Israel should destroy all UNIFIL posts in Lebanon, so that the question on whether to renew their mandate or not next month becomes a rhetorical one. Like I said in the earlier post, Kofi Annan and the UN mandarins have only themselves to blame if more UN officials are killed. After all, what could/did they do last year when Iraqi terrorists blew up the UN mission in Baghdad, killing among others, Sergio DeMello?

Given what a toxic force for evil the UN is, their personnel in these countries should be targetted by Israel for elimination. Same goes for Hizbullah embedded media, like Nick Robertson.

It would be even funnier if a resultant UN resolution condemning Israel for their deaths gets vetoed.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 26, 2006 5:42 PM

http://cbc.ca/metromorning/media/20060726LMCJUL26.ram

This CBC radio link is from my post about 4:30pm EST, a Canadian General confirms at the 4 Minute mark that the UNIFIL Canadian had emailed him recently and made it clear the Hezbollah used them as shields by waging war from as close as 10 Feet .

This explains the IAF close shooting , plus the Canadian hasn't been found yet and maybe he was kidnapped and being held by Hezbollah.

Posted by: ala-sux at July 26, 2006 5:49 PM

An interview with Canadian General Lewis Mackenzie, who served in Gaza and in the Sinai, and knows both sides of the conflict, can be picked up at www.littlegreenfootballs.com. In it Mackenzie notes the "unbelievably low" number of casualties which, he says, reflects the careful targetting by Israel, and he goes on to note as well that the Israelis have everywhere warned civilians well in advance to leave, a practice he described as unprecedented in warfare. He also discusses his own email from the Canadian member of the U.N. force that was hit, and who was among the four killed, describing how Hezbollah was deliberately planting itself, and firing at Israelis from, right next to, three meters away from, the U.N. structure. Three meters -- that is, nine feet away. Hezbollah, which as Jan Egeland said in denouncing them as "cowards" who, he had been informed by Shi'a who had arrived from south Lebanon, had been well-pleased with their strategy of deliberately hiding among women and children as much as possible, firing from among them, and of course the Israelis, who are themselves firing back from thousands of feet away, cannot possibly always and everywhere be aware of, fire back at the positions identified. And here we see another example of it -- not women, not children, but firing, as the Canadian soldier emailed, within nine feet of the U.N.

Kofi Annan the corrupt, Kofi Annan the vicious, Kofi Annan the man who, by his deliberate inaction in Rwanda (see the memoirs of not Mackenzie, but another Canadian general, Romeo Dallaire, who went over the heads of the local U.N. representatives, including the Camerounian M. Booh-Booh, and begged Annan to let him intervene early on in Rwanda, to prevent mass killings, and Annan turned him down flat, and repeatedly), and by his deliberate inaction in southern Sudan, where for two decades Arab Muslims have been killing and deliberately starving to death black African non-Muslims, is responsible for the deaths of more black Africans than any man in history, with the possible exception of Leopold of Belgium, Kofi Annan who had two weeks to remove the U.N. personnel who are being put in danger everywhere by Hezbollah forces firing rockets from right beside those U.N. positions, Kofi Annan dares to accuse Israel of anything. Kofi Annan long ago lost the moral right to accuse Israel of anything. He, and his "Chief Speechwriter," Edward Mortimer, illegitimate Edward, a man who has always found Israel deeply antipathetic, but on the other hand was, reporting from Tehran as a journalist, witness to the arrival of the Ayatollah Khomeini after the Shah fell, and reported breathlessly in "The Spectator" (or was it "The Times"?) that "'This is quite the most glorious morning in the history of humanity'" to quote Charles James Fox." For more on Edward Mortimer, Chief Speech Writer and "Senior Adviser" to Kofi Annan, simply google "Posted by Hugh" and "Edward Mortimer." For more on Kofi Annan, see Claudia Rosett, see a thousand articles detailing his corruption, his hypocrisy, his venality, his stupidity, his viciousness. I never thought anyone could give Kurt Waldheim, the Nazi war criminal (Operation Kozara, Salonika, and so much else) a run for his money as worst Secretary-General of the U.N. I see that I was wrong.

Posted by: Hugh at July 26, 2006 6:05 PM

"UN officials said that the monitors made ten phone calls to the Israeli army between 1.20pm on Tuesday — when an Israeli aircraft dropped a bomb 300 metres from the patrol base — and about 7.20pm, when the building was destroyed."

-Timesonline.co.uk

See: UN observers begged Israelis to stop shelling their position, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2287599,00.html

What about Israel's repeated attacks on UN forces in previous missions in Gaza. Were those attacks errant missles too?

Posted by: Kafir Nonbeliever at July 26, 2006 6:14 PM

http://www.michellemalkin.com/
Hezbollah and the U.N.
BY MICHELLE MALKIN • JULY 26, 2006 02:38 PM

A picture worth a thousand words:

guess koffi didn't see this one??

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTORY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN

Posted by: Catherine at July 26, 2006 6:19 PM

One question that needs to be asked: since the Israelis have been leafletting all over south Lebanon, telling non-combatants to leave, and since apparently the U.N. forces still there knew that Hezbollah was deliberately placing itself as close to the U.N. buildings as it could -- a mere nine feet away, according to the email received by General Lewis Mackenzie from the Canadian soldier who was among the four U.N. solidrs killed -- why were those U.N. personnel not withdrawn? If they were bound to be used by Hezbollah in such a manner, it is ludicrous to assume that artillery from three miles away will always hit the correct target, and it is ludicrous to assume, in the heat of war, that alerting-by-phone-call will always be transmitted to those doing the shelling or, from the air, bombing. The Israelis, like the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, have experienced their own cases of friendly fire, and have fired in some cases, by mistake, on their own troops. In Iraq at least one American plane bomed an American convoy, and in Afghanistan Americans by accident killed six Canadian soldiers among the NATO forces.

Why didn't Kofi Annan withdraw those troops? He has had two weeks to do it. He knew, or should have known, exactly what was going on in South Lebanon. He knew, or should have known, about the leafletting. He knew, or should have known, that the Israelis could not simply hold their fire if, despite all those warnings, others than the combatants chose to remain. What was the point of not pulling out those U.N. soldiers, other than to provide Hezbollah with other hostages to hide behind? It is not the responsibility, in such cases, of any country waging war to do more than Israel did. And the same goes for other Western forces, doing their best to minimize casualties, but under no obligation to allow others to provide a kind of permanent sancutary for an enemy that prides itself, as Jan Egeland said, on its abilty to avoid taking casualties by hiding among women and children.

Again, a question for Kofi Annan: why did you not pull those few U.N. forces out of the hottest, and most confused and confusing and therefore dangerous battle zone, right now, in the entire world?

Tell us. We want to hear.

Posted by: Hugh at July 26, 2006 6:28 PM

Yes, that is what you get if you place your outposts next to hezbollah strongholds.

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/upload/2006/07/flags.jpg

Posted by: DrWolffenstein at July 26, 2006 6:29 PM

From Rwanda to Sudan. The horrible little African Dictator would better serve us by concentrating on fraud scams being worked by him, his minions, his criminal son, and Paul Volcker. Maybe Kofi could return to his alma mater, that pissant finishing school McAllister College in St. Paul MN. That'd be great, seeing student clowns sitting at the feet of the master crook-clown.

Camerounian M. Booh-Booh

That Carounian M. Booh-Booh was, or still is, presiding over anybody's haid is deeply disturbing.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 26, 2006 6:36 PM

Atlas tells it like it is.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/antisemitismmodern_argument_to_age_old_hate/index.html

Posted by: Carolyn2 at July 26, 2006 7:05 PM

The UN has collaborated with Arab combatant forces against Israel for many years.

