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A good editorial in today's Washington Times (thanks to Sr. Soph): "Tehran, Hezbollah and a 'ceasefire'":
While Israel continues fighting to secure its northern border, the Iranian government barely makes an effort to hide its support for Hezbollah. Yesterday, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called the United States and Britain "accomplices of the Zionist regime in its crimes in Lebanon and Palestine" and declared that, by going to war against Hezbollah, Israel "pushed the button of its own destruction." In Tehran, the government, which provides Hezbollah upwards of $100 million a year, has put up billboards paying tribute to Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and declaring that it is the duty of Muslims to "wipe out" the Jewish state. And, over the weekend, in a display worthy of Hitler or Stalin (or Saddam Hussein in happier times), the Associated Press reported that Iranian officials in the city of Shiraz organized a demonstration by Iran's tiny Jewish community praising Hezbollah and calling for Israel's destruction.With this ugliness as a backdrop, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice arrives in the Middle East today for meetings aimed at ending the violence in the region, with the primary focus on finding a viable plan for Lebanon's future. Thus far, the administration has performed admirably in fending off well-intentioned but utterly misguided calls for a premature ceasefire that would leave Hezbollah's military capabilities in place. Over the weekend, unconfirmed reports in the Israeli press suggested that Washington wants Israel to end its military campaign in Lebanon within one week. We trust that this is disinformation, and that Miss Rice and President Bush will quickly knock down such foolishness.
Some object to the Bush administration's approach, arguing that America should instead be an "honest broker" between Arabs and Israelis. But we need to be intellectually honest. The United States is not a neutral party; we are Israel's friend and ally in the war against radical Islam. That doesn't mean we agree with Israel all the time. But we cannot be neutral when Israel is fighting on our side against Islamofascism.
Any ceasefire that leaves Sheikh Nasrallah and his confederates in place as a serious fighting force capable of targeting Israel would be a defeat -- not only for Israel, but for the United States as well -- and Hezbollah would emerge emboldened and more dangerous.
Yes. Read it all.
Posted by Robert at July 24, 2006 7:59 AM
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A bit of good news--Bush Resists Immediate Mideast Cease-Fire, from AP:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- White House officials said President Bush remains opposed to an immediate cease-fire to stop violence in the Middle East, despite personal pleas from ally Saudi Arabia that he help stop the bloodshed....
Let's see if the Bush administration sticks to it!
at July 24, 2006 8:28 AM
What is not said enough is that both the Iranian regime and hizbullah are imbued with a Nazi-like ideology that wants to murder Jews and spreads all sorts of lies about Jews. The Syrian regime too of course. I once read in LeFigaro in about 1987 a quote from a hizbullah newspaper or maybe from Shaykh Fadlallah. It was said: Le microbe juif est partout. That was because hizbullah was unhappy with the election results in the French elections around that time and blamed the results on the Jewish vote in France. Anyone, "le microbe juif est partout" is Nazi talk. Of course, there is much more. Let's complain to the major networks and newspapers that they are overlooking the Nazi character of Hizbullah, Syria and Iran.
Posted by: Eliyahu
at July 24, 2006 8:35 AM
Re: Hassan Nasrallah ...declaring that it is the duty of Muslims to "wipe out" the Jewish state.
He's honest. He deserves repect for that. He's not like CAIR.
Israel has to wipe out Hezbollah and take care of business with Iran-Syria (for starters). That's being honest, too.
Posted by: Frank
at July 24, 2006 8:37 AM
Any ceasefire that leaves Sheikh Nasrallah and his confederates in place as a serious fighting force capable of targeting Israel would be a defeat -- not only for Israel, but for the United States as well -- and Hezbollah would emerge emboldened and more dangerous.
A statement of the obvious to any rational, thinking, human being; unfortunately the West has adopted the the strategic plan of "degrade, contain, manage, and negotiate" as a stardard for "victory."
What's worse, is that in the West, they are prostituting their own laws and judicial systems to pounce on anyone in their ranks who points out the glaring grave site at the end of such a prim-rosed path through the multicultural graden.
It is significant that Hezbollah has adapted the tactics of the Viet-Cong to take on Israel as well as those tactics used by Japanese forces on during WW2.
Not only is Israel now on a disasterous course toward its own destruction by caving in to Condi and whore-hey Bush; but eventually the US will be drawn in to the fight to the death struggle.
