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It wasn't even 52 a few days ago. It was 57. Now it's 28 -- more evidence that whatever the truth of this incident, it has been obscured by deception upon deception. From Haaretz, with thanks to all who sent this in:
A Tyre hospital on Thursday revised the number of casualties resulting from Israel's air strike on the south Lebanese village of Qana from 52 down to 28.On Wednesday, Human Rights Watch questioned the death toll in the Qana attack. The international group listed the names of 28 known dead from the attack and said that 13 others were missing and might still be buried under the rubble. The discrepancy was attributed to an assumption that only nine of the people who took shelter in the basement of the building survived, but it emerged that at least 22 escaped, the group said.
An Israel Defense Forces' inquiry on the bombing of a building in Qana that killed the 28 civilians admits a mistake but charges that Hezbollah guerrillas used civilians as shields for their rocket attacks, according to a statement released early Thursday.
Posted by Robert at August 3, 2006 11:18 AM
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Surprise Surprise,
Also they should be ashamed of the staged photo's parading the dead around for 2 hours in the searing heat, no dignity for the dead.
Should also be ashamed for firing the missiles next to the building knowing what will happen and also for storing missiles inside the buidling.
Hizballah is guilty of WAR CRIMES itself.
Once they are finished - Iran and Syria should be next.
That is Israels plan - eliminate the Proxies before striking the sponsors. Then a minimal amount of terrorist backlash will occur when you strike.
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at August 3, 2006 11:34 AM
Yeah, yeah. Chill out.
All wars have erroneous body counts.
They still bombed civilians.
Posted by: SM at August 3, 2006 12:22 PM
Yeah, yeah. Chill out.
All wars have erroneous body counts.
They still bombed civilians.
Posted by: SM
Yeah, yeah. Chill out.
All wars have civilian casualties.
Only wars with Islamists have their own on purpose.
at August 3, 2006 12:29 PM
Spunky little Hezbullah holding out against the devastating air power of the giant monster military machine of the Zionists and 'knowing every inch of the terrain' because it is there (sob)...home.. ....
I can't go on I've got a lump in my throat... just read it.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14156111/
The MSM creates a 'story' with characters, roles, good guys and bad guys and by golly, they stick to their scripts. Islam has long since caught on and they feed us our own stereotypes, act out the story for us and however crudely it is done, we seem to buy.
at August 3, 2006 12:32 PM
ISRAEL should be allowed to continue the hunt for Hezbollah as any ceasefire would cause problems and would not stop the violence
Even more problematic is the prospect that the United Nations will shortly mandate--with U.S. backing and Israel's acquiescence--the insertion into southern Lebanon of an armed international force. Its purpose, ostensibly, will be to enforce a ceasefire pursuant to a new Chapter 7 Security Council resolution. If its job is to "keep" the peace, not make it, such a force will by definition require Hezbollah's assent to enter. The peacekeepers will understand, moreover, that they will be allowed to remain there in safety only if they do not interfere with the terrorists' rebuilding and resupply activities in south Lebanon.
The make-up of this force may compound the problem. Under discussion are troop contributions from places like Turkey, Indonesia and France--nations that are not likely to prove unfriendly to Hezbollah and that are, to varying degrees, hostile to Israel. In short, this will be just another anti-Israel U.N. mission, providing protection to the Free World's terrorist foes and doing little if anything to keep them from readying new attacks on freedom-loving peoples.
at August 3, 2006 12:42 PM
ISRAEL should be allowed to continue the hunt for Hezbollah as any ceasefire would cause problems and would not stop the violence
Even more problematic is the prospect that the United Nations will shortly mandate--with U.S. backing and Israel's acquiescence--the insertion into southern Lebanon of an armed international force. Its purpose, ostensibly, will be to enforce a ceasefire pursuant to a new Chapter 7 Security Council resolution. If its job is to "keep" the peace, not make it, such a force will by definition require Hezbollah's assent to enter. The peacekeepers will understand, moreover, that they will be allowed to remain there in safety only if they do not interfere with the terrorists' rebuilding and resupply activities in south Lebanon.
The make-up of this force may compound the problem. Under discussion are troop contributions from places like Turkey, Indonesia and France--nations that are not likely to prove unfriendly to Hezbollah and that are, to varying degrees, hostile to Israel. In short, this will be just another anti-Israel U.N. mission, providing protection to the Free World's terrorist foes and doing little if anything to keep them from readying new attacks on freedom-loving peoples.
at August 3, 2006 12:42 PM
And how many Israeli civilians are currently dead? Hmmmm, 'Human-Rights Watch'?