For example, on October 7, 2000, in a clear violation of international law, Hizbullah terrorists crossed the Lebanese border into Israel, ambushed three Israeli soldiers on Mount Dov, and took them back to Lebanon. Hours after the abduction, two abandoned vehicles were found by the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL).On the morning of October 8, an Indian UNIFIL worker videotaped the vehicles while his co-workers removed contents and tried to tow one of the cars away. The end of the film shows armed Lebanese (allegedly Hizbullah) fighters intercepting the vehicles. For almost nine months, high ranking U.N. officials, including U.N. Middle East envoy Terje Larsen and U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, denied possessing any videotape related to the kidnapping. Under pressure, The U.N. then conceded recordings exist, but refused to turn over the tapes, citing a desire to remain neutral in the region. Finally, ten months after the incident, the U.N. agreed to allow Israel to view the videotapes under the condition that the tapes would be edited in order to obscure the faces of the kidnappers.

In the present strike there are indications that the UNIFIL post that was hit by Israeli fire on July 26, 2006 was harboring observers of dubious origin.

DEBKAfile reports: "

The holier-than-thou tone of outrage taken by Annan is surprising when it generally known that many UN missions are exploited as the cover for foreign agents, often hostile, to carry out spying operations in war zones. The inadvertent Israeli air strike revealed the fact that the UN force in Lebanon includes Chinese observers. One was killed along with an Austrian, a Canadian and a Finn. The presence of Chinese observers keeping an eye on the combat in South Lebanon has never before been reported.

It would be interesting to learn more about such activities within the UN organization, such as how do these observers get selected to these posts in Lebanon, a very interesting story - that is if it will ever get reported on properly.

Posted by: Hugo Schmidt-Fischer at July 26, 2006 7:06 PM

Kia ora

First of all, I support unhindered Israeli action in the region. Israel is in a fight for its survival and should take all necessary steps to wipe out Hizbollah and Hamas. In doing so, Israel has taken great care to minimise civilian casualties.

Israel's strike on the UNFIL post is tragic but clearly not deliberate. Infidel Pride, you are an absolute lunatic and a fuckwit. You wrote: "Israel should destroy all UNIFIL posts in Lebanon".

There are peacekeepers at these posts, including New Zealanders. Who are you to condemn them to death? What gives you the moral imperative? Guess who has teh legal authority to block peace keeping missions? The permanent members of the Security Council, including the United States.

Infidel Pride, while everyone here should challenge Islamic terrorism, we should also challenge unintelligible idiots like you. For the comments above, you are a disgrace. Not even a solemn word for the peace-keepers who were killed. According to your rationale they deserved it. What a real man you are.

Hugh, regarding your question, only the Security Council can unilaterally pull peacekeeping forces out, not Annan.

Cheers
TH

Posted by: Haidon at July 26, 2006 7:21 PM

I apologise to readers for using innapropriate language in my posting above.

Posted by: Haidon at July 26, 2006 8:34 PM

"only the Security Council can unilaterally pull peacekeeping forces out, not Annan."
-- from a posting above

Two Questions:

1. Were these official peacekeepers? What peace were they keeping? Israel pulled out six full years ago. What were they doing there? If they were there to monitor the "demilitarization" solemnly promised Israel when it pulled its troops out, did they monitor it? Did they send reports back about the Hezbollah bunkers and missile installations? A thousand reports? A hundred reports? Ten reports? None?

2. In May 1967 Nasser asked U Thant to pull U.N. troops out of the Sinai. Did this come before the Security Council? I ask, because I find it hard to believe that had it, the United States would not have vetoed it.

End of questions.

Posted by: Hugh at July 26, 2006 8:37 PM

Posted by: Haidon at July 26, 2006 07:21 PM

Tommy boy how goes changeing your mulsum world??

Not to good last time I cked they [mulsums] are killing others all around the world and not many mulsums protesting for peace anywhere that I can see??

And what about those mulsums who killed the school teacher in Tialand infount of his students yes the poor Budditist man yes the wonderful world of mulsums??

Hugh you get 3 Gold Stars today!!!

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Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER ISRAEL TOO GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM EXPOSE THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN

PS
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/7/24/121616.shtml?s=os
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Monday, July 24, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT
Cuba Drills for Oil 60 Miles Off U.S. Coast
With Congress deadlocked over allowing oil drilling in presently restricted areas of the Gulf of Mexico, communist Cuba is already drilling for oil 60 miles off the coast of Florida.
WHERE ARE THE GREENIES ALL TRYING TO STOP THIS I CAN’T HEAR THEM??
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/7/24/101828.shtml?s=os
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Monday, July 24, 2006 10:14 a.m. EDT
Buy Your Own Russian Prison
For sale: An 18th-century prison in the heart of Moscow.
http://www.arutzsheva.com/article.php3?id=6395
A Sleepless Night in a Bomb Shelter With Rabbi Kook
by Chanan Morrison
Jul 20, '06 / 24 Tammuz 5766

The first ever aerial bombardment of civilians took place on January 19, 1915, when German Zeppelins dropped 24 high- explosive bombs over several English towns. Over the next three years, the Germans would drop 5,800 bombs over England, killing 557 people and injuring 1,358.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/25/121515.shtml?s=lh
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Immigration's New Trojan Horse
Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
Tuesday, July 25, 2006

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/26/93712.shtml?s=lh
Rice: No Return to 'Status Quo' in Middle East
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, July 26, 2006
ROME -- U.S., European and Arab officials holding crisis talks on Lebanon failed to agree Wednesday on details for a cease-fire to end the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah guerrillas.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the United States favored urgently ending the fighting but said there cannot be a return to a "status quo" of political uncertainty and instability in Lebanon.

Why again should we save these people again why did we save Kuwait again??

WHY SHOULD WE CARE AGAIN ABOUT THESE PEOPLE IN LEBANONS SOUTH WHO HARBOR ISLAMIC TERRORIST?

LET’S look at this for days the Israelis have made phone calls dropped flyers and said if you don’t get out you will be in the way and get kill and yet none have left so again do we really want these people in the jean pool??

Kaugt arrest of 40 people we know this is what the Islamic terrorist like to chew??

Will the Democrats bash the Democrats who did not vote to denounce the hesabella what was it 8 democrats voted against the resolution ? Just something to show how they are all show and no---

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5214776.stm
Wednesday, 26 July 2006
Glaxo has bird flu 'breakthrough'
Glaxo has yet to publish the results of its tests.
HUMMM

Mr Garnier said he recently met US President George W Bush to discuss the vaccination programme.
Following that meeting, Glaxo received $272m (£148m) of funding, earmarked in part to develop new technologies to produce vaccines.
If there were a pandemic outbreak in the early autumn, mass manufacture of Glaxo's vaccine could probably be started quickly by collaborating with rival pharmaceutical companies.
Glaxo said it was also talking to the Gates Foundation about how to provide the vaccine to poorer, developing countries.
HUMM

