Here's an idea which would eliminate 'profiling'.

You could just have separate flights for muslims (give the planes names like 'shoebomb express' and 'mad mohammed' and call the airline '72 Virgin') - employ Pakistani technicians to maintain the planes (most would then stand on the runway all day, leaking oil, unable to fly into any buildings).

They would employ cabin crew dressed in burkhas, serving sports drinks during the in-flight martyr videos, asking passengers to switch ON their disposable cell phones during take-off, landing and whenever entering the toilets.

The pre-flight safety demonstration would show how to strap on and detonate bomb belts during a perfectly peaceful flight between Brum and Islamabad, asking parents to assist their children before fitting their own. The pilot will be a crazed Imam who has completed 30 minutes of training on a Microsoft Flight Simulator video game.

Shias would board at the back, Sunnis at the front, with a UN peacekeeping force deployed in between, handing out grenades and providing weapons training facilities and drafting new resolutions against the Israelis' despicable habit of drinking coffee in public places.

What do you think?

Posted by: The Goobs at August 14, 2006 9:40 AM

These guys would be great show stoppers at those meetings of conspiracy theorists who believe that the WTC buildings where deliberatly blown up by the Bush Administration and the Identified, and perpetrating airline hijackers are somewhere still alive.

Posted by: Mackie at August 14, 2006 9:42 AM

Some Italian newspapers today show the pictures of the lynching of a Palestinian man, killed yesterday in front of a jubilant crowd for allegations of collaborating with the Israelis. There are no direct links, but these pictures are available following the links from the main pages of these newspapers:
http://www.corriere.it/
http://www.repubblica.it/
You need a little knowledge of Italian to spot the right links immediately, but if don’t recognise the right links then be patient and try many links, and you’ll eventually see these pictures, but only today, since tomorrow they won’t be news anymore.

These are not the sort of images you are going to see in John Pilger’s documentary at the Barbican:
http://www.barbican.org.uk/film/event-detail.asp?ID=4753

Again and again we must swallow only beautifying portraits of “Palestinian people fighting for justice”, without ever knowing of course what justice truly means in those minds.

The violence? An “extreme reaction” to the “unjust occupation”. Always displacement of responsibilities.

Posted by: Laura at August 14, 2006 9:53 AM

"I believe this so-called plot is all a fabrication aimed at covering up the actions of George Bush and Tony Blair," said Abdul Ullah, 26. "Sadly, people will believe whatever they are told these days."

Illuminating comment (yeah right!) from a brain dead zombie. "Us Muzlims do nothing wrong, it's all a lie, it's a zionist plot. We is innocent..... It's everyone else picking on us!!!"

Yada yada yada...............ad infinitum.

Posted by: Turbinehead at August 14, 2006 10:02 AM

Of COURSE muslims are gonna blame somebody else!! That is what muslims DO. When have you EVER heard of a muslim taking responsibility for ANYTHING except a terror attack??? It just doesn't happen.

These blind, lying, murderous barbarians are no longer welcome in the civilized world. The West needs to give them an actual reason to complain, a VERY BIG one NOW!

Posted by: angryeagle at August 14, 2006 10:08 AM

This site is so zionist (I need to separate zionism and jewishness, since there are rabbies who oppose zionism, I suppose).

Their mind is so wicked, and their heart is so hardened (blame it to the hisory... ho ho holocaust).

They wouldn't mind doing anything inhumane, such as killing women and children, because they have ho ho holocaust to justify their acts.

I'm neither moslem, jew, or christian, and I'm happy for it. Those semitic belief systems stink full of prophecy bullshits, messiah mumbo jumbos, "choosen people" kind of crap, and "caliphate" childish obsession.... no spiritual values inside..., that's why they have been the cause of all the wars on this planet.

Posted by: semiticbeliefsystemsstink at August 14, 2006 10:09 AM

semiticbeliefsystemsstink

I hear what you're saying and it sounds like this:

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BOO HOO BLAH BLAH BLAH

Posted by: The Goobs at August 14, 2006 10:18 AM

Doesn't the term "Welsh Muslim" just roll off your lips?

