I sometimes marvel that Arabs have acquired a reputation for duplicity. Certainly, Nasrallah and bin Ladin himself, have both been very forthright in stating their strategic goals clearly, concisely and repeatedly. When you contrast this with the shambling, dissembling nonsense that all too often issues from western political "leaders" one is forced to wonder.What part of what these men say don't we believe? They will work tirelessly and by any means at their disposal to emerge as winners. They have told us what they want and what they are willing to do to get it. If we do not think we are at war, sit back and wait.

Posted by: MP at August 30, 2006 1:28 PM

What was more predictable?

The revelation that John 'Manboobs' Karr did not kill JonBenet

or

That Hezbollah will re-arm following the ceasfire.

Hmmmmm... let's think hard on that one.

Honestly, is this even newsworthy?

Posted by: MadrassasippiBurnin at August 30, 2006 1:29 PM

Based on this angle the second round might come in Gaza or West Bank:

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1207

Posted by: amana39 at August 30, 2006 1:37 PM

Doesn't take much brains to see that in round #2 Hizb'Allah will have more and better anti tank missiles and longer range missiles. That it won't be Hizb'Allah alone but missiles and Katyushas being launched from Gaza and Syria.

The strategy is two fold. Assault the Jews via rockets and missiles, then when IDF invades you attack them via anti tank missiles. Renders armor semi-useless. Plus Hizb'Allah used anti tank missiles extensively, not just against tanks

Posted by: dennisw at August 30, 2006 1:38 PM

Oh, for Pete's sake!
The nation is called "Israel" you goddamned idiots!
As if childishly calling it "the Zionist regime" (much like that moron Naseem and her constant "Amrika"s) every chance you get is going to keep it from kicking your barbaric asses.

Posted by: Eisenhund at August 30, 2006 1:38 PM

For those who can't figure it out for themselves, my last post was directed to any mohammedan trolls out there.

Posted by: Eisenhund at August 30, 2006 1:41 PM

So Hezbollah's # 2 Qasim admits that it did not foresee the calamity it brought on Lebanon, and another representative affirms that it is rearming for the next round. Seems like a mixed message. The handwringing over the destruction is presumably for show.

Let's hope that there is more spine in the government of Israel (and the US) in round 2.

Posted by: Dhimmisoftheworldunite at August 30, 2006 1:41 PM

It is hard to use all those anti tank weapons against a tactical small nuclear air burst. Muslim terrorists are too funny.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at August 30, 2006 1:49 PM

Well, the mixed messages may be a sign of change of Hezbollah leadership. Maybe Iran are not completely pleazed with Nazrallah.

Posted by: Marvin at August 30, 2006 1:54 PM

This time the Israelis should take the gloves off. Who cares what the un says? Go at them with it all, end it quick and you can win it before the un whines and asks you to stop.

Posted by: Ronin at August 30, 2006 2:21 PM

If the un had an army it would spend all it's time preparing to fight the US. Anyone remember the un ever voting for something the US wanted (without demanding a payment)? Guess who they call when they need help though. They are less than useless.

Posted by: Ronin at August 30, 2006 2:30 PM

I guess they weren't as victorious as they proclaimed....

Posted by: Giggle-Puss the Brave at August 30, 2006 2:36 PM

from the article: "In the first days we launched 100 missiles and in recent days we fired 350 missiles a day. So we have no problem from a military perspective," he replied."

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launching hundreds of unguided missles at civilian populations is NOT military operations! it's terrorism and war crimes! where is the condemnation from Kofi and the UN? (yeah right! but why aren't our leaders calling Kofi and the UN to answer for this?)

the entire world and the MSM have completely ignored this simple fact. just goes to show all of us of just how good the islamic propaganda machine really is.

Posted by: viahj at August 30, 2006 2:43 PM

Glenn Beck made an excellent comment during his show yesterday regarding this.

Once you get European boots on the ground between hezbullah and Israel, it only serves hezbollahs purpose.

They will fire close to UN positions at Israel. Israel will have the tough decision of deciding how to respond, especially with the collateral damage being UN European soliders. Maybe in the past this wouldn't have been a concern, but with the Olmert government....

Its a no-win situation for Isreal, and I can't believe the Olmert and US governments agreeded to this....