I think that Human Rights Watch opposes Human Rights worldwide, just as Jihad Watch opposes Jihad worldwide.
at August 3, 2006 12:47 PM
Well, it really doesn't matter now what the body count is as a result of the Qana incident since Hezbollah has already won the media war and painted Israel as the villain. Instead of everyone pushing for an end to the hostilities, the nations of the world should choose a side and carry the fight to the end, wherever it may lead. There will never be a peaceful reconciliation between Muslims and Judeo-Christians, because Islam will not allow it. The longer the West waits to do what must be done - defeat the concept of Islamic jihad and eliminate those who believe and promote it - the more difficult the job will become. Add nuclear weapons to the mix, and it may be too late. BTW, where is Human Rights Watch when a Hezbo rocket lands in Israel?
Posted by: Kreuzueber Halbmond at August 3, 2006 12:48 PM
Where are the Human rights people when children are blown up playing soccer, when people are blown up attending weddings and funerals, when people are blown up attending church services, when people are blown up standing in line to apply for a job, when people are blown up while going to a movie, when people are blown up while teaching or attending school, when people are blown up when helping victims of an earlier bombing etc.etc.
The Human rights people show up and complain only when they can point their ugly finger at people trying to do the right thing such as Israel or anyone who fights terror.
The Human rights people are scared of the Islamic terrorists, they know terrorists kill those who have courage to stand up and tell the truth.
The Human rights people are dhimmis, I know it and they know it.
They should be disbanded.
at August 3, 2006 12:55 PM
exsgtbrown asks "Where are the Human rights people when children are blown up playing soccer, when people are blown up attending weddings and funerals, when people are blown up attending church services, when people are blown up standing in line to apply for a job, when people are blown up while going to a movie, when people are blown up while teaching or attending school, when people are blown up when helping victims of an earlier bombing etc.etc."
I'll tell you where they are. Click on the link below and read this eye-popper:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23630
at August 3, 2006 1:08 PM
SM:
this is probably to subtle for moral equivalencers like you, but the IDF didn't target civilians. They targeted rocket launching installations that Hezbollah intentionally erected in the midst of a residential area.
On the other hand, Hezbollah fires hundreds of missiles filled with ball bearings and other tiny projectiles at Israeli hospitals and residential areas with every intent of killing or maiming as many civilians as they can. Their limited "success" is not for lack of trying.
Posted by: waterdragon52 at August 3, 2006 1:30 PM
International Human Rights should change its name to International Terrorist Rights.
The men who work there are all taking bribes from OPEC nations.
Not an once of credence is found in their words.
Posted by: ssa at August 3, 2006 1:33 PM
And I supposae sm that those men who arived inthat village in a truck mounted with twin 23mm AA cannons were merely vegetable sellers.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at August 3, 2006 1:44 PM
28....52...sounds like a "numbers game" to me.
Please don't print that Peggy Noonan, I've been drinking again.
at August 3, 2006 2:13 PM
Israeli Tourists Attacked In Turkey
2 maids attempting to flee Lebanon die - NOT a result of Israeli air strikes
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at August 3, 2006 2:22 PM
Kreuzueber Halbmond wrote :
"The longer the West waits to do what must be done - defeat the concept of Islamic jihad and eliminate those who believe and promote it - the more difficult the job will become."
Am I the only one here who believes the West is not willing to acknowledge the seriousness of this problem? With the MSM moaning and wailing about the dead innocents, have we lost sight of the bigger picture? Israel is the battlefront today, but America and Europe are undoubtedly next on the Islamist's dance card.
We don't seem to be taking this seriously enough, even though the eastern outpost of freedom and democracy is already at war with Islam. Are we foolish enough to believe it will end there?
Posted by: Muzzl'em at August 3, 2006 2:33 PM
Israel is the battlefront today, but America and Europe are undoubtedly next on the Islamist's dance card.
You're not the only one who takes the threat of Islam seriously, Muzzl'em. You are correct. The explosions are happening in Israel and Lebanon now, but the tentacles of Islam - under the guise of a peaceful and loving religion - is creeping into the fabric of Western culture. The governments of the Western world are in the habit of appeasement when it comes to the demands made by Muslims. The Islamic community uses the freedom afforded by our system to advance their cause of domination and eventual destruction of the infidel. Instead of assimilating our way of life, we are required to change ours to please them. One mustn't dare stand up to or question an Islamist for fear of reprisal. Things will only get worse until Judeo-Christians remove the scourge of Islam from society.
