...and The Infidel Public will not succumb to the language of fear and threats.

We'll rip the religion out of you instead...

Posted by: Quantum Infidel at August 14, 2006 11:37 AM

By succumb to UN cease fire in Lebanon, the infidel has already sent a signal of succumbing to the language of fear. Sad.

The west has no more balls.

Posted by: ssa at August 14, 2006 11:44 AM

I knew it...just when I paid down my Visa bill ,saved enough money for my hair implants , lost weight to finally sit on the beach without kids trying to roll me back in the water to save me like a beached whale .

I knew it....I never get a break .

Posted by: ala-sux at August 14, 2006 11:49 AM

Yes, more "if you don't let us produce nukes, we will produce nukes (and you have only yourselves to blame)".
.....................

From above:

“Naturally, if Europe goes down the wrong path, we will definitely change our path and act proportionately”, Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid-Reza Asefi told reporters during his weekly press conference.
......

I don't know how good the translation is, but does anyone think the use of the word "proportionately" is a tweek to the charges that Israel has been acting "disproportionately"?

Posted by: gravenimage at August 14, 2006 11:50 AM

Disproportionately inadequate use of force on Israel part.

Posted by: ssa at August 14, 2006 11:54 AM

It's too late to deal with Iran or Korea now, as it is to deal with Pakistan. No nation would be able to deal with any of these savages.

The Nuclear war has become reality, whether we like it or not. It is upon us.

Posted by: ssa at August 14, 2006 11:59 AM

I knew it...just when I paid down my Visa bill ,saved enough money for my hair implants , lost weight to finally sit on the beach without kids trying to roll me back in the water to save me like a beached whale .

I knew it....I never get a break .

Posted by: ala-sux

That's funny.

I know man, I had better things to do than fight jihad. I have plans and goals for a constructive life. If the destructive jihadis obstruct the way they have to be dealt with. Such is life - the best-laid plans and all that... the thing to do in my estimation is to see this as a roadblock in the long run and just start taking it on.

ala-sux - you're in Canada, you've got more disposable income than before and you're in better shape than previously - that's three bonus points for you... I would recommend preparing yourself for the onslaught in many dimensions, including the physical and use the money to get yourself ready for the worst... like an earthquake or something - this is something which is catastrophic, could happen at any time, but seems abstract to most people. Do what you can & prepare as best you can & appreciate the sweet insanity of life. Sometimes I think it's all a big, cosmic joke.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at August 14, 2006 12:01 PM

As I said many times...think of Iran as a giant truck bomb with Mahmoud as the driver..They believe they cant lose because of the Mahdi..This is real.

Posted by: storagemanager at August 14, 2006 12:03 PM

I can just image the BOOMER SUBS lurking nearby may have just gone to a higher state of readiness.

This Iranian moonbat is determined to kill millions, even if it is his own people.

I have learned that Muslims want to die anyway.

This Iranian moonbat is going to grant their wish.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at August 14, 2006 12:13 PM

OT but encouraging Amnesty International criticizes UN Human Rights Council for ignoring Hizbollahs violations of human rights Lebanon/Israel: Human Rights Council members put politics before lives

Members of the UN Human Rights Council today failed sadly in their responsibility to address the full range of abuses being committed by both Israel and Hizbullah and put politics before lives, Amnesty International said today, as the Council adopted by vote a resolution on the grave situation of human rights in Lebanon caused by Israeli military operations.

"The Council had an opportunity to address forcefully the appalling crisis in Lebanon and Israel with a united voice," said Peter Splinter, Amnesty International's Representative at the United Nations in Geneva. "Instead, members' focus on their narrow political objectives resulted in a highly-politicised resolution that muted the Council's voice by ignoring the violations of one party to the conflict."

Amnesty International welcomed the Council's call for a high-level commission of inquiry into serious violations committed by Israel, but noted that the Council completely failed to address serious abuses being committed by Hizbullah.

Posted by: Nariz at August 14, 2006 12:15 PM

Muslim grade school chant:

We kill you, we kill you, we kill you, and then

if you try to kill us back, we kill you AGAIN...

Posted by: n.a. palm at August 14, 2006 12:24 PM

We're being played like a violin.

Posted by: limes at August 14, 2006 12:34 PM

“Naturally, if Europe goes down the wrong path, we will definitely change our path and act proportionately"

What I interpret from this is that Europe is the target. The one that is in reach of their missiles. The trading lanes were threatened some time back.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at August 14, 2006 12:36 PM

But I thought Iran only sought nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. That's what they told us.

Posted by: Trance at August 14, 2006 12:42 PM

Naturally, if Europe goes down the wrong path, we will definitely change our path and act proportionately”,

Where is Lord Chamberlin when you need him?

Does this mean that the "fat lady is gonna sing" one week from Tuesday over Jerusalem as the "lights go out in Georgia?"

George! Has it occurred to you yet that this man might be dangerous?

Or do you still imagine that he wants to join your little club of globalist leaders?

Why you invite him to the next G-8?

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 12:46 PM

I don't know if Iran's threats have teeth or not. What I do know is they want us to fear them. They want us to be afraid. This is exactly what we must not do. The only thing fear does is give our enemies power over us.

