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Of course, the use of civilian areas by Hizballah is being ignored yet again. From Australia's ABC, with thanks to JE:
Several houses collapsed and a three-storey building, where about 100 civilians were sheltering, was destroyed, witnesses and rescue workers said.Israel's military said it had warned residents of Qana to leave and said Hezbollah bore responsibility for using it to fire rockets at the Jewish state.
"Hezbollah used the village of Qana as a base to launch rockets and it bears responsibility that this area is a combat zone," army spokesman Jacob Dalal told AFP.
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Qana is already a potent symbol of Lebanese civilian deaths at the hands of Israel's military.
Israel has rejected responsibility for civilian deaths saying Hezbollah bore the blame because it used the village as a rocket-launching site.
Meanwhile in their latest attacks, Hezbollah militants have launched more than 90 rockets at northern Israel.
An Israeli commander, Shuki Shahar, says 1,700 rockets have been fired over the border so far.
"All of it were addressed to the cities, to the settlements, to the villages to hit the innocent population and we are acting exactly the opposite - we address all the fire to hit the terrorists."
Posted by Robert at July 30, 2006 7:08 AM
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Go Israel!!! Let them have it. They are so full of it, hiding among their own women and children, and crying when they are found out.
Posted by: freetoBEfree
at July 30, 2006 7:19 AM
Set up alert! They have been planning to rush the UN building and just waited for a trigger. How many people just happen to own US and Israeli flags and just happen to have them with them just in case they get a chance to burn them? BTW, these are the same children we see on the news dressed as suicide bombers. They are heros when they blow thmselves up and poor innocents when someones else kills them. I'm not buying into this one.
Posted by: Ronin
at July 30, 2006 7:20 AM
While waiting very very early Sunday morning for the German Grand Prix to start I have been watching news out of the Snake Pit (South Lebanon). The news along with this mornings articles in Jihad Watch are infuriating. The reports do not say, but I presume that Qana is a town inhabited predominately by THEM. When THEY cheer over dead Americans, Jews, and other infidels, and also eagerly allow Hezbollah to launch rockets from their backyards, I find myself not really caring one whit that 100 or more of THEM will cheer no more. Age does not matter to me; todays Muslim child is tomorrows killer, example - Seattle. I was once asked if I like children; I replied that I like my children.
I presume that this is a town inhabited by THEM, because if it were a Christian town, THEY would not be protesting.
Posted by: Pelayo
at July 30, 2006 7:46 AM
Deir Yassin
By Mitchell Bard
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/deir_yassin.html
You can read the above analysis of the Der Yassin battle (called massacre by the Arabs) and see if it falls in the same pattern we see today. Of Muslim terrorists using civilians as human shields. Many of same civilians being the "supply lines" and "support units" for the Jihadist fighters. THere are many Hizb'Allah villages in Soutern Lebanon like this. Where the so called civilians will not fire a gun on you but are the families and supporters of the Hizb'Allah terrorists who fire rockets and missiles into Israel.
Ah, but the Muhammadan outrage when a nation has had enough of being hit for years by rocket attacks, and this nation fights back and hard. Disproportionately. I see lots of twisted rebar and concrete rubble on TV. Many Hizb'Allah neighborhoods and families are now homeless. Ideally, at this time they would be given the Biblical punishment of being driven into the desert. But no, the UN and others will be back building new homes for the wicked.
Posted by: dennisw
at July 30, 2006 7:53 AM
There was a recent comment here re. Saddam's dead child cold storage banks. Reports are saying that only children's bodies have been recovered, and none are "broken or bloodied".
This has "pallywood" written all over it.
Posted by: Domestos
at July 30, 2006 8:26 AM
When THEY cheer over dead Americans, Jews, and other infidels, and also eagerly allow Hezbollah to launch rockets from their backyards, I find myself not really caring one whit that 100 or more of THEM will cheer no more.
Curious, is it not? While the rocket launchers were being brought in to these backyards, and the military crews and support personnel were there checking everything to make sure it worked several weeks back -- no one protested?
None chanted "all we are saying 'give peace a chance'?" It was all so secret; a big surprise as it were.
How do you not notice an army in your backyard erecting a rocket launcher???
Were not these kids curiously watching everything; talking to all those nice Iranian soliders with the smart looking uniforms; and listening to the missle crews boasting about the new toy?!?
