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As we saw with the Muhammad Al-Dura affair and many other incidents, the Palestinian propaganda machine is sophisticated -- and abetted by the Leftist dhimmi Western media.
"Hamas Murders Children in Palestine, Blames Israel," from the Israel News Agency, with thanks to Andrew Bostom:
Jerusalem-----June 11.......An Israel Defense Forces intelligence officer has confirmed that the explosion that killed eight Palestinians on Friday, was caused by a stockpile of Hamas explosives."Shortly after we stopped defensive firing at Hamas rocket launch pads which were deployed behind Palestinian human shields, members of Hamas scrambled to fire more rockets at our positions," said Col. M. "We have eyes on every meter of Gaza, from the sky, from the ground and from the sea. One of their rocket tripods collapsed inadvertently setting off an explosion of a stockpile of Qassam rockets. The Palestinians killed their own children. And this was not the first time."
Hamas terrorists fired rockets and mortar bombs from a crowded Gaza beach at southern Israel. Some of the rockets fell near the Israel city of Ashkelon. Some 17 rockets were fired between Saturday and Sunday morning. A man at a school in the Israel town of Sderot was wounded, Israel officials said.
Israel Maj.-Gen. Yoav Galant said today that the Israel Defense Forces has additional evidence that it wasn't Israel artillery that hit the beach in Gaza. Galant, who commands Israel's southern command, said Israel stopped firing 15 minutes before the explosion. It's all on secure videotape from both sides of the conflict. Israel Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he was sorry about the deaths, which included three children.
Posted by Robert at June 11, 2006 5:39 PM
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It's kind of frustrating but on this site and others like it, the Left is accused of caving into Islam,
However on sites like the following you will find comments such as Leftists, Jewish nationalists, Judeo-Christian Zionists have all sold-out America for Israel
The antisemites accuse the left of being Zionist and selling out to Israel, and the "right" accuses the left of selling out to the Islamofascists.
And FYI, the poster who made this comment Here is an "antisemitic", Islamophilic, Roman Catholic, who likes to throw around accusations of hating Christianity and Christ (except to the Muslims that is).
Posted by: Nariz
at June 11, 2006 6:16 PM
Well then, I'll expect Hamas to apologize as forthrightly as Israel did when they thought it was their fault...
... right around the time the Browns win a Superbowl.
Posted by: Shinoliite
at June 11, 2006 6:29 PM
I hope the NYT devotes as much space above the fold to their clarification as they did to the photo of the alleged errant shell.
Posted by: AnneCrockett
at June 11, 2006 6:56 PM
Gee been here before...Islam the lie that keeps on giving.......That same day, you could hear breathless reports of the supposed Israeli atrocities in Jenin being spread by Palestinian sources on NPR, CNN, and elsewhere. Typical was the hysteria of Nasser al-Kidwa, the Palestinian representative to the United Nations, on CNN: "There's almost a massacre now taking place in Jenin http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/218vnicq.asp
Posted by: storagemanager
at June 11, 2006 7:11 PM
Israel is already accused and condemned, regardless!
Just like the "Al Doura" affair, just like "Haditha"- is it important to accuse and expose the left-wing-nut media, the Arab reporters that have infiltrated every paper, every TV-channel to spin the anti-Israel propaganda?
I think it is... perhaps more than ever!!!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at June 11, 2006 7:20 PM
Hmmmm, same event, two sources: one muslim one Israeli, who to believe? That problem took longer to type than to solve.
Posted by: Ronin
at June 11, 2006 7:21 PM
Sounds like Muhammed Duras redux. They could care less about their kids, especially if their deaths can get the hordes ginned up and the bleeding hearts bleeting!
Posted by: Dumbo
at June 11, 2006 7:48 PM
But kill 2 million people in the Sudan is okay cause that was not on the TV news
Posted by: Dumbo
at June 11, 2006 7:49 PM
Tabari VII:133
Ishaq:387 “When Muhammad saw Hamzah he said, ‘If Allah gives me victory over the Quraysh at any time, I shall mutilate thirty of their men!’ When the Muslims saw the rage of the Prophet they said, ‘By Allah, if we are victorious over them, we shall mutilate them in a way which no Arab has ever mutilated anybody.” .........THEY SEEM TO BE LEARNING MO...YOU WOULD PROUD...MO HOW COME YOU NEVER TOLD THEM ABOUT EZEKIEL 32?
at June 11, 2006 7:57 PM
this is a really disfunctional society when they have no regard for even their own children, it really mades angry that the liberal biased media lets them get away with murder!
