Saber-rattling or unambiguous declaration of intent?

Posted by: JTF at July 23, 2006 4:36 PM

President Mahmoud, could you please provide a list of Jew threats, massacres, and invasions? I think that I somehow missed these parts so critical to your Mohammedan argument.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 23, 2006 4:59 PM

How about a nice big glass of 'Proportional Intent'?

Posted by: limes at July 23, 2006 5:34 PM

The truth is that it is Iran that is doomed. Isreal in fighting back has had ENOUGH of this garbage.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at July 23, 2006 5:43 PM

Perhaps I'm confused. I just saw on FoxNews that the Saudi Princes were at the White House begging Bush to get Israel to stop kicking Hezbollah's ass. It seems more like Ahmadinejad should be kissing the Great Shaitan's butt, too.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at July 23, 2006 5:53 PM

What an idiot, this guy threatens the one nation that has shown itself repeatedly to stand up to muslims. The entire world knows iran wants nukes and we know Israel already has them. What we don’t know is the back up plan if Israel looks as if will fall. Would they sit down and die quietly or spread their nukes around as many muslim capitals as possible? I know what I would do. This clown wants to go down in muslim history as the guy who destroyed Israel, he wants to be an idol. I thought the koran forbade that but then again nothing in that book is true so who cares if he doesn’t follow it. He has to get over his school bully attitude before the more powerful kids slugs him.

Posted by: Ronin at July 23, 2006 5:58 PM

Ms Louise Arbour courtesy of the BBC
War crimes could have been committed in Lebanon, Israel and Gaza, a senior UN official has said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5197544.stm

This lady and the one on the Italian tribunal must be on the iranian payroll; or else they are idiots -- dangerous idiots!

Posted by: witness at July 23, 2006 6:21 PM

Like this nut needs a new excuse, he has said he is going to destroy Israel since he came to power.
He will be met with a surprise. His allah is not God.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at July 23, 2006 6:21 PM

We need to get out of that disgusting terrorist supporting UN before they get us all killed. Proportionality, Tell me Ms. Arbour what would be the proportionality for 9-11. They massacre people in discos, pizza parlors, schools and churches and you say nothing. Hitler must be your mentor. Go commit suicide somewhere else you rotten excuse for a human being. You should be forced to live with the monsters you so readily mollycoddle.

Posted by: tgusa at July 23, 2006 6:36 PM

Now, come on tgusa; Didn't you read that she hoped that her comments would have a 'sobering effect'. She's trying really, really hard working for peace.

Posted by: limes at July 23, 2006 6:43 PM

What we don’t know is the back up plan if Israel looks as if will fall. Would they sit down and die quietly or spread their nukes around as many muslim capitals as possible?
Posted by: Ronin at July 23, 2006 05:58 PM
++++++++++++++++

If it looks like Israel is going to be invaded and/or fall; find a cave, hole or remote location and plan on spending one or two years there for the nukes will fly across the middle east and asia before Israel falls.

Nukes do not have to hit America to cause devistation to our economy. No foreign oil, means no work for a large section of the USA.

Are you pared: prepared, armed and ready.

The Texican.

Posted by: Texican at July 23, 2006 6:51 PM

Go commit suicide somewhere else you rotten excuse for a human being.

No. With his fake arithmetic, Karl hath determined that you must nursemaid these self-important nihilists to their doomful death, but not before they Quick-Breed at least to the at least the ratio of 4.2 CPH, this is mandated by the Permanent Government that truly runs us, so bow down before them.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 23, 2006 6:55 PM

Got your back, Texican. I am as ready as I can be but the rest of the world will have a bad day.

Posted by: Ronin at July 23, 2006 6:56 PM

Alarmed Pig Farmer,
Dang it! I forgot all about that!

Posted by: tgusa at July 23, 2006 7:09 PM

from above:

Officials also organized a demonstration in the southern city of Shiraz by Iran's small Jewish community calling for Israel's destruction and praising Hizbullah.
.........

