Did they mention Rome because Italy has soldiers in Iraq, or because they're still living in the far past?

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at June 22, 2006 12:42 PM

Terror apperas to have paid, but at best only modestly for Hamas. It's hard to determine exactly how much of Israel's motiviation to evacuate from Gaza can be attributed to acts of terrorism and how much was internal and external pressure to "make peace" with the Palestinians.

I think we need to see how things unfold over the next while to see if this declaration of success is as premature as the MSM's recent early determination of Israel's culpability in the Gaza Beach story.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at June 22, 2006 12:43 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but Israel evacuated the Gaza strip as a gesture as to their sincerity of achieving a peace settlement with the Palestinians with arm twisting assistance from the US and EU.

They did not run from terror.

Israel could impose a military solution on the Palestinian territories any time they want, the liars and obfuscators of the PA know this and the words of the deceased Yasser Ghalban ring hollow as one more Islamist gob on a stick lies in pieces.

Posted by: Turbinehead at June 22, 2006 12:58 PM

This is great example of why I will never flinch. Islam is not to be bargained with.

I knew that concessions to Hamas would lead to just more Muslim aggression. It is supported by so much historical evidence, that only blind doves like Jimmy Carter could ever hope for a positive outcome from bending knee to Islam in the name of "tolerance" and "goodwill." What rubbish.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 1:02 PM

They mentioned Rome because it was the last great Western empire to crumble and much of it due to the incursions of Islam (i.e. Byzantine, Constantinople).

In other words, yes, they are still living a past we don't relate to because the jihad has never stopped!

I hope everyone reading this understands the implications.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 1:05 PM

Just another P. C. and Muslim trick call those who fight Islam bigots. Islam is not a Person or a Race of People. Islam is not a country. Muslims are Arab, German, American or From Many many countrys..Islam is a way of life an Idea...You can call me a bigot all day long...FDR was not a Bigot for fighting Nazi Germany..Fighting Slavery..Does not make one a Bigot!.........."We will rule the nations, by Allah's will, the USA will be conquered, Israel will be conquered, Rome and Britain will be conquered…....( Islam speaks!

Posted by: storagemanager at June 22, 2006 1:06 PM

The video is a collection of statements by Hamas terrorist leader, Yasser Ghalban, killed last week by Palestinians, in the ongoing internal fighting.

Good deal.

After watching his statements I'm glad Fatah (I presume) chose to get rid of him.

Posted by: GreatShaitan at June 22, 2006 1:07 PM

This is terrifying news! We should immediately beg them to accept a large increase in the jizya. We should also admit several million more poor, oppressed Palestinians to the United States and provide them with cash stipends, housing, medical care, and an appropriate number of mosques. (Perhaps they would be gracious enough to accept the conversion of existing church buildings into mosques - it's worth a try.)

Oh, never mind, we're already doing all of that aren't we? Well, we must just do more!

Don't worry, be happy!

Islamis a religion of peace!

Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!

Allahu akbar!

Posted by: Norseman at June 22, 2006 1:10 PM

Hey, John Howard, where you at now?

Posted by: JanuaryMan at June 22, 2006 1:15 PM

Gee...does anyone know who I can make a contribution to these noble Palestinians and their glorious, HAMAS lead government! Why we Westerners should just be tripping over ourselves right now trying to find better ways of throwing more cash at them! I wonder if the IRS offers a tax deduction for such noble causes?

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at June 22, 2006 1:15 PM

We fought Nazi Germany without killing all the Germans...But I guess we dont have the Guts to call Islam the enemy now. The Koran is a book of War...Islam is at war with us...I pray for all Sane people...NOT LIVING IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE!

Posted by: storagemanager at June 22, 2006 1:17 PM

"Just as the Jews ran from Gaza, the Americans will run from Iraq and Afghanistan ..."

Just remember, no matter under what circumstances we leave Iraq, it will be portrayed as an abject retreat in the face of the unconquerable mujihadeen. And the Muslims and dhimmis will believe that and act accordingly.

The West cannot win this struggle. They simply do not have the will to win.

It's all over but the beheadings.

Don't worry, be happy!

Islam is a religion of peace!

Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!

Allahu akbar!

Posted by: Norseman at June 22, 2006 1:17 PM

It's nice to know that Hamas have geopolitical ambitions that far exceed the conquest of Israel.

The only way to turn this around is to militarily capture Mecca & Medina, expel their Muslim inhabitants, and occupy it with Infidels, destroying the Ka'aba and Mohammed's tomb, fortify them, and let Muslim militias worldwide start heading for Saudi Arabia, and destroy them there. Once they find that they have to re-capture their "holy" cities, imposing Shariah on the West, Israel, India, Australia, Thailand or elsewhere in dar-ul-Islam will no longer be a priority.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 22, 2006 1:18 PM

Just remember, no matter under what circumstances we leave Iraq, it will be portrayed as an abject retreat in the face of the unconquerable mujihadeen. And the Muslims and dhimmis will believe that and act accordingly. ...by above poster

Muslims believe a lot of silly lies. They are SUCH a backward lot of people.

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 1:29 PM

The problem, "freewomen", is not that Muslims (and dhimmis) believe "a lot of silly lies". The problem is that they will act on those beliefs.

It is not possible to win a war until the enemy is completely subdued and gives up all hope of resistance. Because the West will not impose such a victory upon the Muslims, the West will lose the war.

In fact, of course, the West has already lost. Its political and cultural elites have made the decision. All that's left for you to do is to take the shahadda.

Come on now, it's easy:

I testify that there is no god but Allah and that Mohammed is His prophet.

Now don your burqa and ululate!

Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!

Allahu akbar!

Posted by: Norseman at June 22, 2006 1:39 PM

Norseman, believe me when I say ,
if I want to be miserable , I can be miserable without the aid of islam.

I am also not going to cover my cute clothes with a tarp.

If I don't bow down to my husband (who is a great guy, btw) 5 times a day, what makes you think I would a nasty pedophile?

Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 1:46 PM

It's far more satisfying to have women bow down willingly anyway.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 1:51 PM

Your great poet Peteofi said this:

"Here is the time, now or never!
Shall we be slaves or free?
This is the question, answer!
By the God of the Hungarians we swear,
We swear to be slaves no more!"
These words were addressed to the Hungarian people, yet they speak to all people, in all times. This is the spirit that we honor today. I appreciate the opportunity to come to this great country and to celebrate the Hungarian example -- the courage, the sacrifice, the perseverance that has led to this democracy. PRESIDENT BUSH

Islam is Slavery. Freedom in America is worth fighting for. Nazi Germany was named the Enemy and we won. Islam must be named the enemy and banned in America.

Posted by: storagemanager at June 22, 2006 1:56 PM

And they wonder why we won't give Hamas "aid"

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at June 22, 2006 1:56 PM

I'm thinking modern unbelievers as a whole suffer from the same lack of vision the original Crusaders had. The original crusaders went to the holy city of Jerusalem to remove the muslims control of the holy sites and to stop any abuse of pilgrims and the holy sites. Muslims were preventing pilgrims from getting to them and extorting and bullying them along the way.

The capture of Jerusalem might have been all the crusaders wanted to achieve but it couldn't be kept as an island in a sea of Islam. It was either the Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem be destroyed or its enemy, Islam. The crusaders stopped short. they should have taken the holy sites of Islam and should have smashed the idols, pulled down the mosques, destroyed the temple of Islam in other words. To pull the weed up by the roots thus removing the 'root cause' of the troubles in the holy land. This will solve the problem and doesn't involve killing large numbers of people (directly anyway)

The mosques need to be leveled, the pillars of Islam need to be pulled down, Mohammed and his alter-ego allah need to be discredited and the proofs of all this need to be driven home to the 7th century mind.

allah is figment; a false god which can be shown to be unresponsive and ineffectual and impotent to the systematic destruction of all it is supposed to support and protect.

