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September 2, 2006

New videotape from al-Zawahiri, Gadahn

From AP: "Al-Qaida's deputy issues new videotape"

CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida's deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri issued a new videotape Saturday along with a man identified as an American member of the terror network, inviting Americans to convert to Islam.

As narrated in the ahadith, Muhammad himself stipulated that the mujahedin invite an enemy to Islam before an attack:

When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya [tax]. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them. (Sahih Muslim 19.4294)

The article continues:

The 41-minute video, posted on an Islamic militant Web site nine days before the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, had footage of al-Zawahri and a man the video identified as Adam Yehiye Gadahn, an American who the FBI believes attended al-Qaida training camps in Pakistan and served as an al-Qaida translator.
Gadahn and al-Zawahri did not appear together in the footage but were each featured on a split screen. Both wore white turbans and robes.
It was the second time Gadahn has appeared in the same video with al-Zawahri. In a July 7 video marking the one-year anniversary of bombings against the London transit system, Gadahn said no Muslim should "shed tears" for Westerners killed by al-Qaida attacks.
"To the American people and the people of the West in general ... God sent his Prophet Muhammad with guidance and the religion of truth ... and sent him as a herald," al-Zawahri said in an introduction to Saturday's video.
Gadahn spoke with his face uncovered, resembling FBI photos, with his name and nom de guerre -- "Azzam the American" -- written in titles in Arabic and English next to him.
"We invite all Americans and unbelievers to Islam," Gadahn said, sporting a long, thick black beard with a computer terminal in the background.
Gadahn, a 28-year-old from California who converted to Islam, is wanted by the FBI in connection with possible terrorist threats against the United States, though the agency says it has no information linking him to any specific terrorist activities.
Gadahn spoke for much of the video, saying he wanted to correct the image Americans have of Islam.
He described the West as "the civilization which enslaved Africa, slaughtered native Americans, fired bombs at ... Tokyo and (the Iraqi city of) Fallujah and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki."
He said America shows more concern for archaeological sites, like statues of Bhudda destroyed by Afghanistan's former Taliban rulers, "than it shows of the people of Afghanistan and Iraq."
He said "ignorance" of Islam "causes the people of the West to rapturously applaud when Israel perpetrates wholesale slaughter of Muslims in Lebanon and Palestine and leads them to give their consent to the atrocities that governments commit in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere in the Muslim world."
The video, issued by al-Qaida's production wing As-Sahab, had been advertised on militant Web sites for several days before it appeared Saturday.

Posted by Marisol at September 2, 2006 5:29 PM
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From Reuters article: "To Americans and the rest of Christendom we say, either repent (your) misguided ways and enter into the light of truth or keep your poison to yourself and suffer the consequences in this world and the next," Gadahn said in English.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-09-02T174900Z_01_L02687203_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURTIY-QAEDA-TAPE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

Looks to me like another threat if us infidels don't convert. I wonder what kind of nastiness they have planned.

Posted by: Caratacus [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 5:57 PM

From a strategic viewpoint it is very helpful to our anti-jihad cause for Bozo and his sidekick to release this video and others like it. It reminds people that Jihad has a face, that it is still breathing, and that it has as its stated goal the conquest of the planet under the black flag of Islam. In short, each time they remind us of the primacy of Islam in this war it keeps it in the headlines, much to the chagrin of the PC media.

Insofar as this Gadahn kid is concerned... I don't know where he is. I don't care what made him convert to the Religion of Hezbots. But I can assure everyone of two things:

1. He had a hard time getting a date in the US, hence the pursuit of a pre-Flintstone lifestyle;

and

2. He won't be allowed to bring any hair gel on the plane back to the States for that nasty beard. Doubtless he'll get back in at some point. Then, five years later, it'll be a History or Discovery Channel special on how he did it. He'll be a star!

Posted by: MadrassasippiBurnin [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:01 PM

gadahn, your'e using the devils dictate. I will never convert to your satanic cult. Try Christianity, as we don't blow up God's creations. What a dolt.

Posted by: mustang65 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:02 PM

What I want to know is why isn't this vermin not being charged with treason. Is that such an outdated charge? He should be executed publicly for his crimes. That treason is a possible charge should be made perfectly clear to all those California liberals who fail to instill American values in their kids and get scum like this as a result.