Posted by: Lulu
at June 11, 2006 8:00 PM
Note to self....proof read...then post....proof read then post....proof read then post....huh?
at June 11, 2006 8:01 PM
"Well then, I'll expect Hamas to apologize as forthrightly as Israel did when they thought it was their fault...
... right around the time the Browns win a Superbowl." Posted by: Shinoliite
You could substitute the Browns for the Chargers and make the same point.
How long will authorities alow these "rush to judgments" by the media occur? This is getting ridiculous!!!
Posted by: McSeamus
at June 11, 2006 8:15 PM
I'm really angry that the news (as found on google) is still reporting that Hamas has broken a 15 month cease fire over this event.
A. They never cease fired.
B. Israel didn't do it.
How thick are these Left Wing reporters, or they actually anti semitic?
at June 11, 2006 8:26 PM
You know weeks after 9-11 , my wife and I watched the news....of wives calling husbands and telling them they were about to die....or husbands calling from flight 93....sons calling mothers from the towers saying I love you mom..but I am gona die....for going to work...for taking a trip....for just being....I needed to know why....I needed to learn...some way to fight... Thats why I post...why I study....why I think Islam is not from GOD.
at June 11, 2006 8:27 PM
This story was another crass "Palestinian" hoax, another successful use of the media to blame Israel for murders that the "Palestinians" themselves carried out. And the Leftist dhimmi Western media fell for the "Palestinian" lies:
Israeli forces attacked suspected rocket launching sites in the northern Gaza Strip on Friday, and one artillery barrage killed seven Palestinian civilians, including three children, at a family picnic at the beach.
...an explosion blamed on Israeli artillery fire killed eight Palestinian beachgoers. Hamas has largely honored the February 2005 cease-fire...
Hamas fired Kassam rockets into Israel Saturday in retaliation for recent strikes on Gaza, including one that killed seven civilians on a beach.
Officials say Israeli shelling of a beach on the Mediterranean coast of the Gaza Strip killed at least seven Palestinians at a picnic, including three children.Posted by: special_guest
at June 11, 2006 8:46 PM
Dumbo:
So true. The Palestinian "problem" is being kept alive very much with the help of the media and their pictures. Darfur is too distant and too complicated (I don't mean to be cynical, but I suspect the lack of good hotels with showers and bars plays a part in the situation). In Darfur it's no longer the evil Zionists versus the opressed Palestinians. Darfur is a sort of racist Ground Zero: Supremacist Muslim Arabs against Black Muslims.
Darfur is the denial of every pious tenet of multiculturalist Europe. Rwanda could be explained away as a tribal clash of huge proportions. Darfur can't.
at June 11, 2006 8:59 PM
Robert says: "As we saw with the Muhammad Al-Dura affair and many other incidents, the Palestinian propaganda machine is sophisticated -- and abetted by the Leftist dhimmi Western media."
The Leftist Western media is so intent on smearing America and Israel in combat situations, that the enemy propaganda machine doesn't even need to be "sophisticated" anymore. Look what just happened in the last 24 hours: One, just one, Iraqi claims that U.S. troops beat al-Zarqawi to death (why would they bother?). Instantly that claim got picked up and turned into instant headlines in Western news stories, starting with NBC and spreading outward. Only if you read the whole article would you find a sentence buried down deep that admitted that this Iraqi's claims could not be independently verified.
But by then the damage was done. Next, the Arab news media, including that of Saudi Arabia, inflated the story to claim that several eyewitnesses saw Zarqawi being beaten. And so in just 24 hours, the Western news media has succeeded in morphing al-Zarqawi from terrorist into victim, and morphing our troops from heroes who punished a mass murderer into sadists. It wouldn't surprise me to see these stories of al-Zarqawi being beaten provoking riots all across the Muslim world. That's tomorrow. Watch and see.
There was a time when they wouldn't even publish a story if they couldn't verify it through at least two independent sources. Not any more. They've sunk to the level of the National Enquirer and the Weekly World News, in their zeal to punish America for the Iraq War and in their zeal to punish Israel for having actually won the 1967 War.
at June 11, 2006 8:59 PM
Pallywood!
at June 11, 2006 8:59 PM
"There was a time when they wouldn't even publish a story if they couldn't verify it through at least two independent sources. Not any more. They've sunk to the level of the National Enquirer and the Weekly World News, in their zeal to punish America for the Iraq War and in their zeal to punish Israel for having actually won the 1967 War." Posted by: Steven L.