Prove that allah has no power nor do its slaves. We have the means to do this quite easily if we could only grasp it.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at June 22, 2006 1:59 PM

Killer-zombies like those at HAMAS don't actually KNOW anything. They are just dribbling out the garbage that was programmed into them.

'Garbage in. Garbage out.'

Americans WON'T be joining the killer-zombies on their trip down the blood-slicked highway to hell that is Islam.

Posted by: pythagoras at June 22, 2006 2:01 PM

My brothers and sisters, please read and inform you friends and loved ones about a danger,a danger which we and the entire world are not safe from.

There is a cult spawned from war, death and destruction, its followers, follow a man(piss be upon him), who is a proven mass murderer, lier and master of deception, he had hallucinations of receiving gods revelations.

They want to enforce their way of life on us, a way of life which is dark, sadistic and corrupt.
They will stop at nothing to achieve their primitive aims, they want to control us, and have all the power, if allowed to flourish those who dont share their beliefs will be massacred and the survivors will live as second class citizens.

They commit the most violent acts, yet are angered by any form of critisism,and respond with death and destruction.
dressed as sheeps, they are infact wolves as their actions have proved.

their followers are blinded by a false sense of supremicy, which explains their view that they are the people of peace and we are the violent ones.

their women are trapped,oppressed and treated in the most derogotary ways.
Their leader(piss be upon him) shares similarities to the anti christ as can be seen in gods true books.
Driven by arrogance, ignorance and hate they strive for global domination, and throughout history them and their ancestors have contributed nothing but oppression, lies, deceit,death, destruction, and usuary.
We all know who they are

Posted by: sam at June 22, 2006 2:11 PM

Hamas is nothing more than the tool of satan. And because we are living in the end times, satan is making his last and final attempt at world domination.

Soon, Hamas' reign of terror will end, but not before an all-out war. In the end, Hamas, Islam, and all the puppets of satan that followed this evil cult/religion will be put to an end, and cast into hell for eternity because they rejected the Truth.

Eternity for them won't be a paradise of virgin sex slaves, but a place called the lake of fire. Relax folks, Hamas is a tooth-less lion who is all bark, but no bite. And Islam can have my head, but they will never have my heart.

Posted by: champ at June 22, 2006 2:13 PM

sam: It is no secret...Islam is pure, unadulterated EVIL that slaughters innocent human beings as though it were adjusting window shades!!!!

I refer to it as the world's largest death squad (which is in effect what it is).

Posted by: pythagoras at June 22, 2006 2:15 PM

The name of this CULT is AMERICANISATION, its followers AMERICANIST, Their leader and proven Lier, Cowardly killer, and Hypocrite BUSH(PISS BE UPON HIM).
They the AMERICANIST are brainwashed by there politicians and media, thus the reason for their sense of national supremicy, and their beleifs that its the worlds thats evil not them. history annd their present actions prove different.
They are blinded by the evil thats commited in the name theIR DEMOCRATIC EXTREMIST GOVERNMENT and feel no shame for the crimes which has been commited by governments they voted for. yet a crime(which pales in comparison to what they have done, are doing) commited against them results in them stigmatising a whole religion. the americanist are the biggest hypocrites and the BUSHISM is the threat to our world.

Posted by: sam at June 22, 2006 2:19 PM

Norseman, you have to say the shahada in classic Arabic, otherwise it dosn't count. We all know that classic Arabic is the language that is spoken in heaven of course. Of course we all know that in islam all people are equal. Its just that some people (Arabs) are more equal than others.

Posted by: Abu Allah at June 22, 2006 2:21 PM

Blinded by their religion of hatred, they can’t possibly understand that the ‘invaders’ have no desire to occupy their land. They have no clue as to the simple fact that those of us there want nothing to do with their crap-tastic land and want nothing more than to go home to green pastures and beautiful sceneries. Eventually we will go home, but not because they were the high and mighty force of holiness that drove us out, but because we don’t want to be in their disgusting, putrid sandbox.

That said, no matter when we leave or how we leave, they’ll use their mysterious abilities of reality-warping and turn the real-life scenario around to make themselves look superior and the rest of the Muslim world, blind to the facts and stewing in their hatred for the western world, will undoubtedly believe the lies. They’ll never believe us in the propaganda war and will always believe one Muslim voice above thousands of others, no matter how filled with garbage that one voice’s message may be.

That’s exactly why we need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan and while they’re dancing in the streets, handing candy out to children, shooting their rifles in the air, and proclaiming that they’ve wiped out the crusader/Zionist enemy invaders, we drop enough bombs across a strip of the Middle East to lay waste to the Islamic disease that’s infected that area for far too long. Hell, drop enough there to create the world’s largest crater, step back, and say “yeah, you wanted martyrdom and got it. You win.”

That’s the only way we’ll all win.

Posted by: illustr8rg8r at June 22, 2006 2:22 PM

Pythagoras -

Sam is talking about Christians, not Muslims. On another thread he posted the SAME garbage trying to lead people into thinking that he's talking about Islam, when in fact he's talking about Christianity.

Go to June 20, and find the thread that covers the "Bodies of Missing Soldiers Recovered", and scroll down to the end of the thread. There you will find his "answer" to his stupid question under his username, Sam.

Posted by: champ at June 22, 2006 2:24 PM

sam:

Welcome to JW. Please keep posting. You illustrate my own points with painful clarity.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 2:25 PM

From where I am sitting it looks like Islam has already conquered Britain.

http://301url.com/BritishMuslims

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 2:28 PM

sam, "Americanist?" How clever, did you think of that all by yourself or did you just copy it from some silly islamist website?

Let me get this straight, you are saying that islam's only problem is the US? That dosn't seem to jive with what your brothers are doing in Somolia, Chechnia, Thailand, the Filipines, Kashmir, or just about any other place that majority muslims come into direct contact with non muslims. On the other hand, the US gets along quite well with most of the countries on the planet. When is the last time the US invaded Canada or Mexico?

Posted by: Abu Allah at June 22, 2006 2:28 PM

Sam -

You are making a colossal FOOL of yourself, because no one in their right mind is going to fall for your toxic lies.

The truth of the matter is that Islam is the poison you just described. Islam is the tool of satan. Your prophet, Mo, was a drug addicted whoremonger with too much time on his hands. Sitting in a remote cave, smoking crack (or whatever he "used"), that's a recipe for being insane!!! Mo not only had delusions of grandeur, but he developed a mental illness that YOU, and others', have foolishly gotten sucked in to.

Sam, you are on the loosing team, and the sooner you realize it, the sooner you can stop posting your idiotic posts.

Posted by: champ at June 22, 2006 2:30 PM

They want to conquer the world and will do so by any means necessary.
Their cities are overun by crime,drugs and disease.
Their women are bought up in an environment where they are judged by their bodies(not brains ect) the ones without the so called perfect body are driven to mental ill and suicide.
Their women have no respect for their bodies.
the americanist believe are driven by pride, arrogance and ignorance, they are brainwashed and the outcome is hypocricy, war crimes, destruction, their ideology and beliefs can best be described as Democratic christian extremism, and the DCE'S leader has hullucinations of talking to good the, enemy they describe bare striking similarites to their own statments and actions, yet the brainwashed americanist do not see this

Posted by: sam at June 22, 2006 2:32 PM

Oh, give Sam some credit: the U.S.A. is the big problem for him and his ilk. Afterall, once we [USA] are out of the way, there's no-hold-barred on the jihad, the Islamization of the world and the stripping of human rights and freedoms from women, non-Arabs, etc. Even the Muslims that think they are going to win, the "reverts" to the religion, have no idea what awaits them if the Caliphate rules once more. I have a very eye-opening National Geographic documentary about the Hajj that shows quite clearly that racism from Muslim Arabs is rampant against Muslims of "other" origin.