What whore-hey says before the cameras is one thing; what he says when the microphones are off is decidedly different; he is a globalist -- and globalists do not believe in absolute victory!
at July 24, 2006 8:45 AM
Re: Iran, Hizballah, and a "ceasefire"
Israel should "ceasefire" when these mortal enemies cease to exist. That is the only answer to jihad. As Stalin said to his generals in 1941 re the Nazis: "They want a war of extermination? Very well, let us give them one." Anything other than that attitude toward Hizballah, etc. is unrealistic.
at July 24, 2006 9:35 AM
Hezbollah has been completely candid in the source of its war aims: Qur'an and Sunnah. That is it. It wishes to destroy the Infidel state of Israel. That is a given. But it also wishes to fully islamize Lebanon, which means to transform the already imperilled Christians, who a few decades ago were at least secure in their own refuge and reoubt of Lebanon, the last stronghold of Christians, undhimmified and unsubmissive, in the entire area controlled by Muslims in the Middle East and North Africa. And finally, it wishes to make sure not only that Islam dominates "and is not to be dominated" but that the Shari'a, the Holy Law of Islam, is put into place. These are the three goals. One of them, only one of them, the goal to destroy Israel, is ever mentioned. The goal to destroy the Christians of Lebanon, to force them to become dhimmis, and thus forcibly put into a state of permanent humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity, is not understood outside Lebanon, and even within the community of Lebanese Christians, not enough attention has been given to what Hezbollah intends. It is right for Christians to hate Hezbollah for what it has done to Lebanon, not only in doing the bidding of Syria, and through Syria, of Iran. It is right for them, and the Druse, and the Sunni Arabs, to see the Shi'a of Hezbollah as a direct threat to their interests. But do they see exactly what the threat is to the non-Muslims (Christians) or quasi-Muslims (Druse)? If they do, now is the time to scream about it, right in the ear of Condoleeza Rice, and the E.U., and the U.N.
Posted by: Hugh
at July 24, 2006 9:40 AM
Hugh-
Israel has to do a lot more to educate the elites and the general public re the things you mention. They (Israel) are appalingly bad at the propaganda game (and they have truth on their side)-so much so that much of the world is conned into beliving that Israel is a bully. The truth, as we know, is otherwise.
Israel must win the perception war by tieing her situation to the wider jihad picture. Some Israelis are doing that-but it has to me more organized-and the truths referenced (by you and others) have to be constantly repeated. The jihadists use the big lie over and over again to paint Israel as a bully...now the big truth has to be repeated over and over again re the bully.
Posted by: Frank
at July 24, 2006 10:48 AM
The goal to destroy the Christians of Lebanon, to force them to become dhimmis, and thus forcibly put into a state of permanent humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity, is not understood outside Lebanon, and even within the community of Lebanese Christians, not enough attention has been given to what Hezbollah intends.
Is it not understood? I submit that it is, but rather denied.
In other words, the reasoning goes along the lines “well, that’s what the koran says; but shouldn't really mean something else. After all, nobody really takes the Bible completely literally except for those fundamentalists other there in the back woods somewhere, so the same should apply to those who practice islam; shouldn't it?"
Sadly, the Christians refuse to see what sense, reason, and instinct for survival -- demands they should see.
at July 24, 2006 11:41 AM
Added thought to above: something is wrong with one's understanding of perception when the "undedog" is allowed to be made to look like the bully, when too many people see it that way.
Most people don't think. They percieve and that's why image is important. Israel is the underdog and this has got to become world-wide perception. Israel's PR stinks in this regard. Talk to enough average folks and too many (even many Jews) don't fully realize that Israel is the underdog-hence the calls for "restraint". That has got to change. Perception is everything in politics.
Posted by: Frank
at July 24, 2006 12:24 PM
one should never use MUSLIM and CEASFIRE in the same sentence.
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at July 24, 2006 12:52 PM
Condi -- if you're listening -- tell Israel to give them hell!!!
Posted by: champ
at July 24, 2006 12:59 PM
Champ, even if she could hear us, she's not listening. Her fingers are firmly pushed into her ears and she's humming "Give Peace a Chance" at the top of her lungs.
Will it last one week? We'll see. Meanwhile, the post-war posturing and spinning has already begun. There are already reports that Israel was stunned at the strength of Hezbollah, and the soon-to-come ceasefire will be because Israel realized they were in over their head.
Even as Israel is criticized for a so-called "unproportional" response, they are described as unable to defeat Hezbollah. Too weak and too strong, simultaneously.
Posted by: special_guest
at July 24, 2006 1:18 PM
it seems the Saudis were not happy with the answer from Bush. lets keeping keep positive, the Bush will keep his word for Israel to defend themselve.
l would like to ask any Democrat, moveone.org types, how long would you keep quiet if hundreds of rockets get lobbed over your city, like what Israel has put up with all these years, even when giving up land for peace. Israel should just keep taking more land for terrorism till every arab muslim is sent back packing to Mecca.
at July 24, 2006 1:37 PM
ZenaWarriorPrincess said
l would like to ask any Democrat, moveone.org types, how long would you keep quiet if hundreds of rockets get lobbed over your city
I would not be nearly as patient as Israel has been, that's for sure. I would not have followed the U.S. Administrations' repugnant "Roadmap to Peace". I would not have taken advice from an American President who holds hands with Saudi Princes in the Rose Garden, sells $6 billion of military equipment to Saudi Arabia, tries and finally succeeds in turning control over ports to the UAE/Oman, and criticizes "my" hypothetical city for building a defensive wall around it to keep out suicide bombers.