Exactly. With the internet, cell phones, the blogosphere, and my secret device that I wear on my wrist, we have access at the same time to the much of information that the liberal reporters have. (Somehow we can sort out the bs) So now they now have to make stories up, to get a "leg up on us." We need to stay on top of them, and keep exposing the fabrications they call stories.
Posted by: McSeamus
at June 11, 2006 9:23 PM
Soragemanager wrote: "You know weeks after 9-11 , my wife and I watched the news....of wives calling husbands and telling them they were about to die....or husbands calling from flight 93....sons calling mothers from the towers saying I love you mom..but I am gona die....for going to work...for taking a trip....for just being....I needed to know why....I needed to learn...some way to fight... Thats why I post...why I study....why I think Islam is not from GOD."
9-11 affected me deeply -I have no more tears for another dead, dying, or suffering Muslim whether man, woman, or child. It is as if I have become innoculated against compassion.
Posted by: Pelayo
at June 11, 2006 9:24 PM
When Israeli civilians are deliberately targeted by Palestinian terrorists, they call this "legitimate defence". But when Palestinian civilians are either cynically manouevered into harm's way by their own, or are caught up in a genuine accident, the Palestinians cry foul and milk the situation for every ounce of world sympathy they can get.
I feel so sorry for Israel, and have nothing but the highest contempt for the anti-semitic leftwing dhimmis who enthusiastically support the Arab siege of Israel.
As a non-Jew and a non-Israeli, I say "Viva Israel".
Posted by: The Northumbrian
at June 11, 2006 9:28 PM
I care about all human beings....its evil I hate...Islam fits that bill.....But I understand Pelayo...The way they kill and rape....laugh while they cut off limbs....sure makes one want to fight and defeat this evil called Islam...but we fight the best we can....Info on Islam...To all who will hear.
Posted by: storagemanager
at June 11, 2006 9:32 PM
This should be passed along to every media outlet that has reported on the issue. Posters here should be pressuring media outlets to report on this. I have just had a discussion with the newsdesk at TV ONE in Auckland, who said they were unaware of this report. They indicated they would investigate further (however, they indicated they were sceptical of any reports coming from the IDF). Yet, they had no difficulty reporting that the IDF killed seven Palestinians based on reports from the Hamas led PA.
Posted by: Haidon
at June 11, 2006 9:32 PM
Shinoliite, let's not get insulting now. As a hard-core Browns fan, I resemble that remark and I do expect the Dawgs will eventually win the Super Bowl--whereas I do not ever expect basic decency from the dogs of Hamas. I therefore reject your comparison and ask you to observe the ordinary description of the axis of evil, which looks like this:
Steelers, Yankees, Hamas--in that order.
What grieves me most is that I thought that finally I'd found a blog where I was among friends. I suppose next someone will be denigrating the Indians and I'll be off into the blogosphere again, looking for somewhere to land.
Oy.
Posted by: Haid Dasalami
at June 11, 2006 9:33 PM
Let's understand something. I have never been to Cleveland OH, nor do I know anyone from Cleveland, although I have been to Cleveland, Tennessee. The real Browns are in Baltimore. The Titans are really the Oilers.
Posted by: Pelayo
at June 11, 2006 9:39 PM
Shhh! I'm tempting fate!
The Baltimore Ravens are apostates.
"If any franchise owner changes his town, make faces at him unrelentingly." -- Shinoliite (pbuh)
Now, per my original statement, even if the Browns win next January/February, that's still seven months in which we probably won't be hearing an apology from Hamas. Probably longer, both for Cleveland *sigh* and Hamas. ;)
at June 11, 2006 9:49 PM
"If any franchise owner changes his town, make faces at him unrelentingly." -- Shinoliite (pbuh)
LOL.
Posted by: Haid Dasalami
at June 11, 2006 10:06 PM
BBC has already formulated the Gift from Gitmo twice, complete with their trademark sneer quotes.