You see, fascism is what it is: it accepts you as soldiers to destroy its enemies, until such time as it no longer needs you. Then the Islamo-fascists will seek out new enemies, new "devils" to remove, and that's when they will fall upon themselves and weed out the "impure." Sort of sounds like the Nazi deathcamps again, doesn't it?

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 2:34 PM

It's nice to know that Hamas have geopolitical ambitions that far exceed the conquest of Israel.

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Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 22, 2006 01:18 PM

You make a good point, Infidel Pride. Noticeably missing from this particular Hamas list, is that part of Spain that Hamas's on-line kiddie jihad porn mag describes as "Al-Andaluse" in a bid to prime the young ones for the next big fight.

But oh yeah, these poor Palestinians are only crying out for justice after being force out of their ancient homeland, eh?

Posted by: waterdragon52 at June 22, 2006 2:37 PM

illustr8rgr8r - we don't have to bomb vast tracts of Middle eastern desert. Killing millions of people won't 'win' it for us.

Killing allah will.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at June 22, 2006 2:38 PM

Oh, and one point I'd like to make right now for Sam and the world at large: the United States of America has never been an Imperialist power, but make no mistake, we are quite warlike. While many of your points are invalid, some are true. You are wise to fear the United States.

The United States of America is going to destroy the hopes of the New Caliphate. And we're going to do it by force because that is the only option left to us.

So I predict. Mark down the time and day if you'd like.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 2:38 PM

They want to conquer the world and will do so by any means necessary.
Their cities are overun by crime,drugs and disease.
Their women are bought up in an environment where they are judged by their bodies(not brains ect) the ones without the so called perfect body are driven to mental ill and suicide.
Their women have no respect for their bodies.
the americanist believe are driven by pride, arrogance and ignorance, they are brainwashed and the outcome is hypocricy, war crimes, destruction, their ideology and beliefs can best be described as Democratic christian extremism, and the DCE'S leader has hullucinations of talking to good the, enemy they describe bare striking similarites to their own statments and actions, yet the brainwashed americanist do not see this
Posted by: sam [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 02:32 PM

Sounds exactly like the umma to me, just replace americanist with Islamist and his inane statement begins to make sense.

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 2:41 PM

Methinks Sam doth project too much.

Posted by: Know Your Enemy at June 22, 2006 2:41 PM

US_Infidel, don't forget the third kind of muslim (which more or less encompasses the first two types you mentioned): 3. Those who breed like rats. Demographic conquest is at least as important in their campaign, and alot more effective, than either taqyia or jihad.

Posted by: Abu Allah at June 22, 2006 2:41 PM

Methinks Sam doth project too much.
Posted by: Know Your Enemy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 02:41 PM

LOL :-)

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 2:43 PM

i was not talking about christianity, i was talking about Democratic christian extremist( a deveint sect of christianity)

The biggest problem is Americas plan for global domination.
There is also the threat of muslim extremist.
this threat has multiplied, due to the BUSH not accecpting that the reasons for 9/11 were tangible(ie, support of israel, and bases in muslim land) by saying that al qaeda's reasons were intangible(i.e they hate our way of life) bush showed his lack of repsect for his followers, and confirmed that he was a lier. this along with the heinus war crimes in iraq and the obvious lies leading up to it, along with the double standard, deceit and hypocricy on behalf of your media, politician and people like your selves, has increase the terrorist threat.

Posted by: sam at June 22, 2006 2:44 PM

sam, do you eat green eggs and ham?

Posted by: JanuaryMan at June 22, 2006 2:46 PM

Anyone ever see the Monty Python episode
"How to Ppot a Loon?"

Posted by: Weatherob at June 22, 2006 2:48 PM

"Salvation will come from the Bible Belt, from people of faith, from conservatives, from home-schooled, principled, courageous, uncompromising individuals." -- from above posting

Interestingly enough, I heard a theory yesterday that rang true -- because Islam is so zealous, so cultist, so dogmatic, so fundamentalist -- the world is going to see a growth in the same zealous mindset in other world religions (true religions, I should say), and this will help bolster the needed opposition to Islam. I already see evidence of this on television and in daily life.

The harder Islam pushes, the more enemies it will create. The hubris of the mullahs will be the undoring of the Islamic dream: they believe the infidel is weak and distracted and fooled right now. This is why they suddenly have the "courage" to start acting and spend billions of dollars on propaganda and building mosques in Western nations. Unfortunately, the infidels are aware now. The alarm bells are sounding. We are not what the Muslims (i.e. Sam) want to believe we are. What we really are is something they would be wise to never want to really confront, but then, Muslims have never been very good at learning lessons from history, so the mistake is to be expected.

Hear that drumbeat? That's the awakening of millions of Americans, Canadians, Australians, British, French, Germans, et al to the TRUTH about Islam.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 2:48 PM

I'm getting confused now. If Israel "runs from terror" by pulling out (rightfully or wrongfully), then the terrorists have won because Israel let them. Israel should stand firm and not give ground.

If America "runs from terror" by pulling out of Iraq (rightfully or wrongfully), then the terrorists have won because America let them. But if America stays put, we're wasting blood and treasure and stopping the Islamists from killing each other instead of us. America should stand firm/retreat to higher ground.

I'm confused now, which is it? Obviously America and Israel are a little different and are in slightly different situations, but the analogy I am trying to draw is that the proposed reasoning behind each countrys' decision is the same... that doing X gives the Islamists Y. For Israel, I feel JW advocates not giving ground, while for America, I feel JW advocates high-tailing it out at this point and letting the jihad-free-for-all begin.

My question now, I guess, is why? Why does the same reasoning produce different conclusions for the two?

Reminds me of a previous poster on this site awhile back who said, "George Bush says al-Qaeda wants to turn many Islamic nations into one. George Bush has decided to keep Iraq, which is ostensibly 3 Islamic nations, as one. Is George Bush on al-Qaeda's side?" or something to that effect.

I'd be most appreciative if Mr. Spencer or Mr. Fitzgerald would take the time to give me a little insight on this topic. Maybe I've got it all wrong somehow.

Posted by: sologue at June 22, 2006 2:49 PM

How to Spot a Loon :)

Posted by: Weatherob at June 22, 2006 2:49 PM

Sam seems to think the west are all brainwashed, well check this fine piece of Islamofascist brainwashing perpetrated on Muslim children.

http://xrl.us/Muslimchildabuse

What do you have to say to that sam, not very much I bet, because when koranimals are shown the truth they tend to runaway and seethe in a corner.

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 2:52 PM

Well OK, "freewoman", I'll bend a bit and not insist on the burqa. But will you still ululate for me?

P.S. Ignore the rantings of "Foehammer". He is but an infidel who knows not that of which he speaks.

Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!

Posted by: Norseman at June 22, 2006 2:59 PM

The problem with Sam's (or more likely Samir's) assertion that the only resistors of the global jihad are this before unknown group known as "Americanists," and their only impetus in opposing the jihad is their own aspirations for global domination, is that many on this site who oppose the global jihad are non Americans. I know for a fact we have Israelis, Indians, British, Irish, all manner of Europeans, and probably some Africans and East Asians as well.