We are to believe that the apartment tenets were just as surprised as the Israeli pilots to learn of the existence of these weapons?
The huge trucks that rolled in hauling these things -- no one noticed? Not the UN observers? No one?
They just sprouted up like mushrooms in the springtime I suppose.
I don't believe it for the same reasons that I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Good Tooth Fairy, or the Easter Bunny because it isn't true; it's a nice story, but it isn't true!
Posted by: witness
at July 30, 2006 8:34 AM
When THEY cheer over dead Americans, Jews, and other infidels, and also eagerly allow Hezbollah to launch rockets from their backyards, I find myself not really caring one whit that 100 or more of THEM will cheer no more.
Curious, is it not? While the rocket launchers were being brought in to these backyards, and the military crews and support personnel were there, checking everything to make sure it all worked several weeks back -- no one protested?
None chanted "all we are saying 'give peace a chance'?" It was all so secret; a big surprise as it were.
How do you not notice an army in your backyard erecting a rocket launcher???
Were not these kids curiously watching everything; talking to all those nice Iranian soliders with the smart looking uniforms; and listening to the missle crews boasting about the new toy?!?
We are to believe that the apartment tenets were just as surprised as the Israeli pilots to learn of the existence of these weapons?
The huge trucks that rolled in hauling these things -- no one noticed? Not the UN observers? No one?
They just sprouted up like mushrooms in the springtime I suppose.
I don't believe it for the same reasons that I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Good Tooth Fairy, or the Easter Bunny because it isn't true; it's a nice story, but it isn't true!
Posted by: witness
at July 30, 2006 8:36 AM
sorry about the double post -- not sure what happened?
Posted by: witness
at July 30, 2006 8:36 AM
Witness
Not all Hizb'Allah rockets need such attention. Katyushas can be set up anywhere (olive groves, apartment balconies) without a launching unit. I would think they are less accurate when set up that way http://www.spectr.org/2005/082/katyusha_isrleb2.jpg
Here is a Katyusha launcher http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Katyusha_launcher_rear.jpg
Here is Hizb'Allah in year 2001 using a launcher to send Katyushas into Israel. This was of course after Israel withdrew from Lebanon.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060721/481/a4a62003013a461499217912dc5f6bf9
at July 30, 2006 8:44 AM
Not all Hizb'Allah rockets need such attention. Katyushas can be set up anywhere (olive groves, apartment balconies) without a launching unit. I would think they are less accurate when set up that way
Understood. Yet, children being the curious creatures that they are, would certainly notice these -- especially the truck with the Katyusha rack on top sporting some 14 good sized rockets.
Each launch tube is about 8 - 10 feet long and I would think that nosy neighbors in an apartment complex would notice these?
Obviously, these rockets are crude and in accurate but I still find it hard to believe no one living around these things did not notice them -- especially mothers of children?
Human instinct alone would clue a person: "rocket launcher; war; counter-strike here; where's our child -- were moving" unless of course you are part of the military support stucture in some way?
Most people would have moved out of the neighborhood at first sight of these things -- why would you let your kids anywhere near these things in the first place is beyond my understanding.
BTW dennisw-- Thanks for the pictures!
Posted by: witness
at July 30, 2006 8:57 AM
I posted the following on a previous thread that seems to have been dead at the time I submitted.
It is, however, germaine to the topic of this page.
Posted by: Eisenhund
at July 30, 2006 9:36 AM
Okay, for all you Lebanese Shiites out there who don't get it, here's a little pearl of wisdom from our good friend, the Chairman:
Many people think it impossible for guerrillas to exist for long in the enemy's rear. Such a belief reveals lack of comprehension of the relationship that should exist between the people and the troops. The former may be likened to water the latter to the fish who inhabit it. How may it be said that these two cannot exist together?Mao Tse-tung, On Guerilla Warfare
Get it?
The armies of societies, civilized societies, wear uniforms. In order for them to fight, they have combat support and combat service support personnel.
You know, the people who make sure the personnel records are in line, chow is made, equipment is prepared, intel on the enemy is collected and distributed?
In the case of terrorist organizations, they have to travel light. Meaning, they can't afford the elaborate support structure.
They depend on you. They need you to fill the job slots that ,in an army of a civilized nation, would be filled by Joes and Janes in uniform.