Guantanamo suicides a 'PR move'
&
Guantanamo suicides 'acts of war'
I wrote and suggested this title:
Muslims ring bell, BBC Salivates
The nice thing about this title is that they could save a lot of money on copy editors sitting around and cooking up new ways to label the same old snuff stories.
Posted by: jsla
at June 11, 2006 10:08 PM
The BBC have outsourced their news output to Al Jazeera... so don't be surprised. The BBC is the enemy.
Posted by: disillusioned_german
at June 11, 2006 10:25 PM
storagemanager yes l need to proof more, but usually
l am in a hurry, at work, and can only stay on the computer for short spurts, and so on and off quickly. but l think you got the jest of my post lol
at June 11, 2006 10:57 PM
Lulu I talking to myself....my post are full of mistakes..not you..lol
Posted by: storagemanager
at June 11, 2006 10:59 PM
"When Israeli civilians are deliberately targeted by Palestinian terrorists, they call this "legitimate defence". But when Palestinian civilians are either cynically manouevered into harm's way by their own, or are caught up in a genuine accident, the Palestinians cry foul and milk the situation for every ounce of world sympathy they can get" The Northumbian
How right you are. As always, the educated get to play with words, deliberately shading statements, subtlely twisting definitions, omitting the facts which could change opinion, all in a usually effective ploy to fool the ignorant masses. And I don't say that to be mean to the masses, just that most people don't devote enough time, with enough cynisism, to the news, especially world events (witness the number of high school grads who recently coundn't find Lousiana on a map).
Those we call the Left wing mass media are all college educated. They get to frame the debate on ANY topic, from context, to more importantly, defining the terms of an issue, to make one side wrong before the facts even emerge ("nuclear option")
I sit in front of my TV, watching the supposedly right wing FOX news network, and I actually expect at time to see Rod Serling come on with the intro to Twilight zone.
Again, thanks to JihadWatch, and like minded sites that tell it like it IS, not how it's portrayed
Posted by: OneEyedJack
at June 11, 2006 11:04 PM
I was upset when I saw the girl in the video screaming as she looked for her father. But, then I remembered the google video called Pallywood. So scepticism required a closer second look. How is it that the video did not look like a 'home video' but instead like a professional video? How was the camera operator right there to video the event? So soon, in fact that the little girl had not even gotten up yet to look for her father? Why was no one consoling her but letting her run screaming? Had it taken a while for her to get up or was the camera operator there to film something else, like a rocket being sent into Israel for a propoganda film? Why don't the media ask these questions?
storemanager~
FYI - the Tabari quotes and I believe also the Ishaq quotes from the ahadiths are not considered the most authentic by muslims and therefore not really valid (undesputable) in the eyes of most muslims - that is per our muslim lurker Mohideen. I know that they are real hadiths but the level of the hadiths acceptance varies and the ones considered most reliable are Bukhari and Muslim. You can check with Mr. Spencer to be sure on that since I am not an expert.
I don't know why Tabari is not considered reliable since he spendt his life collecting the stories and researched them thoroughly from what I have read. Maybe because they contain the most vicious stories and they don't want to believe them?
Posted by: Borg
at June 11, 2006 11:09 PM
Finkelstein in one word:
H O P E L E S S!!
PC deprived him of his humanity...
Is his (imaginary) ivory tower-cocoon going to protect him?
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at June 11, 2006 11:10 PM
Borg....I shall study more...thank you
Posted by: storagemanager
at June 11, 2006 11:15 PM
Check this out:
What are these anti-Israel (bigots) protesters going to do when the Pallywood charade bites them in the ass?
Any chance of an apology, any chance of them hanging their heads in shame and vanishing in the ozone?
(Just wishful thinking...!)
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at June 11, 2006 11:18 PM
This case is different in one respect to the Mohamed al-Dura affair. We now know what to look for, thanks to sites like The Second Draft, and to Nidra Poller, and remembering, plain and simple. How many years after al Dura did the truth finally come out?...and it is still coming out. Now compare: How many hours for the Texas Guard memos to be shown as the fakes that they were? How many MINUTES did it take for Jesse MacBeth to get reamed by real Army Rangers and Special Ops guys? Al Dura happened in 2000. Reports began to surface many months afterwards, but a thorough investigation took several years. The details were exhaustive in Poller's report.
