Wow, the guy sounds almost moderate here:

"In Indonesia I'm also trying to make the Sharia become the official law of the country, as the majority of Indonesian people are Islamic people.
That would be fair, but in Australia, it's not, because Islam is in minority. But I would suggest in Australia that Muslims should practice Sharia as much as they can, because it's an obligation."

I am pretending sarcasm here. For these snakes lying is their natural language.

He explains this Sharia he is encouraging Muslims to practice means:

"For instance, for stealing, their hands should be cut off, whether or not the thief is a Muslim. "

Then we should start cutting off the hands of a lot of Islamists because they are stealing global peace and so much more from all of us.

Of "homosexuals and adulterers" he says they should be stoned. I think that is to death. That is what stoning usually means.

This is odd because so many homosexuals support Islamists and their right to want to kill them. They do this by covering up their words and deeds and representing them to the world as something else entirely.

In "V for Vengeance" a favorite movie of Leftists, the totalitarian Britain of the future is Christian based... and one of the heroes, a homosexual man, has a secret room... where he hides one of the most banned books of all -- the Koran.

In one scene he kisses it and speaks of how beautiful it is.

Then, he later effectively dies for it.

That is the Leftist mold for how Leftists should support Islam.

Quite a distance from the reality of the situation.

Posted by: NovaRocketMan at August 30, 2006 1:38 AM

Multicultists will simply say that he's not a true Muslim and that he completely misunderstands Islam. Problem solved.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at August 30, 2006 2:04 AM

The Australian government needs to tighten their regulations, and not allow this monster in their country, or any other Western country. let him spread his violence on his own kind. if he makes it to the WEst, give him old fashioned "Western Justice" put him on a horse, and hang the monster, and let his body for the crows.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at August 30, 2006 2:25 AM

Good interview - the right questions asked and reasonably honest answers given. We need this information out there. Then Aussies will know what Howard is talking about when he says 'no sharia!'

Posted by: Lili at August 30, 2006 2:35 AM

I would greatly support allowing Bashir to visit my country.

Then perhaps he could become a guest of our prison system for the remainder of his natural life and pay for the 2002 Bali bombing. Something Indonesia patently failed to do.

That aside, I could never see him being permitted to visit Australia. The Government (and public) simply wouldn't have it.

As to his dream of a world under Sharia 'jurisprudence' - if he and his fellow adherents wish to practice seventh century backwardness, then off to Iran with him...

Posted by: markkemp at August 30, 2006 2:48 AM

Perhaps a debate can be set between Cardinal Pell and Bashir.

I think the general public would benefit from such an exchange.

Posted by: PRCS at August 30, 2006 2:52 AM

Slightly off-topic, is it true that the Quran somewhere says silence is equivalent to agreement?

So said Youssef Ibrahim in an article I saw in the August 25 New York Sun. He was criticizing European Muslims for their silence in the face of Islamic terror, and suggesting this was tantamount to agreement.

So which verse in the Quran or tradition was Ibrahim referring to when he said the Quran says silence is equivalent to agreement?

Anybody know?

Posted by: traeh at August 30, 2006 3:10 AM

Maybe this?

Bukhari- Narrated 'Aisha: I asked the Prophet, "O Allah's Apostle! Should the women be asked for their consent to their marriage?" He said, "Yes." I said, "A virgin, if asked, feels shy and keeps quiet." He said, "Her silence means her consent." (Book #85, Hadith #79)

Posted by: Borg at August 30, 2006 3:56 AM

Or this?

- Mus'ab b. Sa'd reported on the authority of his father. I was ailing. I sent message to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) saying: Permit me to give away my property as I like. He refused. I (again) said: (Permit me) to give away half. He (again refused). I (again said): Then one-third. He (the Holy Prophet) observed silence after (I had asked permission to give away) one-third. He (the narrater) said: It was then that endowment of one-third became permissible. (Muslim - Book #013, Hadith #3994)

Posted by: Borg at August 30, 2006 4:39 AM

The government may as well grant him entry. It has already allowed entry to a growing list of people who are now classified as being immiscible people. Now the government is forced to have the various agencies watch these people at great cost to the Australian taxpayer.

