaim as the Arabs/Palestineans (media brainwashing!!).
I found, after having spent time talking to Israelis, Palestinians, Egyptians, and Jordanians: Most of the Israelis sincerely wanted peace. The "right-wingers" were just the realists who understood the reality of the Islamist mindset (No Israel, no Jews!). The Arab-Muslim maps didn't show Israel, and the hatred boggled my mind. They Muslims did not recognize Israel's right to exist and HATED Jews. I mean HATED them.
In Israel, I saw the hundreds of thousands of Arab-Muslim Israelis who were given all rights. I saw Arab-Muslim members of the Knesset. In the Muslim lands, I saw Hitler's wet dream: Jew-free and Jew-hating lands. This is a fact accepted throughout the world: over 800,000 Jews were displaced due to the new Israeli state. These Jews were booted from their ancient Arab lands to make those lands "Jew free". Interestingly, the world community would go beserk if Israel booted all the Muslim Israelis. However, pulling "settlements" from "Palestinian" lands is a must. Hypocracy!
As an evangelical Christian, I just cannot understand how so many Liberal/secular American Jews are turncoats to Israel and Judaism. I feel such a connection to Israel, and would do anything in her defense. This is not religious, but because Israel stands for all the Western Values I hold so dear and defends them.
Michael Moore is Jewish, and yet pumps money into causes that would help bring Muslim domination. So many American Liberal Jews don't seem to feel any sense of connection to Israel or to the cause of fighting militant Islam.
I'm just wondering if the Liberal American Jews fighting for Sami Al Arian, Gitmo prisoners, CAIR, etc. will ever understand what they are doing to their own people. If Islam were to dominate, every Jew in the West would be dead meat ASAP. It is so clear. Of course, I guess even the Nazi's found turncoats to help keep order in the concentration camps. This is starting to look quite similar.
Of course, the Muslims "intelligencia" is so friggin stupid they think all Jews are their worst enemies. If Muslim intellectuals had one lick of sense, they would be cheering on the Jewish/Zionist "conspiracy" of Liberal Jews in media, legal, etc. Their best friends.
Posted by: hello123 at May 31, 2006 10:59 PM
I have good news...after taking the secret plans for Zion out of the safe and giving them the once over....We are on track....soon we will own the world....and change its name to Zion...hahahaha...the fools...they were right...
Posted by: storagemanager at May 31, 2006 11:03 PM
Alright, which member of the Great Zionist Conspiracy has been bedding nubile Muslim girls and talking in his sleep?
They're on to us!
Time to go wind my Zionist Machine.
(You should see the size of the key!)
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 31, 2006 11:11 PM
storagemanager,
Shhhh! This is TOP SECRET, EYES ONLY info. You're going to let them in on all the plans. You must immediately change the safe's combination. One more slip and you are on Double Secret Probation.
at May 31, 2006 11:14 PM
Whatever happened to Jew domination of the media?
I mean, couldn't they get the word out to Joe Sixpack about the fact that anybody who can read for a few hours can know for definitely sure that Islam is a World Takeover Kink Kult, and not a religion.
C'mon Jews, dominate our minds with that IJC mind control machine that Adolf Hitler and David Duke and the boys are always droning on about.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 31, 2006 11:20 PM
It's sickening that these mindless scum use "Zionism" in exactly the same way the Nazis use the word "Jew" - as an accusatory term, as if to imply some kind of "guilty" verdict, a labeling of the chosen enemy, merely on the basis of racial discrimination. To these people 'outing' someone as "Zioninst" is no different to sticking a yellow badge on their arm, it's a 'legitimate' byword for their intended hatred, more venomous than "kike", "hooknose", "hebe" or any other pythonesque cliche. Something similar happened with African Americans - the meanings of the word "black" and "negro" became inverted, the connotations swapped due to racist bigotry and James Brown's embracing of "black pride". Up until then, the word "black" had been meant in a derogatory way. At least that's what he has said in interview... The Jihadists rarely seem to use the word Jew any more, like its not 'stinging' enough.
Posted by: Animus at May 31, 2006 11:39 PM
"... empowering Muslims to focus on non-violent Jihad and political activism."- from the article above
Oh, well, that's all right, nothing to worry about so, non-violent jihad is perfectly acceptable (sarc).