Posted by: TexasInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:07 PM

Gadahn is a loser and loner brought up is some godless liberal family, without any history of the goodness of the West, but you can only blame his parents for so much, he is a grown man and adult enough to know what he is saying and doing is wrong.
what he is paroting about the destruction by the West, is the mantra of the moveon.org types, and what liberal teachers preach in schools. Gadahn is loner and loser and so he gets to be the big man for a while in front of his taliban friends, hope he find his allah in hell very soon.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:15 PM

Tx - it's sad and infuriating, but one would have to commit mass murder at a Beltway cocktail party for our lawmakers and policy puffs to consider rekindling the Alien and Sedition Acts.

That's not to say that our govt isn't frothing at the mouth to execute some of its own; this is disgusting:

An Army investigator has recommended the death penalty for four soldiers accused of murder during a raid in Iraq.
Lt. Col. James P. Daniel Jr. made the recommendation in report obtained Saturday by The Associated Press.

Daniel found several aggravating factors that warrant a sentence of death in the case of four soldiers accused of killing three men during the May raid in the Salahuddin province.

Staff Sgt. Raymond L. Girouard, Spc. William B. Hunsaker, Pfc. Corey R. Clagett, and Spc. Juston R. Graber, all of the Fort Campbell, Ky.- based 3rd Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, were accused in the deaths.

The soldiers have claimed they were ordered to "kill all military-age males" during a raid on an island on a canal in the province. According to statements from some of the soldiers, they were told that the target was an al-Qaida training camp.

Hunsaker told investigators that he and Clagett were attacked by the three men and shot them in self-defense. Clagett said he was hit in the face and Hunsaker claimed he was stabbed during the attack.

"I had felt this action necessary for they had tried to use deadly force on me and my comrade," Hunsaker wrote in a statement.


Posted by: MadrassasippiBurnin [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:18 PM

These videos are getting so tired it is just the same bullshit over and over.

Posted by: stevenz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:26 PM

It's an upside-down world, MadrassasippiBurnin. I'm sure President Bush could pardon the soldiers- if he wanted to. It's the same with the two border patrol agents charged and convicted in the chasing & shooting in the butt of a Mexican drug smuggler and facing 20 years in prison. I didn't know the border patrol wasn't allowed to give chase. Slavery is freedom, war is peace.

Posted by: MontyRockIV [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:26 PM

Pray - five times a day? I don't think so.

Posted by: Havoc [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:33 PM

Poor little Zawahiri. Reduced to releasing impotent terrorist info-mercials from a squalid hut or cave somewhere in the crack of the world's a$$. No legions of terrorists to command, no 911 level plots that can be carried out, just a leftist American convert babbling like Ward Churchill.

This video will cause Americans to dislike islam even more than they do already. Good work Zawahiri and muslim moonbat Gadahn. Try to put a few more out before you're inevitably snuffed.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 6:45 PM

Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them.

What a field day for the FBI.

Posted by: limes [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:19 PM


Has anyone else seen the cheap ruse by CAIR to re-brand themselves as a freedom fighting patriotic civils rights group, it's amusing , they must think we're really stupid to fall for the charade to candy-coat their poison from the last decade of Law-Suits and bogus Islamophobia
charges for the slightest perception of attacking Islam which hurt the feelings of the hyper-sensitive/paranoid followers of Muhammad.

Hey ....Hooper...a weasel by any other name is still a WEASEL!


Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:25 PM

I'd be more interested in these videos if there was some implied nudity or sexual references.

Posted by: payingattention [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:30 PM

This video is a sign that Islam is REALLY in a panic because of the huge growth of the Christain Church in the global south. Info has shown that up to 6 million Muslims a year leave Islam. Just in Africa alone many are becoming Christians because they see Christianity is a faith of life and also of eternal life.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:31 PM

For those two video presenters, I have a question. If Islam is so good, why is the Christian faith growing even much faster?

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:35 PM

Muslims feel like victims. The West feels guilty. Is the world going mad?

IF ALL THE BIG terrorist attacks of the past 35 years — from the Munich massacre to the July 7 London bombings last year — had been carried out by groups of white, English, middle-aged newspaper columnists, I suspect my life might have become quite intolerable in recent years.

I would have had to get used to looks of fearful suspicion every time I got on a train or a bus. Whenever I checked in for a flight or sought entrance to a government building I would doubtless have been taken away for questioning.