Posted by: adobe at August 30, 2006 3:10 PM

That's alright, so is Israel.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at August 30, 2006 3:13 PM

They agreed to this because Israel has learned the art of fighting limited, feelgood warfare from the Pentagon/Langley/Foggy Bottom lawyers in the US. These cocktail party apologists tend to be the Baby Boomer/Gen X types who vote for the party of Neville Chamberlain Kerry.

I recommend a reading of Clausewitz's "On War" for Olmert et al. They might learn something.

Posted by: MadrassasippiBurnin at August 30, 2006 3:25 PM

Israel should give Leb an ultimatum: Either disband Hez (or try to) or prepare for war.

Easy for me to say, being in the snug safety a few miles from Ground Zero.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at August 30, 2006 3:30 PM

Israel should give Leb an ultimatum: Either disband Hez (or try to) or prepare for war.

Easy for me to say, being in the snug safety a few miles from Ground Zero.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at August 30, 2006 4:09 PM

"Maybe Isreal is re-arming too. I sure hope so. I sure hope we are sending them some nice bombs also."

We can hope that the Merkavas get the Trophy active protection system. Tank crews suffered the greatest losses during the conflict.

Posted by: Marvin at August 30, 2006 4:55 PM

Islam is set up to punish those it disagrees with in the most harsh and bitter way possible, because after it as imposed its law completely, all who are left are either weak or a fellow zealot. Therefore there can be no more argument by dissenters that cannot be isolated and snuffed out by the zealots because any notion of popular resistance as been crushed.

To ensure that the zealots and the weak are kept focused on the ultimate goal and do not get the chance to actually think about what is happening, the pressure must be kept up, the ball must be kept rolling at any cost. The pressure of agitating Israel or blowing up planes, trains and automobiles may infuriate people in the West, but it encourages the people of Islam because even a defeat is twisted into a victory.

Keep the ball rolling so nobody as time to think. If the man in the Middle East was given some breathing space to actually think and not hate, then he might lose interest.

Lots of Iranians have no wish to fight the West. But Dinner Jacket is carrying the entire Middle East to war by beating it into them that we are the root of all their problems. If we are gone then they will have all our wealth and their problems will evaporate.

Of course the result of that approach is the complete destruction of both the West and Islam. That would leave the door wide open for China and Russia to step in as the new bosses on the street. China as no need for Islam’s useful idiots after that because they won’t suffer Islam on the streets of Beijing. They use tanks to deal with dissenters over there.

If they are using this type of strategy then no matter what you do they will find fault. If you dish out even more of our wealth to Arabs They will tell everybody it’s a cunning plan to buy them off.

So why not disengage from them? Boot the bastards out of our countries using some version of the war act if necessary or use the politician’s trick of making life unbearable slowly so they leave of their own accord. Tell the man in Iran that he can have his nukes if he wants but the West will build ten more for everyone he has and the targeting computers have Iran written all over them.

We are playing to their tune and they are winning.

Posted by: Mert at August 30, 2006 5:44 PM

Sean Hannity to the two new converts to Islam...er I mean fox reporters...Are you angry at the people who took you?.....Answer from both.......not really.....welcome to Islam boys

Posted by: storagemanager at August 30, 2006 5:44 PM

What if a couple foot soldiers for the Klan had taken these guys prisoner and demanded/received a blood oath from them? Then during the post-release interviews they reveal their love for the beauty of the Klanfolk and deny any hard feelings toward their captors. Come on! Imagine the media outcry. The ACLU would be irate, calling for the dissolution of FNC while the Reverend would march on Washington, blaming Bush the whole way. The irony is strangely comical.

Posted by: MadrassasippiBurnin at August 30, 2006 6:09 PM

let the hezbos do the talking, l know that military from Israel have learned a lot, and they will finish off the hezbos. that is not a promise, but hezbos bozs days are numbered.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at August 30, 2006 6:40 PM

viahj: Exactly right. Asininity is to be expected from Coffee Enema and his friends, but the shame is ours (US) as well: We should have demanded Coffee condemn Hez and its supporters.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at August 30, 2006 7:30 PM

Sorry to all for the (slightly) off color reference, but he (Kofi) is about as effective as....