It's such a joke that Bunglwalla's immediate response was to atack 'zionists'. All of us DW/JW could predict that, once you know the ideology and minset, they are totally predictable.
And the likes of him are official adivsors to the Uk government. I've said it before, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but the UK has lobotomised itself, I cannot think of any other explanation. Why they bought into this 'covenant of security' business ..
Meanwhile, Ireland with circa 15k Muslim, (most immigrants to Ireland so far are Eastern European, but a couple of guys were arrested a couple of weeks ago in Stansted on their way to Ireland, which means there is a safe haven there, and of course, Qaradawi, he of the 13-year-old plural wife, also has his headquarters there) is taking advice from Swedish expatriates on how to deal with immigrants.
But somehow I doubt if they are giving the Irish the full picture on crime, rapes, murders as supplied by Fjordman, they will only be given the nicey-nicey stuff, enrichment etc. What this enrichment business is supposed to mean, I cannot understand, I must be missing something, how has Islam 'enriched' any of us. Codology. Taquiyya.
I spoke to my brother-in-law, a teacher in Dublin a while back and mentioned immigration, (it's a relatively new subject there) and he was all for it, it added interest and diversity, he thought, which is all well and good, Ireland could do with a shot in the arm in some ways, but then I asked him if it was all good and he said, "Oh, you mean the other gang", and then silence fell..
We all have our reservations but dare not articulate them, and this was before the cartoon jhad, but because we do not speak up it will continue until it is too late.
I predict there will be autonomous muslim enclaves in Europe within 10 years. Yes, there are such now, but in ten years they will be officially recognised, maybe in five years actually, and all newly converted muslims will be persuaded to move into them, and they will expand and expand...just look at history, they are following a template: the muslim city-state.
That is the most annoying thing, they are so predictable. They could be stopped so easily in their tracks if we but read their history. There are none so blind as those who will not see. Always true.
Posted by: Silvester at May 31, 2006 11:43 PM
I've said above that I don't want to offend the British, but in all my years living here, I have not had the opportunity of voting in a referendum. There is no written constitution. Now I know British people will say this is a good thing. Please explain to me why this is so. Believe me, I want to be reassured, because I live here.
My feeling living here is, I have to be so careful what I say. People here are subjects, not citizens, my husband, God bless him, pays a fortune in tax, and yet I'm subjected to a godawful NHS doctor who qualified God-knows-where telling me how to live my life, and if I go to a private doctor the NHS will insist on knowing about it incorporating their records about me. That to me is state totalitarianism, which I never experienced in the country of my birth. I feel in UK constantly under the eye of Big Brother. I don't feel the UK is a proper democracy. It has no written constitution. I don't feel I have any inalienable rights.
I never thought I would say this as an Irish person, but my hope lies in the House of Lords, they are the only body that seems to have retained any common sense in this country, and of course Princess Tony is bent on destroying it by filling it with his cronies.
Why cannot we vote for 'none of the above', I do not want to vote for the BNP. Why does the British government insist on collecting so much information about me and my family?
Maybe I'm paranoid. Maybe Ireland since I left it has somewhat gone down the same road, but I do not think so.
I can go to a doctor in Ireland and I feel what I do and say there is confidential, I do not have to be on anybody's 'list'.
I do not feel that in Britain. The NHS I'm sure has done immeasurable good, but not paying at the door puts you in other people's power. In England, people expect the nhs to pay for everything, even painkillers, cough mixtures, etc., and they moan about the price if they have to pay for it themselves. I have never before seen a people wanting to be so slavish. Do people not understand that if they get these things 'for free' (which of course is rubbish, someone, somewhere is paying the taxes for it), they become slaves, and give state authorities the right to interfere in their lives.
Posted by: Silvester
at June 1, 2006 12:08 AM
Michael Moore is Irish Catholic, not Jewish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_moore
Posted by: echoparkdirt at June 1, 2006 12:11 AM
Please excuse the rant above, it's more than somewhat OT...
Posted by: Silvester at June 1, 2006 12:16 AM
Muslims don't want to destroy Israel out of "jealousy."