It would, no doubt, have become very frustrating. I’d have probably taken to the streets with other white, English, middle-aged newspaper columnists (it would have been quite a big demonstration), with placards that declared “We are not all terrorists!”. Or, being prolix by profession, more likely: “Extrapolation from isolated instances of criminality to sweeping ethnic and professional characterisations is immoral!” But in the end, I’d have to accept that the suspicion was justified. That it was an inescapable fact that my ethnicity, age and profession had become associated, over a very long period, with a predilection for terrorist activities.
...
Pierre Rehov, an Algerian-born French filmmaker, who produced a documentary, Suicide Killers, was asked in a TV interview this year how the world could end the madness of suicide bombings and terrorism. “Stop being politically correct and stop believing that this culture is a victim of ours,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,19269-2337669,00.html

Slowly, some parts of the MSM is waking up.


Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:37 PM

Getting the Big Picture YET, America?

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:39 PM

Oh, and this message is for Gadahn:

I look forward to seeing your corpse, traitor.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:42 PM

DP111,

Good for the fact the MSM is starting to wake up for a change. Also great that ABC will be putting out the miniseries of the factors that lead up to 9/11.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:43 PM

Foehammer...or at least the pieces.

Posted by: BIRDDDOG [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 7:51 PM

My only concern is that Osama and his ilk are required by fatwa to call for our conversion before attacking us. It amazes me that a "religion" would allow such a loophole to exist in the first place.

I am further amazed that the AP actually credits Azzam the American as an "activist" instead of terrorist. It once again shows how complicit the MSM is in our failure to address what our real enemy is.

Posted by: Felix the Infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:02 PM

DP111, the timesonline is not the MSM. It is a small, conservative website. It has no connection to Time Magazine or any other prestigious outlet with the word TIME in it. Many anti-jihad articles you read on JW come from the timesonline.

You will never read that article in any of the major newspaper of the world. That is the MSM. And they show no signs of "waking up". It is not as if they are stupid. They suppress the islam-terror connection because the editors are leftists. They don't want the masses to be educated. They engage in misinformation, or withholding information, or obfuscating what information they can not withhold.

That is why they are called the fourth estate. Separate from the government and the church, but also separate from the people. They represent a fourth political conscience. And that political conscience has its own agenda.

Posted by: August22 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:11 PM

Dear August22,

It's really time for you to switch names, there's no need to keep it just because some posters here baited you with the question of what you were going to call yourself after the 22nd. There's no offense intended here, it just looks a little funny, that's all.

Posted by: OneEyedJack [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:16 PM

Gadahn mentions by name, "the Zionist Crusader, missionaies of hate, and counter-Islam consultants like Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, Michael Shore(sp?), and even that Crusader-in-Chief, George W. Bush," and states that if they "abandoned their unbelief and repent, and enter into the light of Islam," they would be our "brothers in Islam."

Posted by: M. Joseph [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:17 PM

My RSVP:

Sod off.

Prophet Geoff

Posted by: Geoff [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:18 PM

i wonder if al-qaida will set endless deadlines with us for converting to islam much like the eu has set endless deadlines with iran to end their nuclear program

Posted by: Mr. Ted Bundy [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:24 PM

Why should I change it. It is just a name for posting purposes. And it is certainly not the funniest sounding name on this board. I can think of a few that are funnier.

Posted by: August22 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:27 PM

August22/

The website http://www.timesonline.co.uk is part of the main stream media in the UK. It posts the stories that appear in The Times and in The Sunday Times - two very highly respected and widely read, by all levels of society, British newspapers. Both titles are printed overseas as well and enjoy respectable sales outremer. I buy both of those papers and I often use the website to catch up with any news in an edition I might have missed and I can assure you that articles on the website have appeared in one of the two papers.

I grant you that these newspapers are not USA main stream newspapers but the fight against jihad is global and I think that it is perfectly acceptable to quote another country's main stream media.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:31 PM

Memo to Gadahn:

Hey Idiot! If someone is an "unbeliever" (shouldn't that be nonbeliever) in religion, he or she is NOT going to sign up for Islam either. Why...? Because they DON'T BELIEVE, genius.

