And they have the balls to say that who ever does not convert to Islam will burn in hell, sounds like the other way around to me.

Posted by: billybob at June 15, 2006 4:32 PM

Followed them back inside? Let's remember that next time we catch crap about violating the sanctity of mosques.

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott at June 15, 2006 4:34 PM

Savages!

Posted by: km at June 15, 2006 4:56 PM

Maybe I am just dense...but Iran saying they would use nukes...they claim they dont have..should be shocking......Iran would 'use nuclear defense' if threatened
Iran's defense minister on Thursday vowed that his country would "use nuclear defense as a potential" if "threatened by any power."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150355504526&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Posted by: storagemanager at June 15, 2006 5:11 PM

The biggest killer of muslims, other muslims. Sigh at least they can be proud of that.

Posted by: Ronin at June 15, 2006 5:22 PM

the religion of peace strikes again, does it not make you want to become a muslim? l can see the ranks swelling, more killing with more muslims.
Naseem do you still think islam is a peaceful religion, or any other Muslim reading this?

Posted by: Lulu at June 15, 2006 6:10 PM

Don't these people have anything better to do than hang around in mosques?

Don't they ever work?

And, by now, don't they ALL go armed, everywhere?

Or is this just more Inshallah fatalism on the victims' part? (Why protect yourself, Allah will provide?)

However, as long as it only means fewer homicidal or suicidal Muslims, c'est la vie.

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 15, 2006 6:48 PM

As distressing as this might appear to some of us on the surface, I don't think we should lose sight of the really important issue here - namely - were any Korans actually damaged in this incident?

Posted by: Caroline at June 15, 2006 7:06 PM

Such a waste. They hurled hand grenades and fired shots killing four worshippers and wounding up to 20 others. We all know they lie about the numbers. Probably one was killed and one wounded, learn to aim and stop wasting ammunition.

Posted by: Ronin at June 15, 2006 7:10 PM

Finally...some good news from Iraq....

Posted by: Anti-PC at June 15, 2006 7:17 PM

Good place for it - that way, the mosque can double as a morgue.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 15, 2006 9:20 PM

Islam is a blood-slicked highway to Hell. The Kuran is the turnoff signpost.

Posted by: pythagoras at June 15, 2006 9:49 PM

Henry,

The Catholic Church is just as complicit in the ideological disarming of the West as the mainline Protestant Churches. It seems to be that the Protestant Evangelicals are the only Christians willing to acknowledge that Islam is a violent and intolerant faith.

Posted by: Cornelius at June 15, 2006 10:54 PM

Henry:

"Now we have those people who put down Crusaders as evil, crude, and stupid, needing to act as the New Crusaders. But will they now admit that the Catholics were exactly correct in the ways they fought against the Muslims, all perfectly correct they were! The Catholic Church knows how to win the war against this monstrosity. Isn't it about time people stop trying to act like they invented the wheel, and go to the Roman Catholics with hat in hand, and a brand new attitude of respect and gratitude??? Now we have those people who put down Crusaders as evil, crude, and stupid, needing to act as the New Crusaders. But will they now admit that the Catholics were exactly correct in the ways they fought against the Muslims, all perfectly correct they were! The Catholic Church knows how to win the war against this monstrosity. Isn't it about time people stop trying to act like they invented the wheel, and go to the Roman Catholics with hat in hand, and a brand new attitude of respect and gratitude??? "

Sorry. I don't quite see it this way.
If you are going back so long in the history of the Catholic Church you seem to have overlooked a few things.

Yes - the Church and the Crusaders may have been correct in what they did in the "Holy Land", however, they also killed a lot of Jews, and anti-semitism was kept alive for hundreds of years .It is still around.

Let's not forget the Spanish Inquisition either. Look what the Church supported back then?
Look at what the Spanish did in the Americas to the native populations, and more recently look at WW2.
Where was the Church while the concentration camps were running full steam?

The Church in Italy is selling off churches to muslims for mosques. I don't think this really shows that the Church knows how to win this war at all. Quite the opposite.

However the new Pope seems to be in agreement on many issues with Oriana Fallaci which is a positive sign.

However, you and I are entitled to our opinions.

Posted by: Gramfan at June 15, 2006 10:56 PM

"The biggest killer of muslims, other muslims. Sigh at least they can be proud of that.

Posted by: Ronin"

Exactly!! Shame none of them have realised this fact as yet.

Is it a coincidence that almost every trouble spot on this planet (maybe not Korea,and some other places, but not many) has muslims attached to it?

Posted by: Gramfan at June 15, 2006 11:02 PM

The outside insurgents are being killed by all sides, but

WILL THE SUNNIS AND SHIA HAVE CIVIL WAR IN IRAQ??? WILL IT COME TO BE???

The best thing for the world is for the two main sects of mos to have a total war between the sects. Let the crazies kill the crazies.

Posted by: Texican at June 15, 2006 11:31 PM

Henry,

"dear Gramfan and other, well, I could argue against what you said up there on all counts, but this is not really the time for it - not with the savages at our doors,,"

On this point I TOTALLY agree with you.