How long? Not long.
Posted by: special_guest
at July 24, 2006 2:04 PM
The problem is Hezbollah will most likley be tolerated.It has been tolerated.And this is the likley trend.For the sake of Internatianal niceties.Hezbollah will countinue to fester in Lebanon.Weakend in some ways,but strengrhend in others.Any thing less then no tolerence for Hezbollah will coumpound the current conflict.There will be no workable peace.Lebanon will countinue to fail.Islamic radicals will take anything they can and incorperate it into further jihad.So any thing less then a strong dose of reality will be of no or very little use to the west.No ceasefires will provail,no internatial force will succeed,etc..Hezbollah most not be tolerated.And for that matter Hamas deserves the same as well as the PLO and the like.If these groups countinue the warfare will grow.Its absaloutly clear.Thats the sad state of affairs.
Posted by: Rench
at July 24, 2006 2:08 PM
Here's a piece from Alan Dershowitz detailing how the MSM, Amnesty International etc are playing into the hands of the terrorists and promoting their hate-filled and murderous agenda.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683
at July 24, 2006 4:16 PM
Special_guest -
Yeah -- Condi has cotton stuck between her ears. As soon as I learned that she was going to the frontlines of the Middle East I had to stop and count to a-hundred because she's such a pushover.
AND -- what does Rice base her optimism towards peace on -- positive feedback from the terrorists? Why would she espouse peace, when that isn't what they're DEMONSTRATING to the world?
I'm all for peace, and I believe in promoting it, but both sides have to want it first; and the only direction I see the terrorists moving the world towards is war and more war.
Posted by: champ
at July 24, 2006 4:26 PM
The only kind of peace a muslim need is solitary confinement.
Posted by: ssa
at July 24, 2006 4:50 PM
specialguest and Frank, good points.
I think that we have to say that in many ways, hamas, hizbullah and the Iranian regime are very much like the Nazis: they want world conquest through jihad [which Hitler admired by the way], they want to destroy Jews, as Hitler did, they want to subjugate all non-Muslims to Muslim rule and the Muslim law [shari`ah], just as the Nazis wanted to subject the world to German rule with an inferior status for non-"Aryans."
The jihadists and the Nazis are not identical, but the parallels are close. Haj Amin el-Husseini, the British-appointed mufti of Jerusalem, spent most of WW2 in the Nazi-fascist domain, encouraging Muslims [over Radio Berlin] to fight to help the Nazis and urging the Germans to kill more Jews faster.
Here is a link about Hitler's interest in jihad:
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2006/01/islamic-influence-on-hitler-can-it-be.html
at July 24, 2006 5:09 PM
Eliyahu-Interesting article.
Israel must pay much more attention to perception. The fact that much of "the world" percieves Israel as a bully and Iran-Hezbollah as the underdog tells me that Israel has got to take PR as seriously as CAIR.
I suggest the truth re Israel is in the theme from "Rocky". That perception happens to be reality...it needs to be played..
http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=013046501140006900&cid=600109
at July 24, 2006 6:31 PM
Once again, Jews are being paraded, set upon to march against their own in Iran, and they willingly comply, being good dhimmi's, for fear of being massacred or raped or both, or chased off battered & beaten, with barely a shirt on their backside....
At the same time, we hear of well organized demonstrations in Sydney and Melbourne, organized by the same usual suspects,
the whining, lying weasel Mamduh Habib and the malevolent Keyzar Trad, fueling the flames of Jihad while the "Mufti of Sydney", sheik Halali, seethes that the Howard government had the audacity to have laws implemented that "target Muslims"...
If so, good. These laws are far too weak. And the country is being overrun by the hijabbed, jilbabbed and burkha-wearing, forever child-carrying, breeding crowds from the Orient, a disturbing, annoying sight and I would like to use another language to express myself and how I feel about it....
But we are PC, even here. And it is not necessary that my post disappears because I use politically 'incorrect' language, is it?
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at July 25, 2006 5:58 AM
Here's a deal: We'll do a cease fire in exchange for the Moslems doing a cease Jihad. Of course, the latter would require them renouncing their putative religion, so let's keep shooting.
The only rational response to this "crisis" is massive arming of the Jews ruling Palestine.
I like the ring of that: the Jews ruling Palestine. God Bless America.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at July 25, 2006 6:21 AM
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