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July 14, 2006

Olmert: Operation will stop when Hizballah disarms

Olmert attempts to keep the world's focus where it should. I hope he will be successful in this, for the problem the West faces now is that so many of its leaders do not even recognize the evil that must be resisted. The world outcry against Israel is a prime example of this. "Olmert: Operation will stop when Hizbullah disarms," from AP, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

Israel will not halt its offensive in Lebanon until Hizbullah is disarmed, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Friday.

Olmert made the comments during a telephone call with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Israeli government officials said Friday. Olmert agreed to allow a U.N. team come to the area to try to mediate a cease-fire, an official close to Olmert said....

Olmert said he would only cooperate with the U.N. team if its mandate would be to free the captured Israeli soldiers and force Lebanon to comply with a U.N. resolution that calls on it to deploy its forces along its border with Israel, moving Hizbullah guerrillas out of the area, the official said.

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Operation will stop when Hizbullah pulls out their secret weapon:

Condi Rice with a very nasty scowl cast in Israel's direction.


Hopefully, Israel will finish the job once and for all this time regardless!

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:10 PM

It makes me wish Israel would not stop until all Islamic nations have fallen. A once and for all final allout gloves off battle of wills is needed, winner takes all.

Posted by: dizzyfatplonka [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:14 PM

I am not sure I would call KOFI. THEN AGAIN, I would not waste time calling the UN either.
It is good to see some backbone by a leader of a country that Islam wants to Destroy.

HEY rest of the world, a HINT.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:18 PM

Ooops it looks like Irans game just hit a brick wall

Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:20 PM

Hizaballah will disarm "only when they pry my gun from my dead hands"

Wishful thinking.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:20 PM

You are doing a great job, Israel. Do it till Hizbullah drop its pants. God is kicking Allah's butt.

Posted by: ssa [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:29 PM

Run Hizbullah back to Iran.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:41 PM

The only languge Muslims understand is force. Someone was telling me a while back that Muslims show courage only until they are under attack. Even when they are courageous, they seldom attack directly nor do they, if civilians can possibly be found, attack soldiers.

Posted by: SafetyFirst [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:41 PM

allah hates muslims and punishes them through Jew and Crusader pig-dogs. allah also punishes the muslims with illitercy, servitude, ignorance, short and brutish lives as well as many diseases allah no longer sends to the infidel pig-dogs. Muslim countries suffer the worst in natural disasters like tsunamis, earthquakes and the rest.

allah hates muslims - the proof is all around us every day.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 4:46 PM

My apologies for being off topic.

Mumbai’s train terror came from Bangladesh

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 5:26 PM

Hizbullah your days are numbered, save youself and
return to Iran, but then it may become a parking lot by mid August.

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 5:40 PM

Quite a while ago my friend was having his after work pint in his local. It was mid afternoon and the pub had no more than a few old fellas and five or six men in it. A Muslim lad had come into the pub and started arguing with one of the lads on the other side of the bar. He didn’t know what the argument was about and didn’t really care. He heard a heated argument and a few expletives and the Muslim stormed out.

Thirty minutes later cars pulled up outside the pub and a large group of Muslim men got out with bats and started shouting for this lad to come out of the pub. My friend is no stranger to a bit of a fight. He had a bit of a reputation at school and as spent more time in cells for battling than most, but he’s now a tradesman, with a wife and a mortgage and was sat in that quiet pub relaxing after work.

My friend says the Muslim knew what the resistance might be and took enough people back with him to ensure they could not lose. He also says that the Muslim could have sorted the problem there and then but chose to bring in the hoards.

The pub faces the main junction in the town and the Muslim gang were blocking this junction. The police station which was a divisional headquarters at the time is 50 yards away and was in sight of the Muslim gang. The town hall is directly opposite to the pub.
No police arrived during or after the incident.

It strikes me that this behaviour is being repeated time and time again across the Arab world.

Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 5:44 PM

Israeli military officials say a naval ship has been badly damaged by a Hezbollah explosive drone

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5182048.stm

Israel is demanding Hezbollah free two Israeli soldiers. More than 60 Lebanese have been killed in the offensive.

Meanwhile Israeli military officials say a naval ship has been badly damaged by a Hezbollah explosive drone.