It's a very simple equation: the Dar-al-Islam shall one day encompass the entire world. Any land once conquered or settled by Muslims (see, your local mosque) must be held at all costs. HAMAS is already looking past Israel to Spain. After that, France. Israel is just one part of a global strategy of world domination.
It's in the Qur'an, as the song says.
Posted by: Beagle at June 1, 2006 12:24 AM
I'm just wondering if the Liberal American Jews fighting for Sami Al Arian, Gitmo prisoners, CAIR, etc. will ever understand what they are doing to their own people. If Islam were to dominate, every Jew in the West would be dead meat ASAP. It is so clear. Of course, I guess even the Nazi's found turncoats to help keep order in the concentration camps. This is starting to look quite similar.
Of course, the Muslims "intelligencia" is so friggin stupid they think all Jews are their worst enemies. If Muslim intellectuals had one lick of sense, they would be cheering on the Jewish/Zionist "conspiracy" of Liberal Jews in media, legal, etc. Their best friends.
Posted by: hello123 at May 31, 2006 10:59 PM
___________________________
Well put!
As a Jew, my anger surpasses my shame when the ACLU do more for the
Muslims in terms of PR and propaganda in one day than the Muslims do in a year!
If you wanna commit suicide, fine....but dont put my ass in harms' way...
I've given up trying to figure it out - whether it's a misguided attempt to be
the "worldly mediator" or just the same old guilt ridden angst.
All I know is the pro-active secular-liberal Jew is fast becoming enemy Number 2
My only contribution to the cause (in addition to reading jihadwatch.com daily) is teaching a weekly instructional class in Close Quarter Battle(CQB) with rifles (AR15, AK) and pistols at the local range.
Would I put my life on the line for Israel?
I dunno...gotta think hard on that one.
My life for this country?
In a New York minute!
Put my life in harms way against a threatening Muslim?
In a heart beat!
Keep up the fight!
docgary
Posted by: docgary at June 1, 2006 12:44 AM
Israel is screwed on both counts. The lesser jihad AND jealousy. More than jealousy, Islam is only sanctified in their view if it completely supplants Judaism. It's next to meaningless if it doesn't completely supercedes Judaism. Then Christianity. And once the West has fallen the rest is just a mopping up job...
Pure speculation, but I agree with Silvester above - despite trying to put a brave face on it, Islam does seem to hold all the cards. And who knows what's up their sleave, or under their robes (ugh)... failing an all-out, concerted and unified defence (ie. full-on open warfare) against the threat, Europe is unlikely to even be playing with a full deck. We'll lose by the three D's, by attrition...
Whether we end up as warring enclaves like the Balkans, or slowing but inexcorably slide under the thumb of the coming caliphate with only the occasional outrages and riots will be incidental, either way we seem likely to face a similar fate as Israel. It's hard to see how Africa and India will fare better. America will be the last hold-out of Western society. I hope you guys are ready for a second European emigration. This time we're all coming over...
Posted by: Animus at June 1, 2006 1:03 AM
"If however you are shocked at the powerful nature of those who attack you, and are more angry at the incompetent nature of those who are currently supposed to be defending you then fund us, or join us. Together we can protect men like Inayat from the most powerful enemies Muslims have faced in a thousand years."
Commentary: This is a pro forma (fill in the blank) MPACUK membership drive letter, no more, no less. It uses a variation of the "Zionist Conspiracy Theory" to play on the fears of its target audience. It is crude but effective.
at June 1, 2006 1:29 AM
Does a Zionist Machine run on E85 or fuel cell?
How many miles per gallon?
Can it make a perfect margarita?
Get my BDU's huggably soft?
Record my favorite shows, even when I'm not home?
Paint my house?
Zero my scope at 500 meters?
Making mohammedans look bad is childs play. They do it themselves all the time.
Posted by: Eisenhund at June 1, 2006 1:33 AM
Israel is screwed from the git go. I am not an over religious man but this thing that is unfolding seems real close to what the Bible predicts? And if you read and understand the Bible you should know that there is no limit to what the chosen people will stoop to. It always takes a Righteous Warrior to bail them out!