Posted by: Abu Allah at June 22, 2006 2:59 PM

norseman,
you parody Dubya's name as Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush.
As your reward, I'll tell you bushah and bosh mean in Hebrew. They mean shame, disgrace, and the like. So you could call him Prez Bushah.

Posted by: Eliyahu at June 22, 2006 3:03 PM

The biggest problem is Americas plan for global domination.
There is also the threat of muslim extremist.
this threat has multiplied, due to the BUSH not accecpting that the reasons for 9/11 were tangible(ie, support of israel, and bases in muslim land) by saying that al qaeda's reasons were intangible(i.e they hate our way of life) bush showed his lack of repsect for his followers, and confirmed that he was a lier. this along with the heinus war crimes in iraq and the obvious lies leading up to it, along with the double standard, deceit and hypocricy on behalf of your media, politician and people like your selves, has increase the terrorist threat.
Posted by: sam [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 02:44 PM

So America is responsible for a 1400 year campaign of violent Jihad by Muslims to spread Islam throughout the world. You really are a misinformed antiAmerican bigot sam.

The simple fact of the matter is Islam declared war on the rest of the world centuries ago, this is just the latest phase of the ongoing struggle. Your appologetics for the Islamofascists makes you as bad as them.

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 3:04 PM

Km, just watched the video.

They left out the rapes and beatings of the girls. The beheadings. I wonder who the girl with the beard in the wheelchair was supposed to be.

Shame on islamics for their child abuse. Where is the human rights orgs? It's no wonder muslims are a dependant people. They need to stress the three R's instead of bomb making, weapon carrying, stomping, dead pedophile worshipping koranic 101. No wonder they so backward.

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 3:07 PM

But back to the topic at hand, we need to make this video known as far and wide as possible. I think that the election of Hamas is actually a positive developement. No longer can "rogue" palestinian militias carry out terror attacks, while the complicit weasels of the PA whine and cry that they cannot be held responsible for attacks carried out by militias outside their authority. Now that Hamas is in power, how can the PA not be responsible when Hamas terrorists carry out an attack? These attacks can no longer be considered criminal terrorist acts, but instead should be viewed as government sanctioned acts of war.

Posted by: Abu Allah at June 22, 2006 3:08 PM

P.S. Ignore the rantings of "Foehammer". He is but an infidel who knows not that of which he speaks.

Posted by: Norseman [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 02:59 PM

I am sure Foehammer doesnt need me to stick up for him, but Norseman you have been called out several times in the past for being a Muzzie quisling.

Go pedal your filfth elsewhere.

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 3:11 PM

Ululating is DEFINITELY a way to run people away from you. It's very annoying. It sounds like a turkey farm at feeding time.

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 3:11 PM

Ooops.....Norseman, is that y'alls mating call?

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 3:13 PM

Guess it wasn't Allah's will for that piece of pigshit to live much longer after making that video. Good riddance.

@sam: At least we "americanists" can form a coherent sentence.

Posted by: infidel4life at June 22, 2006 3:14 PM

SAM,

Thanks for the inspiration. Sounds like Bush is getting to ya, huh?

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at June 22, 2006 3:24 PM

From a posting above:

"..Where is the human rights orgs..."

The 'human rights org's' are bought and sold by & to Mohammedan interests, you could see that when a Bangladeshi Irene Khan did her little agit-prop about "Gulag-Gitmo"... just like the UN, this ridiculous, corrupt construct with an equally corrupt & incompetent African at the helm, Amnesia Intentional lost all legitimacy and has become a sick joke.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 22, 2006 3:25 PM

Km, just watched the video.

They left out the rapes and beatings of the girls. The beheadings. I wonder who the girl with the beard in the wheelchair was supposed to be.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 03:07 PM

I believe that was the infants 'PG' matine, the more sexually orientated interpretations of Islamic doctrine are shown later in the day and given a 12 certificate. The mooslimes do have some sensibilities you know. ;-)

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 3:26 PM

The truth of the matter is that 6 million Muslims leave Islam a year. So in truth Hamas has got things all wrong. Here is a URL about an interview that is very informitive.

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3995

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at June 22, 2006 3:26 PM

Just look to Nigeria to see the future. Islam is not a race. This is not a racial issue. Nigeria is being torn apart, the Christians move away, the muslims take over and start to fight on the line again. Over and over.

Look at this article. They are all the same race, all the same nationality and yet it is the same as it is everywhere else when muslims move into an area. Are these Christian African people bigoted? No, just not suicidal. And not PC. They speak what they see. They know they can't keep moving away.

http://www.acage.org/news/?day=06212006&id=0007

Here's one paragraph. But read the whole article to see the constant muslim attacks and church burnings story. What is the muslim apologist excuse for what is happening in this area? Let's see, not race, not foreign policy, not colonialism, not poverty ( all are poor). Oh yeah, I know, just ignore it.

“The strategy of the Muslims is that if they attack us and we flee, they then appropriate our land and homes as spoils of war and then consolidate their hold on the area, and then move on to attack us again in the new area we have moved to,” he said. “In this way, they gain ground by spreading the tentacles of Islam. We do not think it is wise for Christians to take to their heels any time they are attacked by Muslims. How can we run away from the land the Lord has given us?”

Posted by: Borg at June 22, 2006 3:39 PM

"They need to stress the three R's ..."

Posted by Freewoman

Also, add Spellchecking and Grammerchecking.

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at June 22, 2006 3:41 PM

From OUR MAN in Kabul, Hamid Karzai:

"Stop killing Taliban, just give us money:.."

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/world/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 22, 2006 3:51 PM

Sorry: The second link above is the one that works!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 22, 2006 3:53 PM

Jesus Christ Supercop

Did they mention Rome because Italy has soldiers in Iraq, or because they're still living in the far past?

Get real. They'll say any old shit that rolls off their tongue. You are thinking logically and expect the same from these feral critters

Posted by: dennisw at June 22, 2006 3:53 PM

Karzai has some nerve to say it's not fair that the Afghans are dying. If he doesn't like it, use the money he's got now and rid themselves of the taliban. I know it won't happen..so he needs to shut up. Or at least advise his people to turn over the taliban. Or shoot on sight.

Sounds to me like Hell is filling up fast!

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 3:59 PM

To those who say america has never been an imperialist nation. ur country was built on collaborative imperialism. i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home,u went to america killed the red indians and stole their land and mde it your own, this is the foundation of your nation, maybe u should look at your selves.

Posted by: sam at June 22, 2006 4:05 PM

No wonder you and the israelis have your head up each others a r s es

Posted by: sam at June 22, 2006 4:08 PM

I was born here. I guess that makes me a true native American.

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 4:09 PM

i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home,u went to america killed the red indians and stole their land and mde it your own, this is the foundation of your nation, maybe u should look at your selves.

Posted by: sam [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 04:05 PM

Christopher Columbus discovered American in 1492. America was founded in 1776, approximately 300 years later. You cannot blame America – as a constitution, a regime, and a state – for killing the Indians.

We can however point the finger at Muslims for centuries of barbarity and war mongering all done under the constitiution of Islam.

Grow a brain Sam.