Glaxo has yet to publish the results of its tests.
HUMM

Firstly, there is uncertainty over how many doses can be manufactured quickly, and how easy it would be to switch from laboratory testing to mass production.
And secondly, it is not clear how effective the vaccination would be if H5N1 were to mutate significantly
HUMM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4836428.stm
Thursday, 23 March 2006
Bird flu confirmed in West Bank
The deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu virus has been found in poultry in a Jewish settlement the West Bank, the Israeli agriculture ministry has said.
Initial tests found dozens of birds had died of the virus on Wednesday in the Bekaot settlement in the Jordan Valley.
Bird flu was also found on Wednesday in the southern Gaza town of Rafah, on the border with Egypt
Acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has instructed Israeli officials to offer the Palestinian Authority assistance in order to prevent the spread of the virus in Palestinian areas.
On Tuesday, neighbouring Egypt reported its fourth suspected case of bird flu in humans. Earlier this month, Egyptian state TV said a woman had died from the H5N1 virus.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5215610.stm
Wednesday, 26 July 2006
Thailand records bird flu death
A 16-year-old boy in Thailand has died of bird flu, local officials have said.
The teenager, from the northern province of Pichit, is the 15th person to die of the virus in the country and the first fatality this year.
Officials in Pichit recently confirmed Thailand's first outbreak of the virus among poultry for eight months.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5011210.stm
Wednesday, 24 May 2006
Alarm at human bird flu cluster
The World Health Organization (WHO) says it is extremely worried about a cluster of recent human deaths from the virulent H5N1 strain of bird flu.
Seven people from the same family in northern Sumatra, Indonesia, died from the disease earlier this month.
READ
All seven people who died were members of the same family. An eighth family member is also thought to have the disease
So far investigators know that the initial victim was a woman, who became ill at the end of April. She died in early May and was buried before laboratory tests could be carried out.
The subsequent six victims - all of whom were positively identified as having the virus - had close and prolonged exposure to either her or other family members with the disease, the WHO said.
NOW THEY SAID THEY WERE ALL FAMILY NOW THEY SAY EXPOSURE TO HER OR HER FAMILY??

But the organisation says there is so much grief in the village that it is difficult for officials to get enough co-operation from local people to do their job
YEP MULSUMS?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5197110.stm
Thursday, 20 July 2006
Indonesia bird flu deaths hit 42
Indonesia has recorded its 42nd human bird flu death, bringing the country level with Vietnam as the worst affected by the disease.
Tests by the World Health Organization showed that a 44-year-old man who died last week had the H5N1 virus, health ministry officials said.
Indonesia has registered more bird flu deaths this year than any other nation.

Posted by: Catherine at July 26, 2006 8:51 PM

Israel's strike on the UNFIL post is tragic but clearly not deliberate. Infidel Pride, you are an absolute lunatic and a fuckwit. You wrote: "Israel should destroy all UNIFIL posts in Lebanon".

There are peacekeepers at these posts, including New Zealanders. Who are you to condemn them to death? What gives you the moral imperative? Guess who has teh legal authority to block peace keeping missions? The permanent members of the Security Council, including the United States.

First of all, tell me how you really feel ;->

My views on the UN have been spelt out on this site on a number of occasions. Succinctly put, I believe, as do many, that the UN is an evil organization, dominated by a blend of Islamic and Left leaning regimes worldwide, which all right thinking countries should start leaving in droves. As someone on radio put it, if you mix pound cake with doo-doo, guess what the mixture would taste like! Since you think I am unintelligible, let me know which part of the above statements do you not understand.

Hugo Schmidt-Fischer points out above how UNIFIL vehicles were used by Hizbullah on a previous occasion to abduct Israeli soldiers. Also, the presence of UNIFIL 'observers'/'peacekeepers' in such areas serves more as an impediment to the more scrupulous side (i.e. Israel), while the unscrupulous side (i.e. Hizbullah) is free to use these as cover to launch their attacks. I am opposed to Israel having to fight with one hand tied behind its back, while Hizbullah is free to attack without any constraints. Don't talk to me about the condemnations of Hizbullah by the G8 or even the Arab League: what military consequences (outside what Israel is doing) does Hizbullah face? Therefore, the quicker the Israelis eliminate UNIFIL, or, if you prefer, expel them, the better. Hopefully, those brave UN peacekeepers can flee to Damascus, but if they can't, and the IDF did what I advocate, their blood would be on the hands of the UN, not Israel.

Also, the UN 'Peacekeeping Forces' have been completely worthless, not only in Lebanon, but as Hugh noted above, in Rwanda. Even worse, in Congo/Zaire, it was UN troops were involved in the rapes of the local populace. I know there are noble soldiers from New Zealand and a lot of countries (my sister's ex boyfriend served with UN peacekeepers in Sierra Leonne); however, if you think that those facts alone would drive me to thinking that the UN is a force for good, or that their personnel are deserving of any sympathy, you are mistaken.

As for these 'peacekeepers', their 'interim' term is coming up for renewal. Time for the US to veto any continuance of their worthless 28-year long presence. Even if it's renewed, given the current fighting, it's unlikely that any country would want to volunteer its troops for this exercise.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 26, 2006 9:07 PM

Infidel Pride

Thanks for your response. I was harsh, but I thought what you wrote was ignorant. But I apologise to you for calling you a "fu*&wit" and an idiot.

The UN is not an EVIL organisation in and of itself. The UN can only be as effective as its sum parts. While there are individual nations withing the UN who are evil, the UN is not. I worked for UNHCR and for UNICEF. The missions i took part in, did a great deal of good, feeding and helping Ethiopian and Eritrean, and Southern Sudan refugees. I did not see any evil in the mission we undertook.

THE SECURITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHES THE MANDATE AND OPERATION OF PEACEKEEPING FORCES. WHY DID PEACEKEEPING FAIL IN RWANDA? BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES PREVENTED A FULL MANDATE. AS A PERMANENT MEMBER OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL IT VETOED A COMPREHENSIVE PEACEKEEPING FORCE. (I'm not making judgments, the massacre in Somalia obviously played a role).

A Peace-keeping mission can only be as robust as the Security Council can make it.

Indifidel Pride, I agree that the US should veto future peace-keeping there.

Hugh

I'm currently doing some quick research to back what I said, and to answer your questions. The Security Council is responsible for establishing the copmosition and mandate of UN Peacekeeping Operations. The Secretary General, from what I understand has an advisory and reporting role, as do other special rapporteurs.

Here is some accessible information on peace-keeping: http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/dpko/intro/

Cheers
TH

Posted by: Haidon at July 26, 2006 9:21 PM

I was technically inaccurate above in describing the vehicles as UN vehicles; as Hugo pointed out, the abandoned vehicles were found near an UN post. But the underlining point - UNIFIL complicity in the Hizbullah abduction - stands.

Man, this site is really bogged down with DOS attacks.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 26, 2006 9:28 PM

Hugh

My above answer is a bit simplistic (what else is new). While the Security Council mandate peace-keeping operations, individual states can withdraw their forces for any reason at any time. This is because the UN has no army and relies on teh contibutions by individual nations.

Posted by: Haidon at July 26, 2006 9:37 PM

Haidon-

The host state can force a withdrawal at anytime, as Egypt did, can they not? And how dangerous does it have to get to call for an emergency withdrawal (pre-mandate)? I have not found an example of this being done before.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at July 26, 2006 9:54 PM

Haidon

Apologies accepted - although I was more amused than offended.

I guess the differences may be philosophical, but I believe that when an organization makes a moral equivalence between two parties - one good, another evil, that organization is itself evil. And it's not even a case of neutrality between the two - you know how there have been umpty anti-Israel resolutions (which would have been a gazillion had it not been for US vetoes), but none against the Arabs, or Muslims, for starting, say the 1948 or 1973 wars. And the latter wasn't due to any Soviet veto - it was more that such a resolution wouldn't have had the required ten(?) members backing it, and would have been non-starters. Also note how Israel has forcefully been kept out of the Asian group in the UN, and therefore permanently out of the UNSC, even though it is a legitimate member of the UN.

In fact, an objective assessment of the UN would show that the only time they have been effective was in North Korea, where a Soviet walk-out prior to the resolution being brought up prevented a veto, and enabled international troops to wage war on North Korea and Red China. That was the only instance in history that the 'international community' acted.

