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July 7, 2006

Ahmadinejad warns of Islamic 'explosion' over IDF raid in Gaza

1938 Alert from Haaretz:

TEHRAN - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned on Friday that continued Israeli strikes against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip could lead to an "explosion" in the Islamic world that would target Israel and its supporters in the West.
Again, Ahmadinejad questioned Israel's right to exist. "This is a fake regime ... it won't be able to survive. I think the only way [forward] is that those who created it [the West] take it away themselves," the president told a rally in Tehran in support of Palestinians.
Some 40 Palestinians and an Israel Defense Forces soldier have been killed since the IDF began operating in the Gaza Strip.
Ahmadinejad, who last year called for Israel to be "wiped off the map," has repeatedly voiced fiery rhetoric against Israel.
The Islamic republic's president joined thousands of demonstrators in the capital on Friday to condemn the Israeli strikes, and said Israel's Western supporters could be the target of revenge by Muslims.
"They should not let things reach a point where an explosion occurs in the Islamic world," he said.

... because that just never happens.

"If an explosion occurs, then it won't be limited to geographical boundaries. It will also burn all those who created [Israel] over the past 60 years," he said, implicitly referring to the United States and other Western nations who support Israel.

Posted by Marisol at July 7, 2006 3:49 PM
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F*** Ahmadicknijad!

Posted by: jawknee [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 3:57 PM

But he seems like such a nice guy? Why is the media so mum when it comes to these outbursts? Where has Sean Penn been lately after his diplomatic tour of Iran?

Answers to these and other Jihadist lunacies later today, while the other news is already up at The Dumb Ox... http://thomistic.blogspot.com

Posted by: Dumb Ox [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 4:02 PM

His rants on Israel dont concern me.

What I want to know is why the US government has not officially declared him a terrorist for his part in the US embassy seizure. That would have forced the US allies who have diplomatic ties with Iran to cease them.

Posted by: george_rem [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 4:05 PM

Is he serious? I mean, do you guys think, he would have enough fire power to cause any real damage to Israel? And if does and he choses to, then what should be Israel's response? It is surrounded by all these countries filled with these nut cases. I really admire the guts of Israelis to have survived this long living in the middle of arganisms whom I think of as a bounday between the living beings and non-living things.

Posted by: SafetyFirst [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 4:05 PM

I meant organisms. Sorry abt the mistake...

Posted by: SafetyFirst [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 4:06 PM

Would President Bush be so kind as to call his State Department liason in Geneva and have that person contact the Swiss so that they could forward a message from the President of the United States to the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran?

President Bush should call him on it: i.e; Start the explosion in the Islamic world. Just do it, don't write letters or make sweeping gestures at symposiums or more provocative statements for the world press. Just start the shit, President of Iran. Give us the excuse we need.

It would be very interesting to see how that sort of statement would affect the behavior of Iran and North Korea for that matter. They need to be called out on their words and deeds and need to be taken down a few notches.

I just found out today that South Korea has been helping North Korea with food. I understand why but I think that any aid to any tyrannical regime merely extends its time in power and prolongs the suffering of the people under its thumb.

The United States needs to become an exporter of revolution, not foreign aid. We need to stop supporting meglomaniacs and kleptocrats (with a tip of the hat to Hugh) and start getting serious about 'what we stand for' in this world.

Are we about Freedom and the Rights of Man and Dignity or are we really about international money markets, convenience and largesse?

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 4:22 PM

The danger is not just from Iran, but from a "coalition of the willing" among the axis of evil (which by the way includes ALL of the Islamic states and ALL of the Communist states) that could get the idea that the time is ripe for concerted action...

Posted by: Dumb Ox [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 4:38 PM

"They should not let things reach a point where an explosion occurs in the Islamic world,"
Aren't these idiots blowing themselves up anyway? What's one more suicide bomber "...in the Islamic world"?

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 4:40 PM

What do you expect, the man is a nutcase.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:00 PM

The following is from

http://www.geostrategy-direct.com/geostrategy%2Ddirect/

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Apocalyptic signals from Iran worry U.S. intelligence

The European Union and the United States demanded that Iran reply to the Western incentive package of nuclear technology, fuel and aircraft by June 29. But Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Teheran would submit an answer by Aug. 22. The U.S. intelligence community has been trying to figure out why Ahmadinejad chose that date. Sources said the community was stumped until some Islam experts translated the Gregorian date to that of the Muslim calendar.