I'm sure this was heartfelt and spontaneous. How outraged would the world be (with good reason) if the West regularly rounded up minorities and forced them to demonstate in this way? Do they think anyone in the world is really fooled by this, or is it just a small humiliation that Iranian Jews are made to suffer through?

Posted by: gravenimage at July 23, 2006 7:17 PM

Fantasy-Iran: Israel doomed to 'destruction'
Reality: Iran doomed to 'destruction'

But today, the occupier regime (Iran-Hizbullah) - whose philosophy is based on threats, massacre and invasion - has reached its finishing line."...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/e/e8/Ahmadinejad-and-Nasrallah.jpg

http://sicknick.org/pictures/kowsar-march-11.jpg

Posted by: Frank at July 23, 2006 7:23 PM

Frank,
Aminajihad is wearing my shoes from the 70s! I wondered what happened to those shoes. Ill send him a grimy shirt next week.

Posted by: tgusa at July 23, 2006 7:29 PM

I want to recommend a movie for the inner circle in Iran. Please save a front row seat for Ahmadinejad. The movie is entitled,"Downfall." Don't forget the subwoofer!

Posted by: pismopal at July 23, 2006 7:35 PM

pismopal,
That’s a great movie! If you can get past the subtitles. I made sure my kids watched and understood it all. It is playing on Cable Starz Cinema West all day tomorrow. I personally would have preferred over dubbed English. Even if the lips moved as they do in some Godzilla movies.
Watch it all.

Posted by: tgusa at July 23, 2006 7:45 PM

Arrogant powers have set up a base for themselves to threaten and plunder nations in the region

You want arrogant?

In the Koran:

005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them for friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

033.061 They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy.

Now THAT's ARROGANT!

and the Hezbollah group follows that arrogance... perfectly

Posted by: Beth at July 23, 2006 7:52 PM

Frank and tgusa-

Nice photo!

"Mama-did-jihad" with his oversized shirt and pigeon toe looks like he is having his “special” day with the Make-a-Wish Foundation.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at July 23, 2006 8:02 PM

Frank, nice photos.

Is it just my imagination, or does the Hizbullah guy on the left look like a child molester?

Posted by: texan at July 23, 2006 8:06 PM

Pismopal: Yes, Downfall is a terrific movie. But I think Amad would just think it a piece of bad fiction.

Posted by: texan at July 23, 2006 8:08 PM

Frank-

That photo needs a well thought out caption.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at July 23, 2006 8:14 PM

Hizbullah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and a message that it is the duty of Muslims to "wipe out" Israel..........So when will America admit we are at War with Islam?..and stand by Israel until Islam is given a death blow....Do we wait for Mahmoud to get his bomb or set up terror strikes inside America?...Do we wait until New York looks like London during the Blitz?...It is way past time to say....ISLAM IS THE ENEMY OF EVERY THING WE HOLD DEAR.

Posted by: storagemanager at July 23, 2006 8:25 PM

limes,
That explains it! She’s drunk as a skunk. Must be those gratuitous UN alcohol allotments.

XRDC,
How can you be so cruel? The guy is obviously in need of help and he is reaching out. Where is Dr. Phil when you need him?

Texan,
This man holds a degree in child molestation. He is currently seeking a PHD in genital mutilation from an institute of higher learning.

Posted by: tgusa at July 23, 2006 8:26 PM

Fear not tgusa, I heard a Doctor from Israel has a cure for him.

Posted by: Ronin at July 23, 2006 8:34 PM

From a previous post: "Ms Louise Arbour courtesy of the BBC; War crimes could have been committed in Lebanon, Israel and Gaza, a senior UN official has said."

In the BBC article the words "Personal exposure" were used. A very troubling statement from the UN. "Personal Exposure" means that an individual could be identified as a war criminal. Of course it does not mean that any Hezbolla leader would have any "personal exposure." Remember the UN is actually our enemy. If have to agree with a lot of people, the UN's time has come and gone. It is time for it to be dissolved. If the US leaves and the UN forced to move to Brussles, it will simply evaporate like the League of Nations. A very good thing. Then the English speaking nations, including India, could form a real united nations organization.