Posted by: Seymour Paine at August 30, 2006 7:32 PM

Yes Mr/Ms. Paine it was a bit much.... However the UN is definately a creater of misinformation to say the least....

"Whoever lives as a neighbor to the Zionist regime is in danger and must not save any effort to obtain all of the means to defend himself."

I know it has been said here but come on.... Who starts the violence? We all know here, in this forum, what the agenda of these Islamo-Nuts is... To destroy Isreal... No amount of compromise will satisfy these nut jobs! So Hisbula and Hamas can at any time attack Isreal. When retaliated upon it is ALWAYS twisted to let them play the victim...

And the press seems to buy it or report it like fact... Like we need to hear the lies of these idiots...

Posted by: Weatherob at August 30, 2006 7:49 PM

And of course with Kofi Annan as Hizbollah's (and other global terrorism networks') cheerleader, anything is possible!

Posted by: pythagoras at August 30, 2006 7:57 PM

viahj: Hizbollah is known to be THE WORLD'S LARGEST TERRORISM ORGANIZATION. Anything and we mean ANYTHING Hizbollah does is likely to be either outright terrorism or terrorism-related. It's that simple. Period.

Hizbollah should have no credibility in any media outlets anywhere--outside of say al-Jazeera (which could properly be labeled "terrorvision"). If this terrorist network does enjoy media credibility it is because terrorism-related support networks have been infiltrating the media worldwide in recent years.

Thus, of course Hizbollah's tactics in its attacks on Israel were terrorist-- BECAUSE HIZBOLLAH IS A TERRORISM ORGANIZATION. And it is really nothing more than a terrorism organization.Terror attacks on civilians are Hizbollah's mainstay of existence and that is all that can be expected from it.

Posted by: pythagoras at August 30, 2006 8:14 PM

Of course they're arming for the second round, that's what a truce is about to a moslem.

Posted by: Anti-Jihad-Crusader at August 30, 2006 8:32 PM

I sure hope they start the second round befor ole jesse jaaccksooonn comes back home. With one misplaced round, well!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: AMartinez at August 30, 2006 8:42 PM

"Whoever lives as a neighbor to the Zionist regime is in danger and must not save any effort to obtain all of the means to defend himself."

Those bloodthirsty and evil islamist animals always state the exact opposite to what is true. It is really too bad that they get away with it. They should be punished every time.

Who is it that has carried out over 5000 acts or terrorism that last 5 years? Who is it that says "Death to USA/Israel" all the time? Some 90% of the deaths in Iraq is carried out by islamists killing each other, and even the number of deaths caused by Americans is artifically high since the islamist animals use civilians as shields.

We don't need to demonize them in the sense of making up stories and lying to make them look bad (like they do about us) - the best way to show that they are in fact mad animals is to simply see their own tv-programs, listen their own speeches, their own actions. They prove their bloodthirst and animality all the time.

Hm, kind of lost my main point, which is: don't let them get away with their lies.

Posted by: XY at August 30, 2006 10:10 PM

Fine. Then Lebanon is a state sponsor of terrorism, and should be treated as such,

Those of you who rely upon cable news and the MSM for your news are missing the boat.

I use Dishnetwork and watch Mosaic on Link TV Daily and every day this week I heard Fouad Sinoira and other Lebanese Lebanese say "Lebanon and Hizbollah are one.

And that is from their own mouths.. they have identified themselves as Hizbollah and announced to the world that Lebanon is Hizbollah.

Indeed Lebanon is a state sponsor of terorism, but don't put you hands on your hips waiting for your beloved President to acknowledge that or put Lebanon on the axis of evil list..won't ever happen, nor should it since he is staunch defender of that other prong of the axis of evil..the Iraqi Government.., which is nothing more than a thinly veiled franchise of the Iranian Revolutionary Council.. in fact it's name gives it way, Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq run by Ayatollah al Sistani and Ayatollah al Hakim, proxies of Ayatollah Khameini and allies of Ahmadinejad..