Posted by: tgusa at June 1, 2006 1:36 AM
patriot4 said
These people whine more than my little girl
Yeah, but I bet they're not as cute and cuddly, or as smart.
Posted by: special_guest at June 1, 2006 1:53 AM
MPACUK said
They target organisations, then isolate individuals within those organisations and then use all their powers in a sustained co-ordinated attack to smash the person and destroy them.
Wow, we do all that? Sounds like we really got our act together. A high five to everyone, nice job.
Posted by: special_guest at June 1, 2006 1:56 AM
special_guest
http://www.starwars.com/
May the FORCE be with us!
at June 1, 2006 2:14 AM
The Muslim hatred and fear of Jews is metaphysical, framed by a Gnostic mythology and cosmology (the Gnostics were notorious anti-Israelites). In fact, I would say that most of the feelings and thoughts of Muslims is framed by their Gnostic mythology and cosmology. The existential, psychological and sociological process of demythologization cannot occur in the Muslim world as it can occur, and has been occurring, in the West, because the Islamic mythology is divine and immutable, and any rejection or deconstruction (= rejection to the Muslim) of its literal truth is treason and damnation for the Muslim. The Islamic world is confronting and interpenetrating a vastly superior civilization, and the mature demythologization that is one quality of that vastly superior civilization is causing a profound psychic and social disturbance in Islam: the Muslim in the depths of his mind and soul intuits the rapid breakdown of the Islamic mythology -- a breakdown that will occur either by implosion or explosion (or a pattern of both), and will happen at an abnormally high velocity.
at June 1, 2006 2:16 AM
I believe their hatred is not fixable for at least 3 generations and that’s if you stopped today! And still I don’t think so. I believe that the Nazis got some of their ideas from, guess who...
Posted by: tgusa at June 1, 2006 2:24 AM
Of Course they know how to play the "victim"!!
After all they have had near 1400 years of watching probably HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of victims die in the name of Muhammad. In addition, almost all true "believers" have had at least one opportunity to saw a head off, be it sheep goat or kaf'r. So vast experience in the details of victimhood. In fact Islam is the art of creating victims and making yourself feel good about it: the ultimate "freehand" from God.
Does becoming a "snake oil" salesman become part of their training? Or is the centuries of lying to everyone, including each other, which gives them the effrontery to spread such bull effluent over the media. The incredibly eel-like way in which they twist almsot every event, natural or manmade, to suit their POV makes you truly wonder who their potential audience can be to believe such assinine dung.
If you just assume for one second that they actually do believe this garbage( and remember they also believe in the Koran and 300 foot camel) then they must be a little cocksure of themselves to be so convinced that it is just another Zionist plot and not an intelligent response to a death threat for a kaf'r who knows them for what they truly are. No wonder the Nazis were so imppressed with their ability to smear so little effluent over such vast areas.
If they were not so potentially lethal we could make a TV series called: "The islamic hour" where we do a Mondo Cane look at Islamic practices and behaviour around the world. From the Shi'ite head bashing with swords to the Al Jazeer beheadings to the odd stoning or amputation or hanging or muder, foreced conversion, slavery either literal or passport, etc. However no multinational TV company would have the testicles to look as closely at Islam as they do at Christianity.
I would like to see a few novels where the events are based upon TRUE islamic behaviour so that the masses can get some idea of the TRUTH about these truth devouring pondscum.
at June 1, 2006 2:41 AM
I used to report here quite a bit about the mad foamings of the bruvverz at MPACUK (and the occasional hijabette sisterz). I see that nothing has changed, or not for the better since my last visit.
Silvester - re the British constitution. While we do not have a written constitution in the form of, for example, the United States of America, we do have an unwritten constitution which is drawn from a variety of sources. These sources include Acts of Parliament, judicial decisions, Canon Law, custom and policy.