Posted by: Pelayo at July 23, 2006 8:47 PM

The American government should extend to Israel the same guarantees it extends to such members of NATO as Spain under Zapatero, Italy under Prodi, Greece under all sorts of regimes, Turkey under Erdogan and others willing to believe that American soldiers in Iraq behaved "worse than the Nazis" and other close friends of ours, who have stood by us so steadfastly at the U.N., or stood up for us at the E.U. and in other forums. It is ridiculous to claim that an attack on those countries, as our "allies," will be treated as an an attack on us, and not do the same for Israel -- or, for that matter, Australia.

Now is a good time to enter into such a treaty. The permanent anti-Israel brigade, what there is of it, in Conogress, will object, but others, at this point, will not.

It would help peace. It would act to make it easier for Muslim states to invoke Daurura, or "necessity," for not attacking Israel. It would certainly cause many in Iran to put pressure on their regime to think again about attacking Israel, whether through proxies, as in Lebanon, or straight on. And that government needs to think again, and again, and to keep on thinking.

Posted by: Hugh at July 23, 2006 8:57 PM

Hugh,
Yes, the cold war is over. It is long past time we dissolve NATO and create a new alliance. Strength in numbers and all that. The enemy proceeds with their plan for hell on earth and we do nothing! I can only hope, as in a not so well known report of the early 1900s from the US Navy, outlining what would eventually become the battleplan of Japan in WWII that somewhere someone in the USA has figured this out. What they know? We will probably pass on before those secrets are revealed.

Posted by: tgusa at July 23, 2006 9:12 PM

Re: What we don’t know is the back up plan if Israel looks as if will fall. Would they sit down and die quietly or spread their nukes around as many muslim capitals as possible?

Muslim capitals - will that include Paris, France ? Muslim immigration and higher birth rate would seem to suggest that France will become a Muslim nation. It's Europe's only independent nuclear power (the UK purchases its nuclear weapons from the US).

Posted by: SleepyCat at July 23, 2006 10:19 PM

The death of Israel would be a body blow to the cause of freedom worldwide, and must absolutely not be allowed to happen.

Divert all jizya to the Israel defens infrastructure. Send the 101st into Haifa. Send the 4th ID into the West Bank. Let's quit walking on eggshells and admit that we're at war with Islam, or they're at war with us and that's all that matters now.

A full and permanent occupation of Syria would be a great start to a hundred year military operation spanning from the Med over to the Khyber.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 23, 2006 10:22 PM

This is off topic, but really not off topic.

I just saw a movie trailer on TV for "World Trade Center" a new movie by Oliver Stone. If it is anything like "Flight 93" I can't watch it. But, it is an O. Stone movie, so anything is possible.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469641/

Posted by: Pelayo at July 23, 2006 10:25 PM

Muslims have proved they aren't capable of governing their own countries. I guess we do need to back to the days when Britain or France or someone colonized the areas. I'm sure they were run much better than they are now. WHEN the muslims grow up and become responsible?

Posted by: freewoman at July 23, 2006 10:27 PM

OOPs! That should say WHEN will the muslims grow up.

Posted by: freewoman at July 23, 2006 10:28 PM

Pelayo,
No politics, no America bashing.
It is a heart wrenching account of two port police trapped in the rubble between the two towers on 9-11. The rescue operation proceeds, it does have a better ending than Flight 93, the heroes that they were, they, Flight 93 should go down in the annals of US history with all of those great Americans who have stood and died against tyranny from the very beginning. More to come.

Alarmed Pig Farmer,
When do we start?

Freewoman,
Our survey says…NEVER!

Posted by: tgusa at July 23, 2006 10:42 PM

I am old, overweight, out of shape, do not speak a word Hebrew and have never been to Israel, but I swear to God I'm thinking of volunteering for the IDF.

Posted by: BunrattyBill at July 23, 2006 11:20 PM

Officials also organized a demonstration in the southern city of Shiraz by Iran's small Jewish community calling for Israel's destruction and praising Hizbullah.