We have already seen Sharia law established by stealth in Australia. We have 'women only' swimming days at council pools which comports nicely with the muslim custom of keeping the sexes separated. We have 'men only' swimming days in Victoria again comporting with muslim customs. We have banks asking motor bike riders to remove their helmets before entering the bank but no sticker asking muslim women to take off the head covering. A court case has recently concluded which relied on the well established traditions of 'innocent until proven guilty' and all the ancient traditions of UK law. The judge in the case wanted a muslim male to attest to the veracity of his evidence by swearing on the Qur'an. A FEMALE court clerk was about to do the swearing in but the judge was heard to say, sotto voce, that the swearing in should be done by a male. The ancient traditions of UK law refusing to allow a female to administer the oath to a male using the Qur'an...where might that be in the UK common law or the rules of the court.

There are plenty of other cases of sharia by stealth. Don't be fooled by Howard talking tough. He's a class A f*ckwit.

Posted by: Salad_In at August 30, 2006 4:45 AM

Muslim man goes beserk in San Francisco, runs down 14 pedestrians with an SUV and also kills another pedestrian in a Bay Area suburb, Fremont:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/29/BAGAEKRCO55.DTL

Posted by: Suzan at August 30, 2006 5:45 AM

This is a VEry important must read for all of us,the non muslims:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760

By Mr. Steyn , a syndicated columnist and theater critic for The New Criterion, in whose January issue this article appears.

Posted by: Crows&Cows at August 30, 2006 6:40 AM

The Australians know how to deal with these people, read below an email I have recently received:

"I’ve received this today from an Aussie friend.Read and decide for yourself but … it makes sense to me!! Australian Government’s stand on immigrants!Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament."If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television."I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off". "Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. USA and Canada..... ARE YOU LISTENING? Quote:IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, then learn the language! Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push but a fact because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly ocumented.It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, Because God is part of our culture. We will accept your beliefs and will not question why, all we ask is that you accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us. If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means keep your culture but do not force it on others. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this, but once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian/Canadian/US/British et al freedom, "THE RIGHT TO LEAVE." If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted. Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please. PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE, PERHAPS WE CAN CREATE A GROUND SWELL AND SEND OUR POLITICIANS THE MESSAGE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF US BELIEVE AS THE AUSSIES DO........."

I think this is priceless!

Go home Jihadi's and Dhimmi's!

Posted by: M at August 30, 2006 6:43 AM

Nice link, Suzan. Did you notice how the article took great pains not to use the words, "Islam" or "Muslim"?

This crime probaby has nothing to do with Islam. Must only be coincidental the perp was;

Young male in his 20's
named "Aziz"
targeted victims in front of a Jewish center
showed no emotion afterwards
Used SUV in a similar way as the self-confessed Muslim who attacked "the Pit".

Posted by: Xero G at August 30, 2006 6:51 AM

Traeh,

Obviously. Look how they explode virulently in tandem with breast beating when anyone dares to inspect islam and how they scheme diabolically,rejoice and exult unabashedly in tandem with their jihadi pursuits.

How many fatwas have been issued against "hijacked islam" practitioners? They stand for ingratitude and deception.Every one of them is a mobile koran.Toxic to the core.

Posted by: Crows&Cows at August 30, 2006 6:55 AM

What is the problem with him flying to Australia, apparently muslim males are no longer afraid to fly.

Posted by: Ronin at August 30, 2006 7:22 AM

In fact, he says he wants to travel to Australia to promote his harsh vision of a perfect world governed by Taliban-style Sharia law.

Do countries currently governed by Taliban-style Sharia law allow people to enter and advocate pro-Democracy style of law?

Entry to Australia should be denied!!