If confirmed, it is thought it would be the first time Hezbollah has used such a weapon.


Mid-East crisis map

In his address on Hezbollah's TV channel in Lebanon, Sheikh Nasrallah referred to an Israeli warship he said had launched attacks from of the coast of Lebanon, saying: "Look at the warship that has attacked Beirut, while it burns and sinks before your very eyes."

Israel later confirmed that one of its warships had been "lightly" damaged by rockets fired from the shore.

But later unnamed military officials were reported as saying that the ship's steering had been damaged, that its helicopter deck had been hit and that it was still on fire hours after the attack.

There were no reports on casualties, and reports on Al Jazeera TV that four seamen were missing were unverified.

Sheikh Nasrallah threatened Israel, saying: "You wanted an open war and we are ready for an open war."

ISRAEL IN LEBANON
March 1978: Israel invades to stop Palestinian attacks
1982: Full-scale invasion; Israel occupies Beirut; pro-Israel militias massacre Palestinian refugees
May 1983: Israel pulls back, but keeps "security zone"
February 1992: Israeli air strike kills Hezbollah leader
1996: Israel launches "Grapes of Wrath" raids on Hezbollah; 100 civilians die under Israeli shelling of UN base at Qana
May 2000: Israel withdraws troops from Lebanon
January 2004: Prisoners-bodies swap agreed between Hezbollah and Israel


In pictures: Aftermath
Who are Hezbollah?
Online debate: Israeli and Lebanese

The Hezbollah leader promised "war on every level". He said the Israeli coastal city of Haifa would come under attack, "and believe me, even beyond Haifa".

"Our homes will not be the only ones to be destroyed, our children will not be the only ones to die," he said.

Hezbollah has continued rocket attacks on northern Israel - 70 were fired on Friday alone.


A mother and daughter died in an attack on the town of Meron. Two Israelis died in attacks on Thursday.

Posted by: Churchill1938 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 5:46 PM

Chirac says Israel wants to 'destroy Lebanon'
By Philippe Naughton and agencies



President Chirac accused Israel today of wanting to "destroy Lebanon" as the United Nations sent a team of senior diplomats to the region to tackle the crisis caused by Hezbollah's abduction of two Israeli soldiers.



So far Israel has ignored international concerns about its widespread military offensive in Lebanon and also escaped a UN Security Council motion calling for it to halt its operations in Gaza last night when a draft resolution was vetoed as "unbalanced" by the United States.

Israel stepped up its actions in Lebanon today, hitting roads, bridges, fuel supplies and once again attacking Beirut airport to enforce a blockade of the country. Around 60 Lebanese have been killed since the violence flared on Wednesday after a cross-border raid by Hezbollah in which the two soldiers were captured.

M Chirac used his traditional Bastille Day live television interview to criticise the Israeli offensive. "One may well ask if there isn’t today a kind of wish to destroy Lebanon - its infrastructure, its roads, its communications, its energy, its airport," he said. "And for what?

"I find honestly - as all Europeans do - that the current reactions are totally disproportionate. In the Middle East we are currently in a situation of great fragility and instability. We are in a dangerous situation, a very dangerous situation. We must be very, very careful."

As the former administrative power in Lebanon and Syria - both of which it governed under League of Nations mandate between the two world wars - France has close political and cultural links with the region.



Posted by: Churchill1938 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 5:51 PM

The cycle of violence would end if only Israel would withdraw, release hundreds of prisoners, give away more land, tear down the security fences and checkpoints, and allow for right of return. And besides, unlike the countries surrounding it, Israel is a racist state.

Sarcasm /off

Posted by: NCKaffir [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 6:20 PM

If anybody spots Mr Amiinagonad hiding under a cupboard could they please tell him i've got his bacon butties cooked and they are going cold:)

I keep losing him everywhere! Last week he was in my wallet for a week. God these miniature war mongers are hard to keep track of.

Shit at this rate he might really cause some trouble!


Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 6:27 PM

Cycle of violence will end only when ALL ragheads/muslims stick a hand granade up their butt and pull.

Posted by: Avanger666 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 6:32 PM

Look up dhimmi in the Webster's III edition, revised. You'll see Condi smiling back at you with the caption reading: see the word restraint.

