'Kurtz: “To what extent do you feel like you're being used to put up the pictures that they want — obviously, it’s terrible that so many civilians have been killed —' -from the article

In addition to disclosing the limitations of his report, I sure wish he would put the 'civilian' casualties in perspective.

There's around 45,000 traffic deaths in the US every year, so, if my math is right, approximately 2700 people have died on our roads over the period of time that the 350 'civilians' were killed.

Its an interesting strategy: set the standards of success at an unachievable level in order to call us unethical and the war effort a failure. They want us to lose.

Posted by: limes at July 25, 2006 5:21 PM

you never how low the media can go until you read this story. l think next time they come up with polls on Bush's ratings, they should do one on the media, and l can tell you it will be in the single digits.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at July 25, 2006 5:22 PM

We knew - who could forget how you did Saddam the same favors due to the 'safety of your Baghdad staff'.

Biggest reason why we don't watch you.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 25, 2006 5:24 PM

Incidentally, have the Israelis put al Minar out of operation as yet?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 25, 2006 5:25 PM

Zena; Speaking of polls, isn't it odd that there haven't been any on the public's support of Israel's effort.

Those won't come out until the hit pieces have eroded public support.

Heaven forbid a poll be released about public sentiment on continued Arab immigration.

Posted by: limes at July 25, 2006 5:33 PM

Somewhat related: last night, on Special Report, one of the items raised was about how some House Dems want the invitation to Iraqi PM Maliki to be canned due to his condemnation of Israel. At the end, Charles Krauthammer called it 'grandstanding', asking, 'What's he going to do - say "I'm a Zionist?"'

Why not simply say nothing at all? It's not like he has nothing to do - every day, there is the Shia-Sunni Jihad on. And in the Sunni Arab world, there hasn't been an endorsement of Hizbullah. Given that his is ostensibly an 'unity' government, rather than a Shiite government, he could have simply said nothing.

The other possibility is that he is beholden to Moqtada al Sadr, who's in bed with Hizbullah. Fine, but in that case, the Dems are right. My suggestion - stage a walk-out when he's addressing Congress, and let him know that the (misplaced IMO) support for him in Iraq is limited to just that, and that his support for terrorist groups outside Iraq, even if Shia, will not be tolerated.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 25, 2006 5:37 PM

The fact that this was Hizbollah propaganda is and was obvious. This is a mute point though. There are no innocent civilians in Southern Lebanon. They support Hezbollah, as the recent elections prove. If you support Hezbollah then you support the destruction of Israel and therefore should be made accountable for the actions of those you elected and supported. This situation brings to mind General Sherman and his march to the sea during the civil war. Tactically the same problem presents itself. Strategically the same tactic should be employed.

Posted by: ethoman at July 25, 2006 5:46 PM

Israel is on the clock:

Posted by: Lumpy at July 25, 2006 6:31 PM

Israel should condemn CNN and deny any entry visa for CNN journalists.

Posted by: ssa at July 25, 2006 6:31 PM

Israel Is On The Clock

Posted by: Lumpy at July 25, 2006 6:36 PM

CNN is an outright TRAITOR!

Posted by: Alert at July 25, 2006 6:41 PM

From prior post Israel is on the clock.

The United States has given Israeli forces between 10 and 14 days to finish dealing Hezbollah “a strategic blow,” a senior Israeli Foreign Ministry official told FOX News, as both Israeli forces and Hezbollah guerrillas continued to volley rockets across the Lebanon-Israel border.

What a bunch of B.S. Terrorists attack us and we wage war all over without time tables only goals, and we will not give Israel the same consideration? This even though Israel sits in an even more tenuous posistion? I am ashamed.

Posted by: ethoman at July 25, 2006 6:57 PM

I thought there were many leaflets dropped. I have seen the interview, and my perception was the reporter was running in place, and being made a fool. Small price to pay for first hand media coverage, or big price to pay for looking like a fool? I would venture to say that history has once again repeated itself. So who is the fool?