There are reasons why I think it works well although I know it worrys a lot of Americans. I won't say more here, but I can be contacted via somewhere else
:-)
at June 1, 2006 3:19 AM
In the middle east, they want to root out the Jews. In the Indian state of Kashmir, they say that they are not Indians, they are Kashmiri. They have been creating muslim states out of other cultures' lands since their inception. They got pak, afgha, and bangladesh from India. Now they want Kashmir. And the world watches on. Afraid to act, for acting means genocide. They survive on our compassion, when they themselves don't have any.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 1, 2006 3:24 AM
Television,
I know this a bit O.T. for the thread, but what do you mean by "gnostic" here. Small "g" or large one?
Are you saying simply that Muslims are fixated with the idea of "knowledge", knowledge as a means of salvation? Or are you saying that The Koran draws on Gnostic texts, and so there is some direct historical connection with Gnosticism there, and with that way of thinking? Or is there some more complex meaning here out of Voegelin or something?
Posted by: Yojimbo at June 1, 2006 4:06 AM
"If however you are shocked at the powerful nature of those who attack you, and are more angry at the incompetent nature of those who are currently supposed to be defending you then fund us, or join us."
NO - don't send your money to MPACUK, send it to me at MADSHIT (Muslims Against Dhimmis Saying Hateful anti-Islamic Things).
Why are these people so stupid?, do they take lessons in stupidity?
Posted by: Ozi_bloke at June 1, 2006 4:22 AM
I wish someone would let me know where this "Zionist machine" is that the Islamists are talking about.
Doesn't anyone find it funny that they can't see Charles never accused Inayat Bunglawala of anything, except posting from Sweden AND London?
But the overly paranoid Islamists think that he did, and on that bases, have fabricated the rest of their story... as is the case with 99% of their rants.
Posted by: Jerusalem Posts at June 1, 2006 4:43 AM
"the most powerful enemies Muslims have faced in a thousand years"
Mohammedans, always the victims.
Just saw a preview of a coming show on Australian TV about the poor, poor muslims and how they are portrayed sooooo badly by the evil Jooooo cotrolled media and treated soooo badly by the racist Aussies.
Plenty of victim female Mohammedans crying their eyes out.
Bloody Islam, what a total waste of space and oxygen.
Still, this is very funny...hahahaha.
Bunglawala should have kept his tinfoil hat on and avoided this display of Zionist wizardry.
at June 1, 2006 4:55 AM
"Moderate Muslims" at MPACUK rage, froth about Zionism---
Israel is the anti-Dhemmi state. It just ain't right for Jews to walk proud in Dar-Al-Islam-in the lands conquered by Islam. They should act like they used in Yemen, Iraq, Morocco, etc.
They want to sing the Mick Jagger tune "Under my thum" to new lyrics...
Under my thumb
The Dhimmi who made Islam a clown
Under my thumb
The Dhimmi who once pushed me around
It's down to me
The difference in the clothes they wear
Down to me, the change has come,
The Dhimmis are under my thumb
Ain't it the truth babe?
Under my thumb
The squirmin' dog who's just had their day
Under my thumb
A Dhimmi who has just changed her ways
It's down to me, yes it is
The way she does just what she's told
Down to me, the change has come
She's under my thumb
Ah, ah, say it's alright
Under my thumb
A siamese cat of a girl
Under my thumb
She's the sweetest, hmmm, pet in the world
at June 1, 2006 6:02 AM
"The anti-Dhimmi State is under our thumb...
Posted by: Frank at June 1, 2006 6:03 AM
Next is a song sung by Frank....
Dhimmis being right what chances
Wondring in the night
What were the chances wed be
through before the night was through.
Mullahs in the night, the looney people
dreaming of Bombing Dhimmis in the night....
nuke, nuke, nuke the Dhimmis in the night...
at June 1, 2006 6:11 AM
All I want to know is how's the pay at the Zionist blogs? Maybe I'm in the wrong line of work. Posted by: dennisw at May 31, 2006 10:14 PMDon't rush. I'm still waiting for my pound of flesh in backpay. Posted by: Shy Guy
at June 1, 2006 6:23 AM
'Michael Moore is Irish Catholic, not Jewish.'
Good Lord. An insult to Irish and Catholics. And an insult to Jews (had it been true).