Should a thousand rockets hit our cities, would we show restraint in the US? This is Bush's chief foreign policy advisor? God help us. Has anybody gawked at the "package" of party favors we will be giving Iran should the chimp in chief accept the West's offer???

A cease fire now or Israel stopping, bowing to pressure is the effective end of Israel. The whole dynamic has changed. It is not just kidnappings, but the constant barrage of rockets fired into Israel.

If it means the end of US aid, so be it. Israel must press on; not to punish the Arabs, but to send the message that shooting rockets into Israel will not be tolerated.

The entire situation is ludicrous. Clearly Condi is doing her best to manipulate W against is heart. Maybe I'm missing something, but I doubt it.

Posted by: biorabbi [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 6:36 PM

Why should Israel restrain herself in Lebanon. This is garbage. You have an elected government, but it plays games, allowing the turbaned lice to control S. Lebanon. Can you imagine for a moment if Northern Mexico bombed us, but the President of Mexico stated: don't blame us, the Muslims control Northern Mexico. This speaks for the need for buffer zones for the very survival of Israel; along with strong retalations every time. Fire one rocket and will bomb the sh*t out of you. Israel needs to send another message. Do not count on the US to restrain us. Perhaps cutting off aid with an escalation from Israel is the proper way for her to survive anyway. I don't know; I'm thinking on the fly, but this would introduce a cautionary fly into the Iranian grand game of destraction. Maybe Condi can take the three billion dollars a year in aid to Israel and add that to our building up of the Iraqi infrastructure . . . adding the 3 billion to the half a trillion spent. I'm sure it will be well spent in Iraq and greatly appreciated by Sadr and his thugs.

Posted by: biorabbi [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 6:44 PM

The one guy I truly admire in all of this is John Bolton. I love some of his statements . . . there is no United Nations. You could lop off a few stories of the UN and nothing would change. He's smart and does not suffer fools or dhimmis gladly.

Posted by: biorabbi [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 6:46 PM

It seems strange to me that in Europe, the part of the world that has clearly seen that the will and means of killing all jews CAN exist, people seem so incapable of seeing that this will also exists in the M.E. Why are they so blind to this fact?

Posted by: Lili [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 7:12 PM

Why are there no troops on the ground to enforce peace where terrorists threaten peaceful people? Where is the UN ??

Well the US troops that have made up a huge chunk of the Blue Helmets over the years are all too busy. And then there is the fact that over the last decade or so UN "peacekeepers" have been responsible for all kinds of mayhem wherever they may be keeping the piece - rape, forced prostitution, you name it. You would have to be pretty crazy to willingly let UN "peacekeepers" in to keep peace.

It seems strange to me that in Europe, the part of the world that has clearly seen that the will and means of killing all jews CAN exist, people seem so incapable of seeing that this will also exists in the M.E. Why are they so blind to this fact?

They are NOT blind to this fact. These days we tend to teach the Holocaust as something for which the Nazis alone were responsible but that is very far from the truth. The French - both occupied and Vichy - were every bit as proactive regarding the "final solution" as the Germans, as were the Dutch. The Swiss maintained their "independence" and "neutrality" by actively preventing Jewish refugees from even passing through Switzerland - unless they were passing through in a cattle car guarded by storm troopers. In that case the Jews were most welcome in Switzerland. The Brits went so far as to turn refugees that arrived on the Israeli shore in leaky boats away to drown. (And of course after the war locked up every survivor they could catch on Cyprus in yet one more concentration camp - this time run by the British.) The Swedes enforced the Nazi racial purity laws inside the borders of Sweden throughout the war. Many of the Jews that managed to escape Hitler's Action Squads in Poland/Russia/Ukraine were sent to Siberian camps by the Soviets.

After the war the Germans were forced to face their anti-semitism. Today they carry the burden and blame not only for their own actions but also those of every other EU country, nearly all of which were at least acquiescent if not outright complicit in the "final solution." By placing all of the blame on Germany's doorstep, they can then ignore their own guilt.