****

Further details are for paying customers. Any have any idea what they're talking about?

Posted by: StillBreathing [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:03 PM

I think it's because the great mahdi is to return in the month of August.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:19 PM

Islamic "explosions" happen all the time, all over the world. Emotional explosions as well as explosives explosions. This "man" is making hollow threats. He's giving away ice in the winter.

Posted by: perpster [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:19 PM

The little man squawks again from Iran. he is about as short as the little man in N.Korea. Both are petulant and make more noise than what appears.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is too wimpy for an all out war from his country, but rather send in self bombing experts disguised as suicide bombers to do his dirty little work. his days are numbered!

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:20 PM

Freewoman - I agree - that's what I've seen as an explanation. Kind of like that like girl in 'The Ring' movies... the 12th Imam will crawl up out of the well when the Madhi returns mid-August.


Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:21 PM

StillBreathing - you are correct

The Iranian president is one of those that beleives the Mhadi (moslem messiah/khalif), will return in Mid August. In his eyes Iran will have to pave the way for his return by creating a war which will invoke the Mahdi to arrive and destroy thier enemies.

Iran should by then have enough material to make a nuke or two. They have the missiles already.

Mahamoud wants a war -

Posted by: Churchill1938 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:22 PM

If a nuke goes off in Israel, which arab countries are likely to get significant fallout?

Posted by: perpster [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:28 PM

an "explosion" in the Islamic world that would target Israel and its supporters in the West...

:0 Gracious sakes! Whatever shall we do? An expolsion in the islamic world!


Do you think that if we surrender right now, this minute, and become islamic; we'll get a better deal than if we wait til later?


My goodness -- what to do? what to do?

I got a better idea; one well placed round and...no more explosion. None. Not at all.

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:28 PM

MID - AUGUST EVERYONE

Buy fuel, food (tins), candles, and everything you need as it's gonna hit us hard.

Fuel prices will triple and we all should be prepared.

Make sure you have a safe secondary place to go to that is far from any large metropolis.

August is the month where things will really kick off and please please if it does be ready and plan for eventualities. Have escape routes to leave your home and town/city. Think of scenarios and what your best responses would be.

Buy SAS survival manuals and take them with you wherever you go during August and the following months.

BE PREPARED

Posted by: Churchill1938 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:33 PM

All streams of Islam believe in a divine saviour, known as the Mahdi, who will appear at the End of Days. A common rumour - denied by the government but widely believed - is that Mr Ahmadinejad and his cabinet have signed a "contract" pledging themselves to work for the return of the Mahdi and sent it to Jamkaran.

Iran's dominant "Twelver" sect believes this will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam, or righteous descendant of the Prophet Mohammad.

He is said to have gone into "occlusion" in the ninth century, at the age of five. His return will be preceded by cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed. After a cataclysmic confrontation with evil and darkness, the Mahdi will lead the world to an era of universal peace.

This is similar to the Christian vision of the Apocalypse. Indeed, the Hidden Imam is expected to return in the company of Jesus.

Mr Ahmadinejad appears to believe that these events are close at hand and that ordinary mortals can influence the divine timetable.

The prospect of such a man obtaining nuclear weapons is worrying. The unspoken question is this: is Mr Ahmadinejad now tempting a clash with the West because he feels safe in the belief of the imminent return of the Hidden Imam? Worse, might he be trying to provoke chaos in the hope of hastening his reappearance?

Posted by: Churchill1938 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:35 PM

Here's a video of one of those Peaceful Muslims that denies Islam is violent during her MSM interviews , but when speaking to the masses in rallies for Muslims she lets loose with all the tirades and death threat to the infidels.

Anyone at JW that has links to Coke-Cola should alert them that this hatefull bitch is tell British Muslims to stop buying goods from Jewish stores and stop buying Coke-cola, vevery time you buy a Coke you buy bullets for the IDF to murder Palestinian children.
She finished her rant with an outright treasonist declaration that Muslims are tired of parade protests, next time "We'll Riot" .


http://www.hizb.org.uk/multimedias/uk/march10122005/talk2.ram

Sadly, these are the Moderates that believe evryone else is ignorant and violent , all they want is an Islamic State and Shariah Law.

Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:44 PM

Soooo....if we do an EMP (I think that's what it's called) Aug. 1st. over Iran, how long would it last? Wouldn't that give us time to get rid of imadingdongs nuclear facilities? Thereby thwarting his attempts of middle east chaos and the well mahdi?

All in favor.......

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:45 PM

EMP would destroy their command & control for a while, but they could rebuild the technology infrastructure surrounding the missiles, its launch, and its guidance, even while the country in general was just starting to recover from the EMP blast.

610 * 623 * 732* 1066* 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001

President Mahmoud has plenty of command but little or no control. Probably he lacked parental guidance as an intense, hairy Moslem youth.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 5:57 PM

This guy is bringing a sub-machine gun to a howitzer fight. The Israeli military would feel very little compassion after the loss of a city or two.

The explosion he is asking for may be the end of the Farsi language.

Posted by: limes [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:00 PM

Here are some good links on EMP. Dunno why they're not Hyperlink Blue.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/policy/army/fm/3-3-1_2/Appc.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/1984/ERD.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/congress/1997_h/h970716u.htm

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:02 PM

APF, make that a very SHORT hairy youth.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:10 PM

A free Kurdistan, supported diplomatically and militarily by the United States, would encourage the Kurds within Iran to strive -- violently of course -- to become part of that free Kurdistan. They could and should be helped. And their agitation, in turn, would not be lost on the Azeris, the Baluchis, and the Arabs of Khuzistan. The Islamic Republic of Iran may think nothing worse can happen to it than to have its nuclear project taken away, for a while. It is quite wrong.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:26 PM

The nuking of Iran would throw up huge quantities of dust and debris into the stratosphere, cancelling out much of the extra greenhouse effect from human-produced greenhouse gases.

So nuking Iran would not only cut out the cancerous tumor of metastatizing Islamic jihad, but it would also solve the global warming problem at the same time.

A twofer bargain at any price.

Posted by: Steven L. [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:27 PM

Hugh writes: "A free Kurdistan, supported diplomatically and militarily by the United States, would encourage the Kurds within Iran to strive -- violently of course -- to become part of that free Kurdistan. They could and should be helped."

Impossible. That would destabilize Turkey, which had eaten a big piece of Kurdistan in 1922. Turkey doesn't want their own Kurdish minority rising up demanding to be part of an independent Kurdish state.

And Turkey is a NATO ally. The U.S. can do nothing to piss Turkey off. That is one of the reasons why the U.S. committed itself to a stable Iraq, not a Balkanized Iraq consisting of independent Kurdish, Shi'a and Sunni enclaves. The other nations that are part of our anti-terror coalition, such as Turkey, fear that this would help destabilize their own countries.

Posted by: Steven L. [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:32 PM

Well, Iran needs a smack down. The earthquakes there aren't doing the job just yet as far as taking out their facilities.

There is no sense in waiting for them to attack Israel before something is done. We already know they are muslim and insane.

KABOOM!!

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:46 PM

Churchill1938, that's quite a chilling scenario. I wonder if I should stock up on food and ammunition. If I have a lot of food and water stcokpiled, I will need a lot of ammunition to defend it. If I have a lot of ammunition. I can get food and water. Decisions, decisions, decisions.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:47 PM

Steven

Turkey never was a part of the anti-terror coalition. And the current de-facto Islamic regime certainly won't be. I disagree with anyone who thinks that Turkey should be preserved in one piece.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 6:48 PM

Limes, I am reminded of an Admiral William F. "Bull" Halsey statemant. He said that he would not rest until the Japanese language was only spoken in Hell.

Farsi will still be spoken in parts of LA County, where the largest collection of Iranians outside of Tehran reside.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 7:06 PM

Pelayo;

I stand corrected.

Posted by: limes [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 7:18 PM

Or could Ahmadinejad be referring to a couple of nukes going off in Mecca and Medina?

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 7:38 PM

Iran forgets that Isreal may be the little dog in this tough Mid East neighborhood, but it has a lot of sharp teeth.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 8:51 PM

Ahmadinejad warns of Islamic 'explosion' over IDF raid in Gaza

I am sure the Islamists (including Ahmadinejad) will eventually be exploded. Islam is a lot like the Heaven's Gate Cult and Ahmadinejad is their Marshall Applewhite(Ahmadinejad even looks like him).

http://www.rickross.com/groups/heavensgate.html

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 9:04 PM

Ahmed-in-jihad had a good life.