Look at this, though. Days. Days is all it is taking to show this sham for what it is. In a war like this, images are everything. The quicker we can debunk the propagandists and turn their own weapons on them, the less likely their disinformation will be effective in the future.
at June 11, 2006 11:28 PM
The reason Gaza and the WestBank are so 'cool' to the leftists and the socialists and the anarchists is that they can hop into Gaza/WB and relish in the chaos and grotequeness of the Pal's "culture", then zip across the border into Israel for some first world R&R and propaganda while they spit at their hosts, the 'occupiers.' There is no 'first world' within a thousand miles of Sudan.
Posted by: John Sobieski
at June 11, 2006 11:49 PM
Sad, but true, John.
Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah
at June 12, 2006 12:05 AM
Using forensic evidence to try and trace the source of the bullets themselves would be complicated by the fact that the Israeli Government authorized the transfer of thousands of guns to the Palestinians, for use by the Palestinian Police force. “We have no problems with weaponry since we have enough guns that were given to us by Israel,” stated Abed el-Qader, Senior Tanzim Leader on March 8, 2001."
For me, it's absurd to give any aid to the Palestinians, but at least I can understand it. I will never understand the logic behind Israel giving weapons to the Palestinians.
at June 12, 2006 12:30 AM
Why did I already know this?
Let's see, explosives are misdirected and accidently kill group on beach. Either it is the Israeli's who have some of the most sophisticated technical equipment in the world or it is the Palestinians who play 'let's make bomb's in our garage'.
This is really a hard question...
Posted by: Kay
at June 12, 2006 2:04 AM
Psychology of the Musulman, Andre Servier
http://musulmanbook.blogspot.com/
Posted by: kafir citizen
at June 12, 2006 2:12 AM
The account domain for secondraft.org has been suspended.
I don't know why.
Posted by: Anthony
at June 12, 2006 3:35 AM
It really gives you some insight into the twisted and devious corridors within the Muslim mind to know just how afraid of the truth they have to be to lie so much. It is not all just trying to fool western media. Mnay of them do beleive in their own lies. I suppose that as they also believe in all of Muhammad's lies it isn't surprising.
Is it just myself who has the impression that the whole edifice of Islamic truth is one dreadfully corrupt construct: rotten to the core and whose foundations are so potentially unstable that no building inspector is allowed to think about it let alone inspect it and comment upon it?
I always thought that the rigidity of Islamic thought was simply an example of fanatacism in action. But now I see it as a selfsealing layer to keep the whole construct free of truth leaks as light tends to erode rotten materials and allowing it to look in on islam may bring it all down.
at June 12, 2006 3:53 AM
Anthony..Hi!! No doubt some Muslim has either pulled money strings or else, cried:"islamophobia" and some gutless businessman has succumbed.
Posted by: Zathras
at June 12, 2006 3:54 AM
Its all about the Jihad, stupid!
Nothing else matters, no dead women & children, no atrocity, no crime is too perverse, dead Pali-Arabs, who are "martyrs, who slay and are slain in the way of Allah-" are just the price they are willing to pay to establish the rule of Allah, the sharia...
Unbelievers are 'the vilest of creatures', they don't count...
Islam must dominate, at any cost...
The despised Jews must be killed and driven from their homeland, the infidels must be killed or forcibly converted 'until all religion belongs to Allah...'
Nothing else matters...
The only thing that matters to us stupid infidels is to UNDERSTAND what we are up against, so we can take the appropriate measures and actions to counter the Jihad. Full stop...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at June 12, 2006 5:13 AM
How often can the PLO/Hamas gang get away with these fake atrocity claims? To me, it's bizarre that anyone would go to that location [the beach near the former Jewish village of Dugit] for a picnic. It's often been a location of shooting both incoming and outgoing for some time now.
Sheik,
Unfortunately, I had the "moderate comments" turned on on my blog but did not know how to use it, till recently. Tried to send you an email at the address that you supplied. But the email came back. You could send me an updated email address.
Yours,
E
at June 12, 2006 7:25 AM
Eliyahu, the e-mail is good!
Please try again, I'm sure it works...!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at June 12, 2006 7:57 AM
kurtz:
Finklestein quite a scholar? Were you trying to be facetious there?
He's been fired by some of the institutions he has taught for, which does not often happen in academia. His Holocaust denial is an expression of a personality disorder that comes of being the child of a Holocaust survivor (his mother) who is so demented that she denies the extent of it, by asking who all these survivors are if there was a Holocaust. Given that a third of Europe's 12 million Jews survived, and virtually all of them fled after the war ended, to go and live in the US and Israel, you would be likely to find a good number of them in the Jewish communities in the US, Mrs. Finklestein, wouldn't you think?
