IS HE REALLY THE HEART??

Just like Romania had to pay a high price for siding with Hitler which they suffered more than 50 yrs so to will the Lebanese people have to pay the hard price for siding with Islamic terrorist…

Some sights that will help to show what happed and might help to know??

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/24/154609.shtml?s=lh

Hezbollah Uses Mass-Kill Rockets

Kenneth R. Timmerman, NewsMax.com
Tuesday, July 25, 2006
NewsMax contributing editor and Middle East expert Kenneth R. Timmerman is in Israel covering the conflict there. He reports from Haifa.

http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch09tu.html
Turkey and Islam, 1900 to 1930
Modernizers against the Ottoman Sultanate

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The New Regime Loses Wars
In 1911, Italy warred against the Ottoman Empire for the possession of what was then a part of the Ottoman Empire: Libya. Italy won this war, which demonstrated the weakness of the Ottoman Empire. Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece wanted the Ottomans out of Europe, and they overcame their differences as to how Ottoman holdings in Europe were to be divided. Bulgaria and Serbia were demanding autonomy for Bulgarians and Serbs within the empire, and Greece was calling for the liberation of oppressed Christians - Greeks - living within the Ottoman Empire. Montenegro joined in the opposition against the Ottoman Empire, and in October, 1912, these four powers mobilized for war, for territory they believed was theirs. Germany backed the Ottoman Empire, and France backed Serbia.

READ THE WHOLE THING AND LEARN HISTORY BECAUSE NOW THEY TRY TO REPEAT HISTORY WILL THE WORLD STAND TOGETHER AND ONCE AND FOR ALL END THIS OR WILL THEY MAKE DEALS AND SUFFER ONCE AGAIN??

After months of illness, Kemal died on November 10, 1938 at the age of 57. He was remembered by his fellow citizens as the creator of modern Turkey. His body was taken to Ankara with widespread demonstrations of grief and mourning.
By some Islamic fundamentalists Ataturk has been remembered as a traitor and an infidel.
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http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch21b.html
Crisis and War in Europe, 1937 to 1940
"This man is a strange mixture of heroism and cunning. If he had come to power in 1933, we would not be where we are today."
Goebbels on Churchill, 7 May 1941
Germany, Absorption of Austria and Talk at Munich

THE MORE THINGS CHANGE THE MORE THINGS STAY THE SAME??

http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch22.htm
Roosevelt and Approaching War
The Economy, Politics and Questions of War, 1937-38

SOME GOOD READING?

http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch19.htm
Passivity and Aggression in Europe, to 1936
Voices in Britain and the United States against War
Many in Great Britain were looking back upon the horrors of World War I. The novel by the German author, Erich Maria Remarque, All Quiet on the Western Front, had been published in 1929, and it was a sensation in Britain. There were other widely read books on the horrors of World War I, including Vera Brittain's memoirs of nursing during the war, Testament of Youth. The British were also reading about Gandhi, who was frequently in the news in Britain concerning his non-violent, civil disobedience campaigns in India. And, in response to the horrors of war, some in Britain saw hope in Gandhi's pacifism preventing their nation from again going to war. And they hoped that Gandhi's pacifism being adopted in all nations.

BUT THIS IS A MUST READ BECAUSE THE MORE THINGS CHANGE THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME HISTORY DOES MATTER!!