Quite a long life for a lunatic terrorist, a true 'Islamic-success-story'...

The west is ill equipped to deal with faith-motivated lunacy, it cannot even cope with massive infiltration by Islamic subversives in its own societies.

Israel's strategy of targeted killings seemed always too little too late, but it did work, although much more should have been done in this regard.
Ahmed-in-jihad should not feel secure in Iran, we have every right to self-preservation and a preemptive hit on him and Iran's nuclear facilities should not be further delayed...

America has to look at its options: Erasing Mecca and Medina would -not only in my opinion- destroy the cult of Islam.
It should have been discussed right after 9/11 but few took it seriously, it seemed too harsh an option.

A people as superstitious as the Muslims , a people so fanatically stooped in the 7th century, do need a serious wake-up-call, a clear show of strength and someone telling them
"So far and not one step further.."

It would be absurd to call for the annihilation of a whole people -as Mohammedans do- and that won't be necessary. But to show the Mohammedans that Allah has no chance against the united powers of the west will become inevitable.

We need leaders to achieve that. I don't see any at this time, just 'administrators' who administer one case of bankruptcy over another.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 9:44 PM

Bring it on, Madhat. We need to thin out the ranks of the dhimmis. An attack from you would be a god send. Because, right now, the only thing protecting islam is the dhimmis over here.

Churchill1938, sounds like a party. I'm going to stock up on snacks and drinks. My car gets 43 miles to the gallon. I'm ready.

Posted by: somethingaboutislam [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 9:53 PM

Unfortunately, nuking (or otherwise destroying) any or all of these islamic "countries" won't end islamofacism. The technology available to anyone anywhere means that even one dedicated muslim can wreak deadly havoc. He or she will not be deterred by the destruction of a country (after all, countries are nothing beside the dreamed of world-wide caliphate). Nor will destroying medina or mecca deter them. Like mushrooms in a dank environment, they will spring up for all eternity until none are left to propogate themselves. It seems the real answer is too much to bear for most civilized minds.

Posted by: perpster [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 9:53 PM

Thanks for the link to the video, ala-sux.

Quite provocative. By Jove, the lady is a veritable British Cindy Sheehan. Even kinda sounds like her, albeit with a Limey accent.

I wonder if it ever dawns on her that she would never have an opportunity to address Moslem audiences in Saudia Arabia, since she is a woman. And she seems to enjoy directly enjoining Tony Blair, derisively and even seditiously, but she will never know what it's like to say a word against sheik or sultan or mullah, even were she so inclined.

I suggest we don't disaapoint her, now that she's challenged us to "bring it on."

It's not a stretch, by the way, to interpret the end of her diatribe as intended to incite riot and civil unrest. Are the British authorities all dhimmi?

Posted by: Haid Dasalami [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 10:12 PM

"And Turkey is a NATO ally. The U.S. can do nothing to piss Turkey off."
-- from a posting above

Erratum sheet:

For "NATO ally" read "current member of NATO"

For "U.S. can do nothing" read "Turkey will not be admitted to the E.U., and the Turkish elite now understands this, and there is much that the Americans can do to obtain Turkish acquiescence, unhappy acquiescence, in a Kurdish state."

The rest, from "to" to "off" can be cut.

And as I have been over this so many times before, going into the list of things that Turkey has done to demonstrate it is no longer the Turkey that American officers, so impressed with their Ankara counterparts who seemed, to them, to represent Turkey, and even some civlians (Feith and Perle, who both lobbied on behalf of Turkey after the Reagan Administration ended and they left their government positions). The power of Erdogan and his party. The refusla to let that fourth American division invade Iraq from Turkey. The comments by prominent Turks about how American soldiers in Iraq are "worse than Nazis." The best-selling "Mein Kampf" in Turkish. That propagandistic movie againt directed at American soldiers and a Mengele-like Jewish doctor who harvests the organs of prisoners at Abu Ghraib -- a disgusting movie that was a big hit all over Turkey. And so much else. Turkey may still be a member of NATO, but it is not an ally. It is a country which will either play ball with us, or it won't.