I also know that if they do have nukes and use them they are in for a very nasty surprise on two levels.... the mushroom clouds that will appear over their country and the no show of their mahdi.

Posted by: fireangel at August 14, 2006 1:12 PM

Witness: Gunmen kidnap two Fox News journalists in Gaza (Reuters) http://www.haaretz.com/

Posted by: storagemanager at August 14, 2006 1:14 PM

Why all of a sudden does it feel like October 1938 - the month Neville Chamberlain landed on the tarmac runway back home proclaiming "Peace in our time"? Never mind the fact that Czechoslovakia was stripped of the Sudetenland, and was about to be stripped of Czechoslovakia itself. Rather than waving a scrap of paper proclaiming peace, Chamberlain was waving a death warrant with the name 'Czechoslovakia' emblazoned all over it, and his own barely-dried signature upon it.

So forward we go 68 years to 2006 and replace 'Czechoslovakia' with 'Israel', and 'Chamberlain' and 'Daladier' with 'Bush' and, 'Rice', with no prizes for guessing who gets to play the roles of Hitler and Mussolini.

These so-called 'peace terms' were foisted upon Israel by the Bush administration, cornered by a salacious antisemitic Western Press and a supine terrorist-loving UN. Israel has become their sacrificial lamb. All that has happened is the sparing of a terrorist outfit for another day and another time to attack Israel with new and more terrifying weapons. This will be the price of Western expediency - the second Holocaust.

Had Churchill been around today, he would have been 132 years old, and bristling at this repeat of Munich. He would have certainly been reminded of these words which he used to greet Chamberlain on his return to the Commons:

"We have sustained "a total and unmitigated defeat." There has been "gross neglect and deficiency in our defences." We were weighed in the balance and found wanting."

Yes, we were certainly weighed in the balance and found wanting. And its repercussions could be every bit as bad as the repercussions of Munich. Ahmadinejad and the Islamic terrorists now know how shallow we have become. They know that we won't look after our own. They see us as a ripe cherry ready for plucking, and our civilization ready to be consigned to that great dustbin of history, alongside the Byzantine Empire. They know that what they demand, they'll get just like a spoilt child. Likewise, our leaders are doing us, and themselves no service by parrotting the "Islam is a religion of peace" mantra, instead of facing up to the truth Winston Churchill or John Quincy Adams-style like “The religion of Islam above all others was founded upon the sword … Moreover it provides incentives to slaughter, and in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men – filled with a wild and merciless fanaticism” or "The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force", and telling it as it is - that it is indeed a demanding and intolerant faith of barbarianism, backwardness, misogyny and prejudice which believes that infidels should be put to the sword if they refuse to convert to Islam. Its time Muslims were held accountable for what they do and held to the same standard as what we hold ourselves here in the West, and stopped this patronising and damaging attitude of "they don't know what they're doing" and "we must have done something wrong to deserve atrocities like 911." Dr Andrew Bostom's book "The Legacy of Jihad" ought to be required reading amongst every Western President, Chancellor and Prime Minister as a warning of what their citizens can expect should Islamism triumph.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at August 14, 2006 1:32 PM

But I thought Iran only sought nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. That's what they told us.

=====Only dhimmicrats, moonbats and Move on .org types truly believe.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at August 14, 2006 1:37 PM

Witness: Gunmen kidnap two Fox News journalists in Gaza (Reuters) http://www.haaretz.com/

Yup, the quote exactly -- and perhaps another kidnapping or two will start another conflagration forcing Israel to act willingly or not, providing another pretext for Hizbolla and Iran to "defend themselves."

Israel's surrender to Hizbolla through the UN mandated "cease-fire" has only embolden them making the world a decidedly more dangerous place to live.

In anycase, I'll bet these journalists will be released unharmed (that's usually what happens)-- but I don't think we are going to see those poor Israeli soldiers again who will be forgotten in about two weeks.

Remember their names? ... I thought not.

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 1:38 PM

That pretty much sums up our problem. The muslims have no fear of us.
And as long as the muslims don't FEAR us we are losing.
Just the opposite in fact:
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005718.htm
No wonder the muslims are confident of their victory over us. We're surrendering.
WHEN a muslim tries to (or successfully does) smuggle a bomb on an airliner in ''a body cavity'' guess who's going to get punished for it?
Abdul Mohammed? NO.
A little girl? YES...

Posted by: Your Image Here at August 14, 2006 1:48 PM

I fear those two Israeli soldiers are long dead. They may have been killed within the first week, who knows.

You know it,my prayers for them and their families.is Isreal gunna still uphold the truce,when they only get back their bodies?

Posted by: Patriot8 at August 14, 2006 1:50 PM

White House Fears Syria, Iran Will Re-Arm Hizbullah
20:34 Aug 14, '06 / 20 Av 5766

(IsraelNN.com) The Bush administration is worried that security in northern Lebanon is not stight enough to prevent Iran and Syria from re-arming Hizbullah terrorists. "I think, in part, it will require placing on the northern border of Lebanon somebody who is capable of handling security in such a way as to intercept, interrupt and, with any luck, stop the transport into Lebanon of arms from Iran and Syria," White House spokesman Tony Snow told reporters.