What kind of "organizational skills" could be used by the Officials to get the Iranian Jews to praise Hizbullah?

Posted by: Xero G at July 23, 2006 11:30 PM

BunrattyBill
If the Israeli Embassy in D.C. gives me the info I requested I will pass it on. A volunteer probably can't bear arms but somebody has to help make chow and pump gas.

Posted by: pismopal at July 23, 2006 11:53 PM

harding,
I know you are out there, trying to post but because of your vile Jew hating propaganda you are constantly deleted. Tell me how the Jew is a threat to me in language that will not be deleted. Can you handle that? I am willing to bet you do not have the self control to put together 1 paragraph. How does it feel to have so many supporters of Israel in your face? I will bet you are right now so angry you are biting your own tail. Guess what, the world changed on 9-11 and you didn’t. Believe me I know what you would like to do to me, and I can assure you I feel the same toward you. Not only are my hero’s crusaders my relatives probably were. We have seen your type before and we look forward to dealing with you and your kind in the future. So show me what you got, try and post, I dare you. Look forward to hearing from you…NOT!

Posted by: tgusa at July 24, 2006 12:01 AM

Kurds and Baluchis, Arabs and Azeris. All to be encouraged, not least by the glimmer or promise of an independent Kurdistan. What better time to seek one's autonomy, or more, when one is most likely to be sympathetically supported abroad? Will the Arabs of Khuzistan revolt? Once few would help them, but wouldn't Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the U.A.E., supply the money that in turn helps bring about arms deliveries, and would not their television channels, radio statins, newspapers, help whip up fervor in the oil-producing region, on which Iran depends so completely for its wealth? What better way to threaten the wellbeing of Iran, and its ability to pay for nuclear projects and arms shipments and agents abroad?

And then the Baluchis, and the Azeris. Best if they all make trouble at the same moment, when everyone in the outside world either has its own hands full-- in Iraq, the Shi'a will be fending off attacks from, and attacking in turn, the less numerous, but more aggressive Sunnis) or would be delighted to see Iran taken care of, Iran....

Ridimensionato.

Posted by: Hugh at July 24, 2006 12:23 AM

Anyone know of a petition people can sign calling for a moratorium on further Muslim immigration to the U.S.? Or at least calling for what Robert Spencer mentioned in the symposium (on Canadian jihad) the other day at Frontpagemagazine.com? In the symposium, Robert said Western governments should require Muslim immigrants to sign an agreement not to do anything to support jihad, Muslim supremacism over other religions, or introduction of Sharia law to the host country. Robert also said Western governments should then hold immigrants to the agreement. Anyone know where one can sign a petition supporting a proposal like that?

Posted by: traeh at July 24, 2006 12:56 AM

Pismopal - thanks for the help. Truth be told, I wanna shoot some of those SOBs. If I can't bear arms, can I at least hose them down with gas and bar-b-que 'em?? :)

Posted by: BunrattyBill at July 24, 2006 1:16 AM

Hugh, Yes, the cold war is over. It is long past time we dissolve NATO and create a new alliance. Strength in numbers and all that. The enemy proceeds with their plan for hell on earth and we do nothing! Posted by: tgusa

Completely agree. NATO showed how worthless it was in Serbia, and it's existance today would be like the Entante existing during the prelude to WWII. The US should withdraw from NATO and the UN, and start a new series of military alliances with Israel, Australia, Thailand, Nepal, Japan, Taiwan, Ethiopia, Armenia, Bulgaria, and any other allies it can find - the criteria being the attitude of the people of these countries towards the US.

Then convert these alliances into a new league of (Infidel) democracies, and offer them all security guarantees, as well as require the 'all for one and one for all' standard on military alliances. As a result, if Thailand gets invaded by Malaysia, Malaysia gets to be at war with this alliance. Israel gets attacked by Hizbullah, the alliance declares war on Syria and Iran. The UN will be irrelevant, since none of the countries in this alliance will be in the UN. A few completely meaningless resolutions by the Security Council and the General Assembly will show it up as a worthless organization, much like the Non Aligned Movement, even to the remaining members.