Posted by: Seymour Paine at August 14, 2006 10:43 AM

"Those semitic belief systems . . . have been the cause of all the wars on this planet."

Like the Greek-Persian wars, the Punic Wars, the Viking wars, the Chinese-Japanese War, the Russo-German War of 1941-1945 (between two atheistical states) etc. etc.? War is a fact of human society, and religious belief has no monopoly of it.

Posted by: JFGR at August 14, 2006 10:50 AM

"YOUNG Welsh Muslims have accused the Government of master-minding this week's plot to blow up transatlantic jets mid-air to justify Tony Blair's war on terror."

For too many Muslims, they are always victims, and thus that permits them to rationalize any Muslim's act of murder, harm or exploitation done to Infidels. Such Muslims do not permit themselves to see the reality that they are Islamic Fascists. Being called what they are makes them indignant.

Too many Muslims consider themselves the victims of the murdered Africans in Sudan, of Jews in Israel, of people on trains in India, or of folks on airplanes, in Britain and elsewhere in "Dar-al-Harb". And if the facts show that such Muslims are Genocidal-Islamic-Fascists, if the facts are too painful for such Muslims, they can always deny reality or project onto Infidels their own methods. For them, being a Muslim is never having to say they are sorry.

In like manner, the CAIR-American-Bund twists reality to suit themselves in order to see what they desire to see. It's a mental illness. It's Orwellian.

Posted by: Frank at August 14, 2006 10:51 AM

"YOUNG Welsh Muslims have accused the Government of master-minding this week's plot to blow up transatlantic jets mid-air to justify Tony Blair's war on terror."

For too many Muslims, they are always victims, and thus that permits them to rationalize any Muslim's act of murder, harm or exploitation done to Infidels. Such Muslims do not permit themselves to see the reality that they are Islamic Fascists. Being called what they are makes them indignant.

Too many Muslims consider themselves the victims of the murdered Africans in Sudan, of Jews in Israel, of people on trains in India, or of folks on airplanes, in Britain and elsewhere in "Dar-al-Harb". And if the facts show that such Muslims are Genocidal-Islamic-Fascists, if the facts are too painful for such Muslims, they can always deny reality or project onto Infidels their own methods. For them, being a Muslim is never having to say they are sorry.

In like manner, the CAIR-American-Bund twists reality to suit themselves in order to see what they desire to see. It's a mental illness. It's Orwellian.

Posted by: Frank at August 14, 2006 10:51 AM

Every time I hear a Muslims insist that the terrorism plot is a hoax it appears to imply that Muslims don't have the brains to pull it off , don't put it past them to resort to actually boasting about being too stupid to create anything complex.

Posted by: ala-sux at August 14, 2006 10:51 AM

Every time I hear a Muslims insist that the terrorism plot is a hoax it appears to imply that Muslims don't have the brains to pull it off , don't put it past them to resort to actually boasting about being too stupid to create anything complex.

Posted by: ala-sux at August 14, 2006 10:51 AM

Every time I hear a Muslims insist that the terrorism plot is a hoax it appears to imply that Muslims don't have the brains to pull it off , don't put it past them to resort to actually boasting about being too stupid to create anything complex.

Posted by: ala-sux at August 14, 2006 10:51 AM

Welsh Muslims?
Now there's a concept to sort the sheep from the goats!
Dai Baaa...

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at August 14, 2006 11:09 AM

I refer one and all to Kipling for the apt description of the British muslims now explaining how it was all a lying Zionist Yankee plot to frame innocent yada yada yada and the imposition of islamic law over that of Queen in Parliment will lead to the descent of heaven to earth, muslim countries are peaceful and depricate violence not fund it and the worldwide dominion of islam will make us all perfect yada yada yada:

If black is black and white is white
In black and white it's down
You're rebels to The Queen
And traitors to the Crown;
If words are words and print is print,
The learned court prebends,
We are not ruled by murderers,
Only by their friends.

I am sure the friends of murderous mullahs are telling MI5 all it wants to know right about now.