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 4:12 PM

Sam bin Waleed

Quit the dawa. This isn't just about the US, it's about the US, Canada, Europe, Israel, Australia, India, Thailand, Phillipines, Nigeria and any number of other countries that are battlegrounds between you vermin and civilization. All those myriad attacks on Indonesian Christians, Malaysian Tamils, Bangladeshi Hindus, Iraqi Chaldeans, Syriac Christians, Copts, Maronites, et al have nothing to do with the Cowboys and Indians, er Native Americans. So quit trying to portray this as a purely American problem.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 22, 2006 4:14 PM

On another note, I have been opposed to the use of euphamistic terms like Islamist, Islamism, etc. One reason for that is illustrated above, when Mohammedan trolls like Sam/Khalid bin Waleed turn it around and use similarly meaningless adjectives like Americanist, Christianist, Bushist labels toget back. Just make it a vanilla Islam vs the Rest, and we'll be just fine.

Incidentally, what's with so many Islamic trolls like Sam/Khalid bin Waleed, lionheart, albion, norseman, John Howard (why not adapt the names Tony Blair or George Bush or Jacques Chirac or Vladimir Putin to make the same point, since they are a lot more subservient to Islam than is the Aussie PM)

Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 22, 2006 4:20 PM

"i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home,u went to america killed the red indians and stole their land and mde it your own..."
-- from a posting above

Erratum sheet:

For "you" read "Muslim Arabs"
For "u" read "they call Dar al-Islam"
For "america" read "large areas of the Middle East" and "North Africa" and "much of Asia, including Hindustan"
For "red indians" read "indigenous Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, and others"

Posted by: Hugh at June 22, 2006 4:20 PM

Sam, our new-found Mohammedan poster, is peddling Islamo-standard fare which is as common in the ME as couscous.

Looking for similarities, Sam? Are we?

Since the 'ummah' has conquered and stolen all the lands of north-Africa and keeps stealing land in Africa, in Asia and in Russia/Chechnya, there has to be something that makes us alike:

But "US-Imperialism" as compared to Arab-Imperialism, is hardly alike. "US-imperialsim" is a fantasy product of yesterdays failed commies and todays Arabs.

Arabs have nothing to give, they rape and pilfer and produce nothing, ever. They never will...

Everyone in the world buys US products voluntarily, but why do I bother? Its really not worth to counter 'Sam's' absurd Mohammedan drivel.

There is NOTHING that Arabs and Mohammedans have ever contributed to make this world a better place, that is plain obvious and needs no explanations. Islam has NO place in the west and the sooner we start shipping the Mohammedan spook out, the better for all of us...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 22, 2006 4:26 PM

sam wrote: "To those who say america has never been an imperialist nation. ur country was built on collaborative imperialism. i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home..."

Sam, Sam, Sam...or should I type sam, sam, sam..?

Allow me to give you a dose of greymatter for a second. There are hardly any persons in the entire world that are truly natives of the lands they inhabit, with notable exceptions being Africans, at least according to most of the documented anthropology that I have read.

Your sad, little argument is also so full of hypocrisy that it's laughable. How many nations now occupied by Muslim oppressors and majorities actually invited those Muslims in? Syria? No. Lebanon? No. Libya? No. Egypt? No. Pakistan? No. Bosnia? No.

History is a series of human conquests, do you not understand even this most basic of points? I would not ask the Chinese to remove themselves from the Native American blood line anymore than I would ask countless Europeans to retract their heritage and leave the United States, for you see, not even the Native Americans were actually "native" to North America.

But, unlike so many of the Muslim immigrants (i.e. invaders) in Europe and the United States and Canada and Australia today, the Europeans were BORN in Europe, the Americans born in America, the Australians born in Australia, etc.. The Muslims were born in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Iran and on and on.

So, who are the new colonialists? Who are the bearers of the torch of Muhammad to foreign lands?

Muslims are the invaders today. The difference is, you will be pushed back. Islam does not have the metal or the guns to win this fight. You also do not even have the cunning that you believe you do, for you see, you are opposed in ways that you do not even begin to grasp. Westerners can be quite tricky when we need to be.

Now, please, go read some books and come back here when you can at least stand on two feet in an argument.

Foehammer

PS Norseman is what he is. I'm not even sure what, but he amuses me, and that matters for something, I suppose.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 4:34 PM

"Mohammedan spook out"

What a refreshing idea!

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at June 22, 2006 4:36 PM

Yasser Ghalban!!!!

I would kiss you if you were not already dead. You stated your goals better then anyone! Its a global war against the non-islamic peoples...Indians, Israel, USA, Europe, Russia, Africans and others who see a world different from Islam. I guess all those who want to aid Hamas should perhap reconsider....

Although the funny part is Hamas cannot even run or control the weak little area they have. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Considering the man who said the above statements was killed by his own...

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at June 22, 2006 4:39 PM

Infidel Pride asked:
Incidentally, what's with so many Islamic trolls like Sam/Khalid bin Waleed, lionheart, albion, norseman, John Howard (why not adapt the names Tony Blair or George Bush or Jacques Chirac or Vladimir Putin to make the same point, since they are a lot more subservient to Islam than is the Aussie PM)

I'd say it's sure evidence that Jihad Watch has the Muslim "moderates" a little nervous.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 4:40 PM

I thought we all agreed that there were no Muslim 'moderates'. Your breaking my heart!

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at June 22, 2006 4:49 PM

I personally wish we had more muslim appologists I love it when they show up with their Islamic propaganda and PC and multicultural psychosis.

Their is nothing more satisfying than watching them be crushed by objective evidence and logical arguments.

Sam please keep posting and could you also ask any of your delusional collegues to do the same, I dont have much to do today so would appreciate any fresh trolls you can send this way.

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 4:49 PM

I don't think Norseman is a "Muslim moderate". I think he is just an Infidel with a taste for heavy irony.

I should add that I'm not actually Japanese. I just like old black-and-white films.

Perhaps one of us should choose the name "Saladin", if Couer de Lion's namesake is an Islamist poster. But, try as we might, none of us will ever beat "Wild Slutty Womens" as a posting name.

Posted by: Yojimbo at June 22, 2006 4:53 PM

Speaking of irony, if Wild Slutty Womens happens to be a man, we've scaled the pinacle.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 22, 2006 5:05 PM

"Salvation will come from the Bible Belt, from people of faith, from conservatives, from home-schooled, principled, courageous, uncompromising individuals." US_infidel

Not a chance in hell. If they have their way we will be fighting with swords or sticks soon.

Sort of like that good christian baptist rev. from Kansas who stated before the Kansas board of education that gravity was the "hand of god" holding men down and empirical knowledge is not as important as spritual knowledge????

Thats why Islam was winning for its first 1,000 years of existance until those rational scientific folks (we still accept god...rational god) started making all those neat weapons that broke those muslims.

We did it once...we will do it again.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at June 22, 2006 5:06 PM

If Naseem has her way an imam will "beat wild slutty womens"!

Posted by: MP at June 22, 2006 5:18 PM

Mmmmm...... Daisy Dukes 'n tube tops!

Posted by: MP at June 22, 2006 5:21 PM

you fools, u say that using nuclear weapons on civilian targets in japan was justified, as it saved more lives, let me ask you this if the roles were reversed and japan nuked you, what would u say to this argument that sayy killing 500000 innocent civilains is justified. no you hypocrites if the roles were reversed to this day you would despise the japs. whats wrong with that video, it is either a jews using deceit as always, or if it really is muslims, than whats wrong, u lot are the one talking about a war, so whats wrong with the oppressed training their children so that they may fight their oppressors

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 5:23 PM

Sam, like so many who share his views, is simply too illiterate to take seriously. Even were he sympathetic to majority opinion here and posting likeminded comments, I'd tune him out after reading a couple posts.