Posted by: waterdragon52
at June 12, 2006 9:09 AM
Haaretz gives this scenario most credence. I only hope that version 3 or 2 will be confirmed and I cannot wait to the reactions of all those (including Al BBC) who rushed to condemn Israel.
Posted by: Polish infideless
at June 12, 2006 10:19 AM
Sorry - clicked Post too quickly - here is the link:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/725220.html
Posted by: Polish infideless
at June 12, 2006 10:19 AM
I've seen it a hundred times: hide behind women and children, hit someone then scream "victim," accuse one's victim of the very crimes of which one is guilty, and scream that the people you want to exterminate are commiting "genocide" themselves. There is a pattern here and only a moron or a duplicitious and ammoral opportunist would hide his eyes from it.
Posted by: DesertDawgN29
at June 12, 2006 10:51 AM
Golda Meir
(1898 - 1978)
Prime Minister of the State of Israel 1969-1974
"I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons."
And to paraphrase her most famous quote:
There will be peace in the middle east when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us (Jews).
She was a great woman and a great and tough leader, I wish we had more like her.
I could hardly sleep last night after seeing the picture of the dead 1 year old baby boy. But we must remember that the jihadists would murder our little ones without hesitation if they are given the chance.
Posted by: Carolyn2
at June 12, 2006 10:59 AM
from jsla's post above:
"Muslims ring bell, BBC Salivates
The nice thing about this title is that they could save a lot of money on copy editors sitting around and cooking up new ways to label the same old snuff stories."
So true, jsla, and something that we could have some fun with. I'll bet that some merry pranksters, posing as multiple 'news sources' from dar-al-islam, could elicit a conditioned response from the beeb that could even embarrass them (and they are almost embarrassment-proof).
Posted by: Infidel33
at June 12, 2006 11:09 AM
The photos of Abbas with the little girl who was "mourning" over the loss of her dad, always rings "staged" just like after the Al-Dura case or the Jenin massacre (of 1 when the guy jumped out of the coffin and broke his neck [divine intervention?]) there was Yassir Araputz in one photo shoot visiting the father of the murdered boy (by his own troops) or Sheikh Yassin (Araputz's dear colleague) also handing a Koran to the family of the murdered boy. Always staged.
Another great saying was from the former Ambassador to the UN who was the first in 1948 to ask for another country for the Arabs but was always denied by the Arabs (look up the UN records unless Koffi Annan had them purged) was "...that the Arabs (not the Palestinians as the term referred to non-Muslim Arabs from the year 32AD to 1964) never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
How True
Posted by: Hinda
at June 12, 2006 11:12 AM
"Palestinians were incensed by the deaths after seeing emotive pictures of young Huda Ghalia wailing over her father’s body. Her mother and siblings were also killed."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-2222281,00.html
Jihadwatch carried this story.
There were 35 Hindus killed. The last was a girl 4 years old. Upon hearing the sound of gunfire, she rushed to the village square, where it took place, saw her dead father, and knelt upon him weeping. The nearest jihadi called to her, and when she looked up, shot her in the chest with 17 AK - 47 bullets.
Posted by: arjun.sevak
at June 12, 2006 1:57 PM
"Israel Maj.-Gen. Yoav Galant said today that the Israel Defense Forces has additional evidence that it wasn't Israel artillery that hit the beach in Gaza. Galant, who commands Israel's southern command, said Israel stopped firing 15 minutes before the explosion. It's all on secure videotape from both sides of the conflict."
-- from the article above
This is one with Mohammed Dura, one with the stories in Iraq about the American soldiers "beating to death" Al-Zarqawi, or deliberately luring Iraqi children with candy so that they could be used as human shields, or any number of other crude atrocity stories.
There are atrocities aplenty in the long Arab siege -- the Lesser Jihad -- against Israel. They have been committed by the Arabs, including the PLO and not only Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and so on. The use of children, the use of mental defectives, the use of all kinds of helpless or easily manipulable creatures to become suicide bombers, or to test the responses of Israeli soldiers at checkpoints (just the other day a group of young boys were given phony guns and told to keep walking toward such a checkpoint -- if the Israelis had fired, as they might have, it would have been a public-relations coup for the Arabs -- but fortunately the Israelis held their fire. Next time, of course, those same Israeli soldires will not know if the first attempt was being repeated, or if the Arabs were trying to establish a pattern of potentially fatal non-response by the Israelis).