Of COURSE the Europeans are well aware that the situation regarding the Jews in the ME is not one whit different than in pre-WWII Europe. Each and every one of the Arab/Moslem countries of the mideast together with virtually all of their political and religious leaders were direct allies of Hitler. Doesn't take too much to find pics on the web of Arafat's family members shaking hands with Hitler biggies, the Moslem SS squads, and much more.

And then of course there is the "Pope" - his "holiness" a once and former Hitler soldier. You don't really think those beliefs and attitudes regarding the Jews ingrained in his youth have mellowed any, do you?

Posted by: gallopinggranny [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 7:32 PM

1400 years of payback coming, small wonder hamas and hizballah are scared.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 8:05 PM

The rest of you may have to wait until the rest of us get to play.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 8:09 PM

I'm quite pessimistic about the turn of events. CNN and FOX are reporting Bush would not talk to Olmert today because he was upset at Israel's response. Tony Snow and Condi are both ratcheting up the pressure on Israel. Warner and another GOP senator are calling for the US to put pressure on Israel. Of couse, the democrats will be worse. This is the same tepid response to the cartoon controversy--which was actually a free speech issue--a cornerstone value of the West.

Are we deluded this is just Israel? Or are other factors at play? One could argue the identical mindset is also enabling the largest increase I think ever in young Saudi students to 'study' here. Robert Baer, no friend of Israel, but a straight shooter calls the head of Hizbullah, "an agent, an asset of Iran." He describes him as having US blood on his hands from back in the eighties.

Perhaps Israel should never respond. Lay down their guns. Give the keys to Israel to the Muslims and call it a day. Maybe then there would be no more 911's. This line of thinking makes me wonder if India was being provacative by even bother to arrest Muslim plotters, or invoking the name of Pakistan, an "ally" of the US, as being connected to the Bombay bombers. While were at it, perhaps we should issue an apology on behalf of the West for defaming the prophet. Maybe the cartoonists should be sacrificed by a show trial in the Hague?

But if Israel ceased to exist, if India gives Kashmir away, if the West outlaws free speech, condones honor killings and having 4 wives . . . would it be 'enough?'

Yes, there are free thinkers. Jihad Watch, Hirsi Ali, Christians in the US, Australia, but are they enough? Check out the comments on the Huffington Post: they're 20 to 1 against Israel. Perhaps the decline of Islam was nothing of the sort of all from the historical perspective; but simply an interlude of sorts. The ceaseless attack on non-Muslims continues, creating not resistance in a unifed sense, but increasing dhimmitude. It's a miracle Israel existed for so long. As a friend of Israel, I wouldn't wager on her longterm existance. From my perch, the glass if half-empty and rapidly evaporating.

Posted by: biorabbi [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 8:15 PM

Meanwhile, in Lebanon

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150886002616&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Divisions are growing between different Lebanese groups on Hizbullah, regardless of whether or not they oppose the Israeli move, a la Walid Jumblatt.

I hate the fact that an ugly situation might be created for Maronites, or the Lebanese Forces of Sameer Gaegae, but what Lebanon needs is another war between Shia and Sunnis, with Christians staying out of it as much as possible.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 8:16 PM

"You don't really think those beliefs and attitudes regarding the Jews ingrained in his youth have mellowed any, do you? "

Not in that generation. But I grew up in Germany, amongst kids who even in the late 70s were starting to wear the 'fashionable' palestinian scarf. Normal, highly educated kids. I didn't understand what was going on at the time, but none of them openly professed anti-semitism (well, there were no jews in Germany to be anti-semitic against!). It was more as though in their minds the palestinians had become the 'new jews' and they saw protecting these poor victims as almost helping make up for the german collective guilt.

That middle and now the younger generations of Europe seem unable to see that it is inappropriate to transfer their sympathies from jews to palestinians, just because Israel is a fairly strong country. And that they can't understand that someone with brown skin might be a horrible racist anti-semite.

Posted by: Lili [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 8:19 PM

My whole hearted support and Prayers for Israel and Jews!

Thank you Gallopinggranny for a short account of the truth.All the more reason why so called "international opinion" needs to be spurned with contempt.