As for UN organizations, UNICEF and WHO are the only organizations worth writing home about. I've described the UNSC above; UNHCR has throughout history made the same sort of moral equivalency statements between good and evil (e.g. equating the actions of Indian troops in Kashmir with those of Fidayeen); UNESCO and ILO had for long been a propaganda arm of world socialism (ILO was the only UN organization with hq in Prague, and that was during the Cold War); then there is the ICJ which tried to pull of the WCC (World Criminal Court) where legitimate soldiers of any country could be tried for war crimes. Not to mention the ICJ stating that the al Qaeda terrorists at Gitmo are entitled to Geneva convention protections, even though they are not legitimate soldiers of war in the way the US Army, or the IDF is.

You do good work in the missions you took/take part in. While some of them are undoubtedly good, what makes the UN as a whole worthless is its drawing a moral equivalence between good and evil. As it is, the UN has no real authority, and the only way it can be effective is when it's perceived to have moral authority. However, that is impossible when it is dominated by decrepit organizations like the Non-Aligned Movement (Non Aligned with what? The Communist bloc is out of business) and the OIC, among others. Given that, the sooner it's dismembered, and a more limited number of democracies replace it, the better. Something similar to NATO, except with totally different geo-political alignments.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 26, 2006 9:54 PM

Shame on the media for not giving this the coverage it deserves. Reuters are still harping on the UN warning Israel many times before the bombing. China (now THAT'S a laugh) are condemning it! Then,as I predicted several days ago on another topic on this site, Reuters is now running an article where doctors in Lebanon are claiming that Israel is using illegal chemical weapons. I SAID this would happen just as it did on the Gaza beach. These devils are desperate and will do whatever it takes to get out of the corner Israel has put them in. I wouldn't even be surprised if some of the internation community were helping Hezbollah in this way. I have NO respect for the UN and NO respect for an internation community that doesn't have the balls to call a terrorist a terrorist. As always, the EU, UN, etc. will bow down to 'quiet, background pressures' and will show their hateful anti-Semetic selfs for what they are. They all make me sick. Pray for Israel because the demons are striking out with clever tricks and the world community is stupid enough to buy it. Pray that Jehovah God rips their jaws, yanking them from their hiding places and exposing the liars to the whole world....including those who would run stories to create problems for Israel. I pray that Reuters crumbles and rots and fails completely.

Posted by: The Goobs at July 26, 2006 9:56 PM

Now we know why Kofis rhetoric has gone from heated to mousey in just 24 hours. He doesn't want an investigation showing his friends the Hezbos using UN facilities as cover and UN peacekeepers as shields. It could be almost as embarrassing as Oil for Food.

Posted by: OLDPUPPYMAX at July 26, 2006 10:22 PM

Film of Islamic terrorists using a UN ambulance as a getaway vehicle. Just how much of this is going on?

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6079659052676503126

Posted by: Yojimbo at July 26, 2006 03:05 PM

Gold Star for you today!!

That was the link I was looking for yesterdy put a feather in your cap!!!

Here is some things people might want to remember about history??

http://www.mpvone.co.uk/polish/casino.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassino
The Battle of Monte Cassino (
The only feasible routes from Naples to Rome led through the Liri valley and along the west coast; the two major roads to Rome took these routes. Blocking the south entrance to this valley was the hill mass around the town of Cassino. Excellent observation from the peaks of several hills allowed the German defenders to detect Allied movement, prevent any advance northward, and direct artillery fire on Allied units.
At the 1100 metre peak of Monte Cassino stood the 1300 year old Benedictine Monastery. It was not clear whether German troops were using the thick stone buildings of the monastery in their defensive position. Some Allied units reported seeing German troops in the monastery; German units denied allowing any of their men into the monastery itself. What is clear is that once the monastery was destroyed, the Germans made use of the rubble to build defensive positions
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011867.php
June 17, 2006
West: A war that isn't

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/brochures/romar/72-20.htm

Rome-Arno
22 January-9 September 1944
Rome was quiet on the morning of 4 June 1944. Propaganda leaflets dropped during the early morning hours by order of the commander of the Allied 15th Army Group, General Sir Harold R. L. G. Alexander, urged Romans "to stand shoulder-to-shoulder to protect the city from destruction and to defeat our common enemies." Even though the retreating Germans had declared Rome an open city, citizens were urged to do everything possible to protect public services, transportation facilities, and communications. "Citizens of Rome," the leaflets declared, "this is not the time for demonstrations. Obey these directions and go on with your regular work. Rome is yours! Your job is to save the city, ours is to destroy the enemy."

MIGHT WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING!!
AND DESTROY WE DID IN SOME PLACES!!

Part of the American Tribe
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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPOR THEM GIVE US VICTORY OVER THIS ENEMY AMEN

Posted by: Catherine at July 26, 2006 10:40 PM

Canada's very own Public broadcaster ( CBC )
started off a news report this afternoon
by introducing it as "Israeli bomb kills canadian UNIFIL observer" .

What shocked me was that in most murder cases you need a "Body" to prove the person was actually killed and missing , but the CBC somehow held its own inquiry from 5000 miles away and the verdict was "The Jews" did it.
The 5th anniversary of 9/11 is coming up and the CBC still won't call the terrorists "Muslims" or even link "Islam" to the attack on civilians, what's worse is the CBC avoids mentioning that 24 Canadians were also slaughtered by this Muslims
and the Liberal Party actually embraced the Khadr-Family and CAIR-canada.

The CBC loves to use the "Alleged" claim for any story about Muslim or Arab criminals in canada, but amazingly while the same CBC mocked a Consevative Politician for being a Christian and bringing his values into the Media and Politics,this same CBC has taken sides with Hezbollah by mocking our Leader for standing by a fellow U.N. Member and Democratic Country that is only defending itself.

After the Theo van Gogh murder in public by a Muslim offended with free-speech, it looks like the Islamofascists have inflicted Psychological terror on the Canadian Media as part of enforcing Islam by-proxy.
The 17 Jihadists arrested for plotting to murder Canadians with 6600 lbs of amonium nitrate explosives are still called "Alleged" bombers and
as their guilt starts to ooze out they are becoming the expected "untrue" Muslims that hijacked Islam .

Posted by: ala-sux at July 26, 2006 10:45 PM

I'm trying to picture Haidon's sock-puppet in a little blue UN helmet.

Posted by: Mike_W at July 26, 2006 10:48 PM

I'm sure glad Hizbollah guerillas are shooting at UN flunkies for the Islamosphere--particularly as it saves us Americans from having to do so.

Posted by: pythagoras at July 26, 2006 10:54 PM

BTW

Even though there is one of Toronto's oldest Mosques near my area , it's pointless to try a silent protest out front because the cops would wisk me away and if i was assaulted by Muslims they would say I incited the Muslims to attack me.

This is worse than the Nazis because Hezbollah/Hamas/Islamists don't wear uniforms
to be accountible for their atrocities agaisnt civilians,and Mosques can be used to wage war while demanding protection as a Holy-site" .
Just to piss-off some Muslims in Canada I plan to pump some money into my retirment fund via Israel-Bonds that pay a fair return right now
and will be my personal effort to pay for weapons to remove those cockroaches from Lebanon and Palestine .

Posted by: ala-sux at July 26, 2006 10:56 PM

Mike_W

No need to picture it, I may just post a picture of the sock puppet actually here... just for you lil' champ.

