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And why not? After all, Hitler visited Austria after the Anchluss. Of course, Ahmadinejad may be jumping the gun a bit as far as that is concerned, but he is certainly doing all he can to bring into being a Shi'ite client state in Iraq. From Iran Focus, with thanks to JE:
Tehran, Iran, Jun. 27 – Iran’s hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will soon travel to Baghdad to meet and hold talks with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, the government-run news agency Fars reported on Monday.The report quoted an “informed source” as saying that Ahmadinejad would hold talks with several top Iraqi officials.
He would lead a large delegation to Baghdad, the report said, adding that several political and economic agreements would be signed between the two states during his trip.
Posted by Robert at June 27, 2006 7:04 AM
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Hmmm...are we going to have someone in these meetings to hear what Ahmadinejad has to say (or offer)?
Posted by: freewoman
at June 27, 2006 7:20 AM
If this report is true, then the day that monster comes to Baghdad should be the day that the US troops begin a massave pullout. It is nothing short of insane to protect and pay for a government who welcomes another government whose stated goal is the destruction of the US.
Posted by: maryrose
at June 27, 2006 7:29 AM
Makes me proud to be an American -- to know that our brave men and women are dying for our freedom (never mind that fact that our borders have practically disappeared and we now have a Mexican Port of Entry -- in Kansas City!); to preserve the Constitution of the United States (never mind that fact that nearly every one in the Judical, Legislative, and especially the Executive branch are bent on destroying the Constitution through legislation) and that our brave men and women committed to serving their country have helped to establish an islamic Shi'ite client state in Iraq
And the proudest part of all -- it was my taxmoney that financed this venture!
Thanks George. Say why don't you take an extended vacation in Iran after you leave office!
I'll have a jet waiting to drop you off over the Middle-Eastern country of your choice; or do you prefer Mexico City?
Hey? Does anyone remember the names of the two Americans soldiers who were hacked to pieces last week?
Anyone? They had names you know -- just like the one killed at the checkpoint!
Awe forget about -- go back to your damn sports channels!
Posted by: witness
at June 27, 2006 7:55 AM
Sometimes I think that zone has gone mad. First mahmoud talks about 'wiping off the map'. Then he says 'evil tyranny'. Then he goes on a travelling spree. Indonesia, china and now iraq. Writing letters frantically right and left. (Probably threw one down the well too. Along with a courier. Or maybe he threw a fax machine down and just sent a fax on it.) Reading about the stuff coming from that place makes my head spin.
Posted by: arjun.sevak
at June 27, 2006 7:58 AM
Look on the bright side. This disturbs Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, the Al-Thani in Qatar, the Al-Sabah in Kuwait, the Al-Maktoum and others in the U.A.E. It worries Egypt and Jordan. And right now, I'm sure, Adnan Pachachi is carefully confiding to some American journalist that "you Americans will have to stay here to make sure that the Shi'a arc does not destroy all of us. You Americans should have understood that the Sunnis needed to control Iraq precisely because of Iran. You Americans...."
And there will be those in Washington, possibly the very same people who were so eager to believe all those advanced Iraqi Shi'as in exile, about what would happen in Iraq, what could happen in Iraq, if only the Americans came in, from the mafekiing and merrymaking ("The liberation of Baghdad will make the liberation of Kabul look like a funeral procession" -- Bernard Lewis, 2002) to the eternal friendship that would naturally spring up between "Iraqis" and Americans, to the way that the Sunnis within Iraq would gracefully accept their new status and yield to the far more numerous Shi'a, to the way that Sunnis outside Iraq would be so impressed with the new, Infidel-supported and Infidel-financed Shi'a-dominated Iraq that they would hasten to emulate it.
Shi'a Jive had its turn. Now it's time for the Sunni Jive, to all those visitors, including Ted Koppel for NPR, Madeline Albright, and others famous for believing, for taking at face value, for not seeing through, what they are told by this or that confiding Arab leader or analyst.
Posted by: Hugh
at June 27, 2006 7:59 AM
I agree with Maryrose, I see nothing but bad news with a visit by a man who vows to wipe Israel and other non believers off the face of the planet with the nuclear bombs he says he has (or will have shortly), made with the nuclear equipment he says is used only for electricity for his people.