Posted by: Crows&Cows [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 8:24 PM

The palestinians and other muslims have kicked lil old Israel around long enough. Try as I might I can not feel sorry for the muslims, not even a little bit. Even if it stopped right now, life has changed for them. It will take years to recover but it will not stop, this is only the beginning. Us lowly infidels are starting to prepare for our turn. Don’t be fooled by the peaceniks, we don’t listen to them why should you? I realize the price of gas will go up but ammo is still cheap and I can always walk. What happened to all the boasting about conquering everyone for allah? You get spanked and you cry for infidel governments to save you. Have you considered allah is a Jew? He is helping them smack your bottoms. Maybe the UN army will save you; oops they don’t have one, hmm, france? Oops they don’t have one, either.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 8:30 PM

I'm quite pessimistic about the turn of events. CNN and FOX are reporting Bush would not talk to Olmert today because he was upset at Israel's response. Tony Snow and Condi are both ratcheting up the pressure on Israel. Warner and another GOP senator are calling for the US to put pressure on Israel. Of couse, the democrats will be worse. This is the same tepid response to the cartoon controversy--which was actually a free speech issue--a cornerstone value of the West.

I hear you. On the other hand, I think we are seeing a game of doubles here. I think the US would have liked to be much more forceful with Iran right along, but public opinion would not stand for George B. "going it alone" - at least not without a darned good excuse, the presence of atomic bombs not withstanding. MSM and their sometimes out-right false reports have cost him too much politcal capital, both at home and abroad.

It was more as though in their minds the palestinians had become the 'new jews' and they saw protecting these poor victims as almost helping make up for the german collective guilt.

I lived in Germany in the 60's and early 70's as an adult and I wouldn't buy that for a half-second. Europeans in general were overwhelmingly anti-semitic during & prior to WWII and that attitude has never changed. There has NEVER been any "sympathy" for the Jews in Europe. In every single conflict the nation of Israel has ever faced, the Europeans have been standing on the sidelines actively cheering on the Arab world. The only thing that any of the EU countries have ever done for the Jewish people is to fork over a few votes at the UN to found the modern nation of Israel. Note, though, that most of those were guilt votes and all went directly against Britain.

IF the "palestinians" are victims - and note that IF - it is not the Israelis who have made them such. Each and every Arab country, large, small, wealthy or dirt poor has refused to take even one single "refugee" even though they themselves created many of these refugees. And then there is the UN. Why is it, do you think, that long past the huge refugee crises that have occurred in Cambodia, various African countries, the Caribbean, the "palestinians" still sit in "refugee camps," still exist on the dole, still manage to not have a single viable commercial entity amongst the bunch of them?

Posted by: gallopinggranny [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 8:47 PM

Batton down the hatches and stay the course. This response is exactly what the terrorists did not want.
If the US or Britain or Canada were taking incoming missiles by a terrorist organization, then having soldiers captured and randsomes being immediately requested, would they say 'okay, let's negotiate and let go a thousand terrorists for our soldiers,?
Please tell me the west hasn't become that pacifist yet? We can already see the demise of France because of their pacifism.

Stay the course Israel. It is the only one you have.

Posted by: winston [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 9:04 PM

God is kicking Allah's butt.
Posted by: ssa at July 14, 2006 04:29 PM
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Appropirately stated.

The Texican.

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 9:08 PM

M Chirac used his traditional Bastille Day live television interview to criticise the Israeli offensive.
"I find honestly - as all Europeans do - that the current reactions are totally disproportionate."
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This same attitude allowed Nazi Germany to march across europe and concquer europe faster than any other conqueror.

THIS IS WAR BETWEEN ISRAEL, hamas, hibullah, the pals, lebanon and before long, syria and iran.

IN WAR, THERE ARE NO DISPROPORTIONATE WARFARE.

AMERICA DESTROYED TWO JAPANESE CITIES WITH NUKES TO END WW2.

ISRAEL HAS THT RIGHT TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS AND ISRAEL FROM CONTINUED ATTACKS BY hamas and hizbullah AND IF INNOCENTS (IF SUCH A THING EXISTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST) WILL DIE DURING THE WAR.

WAR IS HELL AND MANY OF allah's finest WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITNESS HELL UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.

The Texican.

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 9:16 PM

Pacifists are equally responsible as the fanatics for terrorism and violence in the world.