Give this new organization a name, and have all its members withdraw from the UN (and NATO where applicable). Let the EU, the UN, the NAM and other polypragnomists do what they can to influence the world. Even if they had the entire OPEC block within them, they couldn't do much.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 24, 2006 2:27 AM

"Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, declared Sunday that Israel had "pushed the button of its own destruction"...Oh, I see, Israel is not playing the dhimmi, paying homage to Islam so they must die. The same fate awaits the rest of the civilized world unless we wake up, wake up people. God Bless Israel and give her strenghth and victory.

Posted by: watcher at July 24, 2006 2:52 AM

The dhimmi nations might inanely harp on *proportional* reprisals but read what the British did to a muslim terrorist.This is the only way to handle them:

"Way back in the early 19th century, when the British conquered the North-West Frontier Province, they were often subjected to murderous attacks by Islamist fanatics. In this context, Field Marshal Lord Frederick Roberts of Kandahar relates the following incident in his book, An Eye Witness Account of The Indian Mutiny (London, 1896). In 1853, Colonel Mackeson was the Commissioner of the Peshawar division. Peshawar, at that time, was not only the most important division but also the largest in India.

On September 10, 1853, a Muslim fanatic murdered Col Mackeson. He was sitting in the verandah of his house and listening to appeals of his subordinates. A Muslim came up, bowed for a kurnish to Mackeson to present him with a paper. As soon as Mackeson stretched out his hand to receive the paper, the man plunged a dagger into his chest. Col Mackeson died on September 14,1853.

The killer was caught, hanged and burnt in public. It is well known that burning of the dead is considered an insult to Islam. However, the British authorities had given very careful consideration to this mode of disposal before it was acted upon. The authorities were convinced of the "deterrent effect it would have upon fanatical Mohammedans, who count it all gain to sacrifice their lives by the murder of a heretic, and thereby secure, as they firmly believe, eternal happiness, but loathe the idea of being burnt, which effectually prevents the murderer being raised to the dignity of a martyr, and revered as a saint ever after".

At other times, when the British rulers discovered that the native sepoys were plotting for treason, they were just blown up by the artillery.........It is the absence of such swift and severe punishment in India that has encouraged Muslim fanatics to kill innocents."

http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=EDITS&file_name=edit4%2Etxt&counter_img=4

Posted by: Crows&Cows at July 24, 2006 2:57 AM

Why doesn't Israel try to force Iran to directly enter the conflict, perhaps by attacking the Iranian supply chain or challenging the arbitrary 20km buffer claimed by the Syrians. Now hezbollah can play this shoot-and-run gerilla war for which IDF does not seem to have any good response. Should a cease fire happen within a week from now, the victory for hezbollah would be enormous. The next wave of rockets (within a year or so) would not be 22kg katyushas but 200kg middle distance missiles hitting Tel Aviv.

If they could make Syria or Iran to attack, IDF would incur really havy losses on them using the conventional millitary strength. Otherwise, they could just keep pussing them a bit more and the moral victory could serve a temporary use.

Posted by: Marvin at July 24, 2006 4:44 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

Life is certainly difficult right now to adjust without Anwer...ill as he was...but my apologies for not being able to join in the foray with gusto ....even muslims like me need a break now & then!

Still onwards and upwards to Beirut isn't it! ...Ah no...hello...I heard this morning that the Isralies would accept an international (read US & British) boundry force on the Lebonan border.

As you always said you would back the Israelis to the hilt...so why not pull out half of your troops out of Iraq and station them north of Israel. Here are some of the advantages:

1) These troops are battle hardened.
2) They are almost in that area.
3) Nothing like a "situation" to force the Iraqis to take control of their own country. If the sunni & shia don't like ...let them sort it amongst themselves. Hell they are doing it anyway..without your help!
4) The Israelis will be over the moon.
5) The Amerekie public will finally feel that their tax dollars are well spent.