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 6:58 PM

From earlier post. Whom are we trying to apease anyways? What we are afraid they'll want us more dead? The Bush administration thinks they will like us if we try to get Israel off of Hezbollahs back? The only thing they will respect from us is being crushed. They being Hezbollah.

Posted by: ethoman at July 25, 2006 6:59 PM

OK. Do me a favor, and tell me the differance between those that want to kill all non believers, and those that want to kill all zionist's and Americans and Israeli's. OK, maybe we should lighten the load. When should we all die, or be killed, or submit? Or why should anyone defend themselves? I am having trouble understanding Islam.

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 7:15 PM

The American government has "given" Israel 10 to 14 days to do exactly what it should be doing, the thankless task that neither the Lebanese government, over six long years, made any attempt at doing, what the U.N. never even thought it was required to do because of the guarantees made at the time of Israel's complete withdrawal from Lebanon, and what the Americans, incoherent in their policy, crazily giving Al Qaeda an importance it does not deserve (and in the process, permitting malevolent and meretricious Pakistan, General Mushharraf commanding, to make plans for 40-50 nuclear bombs a year, when Pakistan should be brought to its knees for what it already did in helping Iran and North Korea, in addition to supporting the Taliban and, slightly more covertly, the revial of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

As for the nonsense about a "new Middle East," and revivinig that "two-state solution" (remember, it must be a "solution" because otherwise they would not call it that, would they?), and of course continuing to prevent the very things we should be desiring -- ethnic and sectarian strife within Iraq, and then elsewhere in Dar al-Islam (in Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Pakistan, even Yemen between Sunnis and Shi'a; elsewhere between non-Arab Muslims, inspired by a free Kurdistan, now seeing clearly, for the first time, how Islam has been a vehicle for Arab supremacism), it all shows that they still fail to comprehend.

The best thing that has happened is not the "Iraq the Model" stuff and certainly not the Search for Bin Laden (who should be minimized if not ignored altogether, for focus on him creates the illusion that if he is caught, it means something, and that if Al Qaeda is dismantled, that means something too -- but the Jihad is permanent, the ranks of those joining the violent Jihad infinitely replenishable, and the instruments of Jihad other than terrorism are far more effective, and therefore far more dangerous, than the American government apparently realizes, for it pays no attention to the islamization of Western Europe).

Ten to fourteen days? Nonsense. Whatever it takes. And if the Pentagon has not yet sent observers to study the Iranian equipment the Israelis have discovered and seized, it should do so at once. Especially since it is likely that in Iraq, or outside Iraq, Iranian agents will be planning to attack American forces, as they did, through Hezbollah, when they blew up 241 Marines.

Those Marines were never properly avenged. Now Israel is doing it for the American government, and that government should have the wit to set no time for the mission to be complted. We would not take it kindly if an ally presumed to tell us how and for how long we could fight a war deemed essential for the safety of our cities; it is intolerable not to extend the same solicitousness to Israel, a much smaller, much more vulnerable target, surrounded by those who do not wish it well, who wish it, and permanently, ill.

Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2006 7:24 PM

I am beginning to think that Zionist is not derogatory in nature. I am beginning to think that Zionist means, freedom, security, stability, and a name that is more prone to praise than Nazism, Islamism, Marxism, and Maoism.

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 7:26 PM

Didn't the CNN President at least apologize when they admitted that they were used as Saddam's tool? No apology now. Yes, standards at CNN must be slipping. (Cue laugh track)

Posted by: scanderbeg at July 25, 2006 7:33 PM

Why would you ever think that Zionist is derogatory? It means a home for the Jews. Ergo, one doesn't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist - one could be any denomination of Infidel and support Jewish claims to Israel, Judea, Samaria, et al.

Similarly with terms like Infidel, Polytheist, and a whole bunch of other Islamic terms.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 25, 2006 7:35 PM

Hugh totally blows me away when he writes. I think I need a moment of silence for all Israeli's fighting what we Americans should. We stand together, know thine enemy, and forgive the US of A, for what it should do in this war, which we haven't.

