He wants an alliance because he knows the west has had enough, the cowarded is scared. They asked for this fight now they are worried we will take the gloves off. They really didn't expect Israel to fight or us to back them. Guess what Z man, we are in this for good.

Posted by: Ronin at July 28, 2006 5:34 PM

Hezbollah, Al queda there all the same.Dont hope for differences between them.There hatred is shared.There history followed.There faliers noted.There succeses incorperated.There enemys the same.There mind set brainwashed.The current media spin of diferenses between Hezbollah Alqueda, ignorant thinking.Not even the level wishfull thinking.So with such forses allighning whats to be done.Run for the hills.Or stand and fight.The options are becoming limeted.Either the world will adjust and take appropeate measures.Or Boom.Bang.Its done.

Posted by: Rench at July 28, 2006 5:34 PM

Yes, this is a good thing, despite the fact that it could be a resolved Sunni/Shia split. Why? Because it stalls out the CNNs of the world when they try and make Hezbollah look "different" from AQ, trusting American's lack of world knowledge to keep them in the dark. Many Americans may not get Hezbollah and are susceptible to the "this is Israel's problem" line, but MOST Americans GET AQ and know that it is our enemy. While short term it may be bad for Israeli citizens, from the longterm propaganda perspective, it is a good thing. As soon as AQ made its appearance (with the WTC in the background, no less), the entire tone of the Big Lie cable shows shifted in hours from "Two more weeks? What about the poor suffering Hezbollah-supporting American citizens on a tour ship?" to "Uh oh. Al Qaeda." Good going, jihad halfwits .

Posted by: Abu Lahab at July 28, 2006 5:39 PM

I posted this on an earlier thread. A very good documentary on radical Islam.

http://www.shortenurl.com/3jdeo

Spread this far and wide people.

Posted by: km at July 28, 2006 5:43 PM

The most important part of Al-Zawihiri's statement, the one that should be mentioned by the President, mentioned by the Secretary of State, mentioned by the Secretary of Defense, mentioned by members of Congress and certainly mentioned by all those who are seeking support for their own candidacies in 2008, was this:

[Our goal is] "to liberate every land that used to be a territory of Islam, from Spain to Iraq."

That includes Spain, Sardinia, Sicily, Malta, Greece, all of the Balkans, Bulgaria, Rumania, most of Hungary, and possibly, as well, that part of France that extends all the way up to the furthest point of Muslim conquest, outside Poitiers.

Start with that statement, which to everyone here is not surprising but perfectly comprehensible. And then remind the public that must everywherre be instructed that, according to Islam, not "extremist" Islam, not an Islam that "has been hijacked," but Islam as it is, was, and will be, the entire world is divided into two parts: Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, the Domain or House of Islam, and the Domain or House of War. The Domain, or House, of War is that part of the world where Infidels still live, unsubmissive to Islam. It is the duty of all Muslims, a duty sometimes individual in nature and sometimes collective, to strive, or "struggle," for the final victory of Islam, so that all obstacles to its dominance are removed everywhere, and everywhere Muslims rule. This is not a figmment of some colonialist, neocolonialist, Orientalist imagination. It is exactly what anyone -- Believer or Infidel -- can find clearly spelled out in the canonical texts of Islam, and amply confirmed by the 12350 year history of Jihad conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims, all kinds of non-Muslims, living in all kinds of places. This evidence can not be denied, can not be avoided or evaded. Not, at least, if one wishes to have the right even to comment on current world events. Without such knowledge, one's views are without any conceivable value, except as one more specimen of how the bearers of self-assured ignorance are no longer merely figures of fun to be mocked, but have become a positive threat to our safety and our survival.

Posted by: Hugh at July 28, 2006 5:48 PM

It's an act of folly for westerners to fight against the savage, according to regulations.

GWB and Olhmer, both, fight half-heartedly.

Oh, why bother?

Posted by: ssa at July 28, 2006 5:58 PM

— The United States is stepping up its aid to the Lebanese military to help it enforce government sovereignty in southern Lebanon, now the bailiwick of the Hezbollah guerrillas, the State Department said Friday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206153,00.html

goergie must like to show the world how much of an idiot he is.

Posted by: Patriot8 at July 28, 2006 6:02 PM

They may become bros in the fight against Israel, but as soon as it's over, they'll go back to killing each other.

Km...just watched the video and emailed it. VERY good.

Posted by: freewoman at July 28, 2006 6:06 PM

Some of the Lebanese soldiers already joined in the fight with Hizbullah.

Oh, laughable. Only a fool bother to waste his own resources for no gain.