Sounds like he wants to merge with Iraq (I suspect the Iraqi government would be a willing partner with Iran).
If so, we should consider removing our forces and just station a couple of boomer subs nearby ready to unload a salvo of American technology if they decide to continue to misbehave and refuse to become a contributing partner to the world community.
We are in a world war and it is time we treat it as such.
at June 27, 2006 8:00 AM
Heck, I'll spring for a private jet for "Ted Koppel for NPR, Madeline Albright, and others famous"... to the nafarious ports of call of their respective choices!
All one way trips of course! May the go the way of those three soldiers as far as I'm concerned!
And "Jorge" Bush may not need to go to Mexico City after all; he is determined to bring Mexico City to Washington D.C. and has already done it with Kansas City!
Now what were those names again ... PFCs...who? Not much of a fuss in the media in general.
Pardon me, but I feel a bit PO'ed over this issue; my apologies.
Posted by: witness
at June 27, 2006 8:20 AM
Youn guys worry too much. Admin a jihad is a nutcase. His agenda is stupid and he's alienating everyone; EU, US, UN, etc. He'll self destruct soon.
Posted by: Iraqnophobia2004
at June 27, 2006 8:21 AM
If iran's thug in chief does visit Iraq it will be interesting to see if he leaves alive. What has me most curious about the thug is does he have a martyr complex or is he just that positive his god will keep him safe no matter where he goes?
I can't see his visit as a good thing either for us, our allies or the sunni.
Posted by: fireangel
at June 27, 2006 8:25 AM
The new Baghdad government is also proposing an amnesty to the insurgents!
Most of them are directly associated with Iran!
As goofy as Ahmadinejad visit sounds -- it is a reasonable possibility given other factors!
Need I mention Afghanistan!? Do I really need to remind anyone that the "...Taliban dominates the southeast of the country at night and is fighting in the largest units it has deployed since the fall of the regime in 2001" according to some reports?
And Senator Lugar says of Iraq ..."Given current events in Baghdad ... quite apart from Anbar province, the violence is horrific."
Translation -- all is not good in River City!
The new Baghdad government may feel that Ahmadinejad has more power to bring the insurgents to heel than a PC Army of nation builders funded by American taxpayers!
Now again -- what in blazes were the names of those American soldiers butchered last week!
I'm gonna fire someone this morning -- so help me!
Posted by: witness
at June 27, 2006 8:46 AM
Thomas Tucker and Kristian Menchaca, of the 101st Airborne Division !!!!!
Pay attention! There's gonna be a quiz!
at June 27, 2006 9:50 AM
C'mon! C'mon!
Who was the third soldier!!
Stop stalling!
Posted by: witness
at June 27, 2006 9:54 AM
Khamenei: 'No nuclear talks with the US'
Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has rejected the prospect of talks with the United States on the nuclear program, saying nothing would be gained, state television reported Tuesday. (THEN BOMB THEM NOW!...DONT WAIT FOR 30,000 DEAD JEWS IN ISRAEL! http://www.jpost.com/
at June 27, 2006 9:54 AM
There's another bright side to this besides what Hugh mentioned: When al-Zarqawi was killed, one of the documents we captured was a message from him to his followers, in which he admitted that his (Sunni) insurgency was losing. And that their best hope of turning things around was to embroil the U.S. with Iran, which would draw the Shi'a and Sunni forces closer together against the U.S.
But if Iran and the Shi'a in Iraq can normalize relations, and the U.S. can keep its cool for a while with Iran, then the Sunni insurgency in Iraq may finally be defeated. And it's the Sunni insurgency in Iraq, not the Shi'a gunmen, who have been giving our troops the hardest time.
at June 27, 2006 10:05 AM
Steven L ...Khamenei: 'No nuclear talks with the US'
Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has rejected the prospect of talks with the United States on the nuclear program, saying nothing would be gained,..........I WILL TAKE A FEW SUNNI GUNMEN OVER A NUKE ANYDAY....IRAN IS WAITING FOR A DEMON WHO WILL ONLY SHOW UP AMID CHAOS....LIKE A NUKE ON ISRAEL......IRAN HAS ALWAY BEEN THE THREAT!
at June 27, 2006 10:12 AM
Does anyone believe the rumor that is floating around, that Iran helped Jordan to inform the US where Zarqawi was so we could bomb his butt? It is a ver interesting concept.