Posted by: Haidon at July 26, 2006 11:03 PM

Even more devestating for Israel than the land for piece chimera, is the shattering of the myth of the Israeli military. Hezbullah is 'winning' the war no matter how you slice it:

1. Mission accomplished: all attention diverted from Iran and just who killed Rafik in Lebanon. Hint, B. Assad.
2. Not enough troops into S. Lebanon by Israel. We're shocked, shocked how tough Hezbullah is. Read Debka.com for numerous examples of this. Is the political leadership placing ropes around the IDF so as not to upset the worldwide popularity contest of Israel? Well, it isn't working. Leading to 3 . . .
3. Israel the Nazi state, rallying the world against her, minus the US. How many nanoseconds did it take to make the first Ehud the Nazi cartoon? Sharon got a warm reception from France after the Gaza withdraw, following the Lebanon withdraw, following the West Bank Withdraw, following the Sinai withdraw. Good dhimmi; now, what have you done for me lately? I doubt Olmert will enjoy a Parisian reception anytime soon, unless he kisses Nasrallah.
4. After the overpowering wins in '67 and '73, Jihad was not suppressed, but a sense of invinciability arouse in the Arab World. This is going, going, going, gone. New calculations will amerge. Nations at "peace" with Israel like Egypt and Jordan will challenge the question can Israel be vanquished.
5. Lesson to the Palis. Kidnap more soldiers, build better rockets, and the world will only blame Israel for its response.
6. A paralysis of the 'post-zionist' leadership. They're beyond 'land for peace' because a. they're running out of land, and b. no one who will let them live in peace . . . leading to the folly of disengagement, premised on a. we have the bomb, b. are military is unbeatable and, therefore, c. nobody would be crazy to fire missles on our cities out of fear!

And what will happen with 800 thousand Israelis living in bunkers, tourism destroyed, ostracized by the world, dammed if you fight back or not, their businesses destroyed? Will this changed equation alter the arab mentality of Israel, embolden them perhaps??

Yes, after the '67 war, Israel was alone in the world, but it had strategic depth, and, more important, it had respect of the Arabs. They may have said no, no and no to existance with Israel with their three negatives, but they respected israel; they were vanquished.

The only hope is a long slog through the morass of Lebanon, killing as many Hezbullah it can find, bombing them back to the stone age, and a painful look inward at the folly of land for peace and disengagement. It is not too late.

Posted by: biorabbi at July 26, 2006 11:15 PM

Actually, the position of Israel mirrors the rest of the fight against Jihad. We are embroiled in a country that hates us, wants to kill us. This empowered a resurgant Iran(along with the price of crude, and stiffles any response to her. Our government goes on 'listening tours' of the Muslim world, then allows tens of thousands of Saudis to 'study' in the USA. Indians were murdered and maimed a few days ago; does anybody care about why? Cartoons incur the wrath of Allah and self-censorship, and talk of public limits on free speech. I feel like that poor sap in the movie network: I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.

Posted by: biorabbi at July 26, 2006 11:25 PM

Sobering Debka piece today:

"As the third week of the war begins, conditions in the shelters where about a million Israeli civilians are confined are deteriorating. People living in terror of the next rocket and unable to work are running out of food, money and medicines. Airlessness is unbearable in the hot summer days. In some shelters, the individual must make do with half a meter of space on a mattress.
After 13 days of warfare, 85,000 business in northern Israel face ruin. Half a million trees and much of the wild vegetation have been destroyed."

Lebanon can be criticized for allowing a terrorist group free sway, but Israel is also to be critiqued for not crushing this. What is Israel waiting for? The chief of the military is quoted in the Jpost as stating we are using a fraction of our forces. We don't want an invasion of Lebanon. So, will a missle attack on Netanya or Tel Aviv also be a surprise? Will that 'change everything?' But how can it be a surprise when Nasrallah has delivered to date and telegraphs his next move(s). Being fired at by positions in Mosques? Why are they not leveled? Why not invade Lebanon, destroy all missles and mosques that house them should there be any resistance? Also, the US watches as well. Is Israel still a mighty strategic asset? It is not just the Arabs who are watching. Olmert needs to stop stressing about world opinion or US opinion or French opinion or the UN opinion; he needs to worry about Hezbullah's opinion and the survival of his country.

If the US were attacked daily with missles from Mexico, would we care about world opinion? Yes, arguements can be made against Israel taking bold action: their small, weak, hated. But these same factors should force their hand.

And if Israel is destroyed in one uranium swoop, or by ceaseless missles day in and day out for years to come, or if the Jews scatter to the four courners of the world(been there, done that), what message will this be to the call of Jihad??? I would argue it would evern further embolden Islam and Jihad. Jihad is not static. It can be constrained or allowed to fester. I would speculate the weakening and/or elimination would embolden Jihad more than Afghanistan ever did.

Posted by: biorabbi at July 26, 2006 11:43 PM

Let us review the tragic and deadly record of the United Nation’s toothless and often immoral peacekeeping missions:

http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=150061

Posted by: Mike_W at July 26, 2006 11:46 PM

That's strange...
Hizbulluh usually hides behind women and children.....

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at July 26, 2006 11:53 PM

The UN does nothing to hinder Hezbollah for all these years and this is the gratitude they get?

Posted by: mjazzguitar at July 27, 2006 1:08 AM

I wish, I hope, I pray that Israel redraws its borders.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at July 27, 2006 3:00 AM

Assalamau-Laikum all,

Well I guess i should not be surprised at the gloating that you peoples (e.g. Proud Infedel) have expressed at the death..no ..murder of the UN officials by the state of Israel.

I myself am saddened at such a deliberate monstrosity, deliberate targetting. What will it achieve....not a lot I think.

Israel yesterday lost many friends...and it does not have many of those left.

Why do it? I suppose they wanted to divert attention from the heavy losses they suffered at the hands of a rag tag malitia yesterday...which they are finding increasing difficult to finish off.

Hizbollox ofcourse will never fight fair against such overwhelming yet inaccurate firepower, but for Israel to make excuses like "they were firing from close by the UN compound" ...ridiciolous!.

Posted by: Naseem at July 27, 2006 3:38 AM

"There are peacekeepers at these posts, including New Zealanders. Who are you to condemn them to death?"

Gidday Thomas, it's good to see some real kiwi spoken online, even if it's a choice expression like f***wit, LOL!

Regarding the 'condemning to death', it seems to me that perhaps Kofi Annan is doing that, by posting them there in a situation they obviously can't be safe in?

Posted by: Lili at July 27, 2006 3:42 AM

Am I the only one to think that this is a put up job, it smells too much of anal solids. The Israelis seem to have been drooping them around the post all day and then pop it dead centre I didn't think that they were that bad shots especially with the artillery pieces they have got now. A friend of the family who was in the royal artillery during the war used to say it took three shots with a 25 pounder to hit the target one over one under and one on the button. His speciality was church towers and steeples clearing out sniper and observation posts and he said he rarely needed more than a couple of shots. It wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't done by Hizbullah to put the Israelis in a bad odour.

Posted by: Holger Dansker at July 27, 2006 3:56 AM

"There are peacekeepers at these posts, including New Zealanders. Who are you to condemn them to death?"

Gidday Thomas, it's good to see some real kiwi spoken online, even if it's a choice expression like f***wit, LOL!

Regarding the 'condemning to death', it seems to me that perhaps Kofi Annan is doing that, by posting them there in a situation they obviously can't be safe in?

Posted by: Lili at July 27, 2006 4:04 AM

"There are peacekeepers at these posts, including New Zealanders. Who are you to condemn them to death?"

Gidday Thomas, it's good to see some real kiwi spoken online, even if it's a choice expression like f***wit, LOL!

Regarding the 'condemning to death', it seems to me that perhaps Kofi Annan is doing that, by posting them there in a situation they obviously can't be safe in?

Posted by: Lili at July 27, 2006 4:04 AM

Israel yesterday lost many friends...and it does not have many of those left.

Also, Naseemah, even though I suggested it, as Haidon pointed out, Israel didn't deliberately target them. My point above was that they would have been fully justified if they had.