Personally, I am uninterested in the views of anyone who is too lazy or dense to aquire fundamental language skills before he sets himself the task of educating the rest of us.

If middle school English is a challenge for you, Sam, no wonder you don't have a coherent thought now and then. I'll let you in on a little secret about which you are evidently unaware: no one cares what dumb asses think.

Posted by: Haid Dasalami at June 22, 2006 5:24 PM

hmmmm.........me thinks I smell a troll!

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at June 22, 2006 5:25 PM

What do you care who we nuked, the Japanese are our friends they got over it, so should you. You want to see oppression watch us send islam to its grave. You will be looking so hard for allies you will beg the Jews to help you. Please, help tell the Americans to stop killing us, wah, wah, wah.

Posted by: Ronin at June 22, 2006 5:26 PM

whats wrong with the oppressed training their children so that they may fight their oppressors.........above poster

Use your gray matter. I know you have some. Think about that sentence.

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 5:30 PM

Ditto my comments above for salahudin. It's an epidemic. They breed like viruses.

Posted by: Haid Dasalami at June 22, 2006 5:34 PM

Have you been to Japan, have you spoken to people, the ones who lost families or have relatives who are deformed. Seriously dont think anyone outside of USA(United Sadistic ASSHOLES) are actually your friends, the jews use you, and the rest only go along to with your political garbage to save them selves

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 5:35 PM

Have you been to Japan, have you spoken to people, the ones who lost families or have relatives who are deformed. Seriously dont think anyone outside of USA(United Sadistic ASSHOLES) are actually your friends, the jews use you, and the rest only go along to with your political garbage to save them selves

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 5:35 PM

its a question, which is what its supposed to be, 4got the? sorry

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 5:37 PM

As you can see above:

Mohammedans are all clones of each other...

It is true: The Koran stifles mental growth...

Here is another troll parroting OBL's Bulls*#t about the US nuking Japan.

Do you have a mandate to speak for the Japanese, troll?

Have you ever been to Japan?

Have you ever met a Jew?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 22, 2006 5:40 PM

Yes, I have been to Japan and yes several told me they understood why we did it and one old lady kissed me and hugged me, she lost almost her entire family. The Japanese don't have any large groups of nut jobs looking for revenge, sorry charlie.

Here is the problem with fighting Americans. We are a relatively young country, always scrapping with someone and we have fought some real warrior cultures. The Indians (Native Americans), The British, The Germans, The Japanese, the Vietnamese (and a few others) all gave us a respectable fight. Here is the “but”. Only one Nation routinely fought us and won, only one matched us blow for blow, only one almost beat us in a long bloody, drawn out, in the trenches, all out war. Only one, the Confederate states of America, what made them different? Oh, yeah, they were Americans also. Hmmm me sees a pattern here.

Posted by: Ronin at June 22, 2006 5:41 PM

salabimbim:

Have you ever been to the ME?

Have you seen the masses of fanatical, inbred and deformed Mohammedans on Koran rage or cartoon-rage???

Have you been to Iran to see the Mohound spew hatred?

Have you been to SA to listen to Sheik Quaradwi? Or have you been 'educated' at Al Azhar 'university?'

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 22, 2006 5:44 PM

Salad in, if the Japanese are so bitter about being nuked, than why are their troops there along side ours in Iraq? They seem to have moved on fine. Personally, I don't get involved with trying to justify or condemn the nuking of japan, but your namesake Salad in seemed to have no qualms with firebombing Jerusalem, killing countless women and children in the process.

Now can someone clue me in, what does the bombing of Japan have to do with this thread?

Hugh and/or Robert et al, dosn't bringing up unrelated topics in order to try to create some sort of strawman arguement constitute trolling?

Posted by: Abu Allah at June 22, 2006 5:46 PM

Yes, that's it. They're trolls. I'll bet they're hideously ugly.

Posted by: Haid Dasalami at June 22, 2006 5:49 PM

i think your are delluded, it was the crusaders(known today as democratic christian extremist) who killed civilians, this is common knowledge.
Are you also going to argue the facts of the crusades

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 5:51 PM

sala,

Regarding the facts of the Crusades, read Robert's P.I.G. to Islam and the Crusades, if you can stomach it.

Posted by: Matt at June 22, 2006 5:53 PM

You have to love Muslim logic or lack of it I should say.

whats wrong with that video, it is either a jews using deceit as always, or if it really is muslims, than whats wrong, u lot are the one talking about a war, so whats wrong with the oppressed training their children so that they may fight their oppressors
Posted by: salahudin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 05:23 PM

I particularly like the statement I highlighted above.

Lets get one thing straight salahudin, it is the Koran and Mohammed (pigs blood be upon him) that talk of war,

Excerpt K 9:029 Fight those who do not believe in Allah...nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. [4.75] ...fight in the way of Allah... [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Satan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Satan... [4.77] ...when fighting is prescribed for them...Our Lord! why hast Thou ordained fighting for us?...

[2.190] ...fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

We in the west are just responding to your naked aggression. Like we did with the crusades and like my friend Ronin says above;

You want to see oppression watch us send islam to its grave. You will be looking so hard for allies you will beg the Jews to help you. Please, help tell the Americans to stop killing us, wah, wah, wah.

I also like the immediate fall back of 'it must be the Jews' who perpetrated that sick video. Why can't Muslims ever take responsibility for their own actions and the actions of their co-religionists.

Oh yeah I know why its because 99% of Muslims are liars, cheats, cowards and have no morals other than those medieval o9nes imprinted on them from birth via the Koran and Hadith.

Please post more of your lame moral equivalence arguments, I need a good laugh.

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 5:54 PM

I have read a lot about the crusades and the truth is, it was a good start.

Posted by: Ronin at June 22, 2006 5:56 PM

So there we have it from the mouth of a troll. It's about the conduct of the Second World War.

The connection is mystifying. Evidently, Muslims intend to conquer the whole world for their horrible backward religio-political system and "rule the nations" as a protest against the type of weapons used when victory was achieved by the allies over Japan.

It's puzzling to know why they were pursuing this horrible aim for the previous 14 centuries when such a motive had yet to emerge.

It's puzzling what this would have to do with the state of Israel, which had not even been founded at the time.

And it's even more puzzling when one remembers that the Japanese, who are supposed to be providing the ostensible excuse for Islamic Imperialism, were, in fact, assisting the coalition forces in Iraq.

Posted by: Yojimbo at June 22, 2006 5:57 PM

To those who say america has never been an imperialist nation. ur country was built on collaborative imperialism. i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home,u went to america killed the red indians and stole their land and mde it your own, this is the foundation of your nation, maybe u should look at your selves.

posted by: sam
STFW, every piece of soil on this planet has been ruled over by a lot of different races and kinds of people. Did you know oh wise muslim that there were white people in China in pre-history? The earth is eons old and humanity is a wandering sort of entity. No where on earth can be claimed as your and only your land. GTFOI.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at June 22, 2006 6:00 PM

Did you guys notice?

Sam suddenly became salahudin. Exact same writing.

Posted by: Gary at June 22, 2006 6:00 PM

With all their military might, America have proved that weapons dont win wars, the people using them do. When we talk of all the great wars and military achievements we often think of situations where the weakest in numbers and artiliary have overcome, eg hannibal, Muhammad(saw) and the four rightly guided caliphs. WHAT HAVE AMERICA DONE, THEY FIGHT THE POOR AND THOSE WHO CANNOT MATCH THEIR MILITARY MIGHT(WHY DO U THINK THERE STAYING AWAY FROM KOREA) EVEN WITH ALL THEIR TECHNOLOGY THEY CANNOT BEAT THE BRAVE AND COURAGOUS AFGHAN AND IRAQI FREEDOM FIGHTERS AND LAND PROTECTORS. SO PLEASE YOUR COUNTRY HAS THE WEAPONS, BUT NOT THE BRAINS.
Also many empires have come and gone and soon yours will to,

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 6:03 PM

I was being ironic, thus "moderates" was in quotations. Have no fear; I am still me.