Israel repeatedly bombed transport routes and bridges connecting Syria and Lebanon in an effort to slow down a constant transfer of weapons to Hizbullah during the war on northern Israel. The United Nations Security Council cease fire resolution did not mention the northern border

( Then Condi make such a big deal about the cease fire...Why are waiting for Islam to strike?.....Maybe Islam is right...we are dumb.

Posted by: storagemanager at August 14, 2006 2:01 PM

Perhaps the remnants of the once great Persian empire will flourish beneath the earth as something akin to Morlocks. I would think Israel's ballistic sub RETALIATORY capabilities are immune to world "opinion."

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott at August 14, 2006 2:05 PM

the ummahs were warning muslims in Europe to get out if at all possible, and if not, then to stock up on bottled water, canned goods and to stay inside and pray day and night to allah for their very survival.

So far, they've pull the same stunt with New York, Chicago, and last week -- Haifa.

In war, there is always misinformation as well as information.

Islam wants to rule the world and Europe. If they turn it into a smoldering heap of radioactive debris, there wouldn't be much to rule over.

I have talked to a couple of my friends here about August the 22nd and obviously they know nothing about it.

I have similar experiences; I mentioned over the weekend to some trusted individuals and they started squirming in their chairs as their eyes darted about the room. They wanted to call me a bigot or a racists but they didn't -- but I know they thought it.

Actually, the conversation we are going to have on August 23rd, is why didn't anything happen on the 22nd -- "what does it mean?" we will say.

Speculation will be that next August 22nd "it will be for sure," but within a week -- it will all be forgotten.

Maybe I'm wrong -- you may tell me I'm wrong on August 23rd if something like a nuke disaster happens; by honestly, I think the mad man is just trying to scare everyone.

I'm calling his bluff!

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 2:29 PM

So why hasn't M15 or the CIA taken this yo-yo out if he was really going to do something nuts and destroy tens of millions of Europeans?

(a few hundred -- they might look the other way; a few thousand -- they will do a round up as we have seen; but a few million -- they may take out a foreign leader)

Answer: they don't think he's going to do anything either, because if they did believe him, I don't think we would hear from him at all; ever again!

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 2:39 PM

One day soon we will awake to see a mushroom cloud over Israel, and all the 'transformational diplomacy' in the world cannot keep it from happening. The entire Western leadership has become emasculated in the face of islamic radicalism, and believes that the growing threat to our civilization can be removed without the use of force -- a cowardly position at best. The lessons of history will have to be taught again at the expense of more innocent lives. †

Posted by: Kreuzueber Halbmond at August 14, 2006 2:43 PM

americaningermany,

I know just how you feel. My friends and relatives have been calling me obsessed, fanatical, and nuttier than squirrel poop as well. I had to pick one of them up at the airport last Thursday, the day the new regulations went into effect, delaying her flight and forcing her to dump her carry-on bottle of Mondavi.

"Did you hear about the bomb plot?" she asked.

"Of course, I'm a fanatic! Remember?"

"Whatever did we do to make them hate us so?"

Ah, the rhetorical question of the millenium. So I educated her on the ride home about how it matters not what we've done, but only what we need yet to do. And I think she gets it, now that she's out $100 American for the wine.

So keep on repeating yourself ad nauseum, american. Lord knows we can't really say it often enough.

Regards,

HAID

Posted by: Haid Dasalami at August 14, 2006 2:45 PM

I know man, I had better things to do than fight jihad.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at August 14, 2006 12:01 PM

.... and why should we have to worry about Jihad, if our elected officials, starting with Commander-in-chief, Sec. of state did their job, instead of holding hands with Wahabi killers and making deals with terrorists, knowing they won't be kept, putting our friends in Israel at a risk? Oh.. but she did not know how this would work out. I see... Guess we will just have to kill ourselves and chalk it up to 'stupidity'. Nice!

Posted by: Alert at August 14, 2006 2:51 PM

One day soon we will awake to see a mushroom cloud over Israel, and all the 'transformational diplomacy' in the world cannot keep it from happening.

No doubt; but it won't be this August 22nd.

The entire Western leadership has become emasculated in the face of islamic radicalism, and believes that the growing threat to our civilization can be removed without the use of force -- a cowardly position at best.

I agree in principle; but the Western leaders imagine that they are somehow immune and that only the little people have to be troubled by suicide murders. Inside their imaginary gated communities they will sip tea and idle banter thinking to share power among themselves.

The lessons of history will have to be taught again at the expense of more innocent lives. †

It's always the young men who die in the old men's war.

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 2:53 PM

DEBKAfile: Syrian president Bashar Assad: They said peace was the only way but now, after seeing how Hizballah fought, I see an option.

http://www.debka.com

No doubt, they will be part of the reason there will one day be a mushroom cloud spirling upwards, but I don't think the time is now.

If it is, what can be gained by losing sleep over it? If the leaders aren't will to stand up to these wannabe killings -- what can the people do?

------------------------------------------------

Pardon my gaff; slow server.

"Inside their imaginary gated communities they will sip tea and idle banter thinking to share power among themselves."

should have read:

"Inside their imaginary gated communities they will sip tea and exchange idle banter thinking to share power among themselves."