Posted by: Kreuzueber Halbmond at August 3, 2006 2:53 PM
The UN proposed cease fire. As soon as Bush said, "Oh, no! I want you guys moving and disarm Hizbullah first before cease fire," They chickened out.
Bwok, Bwok, Bwok, Bwok, Bwok.....
at August 3, 2006 3:43 PM
It appears there are a few in the blogosphere who understand this rapidly approaching threat, but not one in a leadership position prepared to do anything about it. Here in Canada, our newly minted Conservative government is taking it on the chin for siding with Israel. It looks like a no-brainer to me, but polls indicate that 80% of Canadians actually favour a neutral postion. I'm appalled at this result, unless the poll has been rigged...
I'm less sure of the stance of other Western leaders, but except for the ridiculous calls for a ceasefire which will only allow Hezbollah to re-arm and regroup, I'm hearing nothing resembling decisive leadership from the West. Perhaps our leaders fear loss of votes or other reprisals, but failing to take this seriously NOW will have dire consequences. August 22nd is approaching....
It's great to find common ground here on the internet, but what good is that, really? How are we going to wake everyone else up? Somehow we have a duty to make our voices heard, but the MSM is conducting a surprisingly good job of brainwashing.
Posted by: Muzzl'em at August 3, 2006 3:47 PM
Here's Cox & Forkum's graphic depiction: http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000900.html
Posted by: scaramouoche at August 3, 2006 3:49 PM
Hezbollywood Horror: "Civil Defense Worker" doubles as Traveling Mortician?
Based on these descriptions, it seems highly likely that Abu Shadi the mortician and Abu Shadi the green-helmeted "civil defense worker" are one and the same.
This is more sinister than pallywood has come with yet
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Diplomacy/9036.htm
Posted by: shiva at August 3, 2006 4:11 PM
I still haven't seen this article published anywhere other than the Israeli press and the blogosphere. If anyone finds it published in the MSM, can you provide a link? Thanks.
Posted by: Howard, Fine & Howard at August 3, 2006 4:28 PM
Posted by: Howard, Fine & Howard
I still haven't seen this article published anywhere other than the Israeli press and the blogosphere. If anyone finds it published in the MSM, can you provide a link? Thanks.
Well its up to us to get it out
Posted by: shiva at August 3, 2006 4:47 PM
Math was never Islams strong point. Over estimation and reaction is the way of Islam!
A good example is what the Mongols did to Islam. Now of course the Mongols were crude and murderous but the Islamic reasons for the conflict and the loss of life are so overblown they are comical.
In fact right now on a Canadian Muslims website (www.youngmuslims.ca/articles/display.asp?ID=94) a artical by Jawad Jafry claims these numbers as if truth...
Nishapur 1,747,000 dead
Baghdad 1,600,000 dead
Herat 1,600,000 dead
Samarkand 950,000 dead
Merv 700,000 dead
Aleppo 50,000 dead
Balkh completely destroyed
Khiva completely destroyed
Harran completely destroyed
With the gist of the artical that the Mongols almost wiped out Islam....(go Genghis go!)
He quotes:
"His barbaric legions were triggered into a forty year bloodlust through the folly of the Muslim ruler, Muhammad Khwarizm Shah. Once a powerful and mighty monarch, Khwarizm Shah ordered the execution of Mongol caravans that came to trade within his kingdom. When Genghis Khan sent a delegation of envoys to lodge a formal protest, Khwarizm Shah executed most of them."
Gee! Maybe old Genghis has been getting a raw deal all these years! My god he tried diplomacy!
Of course the real reason was Khwarizm Shah wanted to convert China to Islam and the Mongols were getting in the way becuase they also wanted China. He saw the Mongols as simple "steppe people" easy prey for the armies of Allah. So he started attacking Mongol trading parties and was preparing an army of invasion. Genghis (as warlike as he was) tried time and again to find a peaceful way out only to have his envoys heads return with the message "convert to Islam or die". Of course history tells us this was a BIG mistake!
Genghis said many things with some cruel but some enlightened for his time...
After defeating Muslim city he is reported to have said...
"I am the punishment of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent punishment like me upon you."
He can't be all bad.
Posted by: greatcometof1577 at August 3, 2006 4:50 PM
The lesson is....
NEVER TRUST MUSLIMS TO GIVE CORRECT NUMBERS OR FACTS ABOUT ANYTHING!
Posted by: greatcometof1577 at August 3, 2006 4:52 PM
Human shields? thye wouldn't! Would they? (Sarcasm off.)
Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at August 3, 2006 10:31 PM
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