Posted by: Nariz at August 30, 2006 11:04 PM

Nariz: You're forgetting something. Until the late 1970s, Lebanon was a Christian-majority nation-state that did not sponsor Islamic terror in any way. The Lebanese Civil War of the 1970s was partly instigated and carried out by the Palestinian Authority in order to facilitate a Shiite takeover of the country--which continues happening before our very eyes. Millions of Lebanese Christians were forced to vacate Lebanon and continue doing so to this day (thanks to Hizbollah and the Iranian mullah-monsters). The Palestinians and the Iranians have frequently been close and have formed a virtual nexus between the Sunni and Shia factions, which proved useful in the formation of al-Qaeda, the founder of which was a Palestinian by the name of Shaikh al-Azzam. Hizbollah exists in Lebanese territory not because the Lebanese people want it there, but because Lebanon is no longer Lebanon as we knew it to be.

Lebanon truly is no longer the nation-state it once was. With a newly Islamic-majority population, it is has been absorbed into the Islamic 'ummah' and is just another front for Islam's global jihad. The non-terrorist civilians, waning in numbers as they are over there, are the REAL Lebanese and you have made no connection with this reality in your post.

Posted by: pythagoras at August 30, 2006 11:31 PM

Pythagoras, I'm wary of Greeks bearing gifts, especially when they're worried about Israel being an ally with Turkey.

Hezbollah has subdued the Christians for now with its intimidation. They can't speak freely until Hezbollah is gone. Now that the Syrian Army has been pushed out of Lebanon, it's natural that their flunky Hezbollah should go to.

Meanwhile, Pakistan's Musharraf may have outlived his usefulness:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3578

Posted by: sanman at August 31, 2006 12:54 AM

I really liked these two parts -

"Our situation is very good, the Israelis didn't manage to strike Hizbullah's military command and our ability to launch missiles. In the first days we launched 100 missiles and in recent days we fired 350 missiles a day. So we have no problem from a military perspective," he replied.

And then:

"From the perspective of the parliament and government in Lebanon, Hizbullah is not a military militia, but a resistance force.

Just doesn't add up. They aren't a military militia, but they have a military command.

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Posted by: tblubrd at August 31, 2006 1:13 AM

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&hn=36090

51% of Lebanese Vote in Favor of Hezbollah Disarming

Ipsos conducted the survey between August 14 and 17 and revealed agreement among 84 percent of Shiites against the disarmament of Hezbollah; however, disarmament of the group was supported by 79 percent of the Durzis, from 77 percent of Christians, and 54 percent of the Sunnites in the country.

Posted by: baraka66 at August 31, 2006 1:33 AM

An open letter to John Batchelor, of WABC radio:

Dear Mr. Batchelor: First, let me say I will miss your late evening radio show a great deal.

Second, regarding your statement August 30 that there is "no theological basis whatsover" in Islam for terrorism, I was surprised, having listened often to you, to hear something so far from the truth pass your lips. I will only give a few obvious counterexamples to your statement, in case you are truly unaware:

Quran Chapter 9, verse 29: Fight against such of those to whom the Scriptures were given as believe in neither God nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and His apostle [Muhammad] have forbidden, and do not embrace the true Faith [Islam], until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.

Quran Chapter 9, verse 5: "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.

Quran Chapter 9, verse 123: Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.

And here are several Quran verses that provide part of the theological justification for making Islam rule the whole globe in totalitarian fashion:

Quran Chapter 9, verse 33: He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.

Quran Chapter 8, verse 39: Make war on them [the unbelievers] until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme.

Quran Chapter 2, verse 193: And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.

There is plenty more where that came from, Mr. Batchelor. Meanwhile, outside the Quran, many of the ahadith (reports of sayings and deeds of Muhammad) are considered by Muslims to be unreliable. But Muslims consider the collections of ahadith known as Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim highly reliable, even canonical. According to the University of Southern California website, "Compendium of Muslim Texts," the ahadith collection Sahih Muslim

"is recognized by the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world to be one of the most authentic collections of the Sunnah of the Prophet."

The website says exactly the same thing about the Sahih Bukhari ahadith collection. The site also says:

"The Sunnah [which includes Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim] is the second source of Islamic jurisprudence, the first being the Qur'an. Both sources are indispensable; one cannot practice Islam without consulting both of them."