Posted by: exsgtbrown at August 30, 2006 7:31 AM

I advocate an Immigration Ban NOW!!

I will save M's post as a reminder that someone gets it right.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at August 30, 2006 7:37 AM

All the Prime Minister has to do is state on Television that he cannot guarantee the cretins safety, and they will not supply police protection to any of the rallies or speaking engagements. They will of cause being a civilised country and not willing to offended the sensitivity of minority groups bury the dead with full Islamic writes.

Posted by: Holger Dansker at August 30, 2006 8:44 AM

What really needs to happen is have Abu Bashit and Ibrihim Hooper have a debate. I'll be willing to bet that Hooper is just as afraid to debate someone like Bashit as he would Robert Spencer. Robert just echoes what these guys tell us with their own mouths anyhow. I feel like we should give microphones to these guys as much as we can...increase the division between islamists and the west. Once there are two definite schools of thought, it will be easier to figure out what to do with the guys who would like to have us killed.

Posted by: Tomilio at August 30, 2006 12:35 PM

AUSTRALIA HAS AN OVERSEAS SPOUSE QUOTA FIXED AT 30,000 A YEAR
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PHILIP RUDDOCK is now Australia's Attorney General.Philip Ruddock is also known as the "Walking Cadaver."
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The following is an article from the "Sydney Morning Herald"September, 17th, 1996.
"MIGRANT LAW MAY SEPARATE MARRIED COUPLES
The Government will cap and kill applications by Australians to bring their overseas spouses into Australia a move which would see long-term separations of married couples unless the Opposition allows through the Senate tough new measures to curb applications.
The Minister for Immigration, Mr Ruddock,said the draconian move,allowable under present law but never used in relation to spouses, would help curb huge increases in applications for spouses, some of which were shams, but others 'a fraud on Australians'.
Under present practise,applications for offshore spouses to come are allowed regardless of the quota set.Mr Ruddock wants to enforce his quota by a cap and queue regulation, making applicants after the qouta is reached to wait, possibly for months, until heading the queue for next years intake.
But in the face of Labor opposition in the Senate, he threatened to use his general cap and kill power to terminate applications made post-qouta.This would force Australians to apply again next year on equal terms with next year's applicants, causing indefinite separations.
Mr Ruddock's threat, which contradicts the Coalition's strong pro-family rhetoric but is part of a clampdown on migration numbers,was denounced by Labor's immigration spokeman, Mr Duncan Kerr, as social engineering.
The Opposition last week knocked off in the Senate one of several changes to regulations to tighten elegibility for 'preferential family' migration,available to spouses and aged parents.Mr Kerr told the Herald Labor would also disallow Mr Ruddock's 'cap and queue' regulation.
Mr Ruddock told the Herald that if people who had already applied were allowed in,the progam would overstep this year's 36,700 quota by about 13,000.Rather than allow an overshoot, he would use his general power under current law to cap and kill,unless Labor stopped trying to micro-manage his immigration program by disallowing regulations in the Senate.
Mr Kerr said that 'Australians have always exercised their own choice on who they'll marry,and I don't believe any red-blooded Australian will allow the Government to force couples to queue up to live together.Now he's saying if he can't queue them he'll cut them off.
'If you meet and marry in January,thats OK,but if you're a December bride or groom you mightn't be able to get your spouse in for years.'
Mr Ruddock said he did not regard cap and terminate as the best outcome, but if it is necessary I will be applying it.
He said Labor had maintained a steady 37,000 quota for four years,before lifting it last year to 50,000.Many people had reported partners 'walking out the door as soon as they arrive in Australia.' 'The fraud is being occasioned on Australians by people seeking to migrate,' he said.
Mr Kerr blamed the increase on the wash-up of the Tiananmen Square massacre,under which Labor granted 40,000 Chinese people refugee status.But Mr Ruddock said there rises in applications accross the board, and the percentage increase was as great in England."
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JOHN HOWARD-The Lying Rodent.John Howard wants free trade but not the free movement of people.He thinks Australias biggest assets are its sheep, coal and uranium not people.He says he has the final solution to our problems "Too many people."
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The Blacklist
"Philip Ruddock gazetted regulations when he was Australia's immigration minister[number S241 of 1997] to stop visitors from many countries coming to Australia and among them is Poland.[Israel is also on the list as well as the following countries-Bangladesh, Burma, Cambodia, Chile, China, Colombia, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Egypt, Fiji, Greece, Hungary, India, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Macedonia, Mauritius, Nauru, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Portugal, Romania, Samoa, Slovakia, Sri Lanka, Syria, Tonga, Turkey, Ukraine, Uruguay, Vanuatu, Vietnam and Yugoslavia]."
More at
http://nowhiteaustralia.blogspot.com/