Posted by: ssa at July 28, 2006 6:08 PM

Fitzgerald, on July 14 (I think) wrote a critique of an article by Dr. Hesham Hassaballa

do you know that this doc

Hesham A. Hassaballa

Beliefnet Columnist

Hesham A. Hassaballa is a Pulmonary/Critical Care physician currently practicing in the greater Chicago area and has been a Beliefnet columnist since 2001. He has written extensively on a free lance basis, and his commentaries have been published in the Chicago Tribune as well as other newspapers around the country and around the world. He is author of the essay "Why I Love the Ten Commandments," published in the book Taking Back Islam (Rodale), winner of the prestigious Wilbur Award for 2003 Best Religion Book of the Year by the Religion Communicators Council. He is also author of the forthcoming book, The Beliefnet Guide to Islam, to be published by Doubleday in 2006, and an avid writer for his personal blog, God, Faith, and a Pen.

In addition to writing, Dr. Hassaballa helped found the Chicago chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations

and has served on its executive board. He is co-chair of the Media Relations Committee of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago, and he is also a resident Scholar/Fellow at the International Strategy and Policy Institute, a Chicago-based Muslim think tank.
.....................

he is not what he seems to be, he is propagandist for CAIR

Posted by: charleston at July 28, 2006 7:02 PM

Hizballah's New Terror Weapon...Hizbollah said it had fired a volley of “Khaibar 1” rockets at Afula, apparently a new type of armament........................Just like AUG 22....I think the name of the Rocket is a message..........

The right of the Jews of Khaibar to stay on their former lands was a temporary concession, withdrawn in 640 by Umar, in obedience to Muhammad’s dying wish: ‘Two religions shall not remain together in the peninsula of the Arabs’. In this same year the whole of Arabia was cleansed of non-Muslims.

Khaibar is a name all Muslims jurists will recognize, since it was the conquest of Khaibar which set the precedent in Islamic case law for the subsequent treatment of non-Muslims who surrendered to Islamic conquest and rule. (Khaibar also provided Muhammad with one of his wives, Safiya, a leading Jewish woman of Khaibar whom he selected for himself from among the enslaved captives.)

THEY TELL US THE PLAN-WE DONT LISTEN!

Posted by: storagemanager at July 28, 2006 7:02 PM

link

http://beliefnet.com/story/111/story_11172.html

Posted by: charleston at July 28, 2006 7:03 PM

... the 1350 year history of Jihad conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims...

By my count, the Jihad conquest has been rolling for 1,382 yrs now, my arithmetic being 2006 - 624 = 1382.

It all started with the taking of Banu Qaynuqa. The land of Banu Qaynuqa, stolen land, has been under Moslem control ever since, and the Qaynuqan Jews were certainly subjugated. Nobody has ever been able to trace whatever became of the money and personal property stolen from the Qaynuqan Jews, but it can be safely assumed that it fell into Moslem hands.

This is the Sunnah that Moslems worship. Praise Allah and Secretary Donna Shallala.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 28, 2006 7:27 PM

Abu Lahab said

Because it stalls out the CNNs of the world when they try and make Hezbollah look "different" from AQ, trusting American's lack of world knowledge to keep them in the dark.

On Tucker Carlson's show on MSNBC, today he again had on Middle East Expert (tm) Evan Kohlmann, whose main point was the important distinction between Al Qaeda and Hizb'Allah. One could dispute, point by point, his theories (Hugh, anyone?), but the statement that got me was his claim that, unlike Al Qaeda, Hizb'Allah is not a religiously motivated group. They are just a regional, nationalistic group fighting over national boundaries with Israel. So, the group that calls itself "Party of God" is not motivated by religion.

Also, the point that Tucker Carlson felt important to make was that, do we really want to get into a fight with Hizb'Allah? Evan replied no, they are powerful and have not targeted the U.S. But, it is not the U.S. battling Hizb'Allah in Lebanon, it is Israel; I haven't heard anyone suggest that the U.S. go into Lebanon to fight Hizb'Allah, so why was that an important point to make? It seems to be important in this sense: to make sure that we (U.S./U.K.) see each of the hundreds of Muslim/infidel conflicts going on around the world as independent, not related to us, none of our business. The kinship we naturally feel for those who are also under attack from Islam (in this case, Israel) is threatening to some. If we start to feel too close to the Jews of Israel, or the Hindus of India, or the Bhuddists of Thailand, or the Copts of Egypt, it becomes important to point out how different we are from these other infidels, how those attacks by Islam are completely different from the attacks on us by Islam. We must not connect the dots.