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 7:35 PM

"I am beginning to think that Zionist means, freedom, security, stability, and a name that is more prone to praise than Nazism, Islamism, Marxism, and Maoism."
-- from a posting above

"Beginning to think"? Zionism was always a noble, and madly poetic undertaking. All intelligent dreamers should have supported it from the start. Possibly you have until now been misinformed about it. Possibly you live in one of those countries where the steady drip-drip-drip of pro-Arab propaganda, and complete inattention to the
1) history of the Middle East
2) history of the Jews in the Middle East
3) history of that area known in Western Christendom as the Holy Land and to Jews as the Land of Israel and to Arabs, until the last few decades, as nothing much at all (except as the place that must be denied to the Jews and to the Christians)
4) history of the area, particularly its land-ownership (90% of the land being state and waste land), governmental administration (two separate Ottoman vilayets and the sanjak of Jerusalem), and general condition, as described by visitor after visitor ("empty"; a place of "ruin"'; a place of "desolation"
5) League of Nations Mandates, including the disposition of Lebanon-Syria under a French mandate, Iraq (as a Hashemite monarchy set up by the British) and Jordan (as a Hashemite emirate, later elevated to something grander, set up by the British)
6) history of the attacks on Jews ("Zionists") before the state of Israel was declared, and the closing of Mandatory Palestine to all but a trickle of Jewish refugees when perhaps as many as a million might have been saved -- all in order to curry favor with the Arabs
7) history of the 1948 war, and the refusal after the war of the Arabs to make peace but to insist on the temporary nature of the armistice lines -- the very lines that some think Israel should be forced back to
8) 19,000 separate fedayeen attacks, from Egypt, on Israeli civlians, especially farmers, from 1949 to 1956, which explains Israel's Suez campaign.
9) Attacks from Jordan stopped by the activities of Unit 101 under Ariel Sharon, who engaged in punitive expeditions into Jordan.
10) Nasser closing the Suez Cana to Israel, blockading the Straits of Tiran, and demanding that the U.N. peace force in the Sinai be removed, all so he could, as he told cheering Cairene crowds from mid-May on, their numbers ever increasing, their hysteria ever mounting, that this time Israel would be finished off.
11) The Six-Day War, followed by Resolution 242 in which Lord Caradon and Ambassador Goldberg beat back Arab attempts to have the resolution demand withdrawal from "all the territories" taken in the recent conflict
12) Khartoum's Three No's: no Negotiation, no peace, and what was the third? I forget.
13) Post-1967 "birth of the Palestinian people" out of the local Arabs, based on the PLO charter of 1964, which did not mention such a people, but only the Palestinian Arabs as part of the great Arab people, etc.
14) PLO and the birth of plane hijackings, and all kinds of modern terrorism, which while officially deplored, led to ever greater legitimization of the PLO and proved that terrorism apparently worked.
15) Years of terror.
16) Surprise attack by Egypt and Syria in the Yom Kippur War.
17) More years of terrorist attacks on Israel.
18) Loser in the war, Egypt, instead of suing for peace, triumphantly demands that Israel give up every last inch of the Sinai, with the oilfields discovered by Israel, the three modern airfields built by Israel, and other infrastructure, which was worth, at the time, some $16 billion. Under pressure from Carter and Brzezinksi, who despised Begin and had not the slightest sympathy for him or for Israel (Carter: "I"m sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust"), pushed Israel to give up the Sinai, constituting 95% of the territory Israel had won in the Six-Day War, a clear war of self-defense, and to which its claim was at least as strong as that, say, of Italy to the Austrian Sudtirol that, after World War I, became the Alto Adige, not to mention all the other territorial changes after every single war.
Meanwhile, Carter and Brzezinski extracted nothing tangible from Saint Sadat, and what Egypt did promise -- not to engage in hostile propgaganda and to encourage friendship with Israel, was completely ignored, and has been ignored since, as Egypt has shown television series based on "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," allowed the smuggling of vast quantities of arms from Egypt to terrorists in Gaza, and otherwise done everything it could, diplomatically and in other ways, to damge Israel.