Posted by: blogggit at August 30, 2006 12:44 PM

In future Philip Ruddock wants to known as "Jihad Ruddock"

Posted by: blogggit at August 30, 2006 12:46 PM

Re Abu Bakhar Bashir...

Just goes to show the mindset of so many 'Islamic Clerics' that one sees in the news and with various reports. Even in a 'moderate' way, his language he is using is essentially saying that Islam is the be all and end all of the world. I wish that many Asian nations particularly would get out of the pan-Arab shadow they find themselves in, and start reclaiming their own identity, as many did at the end of the colonial era after WW2.

Seems like that many of these nations threw off the colonial yoke of European nations only to wrap around the Islamist pan-Arab blanket instead.

Mind you, OT a bit but just to respond to americaningermay's comment about blacklisting spouses from the above list of nations, as a guy who is looking to one day marry a Catholic Filipina, i think the Philippines is a bit misplaced being listed along the likes of Egypt, Pakistan and the like...I know many Filipinos here in Australia, indeed my boss is one also, and she is a successful business woman who is a great asset to Australia. Much more so than many of the Muslim faith who cloister themselves in enclaves and fail to adapt properly to our way of life.

Posted by: DaveOz at August 30, 2006 5:22 PM

I'll bet if he's given the green light to go on tour down under, Bashir will even blow up a few Aussie nightclubs for show and tell...

Posted by: pythagoras at August 30, 2006 8:22 PM

"Jewish and Christian people, I think, they will also punish adulterers by stoning them."

The First Christian Church would like to invite the public to it's 2006th annual Adulterers Stoning. Bring the family!

/sarcasism off

Posted by: watcher at August 31, 2006 12:21 AM

Memo to Australians: The assertion that Australia 'knows how to deal with these people' (Muslims) is wishful thinking. If Australians really knew how to deal with these people, Islam would NOT have been permitted to establish the beachhead there that it has.

Islam is nothing to be fooling around with. Islamic leaders consider exterminating entire races and civiliations and attacks using thermonuclear, chemical, and biological weapons indispensible to Islam. Islamic invaders over the centuries have invaded and destroyed numerous civilizations (some far larger and more powerful than Autralia). The great Hindu-Buddhist kingdoms of Central Java may have been destroyed by Islamic holy wars. You'll notice that our terrorist-friend is of Arab extraction--and NOT Indonesian! In the Indian subcontinent Islamic invaders massacred over 90 million Hindus alone and extirpated Buddhism from India (where Buddhism was founded). The extinct nation of Hindustan, once among the world's most populous and technologically advanced civilizations, was literally and brutally erased from the map in the 8th century. And so it goes. Do you really think such people are going to leave Australia without a war? Do you really think that Muslims wouldn't start a war to establish sharia on Australian soil?

If Australians think that the Islamosphere hasn't plans to take Australian territory away from Australia, beware!!Muslims now consider Australia to be THEIRS and Australians to be the invaders of Islamic territory. Every place that Muslims settle they consider Islamic (they won't tell you any of this, but that is how mosque leaders have been spreading Islam for the past 14 centuries). Australia is much deeper in global jihad than Australians probably care to admit. Australia is like the rest of the western democracies: deluded into thinking that Islam can be tamed--when in fact, it CAN'T!