All these pluses...and you are still waiting. ...

What's that ? You don't want to face Hizbollox, Hamas as well?

What's that? The "terrorists" will follow you from Iraq and fight you there as well?

What's that? Mighty Sryia and other stalwart arab nation might join the war.

What's that? you want to be seen to be doing the right thing!

So you are not going...even though it is the "right thing" to do.

I thought not...better to spend you $4b/month tax dollars where they can spread democracy..after all Isreal already has democracy...and there is no chance of that being lost is there...you fools!

Posted by: Naseem at July 24, 2006 4:47 AM

Naseem your son is not retunning from GB to help with the business? guess you might as well end it now, no use for an old widow in the land cult of islam. dont bother with the billions used, only good thing it wont be used on the pakistan

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at July 24, 2006 6:15 AM

Many Muslims want Israel destroyed because they can't stand having a non-Islamic country in the Middle East. Other Muslim countries,ie. Iran etc., wouldn't give a damn about the Palestinians if their land dispute were say with another group of Muslims. They only care because it is with the Jews and they want the Jews out of the Middle East.

Posted by: corli at July 24, 2006 6:18 AM

Naseem, now either your diaper has been pulled too tight or you have been slamming your head too hard into the floor during tsa'alat; but it is my impression that you sound a bit frustrated. Talk to us! We are compassionate kaffirs and want to help.

Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at July 24, 2006 6:19 AM

Assalamau-Laikum Corli,

You say "Iran etc., wouldn't give a damn about the Palestinians if their land dispute were say with another group of Muslims. They only care because it is with the Jews and they want the Jews out of the Middle East".

Well, many would disagree because it would be politically incorrect to do so....but I agree with you.

I read about what happened many years ago to your own lands (soon to be handed over to become Islamic lands).

In the US it was the ingeneous red indian...IN Aussie & NZ....The aboriganie, the Mauri.... all "fit for reservation material only".. courtesy of the white man, the christian, the dominant military peoples who have no taste in food (bully beef)or cultures.

Ofcourse the indian, abo can "circulate" with the US, Australia...but he cannot have his land back.."no siree..got maa smith & wesson to ensure me of thait" as you peoples may say in the confederate south.

Now it is the turn of the Isralie...he too will be allowed to "circulate" in the land of his forefathers...but it's that annoyoing bit of land that you gave him...kinda need that back you know...muslims are a proud peoples...and the balance in the ME will be right when it is all Arab land.

Why not just give it back & live in peace?....like the red indian and the abo does!

Will save on a lot of heartache in the longrun!

Posted by: Naseem at July 24, 2006 6:36 AM

naseem,
Do not compare the Red Indians with everything in the world. The British, French, Spaniards, and other colonizing countries of that period colonized North America, as they colonized most of the world including what is today called as China, India, pakistan, bangladesh, burma, and Israel. Personally, I regard Cortez to be the bad one in the American continent. The rest suffered at the hands of the Red Indians as they went about making their colonies. You will recognize the tortures the Red Indians inflicted on the raiding British and other armies while they tried their level best to remain human in their treatment towards such an enemy. (You will recognize, because they were similar to the ones the muslims inflicted on infidels. Though in my opinion, the Red Indians were more human, more sporting, than muslims ever can be or have been.) The British fought the French, along with some friendly Red Indians, the French had some friendly Red Indians on their side as well, it was a cauldron of confusion in there, much like it was in India during the British colonial period. Ultimately the Free People established what is now called as America. And Red Indians have their reservations in America. And Americans fully value and cherish their heritage.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at July 24, 2006 7:04 AM

Naseem:

Don't give up your day job, assuming you have one beyond spreading dawa, to put yourself forward as a geo-political strategist, because you really suck at it.