And, it was not the U.S. or Israel deciding to take on Hizb'Allah, it is Israel responding to months of rocket attacks. It is not (as in Tucker et al's mind) the Crusaders going on the offensive against the poor Muslims, it is the Crusaders (see Robert's book) defending themselves from Muslim incursions. It is no more a choice than raising one's hand to stop someone trying to stab you. That is, it is not a conscious choice, but a self-defensive reflexive action.

Posted by: special_guest at July 28, 2006 7:53 PM

Sorry for the messed up link to the video in the previous post.

Posted by: special_guest at July 28, 2006 8:00 PM

Okay, I did a preview that time, it is being munged up after I hit submit. You'll have to go to msnbc.msn.com and click on Tucker Carlson yourself.

Posted by: special_guest at July 28, 2006 8:02 PM

GOD SAVE US FROM EXPERTS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ISLAM................Also, the point that Tucker Carlson felt important to make was that, do we really want to get into a fight with Hizb'Allah? Evan replied no, they are powerful and have not targeted the U.S. But, it is not the U.S. battling Hizb'Allah in Lebanon, it is Israel; I haven't heard anyone suggest that the U.S. go into Lebanon to fight Hizb'Allah, so why was that an important point to make?.....HEY EVAN THE HIZBOS ATTACKED AND KILLED 241 MARINES IN 1983 REMEMBER DIPSHIT.

Posted by: storagemanager at July 28, 2006 8:06 PM

BY THE WAY EVAN...THE HIZBOS ARE SHIA MUSLIMS AND AWAIT THE THE 12TH IMAM LIKE THE NUT THEY FOLLOW IN IRAN...GET A CLUE.

Posted by: storagemanager at July 28, 2006 8:13 PM

5 Shot, 1 Fatally, At Seattle Jewish Center
(AP) SEATTLE At least five people were shot, one of them fatally, Friday afternoon at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle, and one person was arrested, authorities said.

Jul 28, 2006 5:00 pm US/Pacific

http://cbs2.com/topstories/topstories_story_209200240.html

Posted by: Bar at July 28, 2006 9:02 PM

"Evan Kohlmann, whose main point was the important distinction between Al Qaeda and Hizb'Allah. One could dispute, point by point, his theories (Hugh, anyone?), but the statement that got me was his claim that, unlike Al Qaeda, Hizb'Allah is not a religiously motivated group. They are just a regional, nationalistic group fighting over national boundaries with Israel. So, the group that calls itself "Party of God" is not motivated by religion."
-- from a posting above

Idiotic. From first to last.
Who is Evan Kohlmann -- is he, by any chance, one of those youngish "terrorism experts" running around the networks, on retainer to them, offering a few obvious remarks at times that anyone could make, and at times offering the kind of sheer idiocy that he apparently did above?

He can't see that all this distinction-making between this group of Muslim terrorists, one with world-wide pretensions and claims, and that group of Muslim terrorists, with for the nonce possibly local pretensions and claims (say, in the Balkans, or in Indonesia, or in Pakistan, or in Lebanon, or in a suburb of London) all share the same beliefs, all are prompted by the same hatred of Infidels that is to be found in the same passages, in the same canonical texts, the very texts that no "moderate" Muslim has convincingly rebutted, or even tried to -- becdause they cannot.

To solemnly instruct unwary viewers of CNN that Al Qaeda and Hezbollah are two entirely different entities when it comes to their views on Infidels, is madness.

He should lose his fat contract with CNN. He should be laughed off-stage.

But he won't be.

Posted by: Hugh at July 28, 2006 10:22 PM

Here, this little movie might clear things up foor Tucker:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614&q=Obsession+What+the+war+on+terror&hl=en

Posted by: No_Mooselimbs at July 29, 2006 2:57 AM

Oops! Just realized that km posted this link towards the top. I just finished watching it in it's entirety.

Thanks for posting it, km, since I don't think it was going to show in my neck of the woods. I went to their website after seeing the director on Hannity and Colmes to check out release dates.

Powerful stuff.

Posted by: No_Mooselimbs at July 29, 2006 3:04 AM

Seems to me the Z man is pissed off by Hezbollahs
grabbing the headlines. Must be why he has changed his head towel...What's happened to
OBL-old yaller hiding in a cave somewhere in Pakistan?? For 'Holy Warriors' who supposedly love Death, these two Jihadis are very reluctant
to meet Allah & 72 virgins. Hopefully a drone circling over the Afghan border can connect them
with Paradise...

Posted by: Morgane at July 29, 2006 5:28 AM

Daniel 7:23-24 (NIV)
"He gave me this explanation: 'The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. [24] The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.

I am not usually prone to speculation on apocalyptic prophesy, but a Calipahte contains 10 counsel members and a Caliph.

These Islamic war mongerers are heading for a serious showdown.

Posted by: disciple at July 30, 2006 12:07 AM