Shall I go on?

No need. Read up on the subject yourself. Possibly start with "Battleground" as a well-written summary of events, even if it does not pay any attention to Islam.

Possibly you have been fed that anti-Israel diet that makes you react badly to the word "Zionist" which is nothing more than the word given to those who think the Jews had a moral, legal, and historic right to return to the Land of Israel, to buy land (that's all they did before and during the entire Mandatory Period: buy land, from either the Ottoman government, or Arab landlords. And after the declaration of Israel's independence, in accordance with the clear intent of the Mandate for Palestine -- go read it, for god's sake -- the government of Israel inherited the "state and waste" lands that had been not the property of any individuals, but inherited from the now-defunct Ottomans by the British as Mandatory authority).

Time to see things afresh, if such is necessary. For others, time to be reconfirmed in what you knew all along.

Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2006 7:57 PM

Guess it's easier to ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission.

Posted by: champ at July 25, 2006 8:01 PM

Robertson's supposed explanation, no doubt forced upon him by those above him because they rightly sensed that Kurtz's points were irrefutable and CNN consequently had to do a little damage control, is unconvincing and entirely inadequate. It was obvious how and in what way he was allowing himself to be used. There was no need for him to do it. Explanations after the fact, and the expressed regret, when it is expressed only because he was taken publicly and unanswerably to task, and because the incredible tape of Robertson serving as a willing conduit for Hezbollah propaganda is there for all to see (let's see it by the way: let it be put up for all to see on the web, so we can play over and over, how a CNN reporter does Hezbollah's work for him, and let the thing be used in journalism courses on "The Duty of the Journalist").

He should be fired. Without question.

Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2006 8:02 PM

The Canadian media doesn't seem to care about the truth, their "Drive-by" reporting has lead to the incitement of hate for Israel and the USA.

It was only about 1 month after the Iraq liberation that a Doctor working in iraq told the truth about his mercy missions to help children.
Seems that Saddam made threats that if the Doctor
exposed any of the scams used on the media that he would be either jailed in Iraq or refused re-entry on his next mission.

The scam by Iraq was that the dead bodies of little children were stored in the coolers at the Hospital where the doctor offer care to the locals,and when Saddam needed anti-West/USA propaganda he took the dead children and put them amongst rubble or alleged bombed areas.
Afterwards, they went back into the coolers for the next photo-op, and I bet you if the media pulled all their archived photographs of children killed in Iraq you'll see the same faces with different clothes depending on the scam .

The media barely covered the report, it got a brief blurb as a video report and then a small report buried around page.5-8 in local newspapers.
All those claims of the US sanctions killing 500,000 Iraqi children were outright lies and Idiots in the west ate it up and formed the "Rent-A-Mob" yahoo's that protest over the slightest
perceived oppression by the USA or Bush.
So far I haven't heard one condemnation against Saddam for these child abuse scams to exploit the dead bodies of kids for his Political agenda.
John Kerry didn't even speak up .

Posted by: ala-sux at July 25, 2006 8:11 PM

it was obvious to everybody who saw it that Nic Robertson was taken on a tourist tour by Hizbollah. The same guy was touring the next day Belgian TV reporters. Hizbollah has apparently organised their tour guides very well and stupid Nic just belived what he was sayd.

Not much better is Becky Anderson! Everytime she hears about Israeli casualties she starts smiling. Any body observed that also. She probably receives special attention from Hisbollah escort boys to ensure her devotion to the case.

Posted by: nadineken at July 25, 2006 8:12 PM

I remember seeing this piece with the mute button on, but once there was sound it was apparent this was no mere tour of bombed out "civilian" areas.
The targets are the ORIGINS of the rocket fire, which in many cases may be someones living room or neighborhood street corner.