Both need to be rooted out."...Can't praise a cloistered virtue and a fugitive from Justice"

Posted by: Crows&Cows [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 10:05 PM

Biorabbia, you don't like the UN now, but you sure loved in 1948 when it recognized the State of Israel.

Posted by: Nariz [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 10:19 PM

Nariz wrote: Biorabbia, you don't like the UN now, but you sure loved in 1948 when it recognized the State of Israel.

Nariz, don't assume by his handle that Biorabbi is necessarily Jewish. And don't assume that the UN did anything to be grateful for in 1948. If the Jewish people are "grateful" for the legal return of the land that has been historically their's from time immemorial, it would be to those countries that voted for the state of Israel - certainly not the UN as a whole.

The UN is useless. They do not keep the peace. Human Rights and WHO are jokes. They skim more than they rightfully spend - and run up thousands in parking tickets in NYC while doing so.


Frankly, most Americans are sick unto death of footing a full 25% of the costs for damned-all in return. We would wish the UN off to Belgium or darned near anywhere else posthaste. There's just this one little thing. Every now and again our permanent veto power saves the UN from imposing complete disaster in the world.

Posted by: gallopinggranny [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 11:15 PM

Let the muslims cry for help. iran you are next, allah and mohammad can't save you. No one cares about you clowns. You started it now deal with it.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 11:21 PM

Biorabbi....

Seeing as how most European politicians are completely feckless...they fold whenever a Mo says "Boo".

How are you at performing some "spine" transplants on these despicable people.

Certainly they could use a heart, but there are not enough hearts to go around to meet the demand.

The defense of Western Civilization, indeed, Human Civilization, is relying on these intellectual cretins...it looks bad in all directions...

Posted by: SCV [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 14, 2006 11:56 PM

I wonder what happened to the Olmert thread from yesterday. That was a thread that seems to have gone missing in action. In it my posts are deleted, and then I am threatened with banning for the “nonsense” that I wrote. Here it is, yesterday's thread (also about Olmert) that mysteriously does not now appear:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/012210.php

Posted by: Kafir Nonbeliever [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 15, 2006 12:18 AM

Nothing at all happened to that article, or the thread of comments. It was pushed further down because of the flood of new material. To retrive, simply click on the very link you provide above, then scroll down.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 15, 2006 12:51 AM

"I find honestly - as all Europeans do - that the current reactions are totally disproportionate." - Chirac

In fact, at a governmental level, only Russia and France seem to think this. What a pity the European constitution didn't go through: Europe could have had it's own foreign minister (to be manipulated by the French, of course) - then all Europeans would most decidedly be of this opinion.

Posted by: wallyUK [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 15, 2006 2:36 AM

Kafir

Your other option is to (from the home page) click on the current month July 2006, and then scroll down. You'll find your article.

Thanks for sharing with us the sexual orientation of Dana Olmert - there was nothing I wanted to know more. In future, to be convinced that you have similarly high standards for Muslims as you do for Jews, I expect to find out similar information from you about Gamal Mubarak, Ayesha Gaddaffi, Zeinab Nasrallah and Zahwa Arafat.

Hope you won't disappoint.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 15, 2006 2:44 AM

Mr. Prez is standing firm.

"Bush Blames Hezbollah for Mideast Violence"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2195491

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 15, 2006 6:27 AM

The U.S. and Israel are of course the bad guys with the Americans being referred to as the 'Ami Cowboys'.

Americaningermany, at the time that I lived in Germany there were bars/restaurants in the town that we first lived in that literally would not serve an American - or anyone who even looked like an American. If you walked unknowingly into one place they would simply pretend that you were invisible - for hours if need be.

I'm lucky in that my varied American mutt heritage allows me to blend in appearance-wise in many places, had sense enough to stop shaving my legs and learned German, so I personally did not receive much in the way of first-hand discrimination - mainly because most Germans did not realize that I was American. Saw plenty of it though. Being a US serviceman in Germany was a tough road to hoe, tougher yet if you were a black US serviceman or family member.

What surprises me about "modern" Germany is the number of Turks that currently reside there. When I was there the few Turks present in Germany were not welcome anywhere. The discrimination against them made the treatment of our black soldiers & their wives look like an invitation to the ball.

Posted by: gallopinggranny [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 15, 2006 8:42 AM

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