I talk to people in the UK constantly (mind you, at Deviantart we are speaking of artsy types in their teens and 20s, mostly), and they just can't seem to see anything wrong with the muslims in their midst. I think I give up about every third week, trying to get thru to them. This, too, shall be ignored... :(
Posted by: Gary at June 1, 2006 6:28 AM
Michael Moore is an insult to humanity.'Michael Moore is Irish Catholic, not Jewish.'Good Lord. An insult to Irish and Catholics. And an insult to Jews (had it been true).
Keep it simple.
Posted by: Shy Guy at June 1, 2006 6:47 AM
What a bunch of jokers!
To say 'Zionist' a few times gives their words credibility. Otherwise they literally wouldn't have anything to say.
at June 1, 2006 7:03 AM
"No part time nut could watch every minute for any slip by a Muslim group as vigilantly as they do."
Honest people and groups needn't worry about making such 'slips'.
Posted by: PRCS at June 1, 2006 7:39 AM
Michael Moore is half-assed. He'll tell the tear-jerking part of an historical even, but sez nothing of that which counterposes his Marxist goals.
So the left globe of his giant pimply ass is the part on which he sits; the right of his ass is for the pucker, a fetid feeding trough for the brown-nosed sucker.
Can you say gullible college student? (I apologize for the redundancy here.)
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at June 1, 2006 8:02 AM
Interesting how this hysterical rhetoric parallels Hillary's "vast right wing conspiracy" paranoia.
Posted by: infidel4life at June 1, 2006 8:27 AM
Well, as long as they're moderates, I mean after all Islam is a religion of peace, right?
Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at June 1, 2006 8:27 AM
Inayat Bunglawala appeared several times on British TV during the recent Danish cartoons uproar. He is the insidious wretch who has tried to make the British government turn Holocaust Day into 'Genocide Day' - i.e. a day devoted to Palestinian deaths, but strangely no mention for any commemoration of the 20th century's first major genocide, that of the Armenians at the hands of the Turks. When the 'Muslim Lobby' (a growing phenomenon in Britain) successfully stage-managed the sacking of a British journalist/TV show host called Robert Kilroy Silk about three years ago for having written a wholly accurate article critical of Islam (the only mistakes he made were in confusing here and there whether he was referring to all Muslims or just to Arabs). I mention this because Muslim organisations (or what purport to be 'organisations' but in reality are really paper outfits) were crowing like roosters that at last the 'Muslim Lobby' was begining to overshadow the 'Jewish Lobby' and in time would 'drown' it out. Bunglawla has a habit of pretending that somehow and from somewhere he has the authority to insouciantly inform the British kafir public as to what we can or can't watch on TV/read in the newspapers/read in books, etc. One of his key reference concepts is "what is acceptable to Muslims". However, I find it very difficult to keep a straight face when the man is pontificating on TV because he bears an extraordinary resemblance to a British comedy film actor, the late Charles Hawtrey, who appeared in many of the famous 'Carry On' movies. Americans are unlikely to have seen these movies, but British bloggers will I hope spot the lookalike similarity.
Posted by: moris2 at June 1, 2006 9:32 AM
Silvester,
Whilst agreeing with a lot of what you say I wish you hadn't trotted out that hoary old myth about the British being 'subjects' not 'citizens'. That was changed many years ago (am trying to find the URL at .gov.uk) to bring our laws into line with modern thinking and to conform with EU thinking on the issue. Brits are citizens owing loyalty to the Crown (as the symbol of our elected government). We haven't been subjects for many years.
Dominic.
Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at June 1, 2006 9:53 AM
Inayat Bunglawala reminds me of Dicken's David Copperfield unctuous-hypocrite character Uriah Heep. He wears a mask of humility to hide his hate and trechery, but like Uriah Heep this fraud will one day be found out and his contempt for Dhimmis unmasked.
Meet Uriah Heep-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2005/08/21/nbung21.jpg
Posted by: Frank at June 1, 2006 10:32 AM
This lonesome little doggy in 29 Palms wants to know why his ZOG dividend check is late AGAIN. My Zionist puppet masters must be preoccupied with their machinations against poor Mr. Bummhole-wa'allah in England.
Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at June 1, 2006 10:40 AM
Silvester,
For citizenship look at British Nationality Act 1948 Chapter 56 at
http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm
Scroll down to Para. 12.1.