Those who support/conspire with Hezbollah and claim to be innocent victims in this conflict are just preaching to the usual choir. Nothing new there. You sleep with dogs, you know what you get... For their complicity, they get a war-zone and displacement. Now Hez is saying they may have "underestimated" Israel's response to this provocative action. Mess with the bull, get the horns, babe!

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott at July 25, 2006 8:15 PM

OK, and now for some good news about news:

First, there was a news report from the Los Angeles Times/Washington Post (sorry, I've lost the link) that stated quite clearly that the Isralei Air Force has been avoiding Christian areas and concentrating on the muslim Hezbollah strongholds. Shops are open in the Christian areas, except for most restaurants where the people are told not to congregate. There are not many shoppers, but things are open, etc.

Second (and I love this), there was a story on CNBC around mid-day. CNBC is a full time stock-market channel. The reporters are basically cynical and don't care much whether Israel smashes the hell out of Hezbollah, as long as the reporters get a good fix on the direction of oil prices and Teva Pharmaceuticals, Inc., doen't take a big hit (it's down only about five percent).

The clincher was a great report (I missed the name of the reporter), who showed the destruction of the BANKS that have been identified by the Mossad as funding Hezbollah. Hezbollah operatives are short of funds, now. There were eight bank branches in eight towns, and all were obliterated by precision bombs from F-16s. Another major bank source in Beirut was demolished, also. Then to top it off, there was a bank (the Arab-African Bank) in Beirut that had advertised on television for contributions to Hezbollah. The reporter called it up and asked where to make contributions in the United States. She (the reporter) was told that the bank has a correspondent relationship with Wachovia Bank, and that they would accept contributions, but warned the reporter not to say the money was for Hezbollah. CNBC notified Wachovia bank, which cancelled the relationship, or so it was reported.

And the cherry on top: The Arab-African Bank was left standing, but the bank manager's house was blown up instead.

All in all, it almost makes up for not buying that Esterline stock when I had the chance. Esterline makes those flares that the aircraft drop to divert heat-seeking missles. A nifty little product now in high demand.

Alas, I'm just learning to be a war profiteer. To quote one disappointed Colonel: "You know, someday this war is gonna end."

Posted by: texan at July 25, 2006 8:33 PM

WoW!

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 8:34 PM

And the 241 American Marines killed by Hizbullah, realy hit home. That will never be forgotten. Tough blow to recognize what has happened. Like WTC prior, like the Cole, Khobar Towers, like Mogahdishu, like Somalia, like Bosnia, like Darfur, like Cambodia, like Kosovo,like Sarajevo, like Chetznya, like Beslan, like London, like Spain, like Bali, like Indo everyday, like Kashmir, like Baghdad, like Egypt, like Hamburg, If I left one out, consult your local Islamic reform group. Like our Trade Centers falling on our heads and killing our civilians and firefighters and policemen. Who cried for those that have been killed? Hush now, don't say a word. Hard wad to swallow. Lest they be forgotten?

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 8:39 PM

We are one and the same, yet you have a deeper history, and a better understanding of why we fight.

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 8:43 PM

It is a travesty to see the western media play right into the hands of Islamic militants, who, in spite of telling us that our way of life is immoral, have eagerly adopted all our techniques and technology in order to maximize their political capital. I continually am amazed by the hypocrisy.

But, that's what we are up against. Thank goodness for the gradual emergence of a few networks that try for some balance.

Posted by: Stand fast in the liberty at July 25, 2006 8:44 PM

Off subject. This just in. Israel may have hit the useless UN observation post on thier northern border. If it was true could it be a revenge attack for being a pawn of Hezbollah. Could they have been feeding information to Hezbollah in radio transmissions, which were intercepted? Hard to imagine Israel just attacking unprovoked. Then again it was as useless as a zit on your face so why have it in your country.

Posted by: ethoman at July 25, 2006 8:47 PM

Zooboomafoo, you are so right. And your post reminds me that Richard Nixon (may he rest in peace) wrote a book called "The Real War" in response to Jimmy Carter's ineptitude.

Nixon's thesis was that we had better get on with defeating the Soviet Union because we would be facing a terrible new threat: RADICAL ISLAM.