Why, one wishes to know, was the clear-cut Israeli denial -- something that is never given without incontrovertible proof (for the Israelis tend always to assume blame at once, far too quickly, as they did in the Mohammad al-Dura case, rather than sensibly suggest that a full investigation is necessary, one more sign of their amazing inabilility to intelligently present their case befor e the world) -- was this denial buried at the end of a story in The New Duranty Times (by Steven Erlanger, whose bored lack of sympathy toward Israel is palpable), and has hardly appeared anywhere else.
Why?
Posted by: Hugh
at June 12, 2006 4:10 PM
June 12, 2006
http://www.exn.ca/volcanoes/weather.cfm
1816: The year without a summer
The most famous example of this is the 'Year without a summer' after the eruption of Mount Tambora in Indonesia in the spring of 1815 – what many experts believe to have been the most explosive eruption in the past 10,000 years. By the end of its convulsions, the peak had lost 4,200 feet of its 13,000-foot height. A one-foot thick layer of volcanic ash covered the surface of the sea, and over the next year, the heavy ash fall blocked out the Sun's rays and changed weather patterns in most of the Northern Hemisphere.
Frosts killed crops in New England and Canada, causing serious food shortages. In Europe, it was much worse. Cold weather and heavy rains caused widespread famine. Food riots broke out in France and Switzerland. In Ireland, a cold rain fell for 142 out of 153 days during the summer of 1816, and 65,000 people died of hunger and from an ensuing typhus epidemic. After spreading to other parts of Europe, the epidemic ultimately killed 200,000 people.
And it all started with a volcanic eruption…
JUST MAKES YOU WONDER??
Dixie Chicks cancel some USA city’s for lack of sales? NO Americans don’t like to be bashed and called names after all they said they aint really country?? Yes the American People get pissed at their own who route for the other team!!
Seams that mulsum in the USA are not worried about hate crimes but about being deported back to mulsum lands?? Now I ask myself why would they worry about being deported when all’s we hear from them is how bad the USA is?? NOW THAT JUST DON’T MAKE SENCE!!
More Islamic terrorist dead today!
Karzi says he is going to rearm the Afghani People in the south to help fight the Islamic terrorist who are killing his people and trying to take their freedom and land, YES Freedom is worth fighting for!! The Afghani Army and USA have destroyed some monsters today!!
NOW #s out 17,000 murders in the USA in 2005 wonder the break down how many were committed by illegal-aliens? NOW why the senate bill can not pass as is how many mulsums have overstayed their visas. How can we say only Mexicans are OK won’t that be racist? NO the senate bill can not pass Border Security first! Seams it is illegal immigration stupid!! Why the democrats won’t win the Senate Democrats stopped the USA from drilling in ANWR and the Senate Democrats and some RINOs voted lock step for blanket amnesty for all illegal-aliens? Yes Rinos’s voted with the libs not to drill in ANWAR and Blanket amnesty but, most republicans voted to drill and shut down the Border leaks?
New Poll shows the People by 80% don’t trust the press to tell the truth and think that the Press is siding with the enemy?
Seams the American People are sick of the Press bashing their team!!
In gaza the gal rolling around on the beach is the same pali actress who is the little shade’ darling on pali TV Boy she is growing-up??
Democrat R. Byrd (KKK Member) is the longest sitting senator in US history WOW OH MY!!
Fla. will get the rain it needs to end a drought!
Will the American People Keep demanding the removal of the UN=LON=AL out of the USA?? Well maybe these people can go to Farnce where they can enjoy the nightly car bon-fires and sing alongs?? LEARN a BIG lesson the American People don’t like to be called names??
NYC I say to you Claim emit-domain think of all the Tax money by taken over the worthless UN?? Let France pay for this scum!!
Who the hell is this koffi any way what country is he from and how much does his country pay in dues to the UN=LON=AL What does his country export and what is their gross national product?? For this scum to bash the USA? Who is this koffi who doesn’t even go home to his own country by his house in Jackson-Hole WY How did this weasel get his job anyway Why did this weasel do nothing while all them people were macaques in Rwanda, Sudan, East Teamore Why is thei weasel koffie not doing anything about the Islamic terrorist who is this weasel anyway KICK THE UN OUT OF THE USA IT IS RUN BY WEASEL’S Who are ripping us off then calling us names!