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 3:07 PM

One of the captured journalists was Steve Centeni from FOX News. He's a pretty balanced guy in his coverage. Yes, most of the captured journalists have been released but you never know. Remember Al Quada is now active in Gaza, it's growing, billboards ect, so they may make a statement with him. I've watched him report from a crowded street in Gaza on tv and it kind of made me nervous for him.

Posted by: biorabbi at August 14, 2006 3:13 PM

One of the captured journalists was Steve Centeni from FOX News. He's a pretty balanced guy in his coverage. Yes, most of the captured journalists have been released but you never know. Remember Al Quada is now active in Gaza, it's growing, billboards ect, so they may make a statement with him. I've watched him report from a crowded street in Gaza on tv and it kind of made me nervous for him.

Posted by: biorabbi at August 14, 2006 3:14 PM

Alert - smart, sophisticated, good societies have been destroyed or irreparably damaged in the past. Why assume the U.S. and the rest of the free world is somehow 'different' from all the dead ones past?

I for one will not go quietly into the night. I'm not willing to let the email messages I get from my Israeli friend become another collection like 'The Diary of Anne Frank'.

If my politicians are too stupid to see reality I will do everything I can to change out the politicians. I will write and email and speak to everyone who will listen and print me to get the warning out. People are the answer. I don't care to even try and convince muslims or strengthen and support moderates and all that worthless effort.

We are in the beginnings of the next 'good war'... a chapter four in the battle against all the forms of totalitarianism. Again it will be the nexus of English-speaking countries arrayed against those of the dark ages.

I'm not willing to sit idly by while my world goes up. I'm doing everything I can, including trying to get a literary agent for a novel I've written which is critical of Islam and lays blame at the base of the kaa'ba in Mecca. I've been rejected by around 30 - 40 agents so far. I'll keep going and will approach publishers directly and then I'll just publish the damned thing myself through lulu.com like DC Watson has done. I'm giving it until December - then I'll go the self-publishing route.

I'm doing what I can to get the word out to english-speaking persons in the 'house of war'... that's all I can do for now. I'll keep it up because I know that if enough people understand then we will be able to see the nature of the war we're in, we'll identify the base of the enemy ( islam ) and we'll be able to name the enemy and begin to fight it with every means at our disposal.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at August 14, 2006 3:17 PM

The west has completely missing the second chance against the Islamofacism in the recently war in Lebanon. Our forefront, Israel, has been breached. There won't be an alliance like that of the WWII. During the WWII, Russia was on our side, and China was primitive. Nuclear possesion was only on our hand. Today Russia, China, France, are against us; nuclear weapons are in the hands of savage muslims. Our fall back is only on nuclear war, in which there will be an extermination of nations, namely Iran. However, it will not stop there--there will be Russia and China who will side with muslims-- as it is obvious how they are against just about any US foreign policy.

If you are in Europe when nuclear out break takes place, the US will drop a antimatter bomb (whitch I believe is still kept as a secrete weapon against nuclear weapons) on Iran. That will wipe out entire Iran, but will not negate the nuclear attacks on US from North Korea and China.

Regardless, there will be no retreat wherever we are.

The Iranian or Chinese nuclear bombs aren't as powerfull as those of the US or France, but the effect will be as bad as those in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where imprints of vaporized human body were left on molten rocks. Those whose survived, were in slow painful death. Some died after a year.

Our nuclear bombs are several times more powerful than those of the East or Middle East. An antimatter bombs are 35 time more powerfull than the nuclear or perhap more.

If this actually happen soon, praying for quick death is the only hope we have. Bless are those who die; sad for those who survive.

Posted by: ssa at August 14, 2006 3:18 PM

get a literary agent for a novel I've written which is ...

At least one person is planning on the future -- and if book sales are expected, someone has to be around to buy them;

so, here's to the future!

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 3:29 PM

This is a good time to mention that Khomeini was helped to take over Iran by America's very own Zbigniew Brzezinski. It was all done in the name of civil liberties and human rights. Former US attorney general Ramsey Clark was then chairman of the National Council of the ACLU [american civil liberties union], and he too was all in favor of khomeini, in the name of civil liberties of course.

Jiminy Cricket was US president at the time, serving as Zbig's nominal leader. Jiminy continues in the path marked out by Zbig years ago with his frequent peregrinations to succor Islamist tyrants and mass murderers. Zbig was interviewed in LeMonde after 9-11 and explained that he had no regrets for helping build up Muslim fanatics in Afghanistan, like bin Laden.

Posted by: Eliyahu at August 14, 2006 3:33 PM

Witness... I started it three years ago and then realized I didn't understand the motivation of jihadis... now I understand. In my research I found out about this place ( jihadwatch.org )and I'd like to thank Robert, Hugh, other members of the support staff and all the posters out there for helping me understand. Now that I'm forewarned I'd like to fore arm people out ther by sharing what I've found out. It's the only way out of the danger we're in, as far as I can see. The answer rests in the people themselves ( as it usually does ).

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at August 14, 2006 3:33 PM

Zbig was interviewed in LeMonde after 9-11 and explained that he had no regrets for helping build up Muslim fanatics in Afghanistan, like bin Laden.

Deport him too -- to Sudan! Forget Poland Zig; you're a man of the world!