A lot of people hated that man, but he sure knew something about global politics.

Posted by: texan at July 25, 2006 8:51 PM

Who Nixon, or Israel?

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 8:57 PM

My post reminds me that I should read up on my Middle East history, like what Israel has endeavored in recent years. Withdrawals, concessions, flat out submission, taxes. Jizza, the taq word, however you spell it, taquiyah maybe? Bullshit! I will pay nothing! I. E. nothing!

Posted by: zooboomafoo at July 25, 2006 9:16 PM

One has to wonder just how many news crews in the western democracies have been turned into unwitting propagandists for the Islamosphere's ruling elites and how long this has been going on. I mean just look at the state of the BBC nowadays, for God's sake!

My guess is that the situation has been going on long enough and has permeated the west deeply enough to make most of us very concerned. Much of Europe was turned against its Judeo-Christian roots and America as a result of this sort of slick Islamic infiltration and conditioning.

At least since we know what has been going on (creeping propagandization by Islam through Muslim access to western media outlets), we are better equipped to fight back against it.

Posted by: pythagoras at July 25, 2006 9:38 PM

The deceit has gone on as long as I can remember. I'd say it reared its ugly head under the Carter Administration, to gain the spotlight. We've always known right from wrong, but alas like commnunism ,indoctrination for old mo started with our children. We've reached a time even in America where we question are own beliefs. What is right and what is wrong. Show dead babies killed in the name of defence and I'll question. Abort them and ill say it's a right. Go figure?

Posted by: AMartinez at July 25, 2006 9:58 PM

"I will pay nothing! I. E. nothing!"
-- from a posting above

You have been paying the Jizyah along with all American taxpayers. You have paid a portion of the $60 billion sent to Egypt, which is not and never could be an ally of an Infidel country, but whose regime is clever enough at exploiting the memory of Saint Sadat, and has been engaged in a kind of blackmail, so that the American government keeps allowing itself to believe that it must continue to fund Egypt -- or else. Or else what? What can Egypt do that it is not already doing? It is a world center of antisemitism and anti-Americanism. The media campaigns against the United States have caused the Egyptians to be among the most hostile to Americans -- the source of that $60 billion -- of any people in the world. Egypt has failed, too, to live up to any of its solemn promises, made to Israel in the American-brokered, or rather, Carter-and-Brzezinski brokered (not to mention the whole anti-Israel galere or rogue's gallery (Gary Sick, William Odom, and so on) that was around to help hector the Israelis, give Sadat whatever he preposterously demanded (since when does the victor, Israel, in a series of wars have to beg and sue for peace from the loser?), and a year or two later, have time left over to help hand over Iran on a platter to Khomeini, while Carter and Brzezinski sat paralyzed, and when the Shah did fall, and Khomeini did appear triumphant in Teheran, Jimmy Carter wrote a letter hailing the monster as "a fellow man of faith."

You're paying that Jizyah to Egypt.

And you are helping to pay the billions that have gone to the PLO -- that is, the Palestine Authority, that is, to Arafat and his henchman. Billions disappeared when Arafat died. Hundreds of millions in American money ended up in the bank accounts of Suha Arafat (Arafat had gone through with a sham marriage for obvious political reasons), the rest no doubt split between the old apparatchiks such as Abbas.

And you are paying a Jizyah to Jordan. Once upon a time American taxpayers, through the CIA, paid for the visits to King Hussein's assorted Western hotel suites of assorted very expensive call girls (but then they extended that courtesy to so many others, such as Sukarno -- or was it Suharto?); now Jordan is given more, and granted most-favored-nation status which has resulted in the worst conditions of quasi-slave-labor, in Arab-owned textile factories, where non-Arab workers from Asia are lured, exploited, and often thrown out after a year or several without any pay. That's Jordan to whom you have been paying Jizyah. Did I forget to say that in opinion polls, Jordanians more than any other people on earth hate the Americans?