Also see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law
and check out the Home Office website for citizenship requirements and legalities.
What's more, our passports also admit we are citizens. Anything else would be illegal under the various treaties we've signed - particularly human right's treaties and EU treaties.
I hope that's killed the myth once and for all.
Dominic.
Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at June 1, 2006 11:07 AM
Yojimbo,
I mean that Islam is a Gnostic religion, capital G. It's just a theory of mine, I've never seen a scholarly book or article that explores this. The traditional consensus among historians of religion is that Gnostic ideas petered out by the time orthodox Christianity became cohesive and socipolitically dominant in the pre-medieval West and East (East "Europe", that is), and Gnostic ideas only survived as underground heretical movements that were continually persecuted by the mainstream Churches. (The philosopher of history Eric Voegelin, however, did argue that Gnostic strands of thought that had incubated in the West throughout the Middle Ages became virulent again in modern time in the form of Utopian movements, Marxism, and National Socialism, as well as even certain aspects of modern Science.)
I maintain that, in fact, Gnosticism not only did survive in a major way, but in a spectacularly successful and for centuries imperialistically expansive way: Islam. It is known that in the few centuries after Christ and before Mohammed, Gnostic ideas and groups (mostly Gnostic Christian variants) were quite common throughout Asia Minor, and the Christianity which Mohammed and Arabs before him encountered was likely to have been a Gnostic heretical variety or varieties.
at June 1, 2006 2:11 PM
Television,
I like that theory. We shouldn't also forget that there are many Gnostic elements in the Qur'an itself such as Jesus speaking from the cradle, Jesus giving life to clay birds, and the denial of the crucifixion. Besides Jesus, there are some Gnostic elements to the mythologized story of Muhammad that appear in some ahadith and the extra-quaranic material found in South Asia. I remember Muir writing about this, about a story how Muhammad was preexistant and how it took something like 10 000 years before he manifested himself in human form. Also, Sufism is Gnostic movement as well.
Posted by: igor at June 1, 2006 2:40 PM
igor,
It's not merely the denial of the crucifixion in Islam that is Gnostic, it is the idea that God put a "double" in place of Jesus on the cross to deceive people. This is so startlingly similar to early pre-Mohammedan Gnostic docetism, it baffles me why Western scholars have not included Islam in their studies of the history of Gnostic streams of thought, let alone proferred the theory that Islam is a form of Gnostic heresy (as defined against the measure of orthodox Christianity).
This fact in Islamic texts (and the others you pointed out) obviously has been easily available to Western scholars for centuries: they have no excuse, except that they have inherited the dominant Western spell that puts Islam under an aura of venerable authenticity.
Posted by: Television at June 1, 2006 4:42 PM
Had a quick Google but couldn't find any links to back this up - so I bow to any one else's superior knowledge... but I have read that at the time of Jesus there were many claiming to be the Christ. The Jews were living under bondage and within a period of around 200 years there more than 20 'christs' claiming to be their saviour, the messiah, all of whom had some degree of influence. It was their followers who formed the bulk of the original Gnostic sects. One of these was called "Isa" - that is to say Isa and Jesus were not the same person, as claimed by Islam. As alluded to by Television above, the last Isa christians were wiped out during the Inquisition.
If correct, this explains most of the iconsistancies between Isa and Jesus. Not least the total disparity between the God of redemption and the lord of vengeance. {spit}
at June 1, 2006 4:47 PM
Television,
You may or may not be interested to know that the first thing I ever wrote about Islam was a college paper in 1981 or 1982 or thereabouts, about how Gnostic Gospels influenced Qur'an 4:157's view of the Crucifixion.
The paper centered on the figure of "Thomas, called The Twin" (John 21:2), who is the protagonist of a lot of Gnostic material, in which he is known as Didymus [i.e., Twin] Judas Thomas. They usually refer to him as Judas also, and identify him as the twin of Jesus. And of course they deny the Crucifixion, and say that someone who looked like Jesus was on the Cross in his place. I contended that since Muslim tradition identifies that person with Judas, they were likely drawing on Gnostic material referring to Judas Thomas as the twin of Jesus, but misidentifying him with Judas Iscariot and placing him on the Cross.