Here are some interesting ahadith from Sahih Bukhari, showing that Muhammad himself ordered the death penalty for apostasy, and showing why ALL the main schools of Islamic jurisprudence prescribe the death penalty for apostasy:

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:
Narrated 'Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle [Muhammad], 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 58:
Narrated Abu Burda:
Abu Musa said, "I came to the Prophet [Muhammad] along with two men (from the tribe) of Ash'ariyin, one on my right and the other on my left, while Allah's Apostle was brushing his teeth (with a Siwak), and both men asked him for some employment. The Prophet said, 'O Abu Musa (O 'Abdullah bin Qais!).' I said, 'By Him Who sent you with the Truth, these two men did not tell me what was in their hearts and I did not feel (realize) that they were seeking employment.' As if I were looking now at his Siwak being drawn to a corner under his lips, and he said, 'We never (or, we do not) appoint for our affairs anyone who seeks to be employed. But O Abu Musa! (or 'Abdullah bin Qais!) Go to Yemen.'" The Prophet then sent Mu'adh bin Jabal after him and when Mu'adh reached him, he spread out a cushion for him and requested him to get down (and sit on the cushion). Behold: There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Muisa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, "Then we discussed the night prayers and one of us said, 'I pray and sleep, and I hope that Allah will reward me for my sleep as well as for my prayers.'"

Mr. Batchelor, there certainly is a theological basis for what the terrorists and Islamic fascists do, and I have only quoted a tiny fraction of the relevant theological material. I would request you to read The Legacy of Jihad and the Fate of Non-Muslims, by Andrew Bostom. Consider having a go with former Muslim Ibn Warraq's Why I Am Not A Muslim (a book modeled, of course, after Bertrand Russell's Why I Am Not A Christian). Read the new biography of Muhammad that is about to be published by Robert Spencer (it will be available in the next month or so).

I see two possibilities here: 1) either you know there is a strong Islamic theological basis for terror acts against and Islamic supremacism over non-Muslims, but for any of numerous possible reasons, you chose not to let on that you know or 2) you were indeed unaware of the pervasive theological basis for Islamic terror, but nevertheless found it within you to speak with confidence in pronouncing a mistaken conclusion.

For strategic reasons, your friend Thad on the show August 30 may or may not have been right about moving to the "jihadist" term and dropping "Islamic fascism." But as far as I'm concerned you very much misled your listening audience. I hope you will reconsider your view.

Best of luck at the Hoover Institution, where I hope you meet the brave Hirsi Ali and tell her what you said on WABC about there being "no theological basis" in Islam for terror. I wouldn't be surprised if she found that assertion as full of hooey as I find it, though she might be too polite to tell you directly.

None of the other great religions -- not Buddhism, not Judaism, not Hinduism, not Christianity -- is nearly so inimical to democracy or anything near as prone to engaging in slaughter, mayhem and terror. Pointing out that there are deeply rooted theological foundations for all that in the primary Islamic documents is not the same as saying that all or even most Muslims subscribe to this aspect of Islam. But it is an error not to acknowledge, in the face of so much evidence all over the globe and all through fourteen hundred years of history, that these horrors are a part of Islam. Will we be able to deal effectively with the current challenges to the West if we are dishonest with ourselves about our adversaries?

Sincerely,
one of your listeners

Posted by: traeh at August 31, 2006 1:34 AM

Have the Israelis a missile that has pin-point accuracy up to 20 miles? If they have or can get one their strategy for round 2 would be simple. Hezbollah fires 100 katyushas into Israel hitting hardly anything - so Israel fires 100 rockets into south Lebanon (preferably with much bigger payloads) and wipes out 100 buildings with whoever happens to be in them. All Hezbollah could say is: "Using missiles that are more acurate than ours is unfair and barbaric." For maximum effect each missile fired should be sent off immediately following the arrival of an incoming.

Posted by: wallyUK at August 31, 2006 9:07 AM

define: hudna

Arabic word often translated as "cease-fire.- Historically used as a tactic aimed at allowing the party declaring the hudna to regroup while tricking an enemy into lowering its guard. When the hudna expires, the party that declared it is stronger and the enemy weaker. The term comes from the story of the Muslim conquest of Mecca. Instead of a rapid victory, Muhammad made a ten-year treaty with the Kuraysh tribe. ...

www.theisraelproject.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp

Posted by: squire at August 31, 2006 2:58 PM