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 6:05 PM

WHY DO U THINK THERE STAYING AWAY FROM KOREA)

Bwhahahaha!

Saddam had the 4th largest army in the world, and we blew it away in a few weeks!

You think we're worried about the 5th

Posted by: Gary at June 22, 2006 6:06 PM

Largest?

Gah. How'd that happen?

Posted by: Gary at June 22, 2006 6:07 PM

Salad in, nobody said that the Crusaders never killed civilians. But it is also an undisputed fact that your namesake firebombed Jerusalem killing countless women and children. That was the point I was making vis-a-vis your crocodile tears for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

But this is the real difference between you and us. You are still stuck in the 11th century while we are looking toward the 22nd. Muslims are obsessed about the Crusades, and idolize the jihadists involved in those wars while most westerners don't really relate to either side of that ancient conflict, and are generally ambivalent to the subject at large.

Posted by: Abu Allah at June 22, 2006 6:08 PM

We all know if the muslims had developed nukes and not us they would have never used them because it might offend other cultures (Sarcasm off.

Here is reality ackmed, build all you can, we will still have more. Yes, we used them before and yes we can do it again, anytime we want too. Stick that in your hooka. You claim you are going to dominate, start now, get your sand covered butt to iraq. Stop arguing with me and the other posters; go jihad. Nah, you’re just another coward who believes he can be a mujahid by blogging, gimmie a break, all the brave muslims are dead. They died screaming for their mammas in fallujah. At least they tried; I can respect that. “I’m a cyber mujahid” look at me the mighty salad bowl hero of islam. Get a real job, earn some money move to iraq and face real men.

Posted by: Ronin at June 22, 2006 6:08 PM

salahudin:

Once again, a tired argument based on an unrealistic and entirely unlikely "flipping" of sides -- this time the atomic bombs dropped on Japan.

For one thing, if anyone ever nuked (or nukes) the United States, I doubt you'd hear too much crying by Americans. The retaliatory bomb blasts would be too deafening.

You'd (and I'm assuming perhaps too quickly that you are a Muslim) better think really hard on who you are dealing with. We aren't the Japanese, we aren't the Germans, we aren't the Romans, we aren't the Greeks or the Persians or ancient Byzantine.

We are the United States of America, and "we've been kicking ass for 200 years!" (With my apologies to Bill Murray.)

You see, I don't have to be nice about this. I only have to be right. (With thanks again to Sir Winston.)

Posted by: Foehammer at June 22, 2006 6:12 PM

Folks, we got a troll onboard, sam has changed his name to salahudin.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at June 22, 2006 6:12 PM

Let’s give sam/salad a break, you want to defend, muslims and we have established the fact you are scared to face American warriors, face to face, no cowardice in that, you have strong survival instincts. Here is a solution: the biggest killers of muslims are other muslims. We can’t have that, you must hunt one down and punish him or her, mohammad would command you too if he were real. Still, you can do this, pick a small one or an older one, easier to handle. Drop back by sometime and let us know how it worked out for ya.

Posted by: Ronin at June 22, 2006 6:20 PM

I like Infidel Pride's idea above: take the kaaba. No need to bomb, much less nuke it. It would be a cakewalk to take and a peice of piss for any Western army to defend. Hell, there's backwater militias in the US who could hold it indefinitely singlehanded. The landscape is nice and flat, the compound is big enough to garrison a few battalions, easy to fly in support and supplies... then just sit back and wait for the faithful to come and make their last Hadj.

Some conditions for it's release might be:

Voluntary withdrawal of the ummah form all dar al-harb, including Israel

Unconditional recognition of the divinity of all other, real religions

Formal declaration abrogating all totalitarian, militarist, fascist and racist doctrines

Constitutional reformation of all dar al-islam acknowledging equality of rights for all citizens of all creeds and cultures in islamic jurisdiction

Full recompense paid to Western countries for services rendered in liberating the ummah from their own self-destructive ideology - however long it takes them to pay it off. That'll give them some motivation to develop real industries and viable economies. Just for starters.

Posted by: Animus at June 22, 2006 6:21 PM

This just in: Allah has commanded all muslims to return to the middle eastern country of their choice as fast as possible for a series of very important seminars on how to turn sand into glass. Refreshments and a stupendous fireworks show will follow the seminars.

Posted by: dms at June 22, 2006 6:22 PM

Stuck in the crusades...stuck in WWII.....stuck in the 7th century.

This is why muslims will always be backward.

Look into yourselves and find out why you hate the Jews and Infidels so much. And when you come to the conclusion that it's just jealousy eating at your souls.......GET OVER IT!!!!

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 6:23 PM

"War is deceit.." said Mohammed, and Mohammedans try to follow in his tracks.

The above Salat-troll actually seems to lack the IQ to deceive anyone:

".. THEY FIGHT THE POOR AND THOSE WHO CANNOT MATCH THEIR MILITARY MIGHT.."

Ever ask yourself why Mohammedans are stupid and poor? Could it be because of Islam? Ever ask yourself why Mohammedans cannot develop anything let alone weapons?

Anyhow, this site is called "Jihad watch" for a reason. It is not called "USA-watch" or "Nuking Japan watch", all the crap salatroll posted is off topic and doesn't belong here.

But then again it just shows just how queer and bizarre the Mohammedan deceives himself...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 22, 2006 6:27 PM

What a hoot it would be if Naseem, Sam, and John Howard ever post on the same article. It might melt the internet and lock every server from Honolulu to Hong Kong (going east).

Posted by: Pelayo at June 22, 2006 6:27 PM

EVEN WITH ALL THEIR TECHNOLOGY THEY CANNOT BEAT THE BRAVE AND COURAGOUS AFGHAN AND IRAQI FREEDOM FIGHTERS AND LAND PROTECTORS.

Posted by: salahudin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 06:03 PM

Some technology in action for you Salahudin.

http://xrl.us/oorahh

Why arent you over there showing us how brave and mighty Islam is.

Maybe its because it is easier to stay home and beat your wife while being protected by the West's PC brigade

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 6:29 PM

Let’s see how this works, muslims who post here use these arguments:

-It is your own fault (sometimes switched to the Israelis fault)
-We are a poor oppressed people.
-Only a small percentage if us go bad.
-We will win in the end because god said so.
-You don’t respect or understand us.

And my all time favorite,
-We demand Ronin assume his duty as the true Caliph. (Ok, I made the last one up but it is a solution)

I here by issue a new fatwa, “don’t post unless you come up with original material” you are starting to be a bore.

Posted by: Ronin at June 22, 2006 6:31 PM

Form Sammi's use of the term "arse", as opposed to the more common, less formal "ass", one can surmise two points:

1) Sammi has "arses" on his mind.

2) Sammi is/was/will be British.

The former is forgivable, but the latter just reinforces the stereotypical effeminacy of British manhood, and that pisses me right off. I suppose repressed white "arse" joins the BNP, and repressed brown "arse" joins the islamic alternative. I think Sammi needs to get his alternative arse ironed out and face up to a few dificult issues...