We really shouldn't be here nitpicking about other faiths etc because islam is nothing like any other. It is simply a death cult no less.

We are going to have to put ourselves in the same boat on this menace to our western culture, and freedom.

I didn't sign up here just to discuss the finer points of of Judeo-Christianity, Buddhim,,whatever.

And I hope we all have a nice life without these creeps trying to ruin it.

Posted by: Gramfan at June 16, 2006 12:10 AM

I don't get it. If the greatest faith on earth, the one truth faith, Islam is 'all that,' in that it can never be surpassed by the Jews or Christians, then why do they keep killing one another? This is not just Shia-Sunni either. It is also Islamist against Sunni Bathist dead enders as well. It would seem to my uneducated eye, this killing in the Islamic Clair de Lune(Mosque)is a red line that is repeatedly crossed.

When is the last time a group of Orthodox Jews torched a reform synoguge? or butchered a secular leftist Jew? I also missed the news report of a crazed Armenian Christian beheading a baptist or that item about a Catholic blowing up a unitarian Church because of following the wrong doctrine. You could make the point(I will)there is more diversity within Christianity than the split within Islam. Yet, I don't recall much killing among Christians in the past 500 years. The exception being in Northern Ireland, and that never was to the degree of the killing--on a daily basis--within Islam.

Look, making fun of the Prophet with a cartoon may piss off Muslims. Yes, a certain amount of sarcasm could justifiably rub people the wrong way. I don't enjoy cartoons about Jews. But, if this is something that provokes 'rage' amoung 'youths' the world over, one 'might' think that killing one's co-religionists in a freaking house of Islamic worship might be a worse 'crime.'

If a infedel satarizes the prophet, all bets are off, mass hysteria ensues! But if a moslem beheads every Shia in sight, not a freaking squeek from the religion of peace. What a sham.

Posted by: biorabbi at June 16, 2006 1:11 AM

Ronin said

Such a waste ... learn to aim and stop wasting ammunition.

So true. Thankfully their incompetence applies to fighting infidels as well, which is why they choose as their opponents old ladies sitting on buses, little schoolgirls walking to school, families eating in a restaurant, and young men blindfolded with their hands tied behind their back. I remember the video of Zarqawi firing a semi-automatic; when it jammed, he relied on assistants to come and clear his weapon for him. True "militants" must cringe every time they hear the term applied to the jihadists.

Posted by: special_guest at June 16, 2006 2:27 AM

Actually, the conflict in Northern Ireland was never about religion or disagreements over religious doctrine. It would be more accurate to say that it was an ethnic conflict where religion identified one's ethnicity and thus which "side" you were likely to be on.If you were Protestant (descended fron Scots/English settlers),it meant you were British and loyal to the United Kingdom and wished Northern Ireland to remain a part thereof and if you were Roman Catholic it meant that you were Irish and wished for Northern Ireland to be united to the Irish Republic.

More over the IRA is the military wing of Sinn Fein, an oganisation whose aim is to create a Socialist/Marxist Republic on the island of Ireland and who are very supportive of the "palistinian struggle" and have conections with other left wing organisations such as FARC in Columbia and others.(Hardly a ringing endorsement of their Cristianity)They have never used Catholic doctrine to justify their actions.

Although individual Catholic clergy have aided the IRA, it has alway been contrary to the Church and at various times in the past the Catholic church has excomunicated or threatened to excomunicate members of the IRA or refused to conduct the funerals of IRA men killed in action.

I realise this doesn't have much to do with the struggle against Jihad, exept that at times I have read or heard Muslim apologists use the Northern Ireland conflict to illustrate examples of "Christian" wars.

I hope I have shown that this is not one of them.

LaFrontera

Posted by: La Frontera at June 16, 2006 4:37 AM

Henry,
I dunno about common ancestors - possible since we are not muslims,lol!

Biorabbi,
Good points.
muslims kill because they do not value human life.
We all do.

Are you guys familiar with the two miners who were trapped almost a kilometre undergound in Tasmania recently? They were there for 2 weeks.
They were kept alive and no expense was spared getting them out safely, and that involved risking the lives of the rescuers.

Can you imagine any muslim country,,even China for that matter, doing this to save two men?
I can't. It is a tribute to our traditions and the human spirit. We want to keep it this way.

La Frontera,
this was also a good post because it clarifies the Irish situation well. Often muslims use this to display moral equivalence and we should all be able to dispute it: now we have the answer.

Posted by: Gramfan at June 16, 2006 9:53 AM

Because there has been no global outcry from Muslim religious leaders, we can rest assured that no Qurans were damaged in the attack.

Posted by: panos at June 16, 2006 11:15 AM

Huh. I coulda sworn I mentioned something about the whole Northern Ireland thing not being a primarily Catholic/Protestant religious conflict yesterday.

Guess I was mistaken.

Posted by: Eisenhund at June 16, 2006 4:04 PM

Yesterday, that is.

Posted by: Eisenhund at June 16, 2006 4:12 PM