,Piggie poop the new Bio-Diesel there is plenty, and easy to make, burns longer too!!
Seams that Fat Boy[NOW DEAD] lived 50 min’s and drowned in his own blood!! Some how I have no pity for a monster who killed so many people and Cut off heads and torched people I am glad this monster is dead! Seams the Iraqi People are glad this monster is dead too!!
Funny not one reporter [STILL STUCK ON STUPID] even asked who this religious guy rak-mand was or where he was from? Again who was this guy where is he from is [or was he since he is dead] was he from Iraq or was he from Jordan or was he a pali?? The reporters have totally missed this point or even to look into it??Seams once again we see Islamic terrorist using children as human shields isn’t this a war crime?? Where are the press against these Islamic terrorist who use babys while shooting at the Iraqi army and American’s and others SHAME DHAME SHAME ON THE PRESS!!
Judge in Reno NV shot in the chest??
A must read!!
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MmE5MDNkYmI1YzU5YmNmNjE3MjQ5MTFkZDkzYTYyNTY=
June 09, 2006, 5:58 a.m.
Vietnam, After All?
Formulaic warfare.
By Victor Davis Hanson
I heard that iran lost their football match??
Fire in OK storage tank Maybe they need to buld some lighting rods? I hear they work very well??
CK Repub bets the USA Now that stings?
Seams the press and democrats just don’t get it so let me make this real simple WE ARE WINNING the game we are at ½ time and they [the press & democrats] want to forfet and go home? Well those of you stuck on stupid that would mean we would lose? Well the American People don’t like that Idea the more the MSM including fox say the President is hurting because of the war WRONG the deeper the hole for the democrats gets. It’s not the war the people are pissed at but the Borders and the invasion? But remember it was hillary who stood up in NYC and Kennedy who stood Up in NYC to give aid and comfort to the illegal-aliens?
Well the Iraqi people do want freedom and are fighting for their FREEDOM with the USA and other Friends who see that the People don’t want to have their Heads cut off by monster Islamic terrorist?
SO DON’T BE STUCK ON STUPID
IF YOU HAVE KILLED 40% OF THE ENEMY AND MOCST ARE ON THE RUN SAYS YOU ARE WINNING!!
Getmo boys kill themselves with bed sheets and clothing? Maybe they were right @ auba gaub to keep them naked after all? They would not have been able to hurt themselves??
WHO CARES NOT ME!! I JUST SEE 3 MORE ISLAMIC TERRORIST DEAD AND CAN HURT NO ONE ELSE!!!
King of Jordan’s brother says it is not helpful that Islamic are using Islamic names for terrorism? Not helpful? Yep I can see that sense people in the west have begun to wonderand looked into the matte instead of taken mulsums word on the Islamic terrorist?
YES Islamic terrorist use the qu-ran to make their case about trying to take over the world, NOW this strategy is to control the waterway in which the oil flows to Europe because they think the Europeans to be wimps?
But wouldn’t you know that the Crazy Americans figured out another fuel source Piggy Poop!! In great supply , and very easy to make?
Plane attacks a house and SUV in Tampa??
Hungry some people fall because of water contamination??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECIVED BY THEM AMEN
at June 12, 2006 4:35 PM
Posted by: americaningermany at June 12, 2006 05:20 PM
Well you is up late and they are not popular anymore they said Country sucks and being that they sing Country Not good to bash those who would have bought their tapes??
Seams they also said OVERSEAS that they took back their sorry??
WELL I SAY TAKE THEIR SORRY BUTTS BACK OUT OF THE COUNTRY WITH MY BOOT UP IT!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
You are really out of touch you have bought into the MSM Lies All the Country stations that try to play their music get tones of phone call screaming to take it off??
at June 12, 2006 5:50 PM
Only "The Daily Telegraph" showed some signs of impartiality by sating that: "After the incident, Israel suspended all artillery in the area and expressed regret, although it refused to accept responsibility. It hinted over the weekend that the killings could have been caused by a malfunctioning Palestinian rocket."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/12/wmid12.xml
Posted by: Polish infideless
at June 12, 2006 5:59 PM
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