Posted by: Animus at June 22, 2006 6:33 PM

At first, watching the “dead man” talking in the video was quite scary. But soon I couldn’t help but enjoy some of the biggest belly laughs I’ve ever had this year. The dead man looked like a bum, and talked like a bum. You find a guy like him everywhere in the world. Yes, Islam is dangerous! But for the moment, Islam is ridiculous! :-)

"The worst of the time, the best of the time." Mark Twain

Posted by: brooklyn_guy at June 22, 2006 6:35 PM

Lovely rant.

Why was he bouncing around in bed? Odd ryhthm.

Posted by: witness at June 22, 2006 6:44 PM

"OUR MAN IN KABUL",

Hamid Karzai, complains that the US is killing "too many freedom fighters..."
"..Taliban are sons of this country.." he sez
(sounds like "cockroaches can also be pets"...)

"just give us more money..."
(He is always concerned about money, our man in Kabul...)

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/world/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 22, 2006 6:47 PM

This thread is proof that Islam causes brain damage and/or appeals to the already brain-damaged.

Posted by: infidel4life at June 22, 2006 6:56 PM

Hamid Karzai, complains that the US is killing "too many freedom fighters..."
"..Taliban are sons of this country.." he sez
(sounds like "cockroaches can also be pets"...)

Karzai's brother has an Afghan restaurant here in SF, I had dinner there not so long ago. Some of the staff were Mujahideen, it was a surreal experience.

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 7:06 PM

sam, salahudin, whoever else.

You're deluded and I think it's hilarious. Again we see the witless remarks of close-minded bigoted people who immediately throw up "Jew!" or "Zionist!" as their answer to everything and would try to cloud the issue with their 'reality-altering' Islamic abilities.

The issue really, from the beginning of this thread, was the comment from the article above stating that 'Islam will conquer US and Britain.' To issue such a statement is quite ballsy, but deluded. It does, however, work against Islam's cause because it helps to make those who aren't aware of the crisis the modern world is facing to take notice. There are many who are unaware of the history of Islam, but there are many, many more now who are more educated on the subject and aware of what Sharia law means to those living under it.

We're also more aware of Islam's intentions of ruling the world. There was a time before 911 when the phrases 'religion of peace' was spoken and not laughed about as it is now. We've seen your version of peace, and for those of us in the US who have led lives free of hatred of others and know what peace really means, we can't help but laugh at your kind. We've all witnessed children having temper tantrums and when you take to the streets to riot over cartoons ...well, you're simply children who weren't raised properly. Your Muhammad is a very bad parent.

While we here in America may feel guilt for the Native Americans who were here before us, let's admit that guilt is a two-way street and if you can show none for your bloody conquests of the past, then why should we? For the one race we've brought to the brink of destruction, your religious fervor has destroyed countless others and, to add insult to injury, has wiped out any and all relics and evidence of its existence. Where's the guilt? Don't try using that argument -you'll lose. In fact, you can blame yourself for the plight of the Native Americans because your religious zealots of the time forced Christopher Columbus to find another way around the Barbary Coast to India in order to avoid the pirating barbarians in order to trade. You've done nothing but create your worst enemies over and over. Congratulations, dipsh*t.

If Hamas (or Islam as a whole) thinks that they can conquer the US and Britain, they're going to be sorely disappointed. The truth of history speaks endlessly to the atrocities committed by Islam and the modern day bile-spewing 'religious experts', the examples of inequality of women, beheadings, torture, and dismemberment of human beings in the Islamic-controlled parts of the world does very little to further the cause of the 'religion of peace' and does everything to fuel the fires slowly building in the minds, hearts, and guts of the western world. Polls prove that Islam is being viewed more negatively now than ever before, so all I can say is that you should continue pouting, shaking your fists at the sky, and continue being the rotten little brats that you are.

Knock down 2 of our buildings and take a chunk out of the Pentagon and your reward is Afghanistan and Iraq both being knocked down, the leadership being toppled, chaos, ruin, and more pouting on your part. Keep it up. Next time you p*ss us off, we may do worse.

Go on. Keep it up. We've got plenty of weapons, a lot of technology, and we're just itching to have a place to try out our newest gadgets. Maybe we'll have some really nifty way of melting your brains and putting you out of your misery without so much mess.

Posted by: illustr8rg8r at June 22, 2006 7:07 PM

I just wonder what they would do if we untied the hands of the Israelis??

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/729513.html
09:03 22/06/2006
Nephew of Fatah strongman Dahlan injured in Gaza car explosion
By Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondent

was waiting for the press to report this after all it was a mulsum killing another mulsum!!!

sheik yer'mami

He also said that the #2[YELLOW CURSED TO ALL WHO FOLLOW HIM] was the enemy of the Afghani People and at least the Afghani People are fighting these monsters which keep leading back to the palis

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunetr
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fights with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat give the World Courage to Stand Together o Destroy these Monsters Amen

Posted by: Catherine at June 22, 2006 7:11 PM

What the usa is doing now is infinitly worse than 9/11 and 7/7, and only a hypocrite wont accept that. I mean at least the muslim terrorist dont lie about what their doing and the reasons for it, unlike GW bUSh(piss be upon him) who lies to his people, thus showing a lack of respect for his own people.
Mr Bush says that he is all for democracy and has shown he will kill 10s of thousands for his cause(errrmm similar to bin laden,) yet he shakes the hands and turns a blind eye to the evils of the dictators in egypt and pakistan, why because he really only wants control of muslim lands, by having subserviant leaders there, regardless of majority view.
BY THE WAY DOESNT SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE A DIRECT LINE WITH GOD, AND CLAIMS THAT GOD IS TELLING HIM TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, CLASSIFY AS A RELIGIOUS EXTREMSIT

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 7:11 PM

salad troll-

Did you know......that all the bullets we use over in your neck of the woods....the metal jackets...are annealed in pig blood. Wanna see?

hava a nice jihad, salad shooter, and remember to grease your beard with muhammed brand pork chops.
toodles, I'm off to have a nice BLT.

Posted by: jamsler at June 22, 2006 7:13 PM

Yes Pelayo, it's one of my minor pet peeves.

Km...

Are you going to go back to that restaurant?

I stopped going to a couple of my favorite places because they had hired "mujideens". I get really aggravated at the nasty looks they give.

Posted by: freewoman at June 22, 2006 7:16 PM

Dont get me wrong im not a hypocrite, muslims commit crimes, and that means they have broken the rules of islam. I was born in England and i would protect my homeland against any unjust invaders, if i knew of a terrorist cell about to launch attacks in England i would try to stop it.
If Tony Blair got his face off of Bushes ass and Bush decided we needed a regime change i would fight to my death.
But above all else i am a Muslim, who is not blinded by either anti or pro islamic propoganda.

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 7:18 PM

BY THE WAY DOESNT SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE A DIRECT LINE WITH GOD, AND CLAIMS THAT GOD IS TELLING HIM TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, CLASSIFY AS A RELIGIOUS EXTREMSIT
Posted by: salahudin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 07:11 PM

You must be speaking about Mohammed (Pigspiss be upon him).

Posted by: km at June 22, 2006 7:18 PM

Folks, we got a troll onboard, sam has changed his name to salahudin. Posted by: bigcatgirl13106

Mohammedan,

Japan has been lucky to never come under the rule of Islam. In fact, that's one of the reasons they are #2 in the world. And Shintoism, for all its shortcomings, is way better than Islam - I'd worship Emperor Akihito or Emperor Hirohito anyday before I even honor Mohammed.

Quit talking about Hiroshima or Nagasaki - those are partly the reason that the Japanese are as civilized as they