In a war zone, it is not only the guys who have in their jackets, job designation llB (Infantry). Nor is it just any of the other combat branches. It is anyone who supports the the guys on the sharp end as well. That includes cooks, typewriter jockeys, jump-chaplains, the guys and gals who apply hi-speed missile wax to the nosecones of Patriots in ADA.
Everyone is a target.
If you support Hizbollocks, you are part of combat support or combat service support.
If you lend Jihad Joe a cot, you're a target.
If you give Jihad Joe a sammich, you're a target.
You are part of the support structure.
You part of the de facto terrorist army.
When you start caring as much about the Israeli kids that your favorite sons are trying to kill as you expect me to care about your kids that are dying, due to your choices, then maybe we can talk.
I'm not gonna hold my breath.
Posted by: Eisenhund
at July 30, 2006 9:37 AM
witness
Here are katyushas being launched without tubes. http://www.spectr.org/2005/082/katyusha_isrleb2.jpg I've seen better photos where 10 Katyushas (with no launch tubes) are lined up in an olive grove waiting to be launched into Eretz Israel
Posted by: dennisw
at July 30, 2006 10:00 AM
I just woke up to this story on Fox news. BOO freakin HOO! You muslims hide like the cowards you are, behind women and children who were probably trying to run since they were WARNED they were about to get shelled. BOO HOOOO! Civilians were killed by the Israeli's. BOO HOOO! Now everyone wants a cease fire because some muslim children were killed. BOO HOOO!
Leave Israel alone. They aren't finished yet.
Posted by: freewoman
at July 30, 2006 10:53 AM
Look. World opinion was bound to change. Remember 911? The sympathy at first and then the lack of sympathy that followed?
Israel is surrounded by islamic countries that want to wipe it off the map. Your EU is comprised of pc pacifists who think you can solve all problems by talking them to death.
If someone is holding a gun to your head and telling you that they are going to KILL YOU no matter what you do...HOW are you to negotiate with them? WHY BOTHER? Pacifist nations are idiots.
The QUESTION I want to ask is this...
WHERE ARE THE DEAD MEN IN THIS RAID???? Why were there women and children alone?
THIS WAS A SETUP like the Gaza Beach setup. Hezbollah is desperate and are manipulating the pathetic pacifist world community against Israel.
Hezbollah either took these women and children hostage (because they don't give a damn about them) OR they put a load of dead bodies of women and children there (to be found later) and then used the position to attack Israel, knowing what would be the result.
The WORLD community is stupid as hell and getting more retarded by the second.
HEZBOLLAH ATTACKED ISRAEL, crossed the border, lobbed rockets and took soldiers WHICH I AM SURE ARE DEAD.
How quickly the pc morons forget this....as they eagerly do a 'mel gibson' and show their anti-Semitic true colors.
Posted by: The Goobs
at July 30, 2006 11:29 AM
Since 7/7, since 11/3 and since 9/11 we are have pity???
Hoorray for Israel!!!
Posted by: nondhimmieuro
at July 30, 2006 12:17 PM
Article with photos showing Hezbollah's dirty tactics.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html
at July 30, 2006 12:31 PM
"An Israeli commander, Shuki Shahar, says 1,700 rockets have been fired over the border so far."
"All of it were addressed to the cities, to the settlements, to the villages to hit the innocent population and we are acting exactly the opposite - we address all the fire to hit the terrorists."
Isreal is showing the non-Muslim world how to fight against the terrorists by not only standing up to them, but taking the fight to them. They are also showing them that these are the same terrorists that we are going to have to face.
Hezbollah not only started this war but is the one who is hiding and fighting among the "skirts and bibs". At least the IDF warns all villagers ahead of time before they have to fire unto the village to LEAVE, to the credit of the IDF.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at July 30, 2006 12:38 PM
I wonder how many women tried to run away to save their children after the warnings only to be shot in the back by their "loving" husbands, neighbors and other muslim males?
Posted by: freewoman
at July 30, 2006 1:06 PM
The phrase "Don't start nothin' and it won't be nothin'" comes to mind. Or as the Bible says "Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind".
Posted by: Bohemond_1069
at July 30, 2006 1:07 PM
just now on CNN:
aerial video footage of a trailer truck launching rockets from right beside the building in question, launched 3 rockets and then drove into the buildings underground garage to hide... perfectly visible on this video!