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 3:42 PM

"Funny I am constantly reminded of the 'Lord of the Rings.' When I think of Muslims I think of Orcs. How crazy is that?"
-americaningermany

And many of us are held up in our own Minas Tirith(following it's decline) and are facing the coming onslaught!

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott at August 14, 2006 3:51 PM

I was from an Islamic country, but I am in a free country now. That's as detail you can get. The muslim will kill anyone they can find in this room. Keep you info close to your chess.

We, including our western leader, know we are helpless, but we are working with level head to deal with our real threat.

No one can deny that we need a strong leader in the west who can unit the entire west because we currently so divided, one against another.

This helplessnes is not exegerated. Yesterday, in Israel, there was a cry of despondence in the government; someone said, "Let the devil rein."

Y

Posted by: ssa at August 14, 2006 3:52 PM

Saturday, April 15, 2006
Ahmadinejad Dirty?
IRAN: TEXT MESSAGE TELLS PRESIDENT HE SHOULD WASH MORE

Tehran, 14 April (AKI) - Iran's hardline president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has apparently been incensed by an anonymous text message suggesting he does not wash enough. Ahmadinejad has taken legal action over the offending text, has fired the president of a phone company and has had four people arrested and accused of colluding with the Israeli foreign intelligence service, Mossad, the anti-government website Rooz Online reports.

Poking fun at the president, the regime's senior figures and its policies, has reportedly become a national pastime in Iran. The Iranian authorities are paying particular attention to jokes comparing Iran's nuclear programme with sex.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of the Islamic Republic of Iran (piss be upon him).
AKA
Madman ArmageddonJihad
Madmouth I'm-a-damn-nutjob

Posted by: WildandCrzyGuy at August 14, 2006 3:53 PM

Rowane - it sounds like SSA is a member of the EU and works for the UN...

The idea that we can't 'deal with' North Korea or Iran leads me to believe SSA is an alias for John Kerry or something. SSA ? you a Massachusetts Senator or something?

Of course we can deal with Iran and North Korea. The North Koreans are too weak from hunger to fight as a people and the army might be tough, but come on? North Korea intimidating the rest of the world. Ask China ( behind closed doors ) to make a decision. You really think they want to pick Kim Jong Il over all the humming factories and U.S. ports they manage? No way.

Iran? Remember they were fighting Saddam for 8 years to no good end. This time with Iran, we go in, do the same thing militarily but we round up the mullahs, imams, ayatollahs and the town crier and we remove those suckers from power. Let all the heroin addicts run the country for a change.

Tear up their ability to mount counter attacks... destroy offensive capabilities and the leave.... let them deal with the consequences of supporting jihad.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at August 14, 2006 3:54 PM

I am for Bush, who is honest christian, who can speak for the USA, John Bolton who kick UN butt. Unlike Kerry who wants to be loved by the UN and be popular among other nations.

There is a reason, why Bush is wobly at this time, that some in our military suspect Iran already possess nuclease war heads, as it shakes its fist.

I am a strong christian who are not as you think a coward. I am in the military.

As a rule, do not under estimate you foe.

Denial is not a stratergy.

One must be interlectually honest with fact, brave enought to die for freedom cause, clear headed enought to stare the enimy in his eye.

I read many, many books written by Wiston Churchill. I am by no mean as ignorant as those who live in the comfort behind the western military power.

Mr, plaque, you sound like a naive, foolish youth.

Posted by: ssa at August 14, 2006 4:12 PM

When the North Korean tested their new missiles on our fourth of July, the IranianS were there.

What can prevent the North Korean selling the Nuclear technology to an Oil rich customer as the North Korean, who is so hungry for the lack of resource?

Zip Zero.

Why would Iran need to wait to develope nuclear war head when they can only buy from a hungry manufacturer, North Korea?

It can be use on demand.

Why doest Iran want to possess nuclear knowledge?

ISLAMIC PRIDE!

Posted by: ssa at August 14, 2006 4:28 PM

ssa,
What happened? You mentioned where you were from on another thread. Why the deception?
Do you think that western military power comes from thin air? This is our jungle and we are the tigers that live in it. We are ready and waiting for them.
You are Military? Here are two suggestions, when you encounter the enemy “kill him”, do not clear you head and stare him down. Force the enemy to die for his cause.

Posted by: tgusa at August 14, 2006 4:34 PM

{Fingers on both temples....eyes tightly shut)...

I see a big orange mushroom cloud over Tehran and Damascus in the not so distant future.

Even if the warmonger was to strike first, he would QUICKLY find himself sharing barbecue pork on a stick with the devil.

Posted by: The Goobs at August 14, 2006 4:46 PM

John Bolton is our current Embassador to the UN.

Ehud Olmert, Amir Perest, and Pzipy Livni's are Israel leader who gave in to the UN cease fire. It's not I to be blamed.

I feel for you. May God comfort you.

Since honesty is condered a joke, I will not be in this room ever again.

Fairwell to all.

Posted by: ssa at August 14, 2006 4:51 PM

>>>Funny, I am constantly reminded of "The Lord of the Rings". When I think of muslims I think of Orcs. How crazy is that?>>>

They are more like the BORG.