Anyway, as the original post in this thread points out, that may well be achieved by Hizbullah. Already, Australia are pulling out their portion of UNIFIL, and with any luck, all other contingents should follow. (Maybe you could send Paki and Bangladeshi troops to Lebanon. LOL)

Once they are, those brave soldiers of Sayed Nasrallah can hide behind their wild slutty womens and their childrens. Except that since they are Mohammedans, they are legitimate targets, even though Israel will try real hard to minimize their casualities. Very unlike what Pakistan did in East Pakistan in 1971.

Funny seeing you Mohammedans getting bitchslapped by the descendents of apes and rats.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 27, 2006 4:38 AM

I'm sure the Israelis will be crushed that they're no longer on Nazeam's buddy list. Maybe they could use some tactical advice from our little Pakistani Patton? Then everyone would like them again.

Yippee!

Posted by: Eisenhund at July 27, 2006 4:47 AM

Funny seeing you Mohammedans getting bitchslapped by the descendents of apes and rats.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 27, 2006 04:38 AM

It certainly brings a smile to my face ;->

It looks like the Ozzies are doing the sensible thing and getting their troops out of harms way.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5219314.stm

Posted by: km at July 27, 2006 4:48 AM

Assalamau Laikum IP,

I think that NZ and some of the other Western countries (India has UN troops there too) may well have been friends...Israel is practising SAD (self assured destruction) and ofcourse one facet of that is losing friends.

You say "Maybe you could send Paki troops there"

Sorry they are required to put down the Balochis and on the border at Afghanistan & India in our efforts to support the Amerekie to stamp out terrorism & nationalism in this part of the world.

You say "Funny seeing you Mohammedans getting bitchslapped by the descendents of apes and rats".

Hisbollox are not my peoples...I am Ahmadi...I am not that bothered about them being "bitch-slapped" ...my great concern is for the inncocent (muslims & christian) peoples of Lebonan and the UN.

Also Infedels are not "descendents of apes and rats"....this is where that particular Hadith has it wrong, it's plan silly words and probably written by some cretin in an overly emotional state. Haidon could probably elobrate here!

Infedels are humans ...whose lives however can only be bettered by having Allah in them. I am here to advise you that conversion to Ahmadi is the best option when the time is right.

One final thing IP, it looks like JW has certainly had the effect of sanitising death and destruction to many readers here...and worse it has emboldened the (normally) cowering hindu to speak up knowing that there is a safe distance between him and the sunni/shia who he can easily critize.

Please don't read this as a threat...it is merely a keen observation...for as an Ahmadi I too have to keep on my toes in Pak.

Posted by: Naseem at July 27, 2006 5:22 AM

Hisbollox are not my peoples...I am Ahmadi...

One final thing IP, it looks like JW has certainly had the effect of sanitising death and destruction to many readers here...and worse it has emboldened the (normally) cowering hindu to speak up knowing that there is a safe distance between him and the sunni/shia who he can easily critize.

Or is it that when it's 'Islam will rule', you are a Muslim, but when it's bloodletting that soils the image of Islam, you're suddenly an Ahmadiya?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 27, 2006 5:49 AM

Posting a writeup by B.Raman :

"If India's anger against Pakistan is justified, so is Israel's ire against Iran, Syria and their surrogates ---- Israel is a small country with a very small population. It has no military depth. It has to follow a policy of instant and forceful retaliation against terrorists and states such as Iran and Syria using terrorism as a weapon to make its population bleed. Israel has to retaliate instantly or perish. This has to be kept in mind while judging Israel's action in taking its fight against terrorism to the Lebanese territory. Israel had no other option, but to do what it has done.

The Hizbullah, which raided Israeli territory from its sanctuaries in the Lebanon, and kidnapped two Israeli soldiers on July 12 is the surrogate of the intelligence agencies of Iran and Syria just as the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba, the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HUM), the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HUJI) and the Jaish-e-Mohammad (JEM) are the surrogates of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). What Israel has been facing ever since the Islamic Revolutionaries captured power in Tehran in 1979, is a proxy war being waged against it by the Iranian intelligence - supported by the Syrian intelligence - by using various surrogates.

Israel has as much right to act against the intelligence agencies of Iran and Syria and their surrogates as India has to act against the ISI and its surrogates. Iran chose the present moment to use the Hizbullah against Israel to divert world attention from its military nuclear programme and to pre-empt the possibility of a strike against the Iranian nuclear establishments by the US and/or Israel - acting separately or in tandem.

Israel cannot be accused of using disproportionate force against the sanctuaries and rocket bases of the Hizbullah in the Lebanese territory. When the terrorists operate in one's own territory as the Maoists have been doing in our territory, one can use carefully calibrated force so that the force used is not more than necessary.

When the terrorists operate against you from sanctuaries in the territory of another state, it is not possible to calibrate the use of force so carefully. There could be occasions when after a specific incident, the force used may seem more than what was required by the circumstances of the incident. This cannot be called intentional use of disproportionate force.

Israel faces a particularly difficult situation in the Lebanon. Hizbullah terrorists operate from the midst of the civilian population. Their rockets are fired at the populated areas of Israel from rocket launchers concealed in heavily-populated areas. In the face of this, Israel faces a cruel choice - either leave its own civilian population unprotected due to fears of causing civilian casualties in the Lebanese territory or put these rocket-launchers out of action even at the risk of causing some civilian casualties. The primary responsibility of any state is to protect its population. One cannot blame Israel for exercising this responsibility. No state should shirk exercising this responsibility.

One has to understand the compulsions behind Israel's actions - particularly we in India who often face similar situations in Jammu & Kashmir.

The Iranian intelligence has been increasingly playing a dangerous game: It has been arming and instigating different Shia militia groups to keep the pot boiling in Iraq; it has been adding to the instability in Afghanistan by helping elements opposed to the Government of Hamid Karzai; and, it has been arming and advising the Hizbullah in order to destabilise the Lebanon and make the Israelis bleed. There has been one objective behind all these actions - to keep the US and Israeli forces bleeding and preoccupied, thus reducing the chances of a military strike against its nuclear establishments.

The Hizbullah, instigated by Iran, created the present situation. If the international community has to win the war against terrorism, it has to see that the present situation culminates not in a compromise which would further increase jihadi terrorism, but in the destruction of the military and terrorism capabilities of the Hizbullah. Lebanon has its own army, which has to be modernised and strengthened. The Hizbullah has no business to have an army of its own in the Lebanese territory.

The end of the Hizbullah is only one part of the solution. The other is to put an end to Iran's use of terrorism as a weapon to achieve its strategic objectives.

An outcome of the traumatic experience of 9/11 was a realisation by the civilised nations of the world that terrorism and state-sponsors of terrorism pose a serious threat to international peace and security. The civilian population continues to bleed in India, Afghanistan, Israel, Lebanon and Iraq due to the activities of three recalcitrant state-sponsors of terrorism - Pakistan, Iran and Syria - and their surrogates. The international community should unite to deal with them effectively.

This is not the time to criticise Israel. This is the time to help it get over its ordeal. At a time when we grieve over the deaths our nationals at the hands of Pakistan-sponsored jihadi terrorists, let us share the grief of Israel too over the deaths of its nationals at the hands of the Hizbullah and other jihadi terrorists. If our anger against Pakistan and its surrogates is justified, so is Israel's anger against Iran, Syria and their surrogates".

http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=OPED&file_name=opd1%2Etxt&counter_img=1

Posted by: Crows&Cows at July 27, 2006 6:14 AM

I was watching the news on early am tv. The reports are coming in that Hezbollah is demanding a ceasefire.