The victims have been offered by local lebanese to be driven out of town, but refused because they are familymembers of fghting Hezbollah men (CNN background report + interviews in the street)
Posted by: cosmicAvenger
at July 30, 2006 1:29 PM
These people were rounded up and forced to become a target. The large amount of little children shows the lengths the minions of Satan will go to to get a cease-fire so they can regroup and fight another day.
Posted by: Carolyn2
at July 30, 2006 1:36 PM
The reason Hezbollah operate in close proximity is not to avoid attack and to hide behind them because they know the Israelis will take them on. It is to provide pictures of broken bodies of civilians and children to the home market, it works. We don't do that because we are civilised, they are not, they are worse than animals. Anyway, won't those children be firing rockets as soon as they are in middle school?
Katusha rockets may be a semi effective weapon against the civilians of Israel which the press likes to ignore, the pictures of dead children are however, by far Hezbollah's most effective weapon.
The media, including the BBC have been exaggerating attacks on cars leaving the cities, the journalists are surrounded by armed terrorists so they will probably say whatever is put into their mouths.
Hezbollah has also been rumoured to be forcing civilians to mass around rocket launcher sites.
When I see a picture of a dead Muslim I don't see what I would had it been Europe or Africa, I just see a shell of a human, they lives lives of empty shells when in life and they also died lives of empty shells.
At least they are no longer infected with the cancer of Islam.
Posted by: IceDragon
at July 30, 2006 2:05 PM
Fox news this am:
Someone reporting for the Israelis has stated that the bombing occurred at 12-2am (not sure exactly), and that the losses were not reported until 6-7am, local time. The report definitely _did_ say that the emergency vehicles didn't arrive there until 6-7am. Israel is saying that the area has been leafleted telling people to get out. People say they couldn't get out - the roads were blocked by damage from bombing, but the Fox reporter said they had no trouble getting in.
There was another statement that I semi-heard that sounded to me like the Israelis were raising the possibility that the building had been leveled by Hezbollah. Whether that's actually what they were saying, and whether they were saying this as a "Hezbollah deliberately blew up this building with the people in it", or "Hezbollah had explosives stored in the building and they apparently exploded", I didn't get clearly. In fact, I haven't heard anything more about it from anybody - is that _really_ what I heard? I can hardly imagine that if that _is_ what they're saying that it wouldn't be trumpeted from the 4 corners...!
at July 30, 2006 3:00 PM
Ex-CIA chief Jim Woolsey was interviewed on FOX and he said that the building in Qana may well have been blown up by Hezbollah.He said Hezbollah is not above blowing up their own civilians and then blaming Isreal.
Posted by: Roxane
at July 30, 2006 4:15 PM
Eisenhund,
Mao led an army of poor Chinese peasants who walked around in cheap open sandals if they were not barefoot [correct me if I'm wrong]. But the hizbullah constituency is fairly prosperous nowadays. Note in the films and still photos that they are fairly well dressed, wearing new clothes in good condition, nothing threadbare for them. So these are not poverty stricken peasants. Look too at the buildings in the villages. They are not living in grass huts, mud huts, wooden shacks, or tents. They have substantial houses in these villages. These are not Mao or Ho Chi Minh's poor peasants from the boondocks. Furthermore, Many people from Bint J'bayl --for example-- have moved to Dearborn Michigan in the USA, near Detroit. They are rather prosperous there and have also been sending money back to Lebanon. So these hizbullah rank and file hoodlums should not enjoy the romantic aura of the "poor" and "humble" rising up a la Mao and Che, etc.
at July 30, 2006 5:57 PM
-Eliyahu,
Not the point. Read it again, if you must. That goddamned communist Mao is no hero of mine and his guerillas were not to be romanticized, rather vilified.
The point was, if you are a "civilian" and you fulfill the role of support personnel, a role that in real armies is filled by uniformed personnel, then you are part of the terrorist army and therefore a target.
Hizbollocks enjoys support among the population. That makes the populace contributors to Hizzy's efforts. Which makes them a target.
In any case, the point wasn't to draw a historical or political parallel between Hiz and the Chinese communists, more a logistical one. I think you know that and I don't know why you decided to quibble about details that were not related to my post and did not refute what I said by you bringing them up.
at July 30, 2006 9:36 PM
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