Posted by: solsticewitch13 at August 14, 2006 4:58 PM

SSA - my apologies if I offended you. I was just trying to have a little fun by accusing you of being a Massachusetts Senator. I realize that was too much of an insult.

Also, I don't like the idea that it's too late to do anything about things. That runs contrary to the history of my nation and sounds too much like 'inshallah' fatalism for me to let go without comment. It's not too late for anything, sir. I realize taking out the regimes of Iran and North Korea will be expensive but it will cost more in the future.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at August 14, 2006 5:07 PM

Yes, Islam is indeed the BORG of religions.
"Resistance is futile.You will be assimilated."

They lack the technical sophistication of the Borg, but not the single mindedness. Both are pure evil, but Islam exists in the real world.

The Star Trek gang defeated the Borg, but we have yet to decide what to do with Islam. Something has to be done and soon.

Posted by: Muzzl'em at August 14, 2006 5:09 PM

jeeeeez, any more Hollywood comparisons?? (..it speaks of quality loss)

Posted by: cosmicAvenger at August 14, 2006 5:12 PM

So far the people , mostly friends and family, I've said anything about August 22nd give me "that look" you know the one that really means " aren't we getting a little bit paranoid now?"

So now everything i'm doing to get a little prepared (bought a few things - generator , extra food ,water, ect.)
I just been telling my wife i'm doing it because hurricane season and since we live in lower Louisiana and were here when Katrina hit New Orleans but not us she just say's thats good to do.

I REALLY hope nothing happens Aug 22nd but better safe than sarry

Posted by: old-dude at August 14, 2006 5:17 PM

old-dude.......good for you...dont forget weapons and ammo...first aid kit.

Posted by: storagemanager at August 14, 2006 5:19 PM

SSA- Go ahead and stay around. We all have important things to fight against, mainly jihad and da'wa. All hands on board are needed: young and old; liberal and conservative; college professors and high school janitors. Petty differences should not be allowed to get in the way of our objective.

You are right about Americaningermany being a young and/or just immature; otherwise he would focus on your arguments and not your spelling. You need to show your maturity by ignoring his ass.

Posted by: former liberal WF at August 14, 2006 5:26 PM

Mr. Plaque,aka A_Plague_on_Both_Houses
Do not feel bad, ssa has pulled that “I’m leaving” stuff before. He’ll be back. Unfortunately everything he says is gloom and doom. I have to wonder what he really is.

Isn’t it too bad there aren’t any good recent movies coming out of hollyweird to use as comparisons? How’s a cross between The Thing and The Blob sound?

Posted by: tgusa at August 14, 2006 5:31 PM

former liberal WF - SSA commented about me as sounding like a naive youth. I don't think it's true, but maybe North Korea could really beat the United States. I'd like to think that 41 is young, but I don't think that's true either because that would be naive...

I was being a little too flippant for SSA's taste and I apologize. You're right former liberal WF - we need everyone. I will stop trying to be entertaining at someone else's expense.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at August 14, 2006 5:31 PM

This is all getting really scary and I wish that someone here where I live would actually acknowledge the danger!!!

Hi americaningermany,
I know exactly how you feel. Perhaps you would like to join us in the commentary section of
http://myblog.de/politicallyincorrect ?

I would be very happy to meet you there. Yesterday we talked about opening a forums (perhaps with a non-public section) and I think that's a good idea. I'll do it within the next days.

We are so few. We should know each other - at least via internet and email.

Posted by: Eisvogel at August 14, 2006 5:36 PM

tgusa - thanks for the support.

For other Hollyweird analogies -- how about 'The Unforgiven' from a while back?

The sheriff of Big Whiskey and all his buddies as the fascist Islamic countries and thugs organizations within dar al-Islam.

The whores from the saloon who could get no justice as those mistreated by sharia and the Islamic system.

The western nations as William Money, the reformed boozer and cold-blooded killing machine from Missouri ( who dynamited the train in '67, killing men, women & children) who hears that they tortured his friend Ned and beat him to death... and displayed his body out front of the saloon as a warning to other whores and assassins.

When William Money rode out of town in the rain the people left alive could have shot him. They were afraid... Money said, "Don't cut up nor otherwise harm no whores. Or I'll come back and kill every one of you."

That's what it's gonna take with these people. Big Whiskey is dar al-Islam.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at August 14, 2006 5:42 PM

An International Peace Force?
Posted by Allen Roth on August 14, 2006 at 11:56 AM Print
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One Jerusalem has it on good authority that Lebanon is actively trying to recruit a Muslim dominant "peace force". Their countries of preference are Malaysia, Indonesia, and Pakistan.

Two out of three have supplied centrifuges for Iran's nuclear project.

For another comparison of the Olmert and Netanyahu speeches on the future of Israel read here.
http://www.onejerusalem.org/blog/archives/2006/08/an_internationa.asp

Posted by: storagemanager at August 14, 2006 5:53 PM

I continually hear people speak of current events reminding them of 1938, but there's a huge difference between Hitler's Germany and many-headed hydra of Islamic jihad. Hitler didn't attack (only threatened to do so) until September of 1939. The hellish demon of Islamic Jihad has been on the march for decades now.