Posted by: duvaldoxy at August 14, 2006 11:27 AM

"YOUNG Welsh Muslims" muslims or Welsh, take your pick, but the two words do not go together.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at August 14, 2006 11:29 AM

semiticbeliefsystemsstink,
simple minded much?
They wouldn't mind doing anything inhumane, such as killing women and children,
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/TheList.htm

Posted by: Carolyn2 at August 14, 2006 11:36 AM

For the Italian-challenged, follow the following link to the murder of the "informer" mentioned in Laura's post above:

http://www.repubblica.it/2006/05/gallerie/esteri/palestinese-esecuzione/1.html

Posted by: longtime lurker at August 14, 2006 11:50 AM

If people believed what they are told then of course
we would all believe Islam is a peaceful and humanitarian religion bent above all in the altruistic spread of its faith. Yeah right ...Abdul

Posted by: Kelticman at August 14, 2006 11:51 AM

"Welsh muslims". I have a headache again.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at August 14, 2006 12:29 PM

Aw, c'mon, JFGR, everyone knows that the Jews were behind the Japanese attack on China. It's the only explanation that makes any sense. And the Greeks and Persians: Don't get me started on that!!

Posted by: Seymour Paine at August 14, 2006 12:39 PM

I'm not the least bit surprised Welsh muslims think the plots are all a hoax. We have plenty of liberals in this country who think the same damn thing. Idiots.

Posted by: fireangel at August 14, 2006 1:23 PM

Hear hear....

"I'm the new messiah..., kill me!" (tm)

Haha!

Posted by: semiticbeliefsystemsstink at August 14, 2006 1:28 PM

Greetings Catstrangler101
This might tickle your fancy.
And anybody else with a sense of the ridiculous.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at August 14, 2006 1:30 PM

Robert,

Have you deleted an earlier post of semiticbeliefsystemsstink's?

'Hear hear....

"I'm the new messiah..., kill me!" (tm)

Haha!'

I think mine or his medication needs re-evaluating.

Posted by: western infidel at August 14, 2006 2:19 PM

Frank says:

"In like manner, the CAIR-American-Bund twists reality to suit themselves in order to see what they desire to see. It's a mental illness. It's Orwellian."

Oh, it's not a "mental illness" at all. It's a sane, coldly deliberate tactic of taqiyya or disinformation. The Islamists know exactly what they're doing. And amongst themselves, once they've scanned their rooms to make sure they're not bugged, they must high-five each other in Arabic about how they've got the entire democratic West fooled, terrified, or both. They probably have the same idea of Westerners as the Nazis did in the 1930's, when the Nazis said amongst themselves:

Democracy has no convictions for which people would be willing to risk their lives."

Posted by: Steven L. at August 14, 2006 2:50 PM

Frank says:

"In like manner, the CAIR-American-Bund twists reality to suit themselves in order to see what they desire to see. It's a mental illness. It's Orwellian."

Oh, it's not a "mental illness" at all. It's a sane, coldly deliberate tactic of taqiyya or disinformation. The Islamists know exactly what they're doing. And amongst themselves, once they've scanned their rooms to make sure they're not bugged, they must high-five each other in Arabic about how they've got the entire democratic West fooled, terrified, or both. They probably have the same idea of Westerners as the Nazis did in the 1930's, when the Nazis said amongst themselves:

Democracy has no convictions for which people would be willing to risk their lives."

Posted by: Steven L. at August 14, 2006 2:53 PM

"Aw, c'mon, JFGR, everyone knows that the Jews were behind the Japanese attack on China. It's the only explanation that makes any sense. And the Greeks and Persians: Don't get me started on that!!"

Sorry, Seymour, I stand corrected!

Posted by: JFGR at August 14, 2006 2:55 PM

How can a community be so delusional(atleast a big section of community)?

I have seen how this blame mentality work first hand in India.

A Hindu/Buddhist/Sikh/Jain/Christian family will try to have just the right number of kids they can parent responsibly. They will plan for kid’s education and would like their kids succeed as professionals.

Contrast this with a some of the Muslim families. They do not believe in family planning. They thing they can have couple of wives and as many children as humanly possible. Parent will not be able to send all the kids to good schools. Kids will end up helping dad in the family business (if any). They will attend religious schools. As a result they can't join a decent company or a government job. This leads to a low economic and low intellect community.