And you are paying for those billions in debt forgiven Pakistan, meretricious Pakistan, supporter of the Taliban in Afhganistan, supporter of Muslim terrorists in Kashmir and all over India. You are paying for the economic and military aid that Pakistan has been receiving from the United States for decades, and despite Dr. A. Q. Khan's theft of Western nuclear secrets which allowed Pakistan to produce nuclear weaopns, and despite the transfer of knowledge by Pakistan to both Iran and North Korea, you -- and I, and every American -- continues to pay Jizyah to Pakistan.

Like it? No, I thought you wouldn't. And I don't either. Write your Congressmen. Raise hell. Stop the Jizyah, to people whose belief-system makes them view us as their permanent enemies, and to behave, whenever they can, as if they really mean it.

Stop the damn Jizyah. (You may wish to google this phrase, and "Posted by Hugh" and see what you get). also a year later, did nothing to prevent the takeover of Iran by Khomeini

Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2006 10:29 PM

O.T. Looks like clinton really gave Lieberman the real kiss of death! If my memory serves me correct, all clinton adorned with his grace, he soon was defeated.

Posted by: AMartinez at July 25, 2006 10:53 PM

Pythagoras wrote: "At least since we know what has been going on (creeping propagandization by Islam through Muslim access to western media outlets), we are better equipped to fight back against it."

I recommend http://www.honestreporting.com/

Posted by: Ozi_bloke at July 25, 2006 10:58 PM

UN Peacekeepers As Human Shields?

Posted by: Lumpy at July 25, 2006 11:17 PM

zooboomafoo (7:35 pm)

I think I need a moment of silence for all Israeli's fighting what we Americans should.

How about
A prayer for Israel (Psalm 83)
as well.

Posted by: justamomof4 at July 25, 2006 11:39 PM

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000895.html

Posted by: Carolyn2 at July 26, 2006 12:23 AM

Carolyn2, that's the reason I don't call muslim males men. They are just males. Because they are so cowardly and hide behind women and children, they cannot rightfully be called men.

Posted by: freewoman at July 26, 2006 1:00 AM

The same propaganda is still being shown on all British networks, some camp high-pitched whiney Arab in a pink shirt who keeps yelling at the ever obliging cameras "shoot me! SHOOT ME!" (if only), scurrying the confused news crews through the rubble of their glorious antisemitic war machine, and asking (us, apparently) if this was a military area? The reporters barely have time to draw breath and make a few confused remarks about "proportionality" before being forced to leg it back out again, as if the Air Force are about to return any second to bomb the piles of smoking ruins that now comprise the rabid Party of Dogs urban 'strongholds'. Hardly any of these household name news anchors has, during the course of proceedings, asked the Hezballah PR fairy whether this was, in fact, a Hezballah (terrorist) installation, instead most have meekly repeated their Hezballah press-releases that "this was a civilian area", as if that wasn't obvious. Bunch of tools, the lot of them.

Regarding the UN reps killed, interesting that Kofi immediately accused Israel of targeting them deliberately. An Israeli minister responded that his remarks were unfounded and premature, and that he was sure Mr Annan would rescind his accusations once he was in posession of the full facts. In making public such an bold assumption, Kofi seems to be betraying a guilty conscience... Almost as if there was good reason to suspect it was some kind of retaliation or counter-measure. One wonders what's on his mind..?

Posted by: Domestos at July 26, 2006 2:24 AM

Heard this lady today on Michael Savage. Another trooper spreading the truth about islam, the religion of shame.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/

Posted by: freetoBEfree at July 26, 2006 3:00 AM

How do we always manage to have one segment of our news media "taken in?"

Posted by: Nashville Gene at July 26, 2006 4:15 PM

People are free to be lazy of mind, ignorant of fact and complicit in behavior in the west. It used to be up to a point... although some daeys I wonder if that's even true anymore.

The choice will be simpler after the next catastrophe on American soil. That's what it's going to take to set the U.S. gestalt onto task and I'm afraid we'll get the medicine we need because we can't stay on task.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at July 26, 2006 5:27 PM