At least Neville Chamberlain knew what needed to be done when evil invaded its neighbor. He sided with Churchill to begin forthright hostilities against Hitler and HIS jihad against Western Civilization. The civilized world has YET to even acknowledge that a war against freedom and civil liberty even exists!

Paris is burning, London has been occupied, Washington DC has been marched upon, and the "defenders of democracy and freedom" are asleep.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at August 14, 2006 6:11 PM

Both Sean Hannity and Larry Elder understand this cease fire was a win for Islam...Larry Elder said today Iran will have to be dealt with sooner or later...why wait on them?....Last week Walid Shoebat was on Larry Elders radio show....Larry said to Walid....What should we do about Iran.....Shoebat...Nuke them.....Elder...Nuke Iran?......Shoebat...it is going to come to that anyway.....Islam is out to destroy the West.....It is time to Wake now.

Posted by: storagemanager at August 14, 2006 6:26 PM

>>>"Resistance is futile.You will be assimilated."

They lack the technical sophistication of the Borg, but not the single mindedness. Both are pure evil, but Islam exists in the real world.

The Star Trek gang defeated the Borg, but we have yet to decide what to do with Islam. Something has to be done and soon.

Posted by: Muzzl'em
>>>>>

I don't think having technical sophistication really matters in this conflict. Look what the cave and tent dwellers have done to our world so far.

Posted by: solsticewitch13 at August 14, 2006 6:33 PM

Iran launches cartoon exhibition on Holocaust

An exhibition of more than 200 cartoons about the Holocaust opened Monday as Iran's response to last year's Muslim outrage over a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad in a Danish newspaper. (AP) .......On the same day as the cease fire...Iran is ready to rumble..

Posted by: storagemanager at August 14, 2006 6:36 PM

Iran issued a stark warning on Sunday that it would change its nuclear policy for the worse if the West continued to apply pressure on it to abandon uranium enrichment.

In other words, 'if you don't stop pressuring us, we'll wage nuclear jihad--which we were going to do anyway.'

Iran purchased at least some of their nuclear technology and designs from A.Q. Khan (the Pakistani who stole nuclear secrets from the Europeans back in the 1970s). That technology is directed toward one purpose only, namely, for nuclear weapons.

“Naturally, if Europe goes down the wrong path, we will definitely change our path and act proportionately”,

Change path? Right. These are the same guys who say they have drawn up plans for the destruction of "Anglo-Saxon civilization".

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2006 6:50 PM

Fellow JW members,
I found this website this morning that really got my attention:
http://politicsofcp.blogspot.com/2006/08/aliville-another-islamist-village-in.html
This site was found via Gates of Vienna weblog.

To the point, I live in SE Georgia, USA about 25 miles as the crow flies from a large nuclear power station and not to much further away, a large military base. The subject of the 1st blog is about 'new communities' around the USA with 'new Islamic residents'.
My house with many glass doors and windows face due south toward the power station (my bad). My wife's survival plan slightly different from mine is to rush outside and greet our Lord. I have been otherwise stocking up before having to rush to greet the glow.
The satellite images are frightening.
Does anyone else know of the 'communities?
Apparently there are many of these around the country.
Are any of our local, state, or federal police agencies watching these new 'citizens'?
Forunately our flat terrain makes this new town, Aliville, accessible via 4-wheelers.
I am checking with two local agencies as well as the State Patrol.
Anybody out there with new neighbors?????

Posted by: GA_boy at August 14, 2006 7:21 PM

Look on the bright side.

In Lebanon, many Christians and Druse and Sunni Arabs and even some Shi'a, do not want a repetition of the past few weeks, and know that if they, or some greater power, does not disarm or constrain Hezbollah, a repetition of the past few weeks, except this time without the scrupulosity that the Israelis exhibited before, and certainly without the giving of constant forewarnings, will be inevitable. Lebanon cannot be rebuilt with that threat hanging over it. So it is up to those Christians, those Druse, those Sunnis, and even some among those Shi'a, to destroy the Stormtroopers -- for Hezbollah was at that stage, round about 1936 or 1937 -- in its development, in its power. There is still time to stop it and, furthermore, as the old button put it so succinctly, to Stop Hitler. Hitler in this case is represented by Ahmadinejad as a representative of the Islamic Rebublic of Iran, which in its views of the Infidels is not different from that of many Sunnis as well. But though there is agreement on how Infidels are to be treated, there is no agreement within Islam on how Sunnis and Shi'a should share -- or fail to share -- power and money and glory, nor any agreement on which represents the "true" Islam.

Like the twelve daughters of the king in the fairy tale, "each more beautiful than the next," when it comes to Sunnis and Shi'a, "each -- for Infidels-- is more hideous than the next." This country, or that leader, or that regime, might for the moment be the main threat in the Islamic world, or appear to be, but in the end, the threat to Infidels is -- Islam itself. Every conceivable opportunity that arises for Sunnis and Shi'a to damage each other must be exploited to the fullest. Forget "freedom." Forget "democracy." In Iraq there is a war -- a war for political and economic power, a war over the refusal of the Sunnis to acquiesce in their loss of power, a refusal of the Shi'a not to press their every advantage. So be it. Let that war continue, and let its tentacles spread everywhere in the Camp of Islam -- in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, in Pakistan and Yemen, in Kuwait and Lebanon.