Islam is impervious to modification or compromise. Muslims will never abide by laws other than Islamic. And they never have. Islam is never (and we mean NEVER) going to stop killing innocent non-combatants or abandon its goal of global domination. The fact that Australia has hundreds of thousands of Muslims on its territory and that Australian legislators are passing laws specifically to appease Islamists who have no regard for Australia strongly indicate Australians have no idea what they are up against.

Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are condemned to repeat them. Are they not? How many other nations over the centuries do you suppose thought they were successfully thwarting Islam's advancing global conquest? How many among these do you think actually succeeded in doing so? Australians think they are stopping Islam's inroads into their country. I see no evidence to support this view.

Australia, beware! And deliver us from Islam!!!

Posted by: pythagoras at August 31, 2006 3:14 PM

Exasperation! This is my third rewrite in response to some though not all of the above posts. Why don't we all just get real tough and kick our own governments in the cahounies, while thinking that the Moslem "hordes" remain fully faithful to their Leader and therefore emulate his illiteracy and severe dirth of general education? CUT IT OUT! We are worthy of much more than second rate drivel! I know. So do many Moslems!

I was raised by parents who lived as children through WWII. My pre-teen mother told (in Dutch) an SS (German) officer to go and get f*!ck@d by a real woman; and her intense defiance of a perverted man in absolute power over her life probably saved it. He went in search of someone over the age of consent. My father stopped a Japanese soldier from hitting my grandmother (with a sword) by boyhandling the man with cries of "Japan has much honour. Her men of great valour and honour! Forgive me! I love my mother as you love yours! I do only what you would do!" He had learned to understand enough Japanese to save both his mother's life and his own. That war is over. My parents are both dead. But the lessons I learned from them, I have never forgotten. I pass them onto you.

Remember this: Islam is tribal (Arab supremicism). It is not multi-cultural. It is not open-minded. It does not accept alternative points of view. It is not authored by the God of Israel or Jesus. It does not recognise the God-given mind for exploring the Truth for oneself, but insists on obeisance to the likes of al Khameini, Nasrallah, Bashir, Siriani and (gasp!) Koffee Annanymous (you know... never again!) Each one of these mere (and so inadequate) mortals has one thing in common: they would all love to be a mixture of Michael Jordan (sheer skill, charisma and character, yeah!), William Gates III (remarkable boyish charm, business nouse and shitloads of $$$) and Idi Amin (smiling crocodile who only ate when he was hungry), rolled up into one loveable teddy-bear that everyone wants to cuddle... and worship. It simply isn't going to happen, is it?!?! Well?

So, stop worrying and start focussing. I, for one, would consider it a true victory if no-one who "mocks Islam or the Profit" is required to have, as his/her postal address... Third Rock from the Sun. Islam's driving force is based on the egos of a tiny minority of tribal leaders that millions of silly Muslims are willing to go on the rampage for, but who the hell are these tribal leaders? And what is the Solution? Eliminate the tiny minority of tribal leaders. Nasrallah has already been told (Mossad) that his days are seriously numbered... He is not happy. Nor should any of them be... Let them give up their ambitions and their lives for the sake of the millions that might then be saved... Otherwise?

Posted by: maranatha50 at September 1, 2006 7:32 AM

It is obvous that these guys hate America because our laws and culture are diametrically opposed to sharia. After all, we are free to speak, dress, think, and worship as we please. Totalitarian followers of the false prophet (pox, plagues, and pestilence be unto him) can't stand the idea of people who refuse to kowtow to their brand of facism. I read about Australia's recent ban on sharia law and thought, "now if only our government would have the cojones to do the same!" I say, let's send all our noncomformists and their leftist supporters someplace where they'll be appreciated...like Tehran!

Posted by: ICHTHYS at September 2, 2006 9:20 PM