I wonder what caused them to demand a ceasefire, Was it the useless UN, was it fear of the Lebanese military, was it because of instructions given by Iran or Syria, was it because of advice given to them by the main stream media, was it because of advice given by the left wing American dhimmicrats or left wing America professors, was it from the advise of their copartners Hamas or Al-Qaeda?

I suspect the real reason for their demand for a ceasefire could be the tenacity of the Israeli onslaught peppered by artillery fire, air raids and the downright audicity of the Israeli army to boldly go where the Euroweenies and almost every one else fear to go. The Israelies have taken the fight to them and have been dishing it out. Hezbollah should be grateful, the Israelies gave them notice they were coming, told them where they would attack,gave them opportunity to leave by dropping leaflets instructing anyone who wished not to fight to leave and has not yet begun to really attack in an allout killer mode.

The world should take note, an all out attack on terrorists is the most likely tactic that could be used to fight terrorists from the "Peaceful Religion of Islam" and succeed.

In WWII both Germany and Japan were firebombed relentlessly. No doubt, civilians were killed by the hundreds of thousands and no doubt this action had some effect on their decision to surrender.

And on another note, I see where the Islamic Hezbollah terrorists are using the old VietCong era tactics of ambushes from spider holes, hit and run tactics and cave hiding. Well, Time to bring out the Napalm. I loved seeing the Napalm tanks dropping from low flying jets. Dying a burning death from Napalm is far worse than being killed by a bullet. If the Napalm fire doesn't kill you, the lack of oxygen will. And Napalm flows into spider holes, uncovers camoflauged positions and is really feared by any one caught up in it.

Israel is teaching Hezbollah a lesson and is teaching the world a lesson at the same time. If peace is to come then Islamic terrorists like Hezbollah must die.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 27, 2006 7:18 AM

Haidon, great to see that another Kiwi is posting on here,, although we now live in Australia, we are still Kiwi's, but we dont want to go back to cold... just love Queensland, temp today was 26...

Infidel Pride, I feel that youa re right on, everything that I read about the UN, is not good.. and I blame the media for the hatred towards Israel, they sure are fighting with one hand tied behind their backs, and both eyes blinded. Anyone with half a brain can see how so very tiny little Israel is, and is surrounded by billions of angry killer Muslims armies. If Israel is so bad then why does the one million Arabs and Muslims want to stay in Israel.. It appears to me that there are to many people out there who are not thinking for themselves they are just believing what the media tells them. Perhaps they have never read history, and because of their ignorance we could all die...

Posted by: Gaye at July 27, 2006 7:54 AM

I thought you were Muslim - the way you keep begging any Muslim poster who surfaces here to acknowledge you as one

That was some FUNNY shit.Please defender,mohedeen,tell them i am muslim too!!sounded like a grade school kid on the playground trying to get the kool kids to say she was kool to,so she could be in the "in" croud.Please mohedeen,defender tell em i'm a muslim too!!!

Posted by: Patriot8 at July 27, 2006 8:08 AM

biorabbi, If Israel did do what you say above, the media would be up in horror condemning Israel yet once again... Didn't you know that Israel is the only country in the world who isnt allowed to protect itself, they have to sit there and allow themselves to be destroyed,, and while Muslims destroy Israel the media keeps quite.
I can remember many years ago when so called terrorists went into Israel and bombed schools, buses, synagogues, shopping centers or anywhere there were children, they killed babies, children and adults, and the media hardly said a thing, they didn't show any of the horrific scenes, the heartache the crying the dispare etc because the media said that it was to emotional and too horrific for the public to see, but in reality the media knows that if these scenes are not shown that the world forgets and it de-personalises it however when the odd times that Israel happens to get civilians the media shows all the sordid details completely, the blood the dead people and dying children the screaming relatives that only Muslims can do, the showing of their over exagerated pain went on and on,, but not so the Jews.
If there is a God and I have no doubt that there is, one day the media will meet him and I would hate to be in their shoes, as it is written that God will curse those who curse Israel and bless those who have blessed Israel. after reading a study done by Yale university on near death experiences, I have no doubt that the media will regret their bias. By their bias they are giving us over to Islam...

Posted by: Gaye at July 27, 2006 8:10 AM

And speaking of the Euroweenies, I vote we seriously have to have battle plans laid out just in case we have to save them again.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 27, 2006 8:21 AM

Assalamau-Laikum Amerekie-in-Germany,

I think you have it wrong on Hizb asking (politely) for a ceasefire. Once again you talk from your biased and emotional heart. No... I think the reasons are as follows:

1) Hizballah's handsome Hassan Nasrallah has issued a declaration that he intends to move on to launching longer-range rockets at Israeli towns south of Haifa. But 1st he has asked for a ceasefire....ofcourse he has calculated that one will not be forthcoming....so after this public declaration he will say "well we tried to stop the fighting...but the agressor Israel ignored us....so now we need to extend opearations i.e. tagret Israeli cites further away.

Hizballah wants to step up the war of attrition against civilian targets so that Israel will accept this vague cease-fire.These may only serve as a stepping stone for future attacks on Israel.

2) If by some miracle Israel does accept a cease fire....now it finds itself on a par with Hizb...and the Lebenese government is sidelined, and Hizb has grown politically, Hizb would then be deciding the interests of Lebonon not the Lebenese government, this would be a major cue for Hizb.

3) We all know that the real war here is between Iran and the US...and as yet is being fought by their proxies. In accepting a cease fire I think Iran (who has told Hizb to ask for a ceasefire) is safer from the infedel US onslaught. The Amerekie would like Israel to defeat Hizballah, Iran does not want the organization destroyed and is doing all it can to prevent this. ....a ceasefire would acheive this.

4) This move makes Hizb more popular with the Lebense peoples ...as Hizb can claim that it is worried about the state & health of the peoples surroounding them. I mean enough is enough.

5) This move could make Hizb more popular with the Israeli peoples...they are fed up of rockets up the posterior everyday.

6) Israel's deterrence keeps the peace the of moderate Arabs nations. With Hizb intact they are worried about their own positions...they don't want Hizb or Hamas, to be stationed as Allah's army in their countries...not another lebonan they say. Hizb however will be strengthened and seeing this will embolden Hamas too...so it is doubtful whether any Palestinians will be willing to reach agreements with Israel.

7) A ceasefire would possibly lead to the status quo before hostilities...i.e. Hizb is still there in Southern Lebonan....it still has the rockets...it is still able to get it's rams from Syria and Iran....and most of it's personnel is still available.

It has LITTLE to do with the Israelis giving Hizb a bloody nose....in my opinion that has not yet happened.

Politically a ceasefire is the best result for Hizb...they are intact and Israel would have lost the greater political battle...

The real winners... Iran and Syria

The real losers ...the Amerekie

Posted by: Naseem at July 27, 2006 8:38 AM

Well I guess i should not be surprised at the gloating that you peoples (e.g. Proud Infedel) have expressed at the death..no ..murder of the UN officials by the state of Israel.

Nobody’s gloating. We’re all sad and tired at the unhappy fact that the world contains Moslems and that they contain the imperative for world takeover and the ruination of all freedom everywhere.

The UN is a front organization for the Jihad. If they don’t wanna get killed then they should return to the safety of their tax subsidized mosques, whether in Secaucus, Pontiac, or Malmo.

The Lebanese Moslems are also complicit in the Jihad. If they don’t wanna get killed then they must subdue the Jihadist in their midst, the Hizbullah. Otherwise they’re fair game too.