Iran (and the dhimmis who think Ahmadinejad and the mulllahs to be master chess playrs) can smirk all it likes about the current state of affairs, but I'm not so sure that the "trapped" or "tricked into taking the bait" party is Israel. The second a Syrian or Iranian warplane heads towards Lebanon to help Hezbollah out of the predicament Tehran pushed Nazrallah into, is the second Demascus and Tehran will be condemned to glow in the dark.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at July 24, 2006 7:59 AM

Good Morning all,

I have noticed the American Indians are free to travel anywhere they wish and are entitled to any benefit availiable to any American. The Indian Reservations are open anyone wishing to visit or stay.
The Indian wars ended over 100 years ago and to my recollection they have never engaged in the hate and killing rampages the Muslims engage in. No one is participating in car bombs, suicide bombers, rocket launches, mine laying, ambushes, executions, violent flag burning protests, hate filled speeches, or honor killings. AND no one is attacking the Indians either. The American Indians are a proud people and they are proud to be called AMERICAN INDIANS.
American Indians proudly serve in the military, proudly serve in government, revere the land they live on, and are as fiercly protective of their American heritage and freedom.
America respects their heritage, Their reservations ensure their heritage and culture will continue as long as there is America.
And no one is lobbing missiles into the Indian held lands or trying to destroy their people or their way of life.
Now the Muslims are different, They do not value freedom of the people, land, or culture, They do not value life or peace. They do not tolerate outsiders, do not believe in co-existence with other cultures and are not even willing to try.
They value death above all else. It is death they deal in and it is death they often receive, often at the hands of their own people.
THe Muslims are succeeding at slowly destroying their own culture. They seek death and it is arriving.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 24, 2006 8:00 AM

Assalamau-Laikum exsgtbrown

...different cultures react in different ways. The annilation of the red indian culture, values, land and way of life by you has so been smashed, so complete that he no longer knows who he is.

If you really believe what you do...why not give him back his land...all you can do is pat him on the back for saying "we are letting you live on reservations...be grateful"...and what a disgusting word "reservation" is anyway!

He now believes in jesus instead of Manitu...how's that for a complete change.

Well the muslim must not fall into the same trap...he must live in peace but to his own values,...for example this means ALLOWING the infedel to be grateful for hearing Allah prayers from loudspeakers in all American cities as soon as possible..live and let hear...that's Islam's peaceful policy.

In the longer term for the sake of peace...let the Arab Peninsula become Islamic...you know it makes sense...we are all tired of war and the death of innocents and infedels!

Posted by: Naseem at July 24, 2006 8:19 AM

I can see that co-existance between different peoples and cultures do no agree with the Muslim point of view, That is one of the reasons they are doomed to self destruction.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 24, 2006 9:01 AM

For some reason, Naz's last post reminded me of a quote from 'King of the Hill':

"Just when I think you've said the dumbest thing ever...you keep talking."

Put down the pipe, Naz. It's messing with your head (as if banging your head against the ground five times a day for Mo Dogg and Big Al didn't do enough damage).

Posted by: Eisenhund at July 24, 2006 9:06 AM

Infidel Pride,
Have you forwarded that last post to the Bush administration yet?

Posted by: tgusa at July 24, 2006 11:38 AM

No, they won't listen

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 24, 2006 12:34 PM

Reconquest!

Posted by: King Ferdinand (PBUH) at July 24, 2006 3:56 PM

The Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad clearly knows exactly what he is doing. Not to say we agree with it, just Ahmadinejad is politcally savvy. By appearing confrontational with the west Ahmadinejad creates an us versus them attitude which will unite his country no matter his short comings.

An excellent example of this would be George W. Bush after September 11th; uniting the American public despite the recent election circus. Ahmadinejad won't actually do anything other than attempt to stir up the pot of anti-American sentiment.

In this case Islam has little to do with the subject because destroying Israel isn't Ahmadinejad's goal, while staying in power with the support of the Iranian people is important.

If Israel was truly the issue this conflict would have already escalated into a full scale regional war. Iran is simply waiting for when the time is right and then Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will offer his services as a mediator. He will be then seen as a the champion of Muslims everywhere and the protector of peace.

Posted by: Intelligent-Thoughts at July 25, 2006 1:42 PM