But we have ways. And not the least of those ways is to suggest that only the United States can prevent an independent Kurdistan from making territorial demands on Turkey, and instead directing its efforts toward the Kurds in Iran and Syria. An intelligent and less timid administration would not shrink from the difficult but hardly impossible task -- a task requiring imagination -- to extract Turkey's acquiescence. It can be done, and those who siimply recoil in horror are simply too timid or unimaginative to contemplate the possiblity.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 10:34 PM

I'm in agreement that the best thing that could happen to the United States right now is a good old-fashioned jihad attack.

Wake us up. Give us a good smack in the head.

A dose of "bad medicine" is exactly what the doctor ordered for this PC madness.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 10:40 PM

Cut the jaw-jackin', Mahmoud, and attack already.

September 11th would be a good date.

We need the excuse to clean your clock.

Cuckoo, in this case.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2006 11:21 PM

Well actually an Islamist explosion is kinda what I had in mind.

Posted by: WildThing [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 8, 2006 1:28 AM

Hugh;

FYI, NATO is referred to as 'Need Alcohol To Operate' within the US membership.

Posted by: limes [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 8, 2006 1:35 AM

Oh Please!! Isn't the Islamic world just an explosion waiting to happen anyway? Let's just get on with it! I just hope Israel does not back down, no matter what!

Posted by: Katie07 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 8, 2006 2:47 AM

It seems the common consensus here is "Bring It On!", while we are simultaneously leaving our societies and our borders open. Apparently it is unfeasable to have well-policed borders, or to inspect incoming cargo, or to have U.S. companies in charge of port security, if we believe what we are told. I'd prefer to go lighter on the bravado, and heavier on the preparations.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 8, 2006 4:34 AM

Didn't iran gets its missile technology from North Korea? : - D

Posted by: CGW [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 8, 2006 7:19 AM

What kind of explosion. They are all impotent! All they can do is scream and make poetic, stupid threats about war, murder, hatred, etc. If they could actually do something, they would be doing it.

Posted by: winta [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 8, 2006 8:55 AM

specal guest, you miss the point. We need them to attack and be successful - fast jihad. Only bloodshed will wake more people up. And it is the waking up of people that we need to finally get the ball rolling against islam.

Another plane into another building would be a big blow to CAIR and to the slow, insidious jihad threatening our culture. It's not the fast jihad we have to worry about. It is the slow jihad. The fast jihad sets back islam. The slow jihad puts it forward. The fast jihad is illegal. The slow jihad is legal and gets political support. Only one thing can stop the slow jihad - and that is bloody fast jihad.

In WW II, we didn't need to wake people up. We knew who the enemy was. But in this war, there are still a majority of the people who have yet to identify our enemy. Fast jihad that kills Americans, is the best way to identify the enemy as islam. Once that identification process takes place, then the war will be prosecuted from our side finally.

You may say that it is a terrible to call for the death of more people. Well, that is the fault of the Left. That is why I hate them. Because of their recalcitrance, they have insisted on the death of more Americans before America finally does something. 3000 wasn't enough, they said. It was an isolated incident. Not indicative of a greater threat. Essentially, they need more blood to satisfy their requirements to go to war. So it is the Left that is calling for more American blood before offensive measure can take place to finally protect America. Since the Left influences America's foreign and domestic policy, regrettably, their conditions must be met.

So I say to Madhat, bring it on. Satisfy the requirements of our dhimmis, so that we can finally get their co-operation to kick your ass.

Posted by: somethingaboutislam [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 8, 2006 9:09 AM

"Islamic Explosion Poisons Air Over Israel"

"lead to an "explosion" in the Islamic world that would target Israel and its supporters in the West."

The murderer in chief of Iran knows well of what he speaks. Soon the west will cut all food aid to the leaches of palistine and the result will be explosive. Extreme diarreah and flatuence will hit the population soon and smother Israel like a deadly swamp gas. The IDF has been issuing protective masks to the general population but limited to Jewish nationals. The United Nations prematurely issued a protest then withdrew it when the muslim contingent noted that the aroma was pleasant to those that had been incarcerated and had a calming effect.

Posted by: vulcan [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 8, 2006 8:08 PM

Kaboom

Posted by: Clash [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 9, 2006 2:40 PM

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