In January 1933, Hitler came to power, and in Britain people became more concerned about the likelihood of war. The question of war was debated on university campuses in both the Britain and the United States. In the U.S. in 1933, Brown University conducted a poll of 21,725 students from sixty-five U.S. colleges, and the poll found 8,415 who declared themselves pacifists, 7,221 who believed that the only justification for their nation bearing arms would be its having been invaded, and only 6,089 who declared that they would fight another war if the government ordered them to do so.NOTE In February 1933, students at Oxford University debated the question that "this House will in no circumstance fight for king and country." At the conclusion of the debate, 275 undergraduates voted against fighting for king and country, and 153 voted for fighting for king and country. Newspapers described the debate, and many in Britain were dismayed. The controversy over the debate inspired another, larger, noisier debate at Oxford, with Winston Churchill's son, Randolph, leading the debate against the pacifists. And the pacifists won by a larger margin: 750 to 138. Similar debates at the London School of Economics resulted in a pacifist resolution that was supported unanimously. Aberystwyth University in Wales voted 186 to 99 for pacifism. Manchester University voted for pacifism 371 to 196. And students in Canada and New Zealand voted with the Oxford pacifists.
Hitler was watching, and, contemptuous of pacifism, he was encouraged. Winston Churchill was outraged.

YES THIS A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE THAT MAYBE A HELP TO NOT BE DAMED TO REPEAT THIS HORROR?

http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch23.html
War in Europe, 1941-45
Germany Invades the Soviet Union

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/hebron29.html
The Hebron Massacre of 1929
by Shira Schoenberg
http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch17jeru.html

Palestine to 1939
Palestine and Britain to 1922

http://www.fsmitha.com/time1949.htm
Timeline: 1949
http://www.fsmitha.com/time1948.htm
Timeline: 1948
Jan 1 Britain nationalizes its railways. Palestinian militants attack and surround the Jewish quarter in Jerusalem. And Jews carry out a series of raids as reprisals for the massacre of forty-one Jews in Haifa.

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May 14 A national council, "representing the Jewish people in Palestine and the Zionist movement" meets and states that "by virtue of a resolution of the General Assembly of the United Nations," it establishes the state that is to be called Israel.
May 15 Egypt, Transjordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia go to war against the declared creation of Israel. The 1,700 residents of Jewish Quarter in Jersualem is bombarded by artillery.
May 28 In Jerusalem's Jewish Quarter, the Arab Legion takes as prisoners all males between the ages of 16 and 50 - about 310 people. The others are allowed to leave the area.

AGAIN READ THE WHOLE THING?

Nov 3 In the U.S., polling organizations are embarrassed and apologetic about their methods. They predicted that Dewey would win.

WELL BACK THEN ATLEAST THE SAID SORRY??

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Dec 19 Talks have broken down and the Dutch have started its second military offensive in Indonesia, including bombing the capital of the Indonesian republic, Jakarta, and taking Sukarno and other leading Indonesians prisoner. In the United Nations is outrage, and various Asian countries begin a boycott against the Dutch

TODAY THEY ATTACK BECAUSE OF CARTOONS??

Dec 31 Egypt bans the Muslim Brotherhood, but many are already out of Egypt, in Transjordan, where they are engaged in hostilities against Israel

HISTORY HAS THE ANSWER SOWE DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES BY FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND STAND TOETHER AND FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY AND TOSE WHO GIVE AID AND COMFORT TO THESE ISLAMIC TERRORIST BECAUSE THOSE WHO AID AND COMFORT A MURDER AND HIDE THEM FROM THELAW ARE AS GUILTY AS THE MURDER THEMSELVES

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM GIVE US VICTORY OVER THIS EVIL ENEMY AMEN

Posted by: Catherine at July 25, 2006 11:24 AM

Isn't it curious that the worst Jihad leaders seem to thrive and prosper and go uncaught -- even end up elected officials like Arafat did -- and yet we are all supposed to believe that it is only a minority of Muslims that sympathize with and support Jihad.

It's utter lunacy to believe such, and yet we have so many talking heads that continue to insist that it is so. I am reminded daily that the intelligence quotient Bell Curve is very real: all I have to do is turn on CNN and listen to the idiots.

The smartest end of the spectrum reads Jihad Watch.

Posted by: Foehammer at July 25, 2006 11:30 AM

I've noticed that the folks at theweeklystandard.com do not like to contemplate the possibility that jihad violence is rooted in religious ideology. It may be that this is simply too bleak a prospect to contemplate. Dan Darling's pieces seem to me to consistently miss this.