I wish I still had that paper.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
at June 1, 2006 4:52 PM
This is a fine piece of satire.
The writer of that MPACUK article is a comedy genius!
Posted by: TAoL at June 1, 2006 5:02 PM
To further confuse a gnostic or someone with an inaccurate recollection of the gospels Jesus did have brothers, one of whom was called Judas. Matthew 13.56, Mark 6.3.
Thomas was there when Christ appeared to the disciples, famously only believing once he had seen the marks on his hands. A passage that I believe gives hope for all non believers, in the longest run.
But I digress...
at June 1, 2006 5:39 PM
Robert, very interesting. I wouldn't doubt there are a few scholarly articles out there that explore aspects of this, but they are probably buried in obscure scholarly journals that nobody but a small number of specialists has read. There should be much more.
Posted by: Television at June 1, 2006 6:20 PM
"The paper centered on the figure of "Thomas, called The Twin" (John 21:2), who is the protagonist of a lot of Gnostic material, in which he is known as Didymus [i.e., Twin] Judas Thomas."
I assume you're referring to The Gospel of Thomas?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_thomas
which was found in Nag Hammadi in 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Nag_Hammadi
It is rather interesting that the GOT consists of 114 sayings attributed to Jesus, same as the number of surahs in the Koran. But the GOT itself reads much more like Zen or something New Age (it is my understanding that gnosticism is a primary influence on new age "spirituality"). I certainly see what Sufism has in common with gnosticism but as far as I can tell, orthodox Islam is about as far from the spirit of gnosticism as you can get (although it wouldn't surprise me if Muhammad or whoever actually wrote the Koran picked up some of its more literalist teachings about the historical Jesus while otherwise missing the more subtle point entirely).
(just throwing that out there and in way over my head. I only learned about the GOT recently and found it rather fascinating)
Posted by: Caroline at June 1, 2006 9:53 PM
Caroline,
It is many years ago now, but I don't think so. I think most of the material actually about Didymus Judas Thomas is in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, if I recall correctly, which is not the same thing as the Gospel of Thomas.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
at June 1, 2006 9:55 PM
Mr Spencer - thanks for clarifying that. I hadn't heard of the Infancy Gospel of Thomas before but did a bit of googling and I see they are totally different things, though apparently often confused (presumably because they share the name Didymus Judas Thomas).
Infancy Gospel of Thomas:
http://www.misericordia.edu/users/davies/religion/InfancyT.htm
Gospel of Thomas:
http://www.misericordia.edu/users/davies/thomas/Trans.htm
Posted by: Caroline at June 1, 2006 11:13 PM
"Jesus did have brothers, one of whom was called Judas. Matthew 13.56, Mark 6.3."
- posted above
The Roman Catholic position is that Mary remained a virgin her entire life. The Greek word "adelphos" can mean either "brother" or "close relative."
The Bible is talking about Jesus' cousins, not brothers.
For an analysis one can go here,
http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/02ws/ws021121.htm
or here,
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a27.htm
Too often, Christ's enemies try to make him out to be merely human, as in "The Da Vinci Code".
Here, they try to besmirch his mother Mary and intimate that Christ is merely a man with brothers, and that his mother Mary either was not the spouse of the Holy Spirit, or perhaps not only the spouse of the Holy Spirit but Joseph also.
at June 2, 2006 10:11 AM
Mike, Mary could have given miraculously virgin birth to Jesus, and then later have given birth naturally to children that became Jesus' siblings. I don't see why this should detract from Mary's religious status.
Posted by: Television at June 2, 2006 1:52 PM
Television,
Think of it his way.
Mary, as the spouse of the Holy Spirit, conceived miraculously through hypostatic union - an incredibly holy and singular occurence as we are taught that Jesus is the only Son of God.
To believe that Mary, who remained a virgin through the entire process, could then settle down with Joseph and raise a "normal" family is blasphemous, given the absolute perfection and holiness of this event.
Roman Catholic doctrine states Mary had one spouse...the Holy Spirit, Joseph was more a guardian figure.
Posted by: Mike_W at June 2, 2006 5:03 PM
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