But then again, the quickest way to rid ourselves of this parasite group, would be to fill it with all those who do not believe in any types of religions, gods, prophets, etc. That should put Allah, Mohammad and the gang out of business.

Ok, non believers, unite! You have work to do.

Posted by: samhein [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:36 PM

We went for a Labor Day weekend drive today and ended up near Lewiston, Maine (home of the pig head roller). I felt the urge to take a look. There's a beautiful new mosque, the only building that can hold a candle to it is the State's Health and Human Services building.

I picked up the local paper to get a feel if there were any thoughts expressed on the very visible Islamic presence. Nothing but a large Islamic advertisement celebrating Omar using the 'sword of Islam' to control his troubled realm. Pretty wierd. I drafted a letter to the editor and am open to any editing the smart people here might be able to add:

To the Editor;

My family visited Lewiston over the weekend looking for some land. Reading through your paper, I noticed an advertisement from the Kora Shrine Temple. As I have spent some time in the Middle East, it caught my eye and I read it with interest. It includes the following language:

“After the death of Abu Bekr, the union held by the scimitar and whip began to unravel. Omar used the ‘sword of Islam’ to control his troubled realm.

Many cities had to be retaken and punished. This Khalid did with his usual fervor.”

Am I correct in gathering that the above passage celebrates the bloody oppression of people of differing religious views? I have some knowledge of the Qu’ran and would like to share only one passage in the interest of brevity. It is representative of a good portion of the book. Students of the Islamic faith memorize these passages.

[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

I ask that the Twin City Times use judgment in what you choose to print. I am not comfortable giving my name or address.


Text of Add


Posted by: limes [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:42 PM

His aunt's name is Nancy Pearlman? So was he Jewish?

Would he kill his own family then?

ALL criminals can justify their behavior in their minds.

I notice he never mentions anything about all the muslims murdering each other for their sects. All the murdering done in Algeria by muslims. And everywhere else. So, Assam, are muslims allowed to kill anyone they want? As long as they can justify it in their minds.

Islam, the religion of murder.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 8:54 PM

Invitation noted:

Sorry, DECLINED.

Posted by: Oakland Raider [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:07 PM

So the dude with the weird thingy on his forehead and his litle boyfriend release another video: Last chance to convert to Islam, blah, blah, blah. I bet those two really get-it-on. Now that I would watch.

Posted by: Mr. Slugworth [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:08 PM

Why is everyone assuming Gadahn is from a liberal family? According to Wikipedia, his father was Jewish and converted to fundamentist Christianity, and Gadahn was home-schooled. Does that sound liberal?

Liberals can be just as upset about this as conservatives, you know.

Posted by: Phylmom [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:08 PM

Gadahan:
1: I refuse to worship a rock in Mecca. I prefer death as a free man to life as a slave.
2: "Millions for defense, but not one cent in tribute!" (No jizya, piss off.)
3: I invite you and your fellow islamo-fascists to kiss my hairy, red, white and blue ass.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:18 PM

Convert? I'd like to convert most of Arabia to a
great big glass parking lot. That's about it for
conversion.

Posted by: root_cause [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:21 PM

1)Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. ...
2) If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya [tax]. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands.
3)If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.

I chose #3. Come on down, my bullets are lubed with good old AMERICAN pork fat. You won't get a chance to go to heaven and meet your 72 virgins. You'll just get a chance to go to hell and meet 72 she devils that you forced to wear burlap bags (oops burkas) and serve you on earth. Pay back is a b*tch mo.

Posted by: CelticCoyote [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:26 PM

Borg: yes and yes. Another psycho with some Jewish background. Why do so many Jews hate America, their only friend?

Posted by: n.a. palm [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:32 PM

Dear Mr. Gadahn,
Please accept my apology, I am sorry I used to pick on you and take your lunch money in 3rd grade. I am also sorry I made fun of your Slayer and Gwar t-shirts in HS. I see now that you a sensitive and caring fellow human being.
Now would you please come home, get a haircut, shave the beard, and fulfill your destiny of an assistant manager's position at Home Depot? You're cutting into my TV time.

P.S. Who the hell chooses the middle name Yehiye?