The rumor goes that Iran assisted us and that we then backed off on our rigid demands that Iran stop it's nuclear program.
I find that hard to believe.
Posted by: Deborah Hamilton
at June 27, 2006 10:36 AM
Hugh wrote: "This disturbs Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, the Al-Thani in Qatar, the Al-Sabah in Kuwait, the Al-Maktoum and others in the U.A.E. It worries Egypt and Jordan."
You sure got that right.
By the time that lot starts whining for US support, the American people will have had enough of spending billions and blood to save seditious allies. The US government will be forced to wave their hands in the air and proclaim, "There is nothing we can do" BUT "We will help you create a technological defensive/offensive grid that may just save your worthless butts."
Just watch the new Cold War heat up.
CD 'Bar' Baric
Posted by: blazar-jet
at June 27, 2006 10:43 AM
Witness
I think americaningermany is right. It might be a good trade - Jorge W in exchange for 12m (depending on what # one believes) undocumented Mexicans.
Tom Tancredo was on H&C last night, and will be on Cavuto today, plugging his new book. He tried to talk about the clash of civilizations (he may have been getting to Islam, but he primarily talked about Western Civilization vs. multiculturalism). At one point, Colmes asked him whether he'd campaign alongside the prez.
His response was classic. He stated that since he and the prez were far apart on almost every issue, he saw no reason that the prez would want to campaign with him. Colmes then laid it in by stating that he actually agrees w/ the prez on this issue.
With endorsements like that, Jorge might want to follow the examples of Jeffords and Ventura, and switch parties. The Move-On crowds and the Dailykos crowds would still hate him, but the GOP could revert to becoming the party of sanity.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at June 27, 2006 10:45 AM
"the Sunni insurgency in Iraq may finally be defeated. And it's the Sunni insurgency in Iraq, not the Shi'a gunmen, who have been giving our troops the hardest time."
-- from a posting above
The Sunnis inside Iraq will never accept the diminished status that their numbers, and the behavior of past Sunni-dominated regimes, will cause the Shi'a and the Kurds to insist that they must accept. Active fighting may die down now, especially if the Americans are doing the suppressing, as they are, but once the Americans leave, and it becomes clear that no "Iraqi" government can conceivably satisfy both the Sunni and the Shi'a Arabs, or both the Arabs and the Kurds, and with the methods of warfare -- militias in the night, bombs on the street or in the mosques -- having been introduced and here to stay, it is unlikely that "Iraq" will exist in peace. And the Sunnis outside Iraq will have a vested interest in supporting those inside, with money, volunteers, weaponry, and diplomatic assistance. Why would one expect them to do otherwise?
The only unknown is whether or not the Americans will now fall for the Sunni line that they, those Americans, have to remain in Anbar Province and Baghdad not so much to suppress, as to protect ("you brought the Shi'a to power, and now you have to protect the Sunnis -- you owe it to them") them. Some people will be dumb enough to find that line plausible.
Quiet in Iraq is not our goal. Weakening the camp of Islam is our goal. In Iraq, that goal is furthered by unmeetable Sunni demands, and Shi'a attempts, without the Americans any longer to impoose those Marquess-of-Queensberry rules, to deal with the Sunnis as the Sunnis would, and have, dealt with them. Outside support on both sides, and effects on Sunni-Shi'a relations outside Iraq, should hardly be cause for Infidel worry.
Posted by: Hugh
at June 27, 2006 10:51 AM
When Ahmadinejad arrives in Baghdad, we should arrest him.
Posted by: Foehammer
at June 27, 2006 2:12 PM
When Ahmadinejad arrives in Baghdad, we should arrest him.
Posted by: Foehammer
First, I doubt the coward will really go, he is just mad because President Bush has gone and he hasn't. With the skills of the shia he would probably hit one of the IED's he supplied the iraqis.
Posted by: Ronin
at June 27, 2006 5:59 PM
Ronin-
Can't we at least leak Mahmoud's flight plan and parade route to some Sunni insurgents?
Their welcoming committees are notoriously warm to their Shi'ite brothers.
Posted by: profitsbeard
at June 27, 2006 11:01 PM
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