Here comes the rub. Now who is responsible for all this? You know it. It is because Hindus and others discriminated against Muslims. Now you may ask What???? Here comes the greatest insult, Leftist political leaders and liberal media will sing the tune to help these oppressed communities by awarding those Quotas in Government jobs and Colleges.

God save us from this madness

Posted by: Desi at August 14, 2006 3:04 PM

Dr. Sam Ben ,29, added: "As far as I can make out, people have been arrested, but none have been charged with anything or were caught at the scene of any crime. I believe the whole operation has been a smoke-screen."

Based on surveilance, and given that an attack may have been OVERTED, what is being investigated is a CONSPIRACY to commit a crime, doctor. Happens every day. Go ahead and look that one up in-between lobotomy procedures.

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott at August 14, 2006 3:13 PM

First off, Gogs in Colwyn Bay would not be found saying 'isn't it'. There isn't a welsh born person who would for that matter. The correct colloquialisation would be 'en(t) it'. :) Butty!!

Living not too far and in constant 'observation' of these so called 'Welsh Muslims' I can honestly say that they are incredibly deluded. However, I could say the same for the ex mining population. This is a region where inhabitants read (skim) only The Sun or The Mirror and get all there worldy info from the beeb.

This is a region with such little thought procces that traffic cones would be voted for so long as they wore the red rose. The area is just as deluded as these 'MuZlims'.

The problem, from my perspective at least, is that people in the valleys are being dumbed down and spoon fed. So long as they can bank a giro, they're happy. The Labour Party have succesfully molded a nation so that it can't survive without them.

The tipping point, however, is nie. It seems as though the welsh youth are breaking free from the liberal mould. The only problem being, they don't know why. Watch the years to follow...

I could write some more dribble but I realise it's late, i've digressed and that I haven't slept for more than 5hours a night in 6months.

Album: Gladiator Soundtrack
Drink: Council Pop
Food: Black Biro
Age: 18

Tara But!

Posted by: Nanny Ogg at August 14, 2006 6:44 PM

Greetings Catstrangler101
This might tickle your fancy.
And anybody else with a sense of the ridiculous.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax

Granny, it is beyond ridiculous. It is bizarre. The muslims are obsessed with goats, sheep and camels. And the kids watching this series are the ones who are going to saw off the heads of sheep this eid. Though they do the sawing off daily, for it is considered holy, a day before eid, in muslim hovels, they tie heart shaped balloons to the horns of goats and sheep. Morbid.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at August 14, 2006 9:13 PM

semiticbeliefsystemsstink:

'I'm neither moslem, jew, or christian, and I'm happy for it.'

Whether or not you belong to a religion is completely irrelevent. Do you think the jihadis will give you a free pass because you abjure all religion?

'that's why they [religions] have been the cause of all the wars on this planet'.

I suppose if you count Communism, Maoism, etc as 'religions' this is true. Communism is responsible for killing more people than the Inquisition or bin Laden ever dreamed of.

Posted by: Deecha at August 14, 2006 10:09 PM

Greetings Nanny Ogg.

:-)

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at August 15, 2006 3:27 AM

"Here comes the greatest insult, Leftist political leaders and liberal media will sing the tune to help these oppressed communities by awarding those Quotas in Government jobs and Colleges.

God save us from this madness"

Which is the greatest problem with democracy: irresponsible parenting is always rewarded, at least in the long run.

Posted by: Lili at August 15, 2006 4:21 AM

I'm half welsh and have family down that way and the thought of wailing muslims in Cardiff makes me laugh till my teeth hurt!
My Welsh Grandfather parachuted into Arnhem and suffered "the bridge too far"
We have a good knowledge of dealing with facists.

If the crybaby muslims took to the streets with placards I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the hardcore rugby lads who drink the local beer called "brains" will not stand idly by like the dhimmis in London.

They'll be a few cracked heads I can tell you.

A pint of brains anyone?

p.s. some of my best friends are sheep..baaaaa.

Posted by: ovinesongs at August 15, 2006 9:17 AM

When they say the whole plot is fake, do they explain the martyrdom videos?

Are they all part of the plot? Unlikely.

Posted by: Borg at August 15, 2006 12:44 PM