Posted by: Anthony [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:37 PM

Don Feder has an excellent article at Chron Watch. An excerpt:

Would you be more likely to have an anxiety attack at 20,000 feet if the passenger seated next to you was: A) An Irish nun saying the Rosary? B) A Mormon missionary in regulation white shirt and narrow, black tie? C) A Hari Krishna in a standard-issue saffron robe? or D) A bearded bloke of Middle Eastern complexion holding a well-thumbed Koran?...a la Letterman, I humbly offer The Top 10 Reasons Why It’s Quite Possible That Islam Isn’t Exactly a Religion of Peace...


Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 9:50 PM

The latest 21st Century American, under the influence of Al-Qaida, Adam Yehiye Gadahn, doesn’t understand the objectives of the 18th Century European and US Enlightenment, the secular European and US Constitutions, and the respect for individual freedom, found in the West. He is blinded by his dogma, his dream, and his fairytale of Islam. Mesopotamian Christians were poetic and scripted the Koran in a seductive way, but the folly of a universal deity, Allah, pulling his strings to ensure only Islam prevails, and the naive concept of always looking backward for guidance. Islamic mysticism is bliss to jihadis, but nevertheless, tribal militant Islam must be crushed, because it stands in the way of progress in the civilized world. These carryover human constructed cults from the ancient world must be exposed for the fraud they represent. Islam is a mafia that must be made to account for the mental repression it imposes on humble minds. The rest of us will take the necessary action and responsibility in the present, and plan for a more rational world in the future. Too much religion is an impediment to other creativity. Muslims must take notice, their non-Muslim peers in India, China, and the West, invent new civil technologies independently and through networks, but we do not hear about self-constructed civil, scientific, and other secular achievements in Muslim countries.

Posted by: SFOD [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 10:06 PM

Phylmom-
People think he was raised liberal mainly because he grew up in Orange County.
Also the reading list for his at home schooling. When you only read books written by people who hate their country, written to make you feel terrible about your country and you live in a community where everyone around you spends time and money to denigrate your country, what else could the end result be?

That would give a teenager a feeling of low self-worth.

What to do to correct that? Find a purpose. A focus.
The muslim world spends all of it's time berating others. The enemy. What other religion talks about it's ""enemy"" all the time? That's it's focus. Makes them feel better about themselves.

You can wash all day and pray all day too, but you'll never be "PURE".

And don't all western countries already pay fortunes to islamic countries?

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 10:14 PM

Gadahn:
I am a Christian. I will not convert to Islam. I will not pay jizya. I will never understand the appeal of Islam because the more I learn about Islam the worse it gets.

Posted by: Bad_Attitude_Infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 10:32 PM

Bad_Attitude_Infidel ...let me help you understand Islam...

"Who is a LIAR but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son”. 1 John 2:22

Doesn't Islam deny that Jesus is the Son of God? Islam says that Allah has no son….

Who is the father of all lies? That would be Satan….So then, it doesn’t take much to figure it out from there.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 11:07 PM

One question occurs to me: Do the real leaders of Al Qaeda & other big-league Saracen death-squads realize that their American and Euro Converts are nerds, losers and generalized goof-balls?
I get an image of some of the troglodites-in-chief sitting around smoking hasheesh and drinking camel piss and saying "Hey, I've got a good idea - let's get that fat American asshole to do a video. Wouldn't that be a hoot?"
Or are they really crazy enough (themselves) to take these wannabes seriously and imagine them as being capable of anything significant?
As for the invitation:
No thanks. But, no thanks.
I hope that the world at large is getting tired enough of Islam to do something about it.

PS Every time I go into a supermarket and see a pale-faced red-hedded American gal all Moslemed-up in gown and veil, I want to slap her across the face and scream at her: "Do you really need to get laid that bad?" and "Why are you punishing Mommy and Daddy?" Don't these babes realize that while they're home stuffing grape-leaves and dressing their marital wounds, the old man is out nailing his girlfriends and boyfriends?

Posted by: Sansantiago [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 11:09 PM

"""My only concern is that Osama and his ilk are required by fatwa to call for our conversion before attacking us. It amazes me that a "religion" would allow such a loophole to exist in the first place.""" Posted by: Felix the Infidel

Felix...my thoughts EXACTLY. I think this video is simply going through the motions before an attack. Wasn't it only a week or so ago we were hearing about some Imam giving Bin Laden the okay to kill millions of us?

"""""I'd be more interested in these videos if there was some implied nudity or sexual references""""".