One more good thing. Olmert has been severely wounded. Reality has broken in, or is breaking in, among too many Israelis who will bleakly realize that the situation in Lebanon, or in Gaza, are not temporary setbacks but expressions of permanent hostility toward Israel. It will never end. It can never end. The power however to constrain those who would conduct Jihad does exist, and can be used, and not merely, or not mainly, through the application of military force. A thousand ways exist to weaken the
Camp of Islam. Olmert cannot now proceed with the suicidal policy of giving up even more territory, for it is obvious that the "West Bank" would inevitably, without question, if not right away than in five years, or ten, or fifteeny, or twenty, be a place bristling with Arab and Muslim arms, volunteers, hideouts for weapons. On the possession of that territory Israel's future survival depends. Forget the nonsense about "two tiny peoples" and the recently-invented "Palestinian people." Forget the nonesense about Israel having to choose between being "Jewish" in character and being "democratic." Israel cannot survive without total control, military and civilian, of the "West Bank," of the Judean heights, of the invasion routes, of the aquifers, of everything.

There are stil those who suffer from permanent political dementia in Israel. Forget them, mock them, hound them, put them in permanent Coventry. The assorted Peace-Now and Meretz party people, some of whom helped create the hysteria that led to the retreat from Lebanon in the first place, and then to the ignoring, for six years, of what Hezbollah was doing, and doing, have themselves suffered, some of them, in ways quite personal, for this war that was both necessary, given that earlier withdrawal, and unnecessary, given that the earlier withdrawal should not have occurred, and that Israel should long ago have understood what, sooner or later, will happen in any territory from which it withdraws or gives up control.

In that sense, the failure to achieve what are largely unachievable aims -- though the Israeli military accomplished a fantastic amount, no thanks to Olmert or Peretz, much less to the impossible, crazed Israeli left -- will actually result in a victory. A victory, in Israel, for common sense, and for the understanding of what Islam is all about, and why the war against Israel can be prevented, but the impulse to wage war, using every instrument available, will last as long as the Qur'an, the Hadith, and the Sira.

It is the same lesson that the rest of the Western world will have to learn. Will it learn that lesson sooner, because of the observable naivete and mistakes of the Israelis, or is the learning curve intolerably flat everywhere, and will only begin to rise once England, or France, or Spain, begins to experience violence, and domestic unrest, equivalent in some way to what the Israelis have experenced over many decades, and especially over the last month, when nearly twice as many missiles rained down on Israel as the total number of V-2 rockets that rained down on England during World War II.

Posted by: Hugh at August 14, 2006 7:38 PM

Bush said Monday that Hezbollah guerillas suffered a defeat at the hands of Israel in their monthlong Mideast war..

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/14/D8JGDGBO0.html

Shut up George, you're high on crack or something; get sober -- its embarassing!

One more good thing. Olmert has been severely wounded. Reality has broken in, or is breaking in, among too many Israelis who will bleakly realize that the situation in Lebanon, or in Gaza, are not temporary setbacks but expressions of permanent hostility toward Israel.

Sure, but then you have goof balls like George that are just "high on life" and wouldn't know reality if it gave him a good swift kick in the [expletive deleted]!

Posted by: witness at August 14, 2006 7:51 PM

It's hard to believe that this little short fuck is what is causing all the concern. LOL. Have a good laugh.

what a joke

In this photo, he looks like he belongs in the Special Olympics.

Madhat with his pants up to his chest

Posted by: August22 at August 14, 2006 8:17 PM

Holocaust cartoons go on display in Iran

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at August 14, 2006 8:56 PM

I just sent an e-mail to my daughter with a recommendation for her to get some potassium iodine. I have a two year old grandson.

http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa121101a.htm

I grew up in the middle of a long, drawn out nuclear stand-off with atomic bomb drills in school.

Posted by: Pelayo at August 14, 2006 9:13 PM

Let us never forget just who these prisoners in Israel are (the ones Hizbollah demanded in an exchange). They include sadistic bastards like the Muslim Samir Kuntar. They are in prison because that is the best place for them to be.
http://www.geocities.com/myjoy18/abbas.htm

Posted by: EnglishBlondie at August 14, 2006 9:35 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samir_Kuntar

Posted by: EnglishBlondie at August 14, 2006 9:37 PM

"It's hard to believe that this little short fuck is what is causing all the concern. LOL. Have a good laugh.

what a joke

In this photo, he looks like he belongs in the Special Olympics. "

Ever had a manager who sufferend from 'short man syndrome'? Apologies to the many nice short men out there, but the characteristics of aggression, will to dominate and cruelty were definitely more marked in the short male managers than the taller ones. I guess growing up to feel physically 'short-changed' means you either get over it and develop your wonderful personality and fabulous (though shortish) physique, or you get bitter and twisted.

Hitler was short, too.

So basically, the world will be blown to smithereens because Ahmadinejad didn't have enough HGH as a kid!

Posted by: Lili at August 15, 2006 3:06 AM

Well, I also know lovely short people of both genders. Nice short men just get a life and develop charm!

But the short men who desperately want and then abuse power do seem to have that special chip on their shoulder...

Posted by: Lili at August 15, 2006 6:10 AM