610 * 623 * 732* 1066* 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001

Too many excuses for the always excuse-making Moslems, and their UN colleagues. Violence is coming to the face of this globe, and it will be from the hands of the anti-Jihads, the free peoples of the world.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 27, 2006 10:01 AM

Naseem, is your mourning period over? You keep mentioning the "handsome" nasrallah. ??? I for one don't know how you could be attracted to a man that hides behind women and children. I for sure don't find cowardly sexy in a man. To me, cowardness makes a man ugly. Then again, so can his actions. Like killing women and chldren. Mistreating women and children. Calling for the death of a race of people just...just because. But , then again, he is muslim.

Naseem, convert now. Get out of muslimdom while you can. Become popular with civilized people. Save yourself and your children and grandchildren.

Posted by: freewoman at July 27, 2006 10:14 AM

Naseem - Sorry, but you are talking out your ‏(الاسم) الشرج‏ . It is not Israel that said Hezbollah was amongst the UN post that got bombed...it was the UN themselves! Read the UNFIL PRESS RELEASE.

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr010.pdf

You should know what you're talking about BEFORE you grunt.

As for Israel not having any friends, the muslim world is in for a big surprise. There are many supporters of Israel praying to JEHOVAH God (the ONLY God - Jehovah is the GREATEST) to squash the islamic toads...cough, I mean 'terrorists'.

All in good time Naseem....All in good time.

Posted by: The Goobs at July 27, 2006 10:50 AM

Amekerian-in-Germany,

Sorry but I think you have lost the plot. Your every recent post is full of hate and venom....it is YOU who is jumping up & down, YOU who are foaming at the mouth, YOU who is loing control.

Assalamau-Liakum is a greeting used by over 2/5 of the global human population.....there is nothing evil about it...merely offering you a hello and peace. It is not as you can live in isolation from Islam.

Muslim innocents are being killed and maimed by indiscriminate fire...so obviously our opinions will differ....but that does not mean we cannot be civil over this debate.

Repeatedly all you have done is attack me personally rather than make valid counter points on any arguments I have made.

AIG, it takes nothing to be civil and therefore I will remain civil...but seriously you need to drop the childish attitude & do some growing up fast.

Good day to you madam.

Posted by: Naseem at July 27, 2006 12:08 PM

Naseem wrote: "Assalamau-Liakum is a greeting used by over 2/5 of the global human population"

Just an FYI:

The current world pop. 6,635,452,391

There are 1.3 bil muslims

2/5 of 6 bil would be 2.65 bil, not 1.3 bil

I don't mean to be a stickler, but I keep seeing this propaganda that 1 in 4 is a mohammedean or 2/5 are muslims, etc. but the numbers don't add up

Posted by: GreatShaitan at July 27, 2006 12:38 PM

Israel should inform the U.N. it has 72 hours to get the useless "peacekeepers" out for their own protection. What is the U.N. doing, taking sides in a war? U.N. human shields?

Should be said that the "peacekeepers" are sleeping at their posts, wake them and inform them of the war.

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at July 27, 2006 1:24 PM

I apologize for going off topic and talking about something other than Naseem, but...

Holger Dansker said

It wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't done by Hizbullah to put the Israelis in a bad odour.

Other posters here in the past few days have suggested that Israel should use captured Hizb'Allah rockets and fire them against the UN post. Israel wouldn't do that, but Hizb'Allah would do it in a second. If it turns out to have been an Israeli shell, is there any way to determine the position of the shell, it's trajectory, and therefore it's launch site? Any chance that an unexploded shell could have been placed next to the UN post, then detonated? Of course, someone would need to get within 9 feet of the post to do that, so that would narrow down the list of suspects considerably.

Also, it was a Chinese, a Canadian, an Austrian, and a Finn who were killed. But did anyone see the video of UN soldiers carrying the bodies away? It looked like 10-20 Pakistanis were the ones doing the carrying. I didn't see any Chinese, Canadians, Austrians, Finns, or others in the scene. Anyone know the breakdown in nationality of the soldiers in Lebanon? Which is not to suggest that soldiers from our staunch ally Pakistan were a major component on the scene, felt a deep kinship that only Muslims feel, and were passing information to the Hizb'Allah that would help in targeting Israelis. No, not that.

And if any of these scenarios turn out to be true, that Israel was wrongly implicated, don't worry, our media will report on that. Six to twelve months from now. On page 28, lower left column. In small print.

Posted by: special_guest at July 27, 2006 1:31 PM

-special_guest,

The guys carrying away the bodies were Sikhs, not Pakis.

Posted by: Eisenhund at July 27, 2006 2:20 PM

special_guest

It looked like 10-20 Pakistanis were the ones doing the carrying.

ONLY SIKHS WEAR PALE BLUE TURBANS

Posted by: shiva at July 27, 2006 2:55 PM

Naseem, again you have your head buried so far up the ass of the terrorists that you cannot see what is really going on. Hizbulluh is not some rag tag group. They are basicly Iranian militia without uniforms. Israel has not suffered "heavy losses". 10 or 12 men out of an army of tens of thousands is an extremely small percentage. Israel did not target the UN members. The cowardly hizbulluh are close by the UN forces so they can get colateral damage, just like they hide behind women and children so they can falsely claim Israel is killing civilians. Israel still has lots of friends in the world community, unlike the muslims who have lost support. Stop making yourself sound stupid and go back to mourning your late hubby.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at July 27, 2006 3:44 PM

UNIFIL should be declaired another UN failure that the USA and Israel has to yet again clean up. Apologies should be made by Kofe Anan for the UN to Israel for being derelict of thier duties and complicate in the build up of Hezbollah, which has lead to this conflict. Then he should be made to get on his knees and beg for the foregiveness of the Israeli people for saying that he thought the attack on the UN outpost was intentional.

Posted by: ethoman at July 27, 2006 4:56 PM

The Mother of the UNIFIL Canadian was just on the radio and hopes her son is found , she complained that the UN assumed he died and is under all the debris, but she wants them to search elsewhere in case he wasn't in the Post when it was hit.

So while our tax-funded CBC news network blames Israel for the Murder of this UNIFIL memeber, the jury is still out because there's no "Body" to prove a crime took place.

How ironic that CAIR and the CBC still won't call the 9/11 hijackers "Muslims" or connect "Islam" to the attack, but they will report all those Theories about how Massad and "The Jews" really planned the attack.

Posted by: ala-sux at July 27, 2006 5:49 PM

If Kofi owes anyone an apology, it's the families of those UN Peacekeeper Joes that the organization keeps in harm's way. Don't forget, most of these guys are just regular soldiers of their respective nations who volunteer for this temporary job. Even my unit, when I was wearing the green pajamas, was asked for volunteers. Their job is obviated by the present conflict, and many of them being good soldiers they can't just abandon their posts without orders. That the UN isn't giving them their pullout orders is a crime in itself. All it's doing is risking the lives of these soldiers and providing terrorists with even more human shields and ammo for the propaganda war when the Israelis do what they have to do to get rid of the mohammedan filth hiding behind them.

As for Kofi apologizing to Israel, I'm sure they'd rather he'd just shut his rotten mouth and let them do what is needed without moral equivalence commentary. His apology in the face of his support of or acquiescence to the mohammedan pseudo-fascists in the world renders it effectively worthless.

Posted by: Eisenhund at July 27, 2006 8:33 PM

Is there any further news on M. Booh-Booh? I am interested in this M. Booh-Booh fellow.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 27, 2006 9:19 PM

Hizballah has contracted with Palestinians and are using Christian communities as a human shield to launch its rockets against Israel.

Read about it here:
http://mychristianblood.blogspirit.com/archive/2006/07/23/hizballah-sub-contracts-palestinian-launch-squads-uses-chris.html#more

Posted by: Johnathan at July 28, 2006 1:11 AM

Eisenhund

Why pseudo-fascists? Their fascism looks real enough to me

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 28, 2006 2:42 AM