At the site today, there is also a piece by Stephen Schwartz, who rightly blames the Saudi govt for promoting jihad ideology, but limits his criticism to the Wahhabi sect.

The "neoconservative" mindset may be the death of us all.

A couple of years ago I corresponded with a significant contributor to the NRO site about my concerns, and he wrote back to assure me that Muslims across the world basically want the same things that "we" want. That's a perilous conceit.

I think that JW/DW is making a difference in perceptions in places of influence. Will it lead to policy changes in time? To borrow a phrase from Michael Ledeen (who I suspect doesn't fully "get it" yet himself), "faster, please."

Thanks Robert, Hugh and your associates.

Posted by: Dhimmisoftheworldunite at July 25, 2006 11:35 AM

Dhimmisoftheworldunite,

I agree. There’s a definite fear that the violent ideology may well be rooted in this so-called ‘religion of peace’ and, though the evidence is blatant and right in front of their eyes daily, they still cannot accept it. I was watching part of the ‘war show’ the other day on one of the main news channels (CNN, Fox, MSNBC …I don’t know which one –they’re all equally clueless, it appears) and this one supposed ‘expert’ on the ME claimed they had no idea where the source of the violence comes from. Amazing, isn’t it?

Doesn’t it almost feel as if we’re watching some people walking through a peaceful crowd wielding guns, taking potshots at various people and shooting them at point blank range and, the whole time, screaming defiantly that they’re peaceful and someone else is ultimately to blame? Instead of turning to confront these individuals and stopping them (we still outnumber them in most places, after all) the crowd just ignores it. The entire world sees the horrors, yet it’s largely ignored.

I know that JW/DW is definitely making a difference. Personally, I didn’t understand what any of this stuff was until 911 happened. I suppose, though it was the worst thing to happen, we can truly be thankful they’ve shown their ways to us.

Posted by: MaxInfidel at July 25, 2006 12:27 PM

Would I get arrested if I went to DC and protested by carrying a sign stating "Death to Islam", burning the Iranian flag, and hanging Aminigonad in effigy.

I would not last 30 seconds. At least I would have enough sense to call the main stream media ahead of time to ensure the cameras were availiable. They would then report an American lunatic arrested trying to spread hate and worldwide discord.

yeah buddy

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 25, 2006 1:01 PM

I think that many in the West believe the "it's your fault" rhetoric of the Islamists. Our enlightened judicial system recognizes mitigating circumstances which diminish the culpability of criminals. There are many circumstances that look to people in the West as mitigations of the violence of the Islamists --- poverty, the legacy of colonialism, present despotic governance, and so on.

So yes, MaxInfidel, people are pre-disposed to look away from the violent Islamists, and to hope that if we make things better somehow, they will be quieter. I think that is part of the motive underlying the present international gang-up on Israel, "please don't do anything to make these people more angry than they already are!"

And that is why it's crucial that people understand that the violence is not simply a reaction to bad circumstances in which the West may be implicated, but is native to the faith system. More and more people are "getting it".

Here is a provocative bit of speculative fiction that I found linked on NRO's "The corner" today. It's nice to think that those guys are noticing such things. They don't mention JW/DW (I think Andrew McCarthy has once or twice), but some of them are "getting it".

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm

This post generated a storm of criticism, which the author responded to in the next post:

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_05.htm

He answers the objections well. Even here though, the writer suggests that the problem is "radical" "Wahhabi" Islam, though he does recognize (and documents) how widespread jiahd thinking is even among non-Wahhabis, and that the radical vision is rooted in the ancient texts and traditions.

So this is an illustration that a measure of awareness is percolating into popular culture.

Again, I think that JW/DW deserved enormous credit for this.

Posted by: Dhimmisoftheworldunite at July 25, 2006 4:01 PM

clumsy fingers: that should be "deserves enormous credit"

Posted by: Dhimmisoftheworldunite at July 25, 2006 4:46 PM