Posted by: payingattention

Payingattention...EWWWWWW THAT would be really U.G.L.Y.!

"""""i wonder if al-qaida will set endless deadlines with us for converting to islam much like the eu has set endless deadlines with iran to end their nuclear program""""

Posted by: Mr. Ted Bundy

Mr. Bundy...Unfortunately….YOU MADE ME LAUGH WITH THAT ONE....:o)

""""Convert? I'd like to convert most of Arabia to a great big glass parking lot. That's about it for conversion""""".

Posted by: root_cause

That's the best ‘forced conversion’ I’ve heard of yet.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 11:11 PM

Convert for what ? Of all the religions, Islam has offered the least by way of constructive contributions. Wherever it has spread, it has pillaged, murdered and set back civilization by a few millenia. It is a culture bereft of learning, tolerance and all that makes life worthwhile.
Look at India where a multitude was forced to convert by the sword, they have sucked the blood out of a civilization that was once unsurpassed in grandeur and nobility.

Posted by: bajirao [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 11:20 PM

Goobs,

Exactly. If Muslims knew God they would know He has a Son.

You will know them by their fruits.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 11:25 PM
Why is everyone assuming Gadahn is from a liberal family? According to Wikipedia, his father was Jewish and converted to fundamentist Christianity, and Gadahn was home-schooled. Does that sound liberal?

Liberals can be just as upset about this as conservatives, you know.
Posted by: Phylmom

Because a good portion, maybe a majority of the posters here are immature blockheads and eat up self righteouos ideologues...they see the muslim, and it is like looking in a mirror.

The similarities in mindset between muslims and these bozo's should be obvious...both are "conservative", both are self righteous, both are dolts who are too busy reacting because they can't or won't think.

Posted by: Nariz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 11:41 PM

"The similarities in mindset between muslims and these bozo's should be obvious...both are "conservative", both are self righteous, both are dolts who are too busy reacting because they can't or won't think."

You are either a leftist or a so-called "libertarian" from that mindset. You are the weakest link.

Posted by: M. Joseph [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2006 11:56 PM

This is a big media ploy, why don't they have Americans on the news telling the devils where they can kiss us. But no Americans get to say a thing.
First off the book they warship is reprinted all the time to suet some crazy child molesting killer thief.
I did some research on their demonic book, and all I came up with was a pack of lies.
Not much proof of what it said. They reprint it when they finger out a new way to steal, kill, molest, lie. It made me sick. Then they think that we are going to convert, most American's see it for what it is. We need a way for good people to tell all of Islam to go to hell. But the network TV seems to only let them talk, we need to get the American word out.
After all with the hate crime bill in place, we cant say what we want. Calling a Devil a devil is against the law, it look's like we need to do some cleaning up of the laws. Most of all enforce the ones that are on the books. Like define what treason is.
This is my word to Islam.
The day is coming when you will be on your knees, praying to your devil god. You will see a flash of light, the wind will pick up the sand and blast you till the flesh falls from your bones. Then the heat will rise too a white hot heat, for that is what it will take to cleans the bones of your dead. Then the wind will spread your dust back into the sand, then all of the world will rejoice.
This will be a day to remember.

Posted by: ironkitten [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 12:13 AM

This waste of space is no Jewish brother of mine, he is was a half breed with no breeding. The bull jumped the fence . As for most Jews hating America
just check the roster of the brave guys that have laid down their lives for our great land going way back to the revolutionary war. The founding fathers had great respect for the Hebrews and knew that they were to be a main cog in the nations wheel and they have. N.A. PALM is indeed using his palm too much. Together we prevail again.....

Posted by: jacobyhammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 12:23 AM

i just read that robert spencer was mentioned in gadahn's video.

you must be doing something right!

my hat is off to you, sir!

Posted by: Jim The Kafir [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 1:13 AM

We have a common enemy that is trying to kill innocent Americans,westerners or non believers.
Get off this liberal/conservative crap. The soldiers that are fighting and dying in Baghdad are fighting for us.

Whatever type of raising this Al Quaeda stooge expierienced or whether his folks are liberals is of no consequence. This guy is an adult and has made his choice and we will deal with him.Save your rabid hatred for the enemy and not the values that law abiding American citizens hold.

I am sure your parents are perfect butwe are all in this together and your self-righteous rant is anti- American or should be taken up on some conservative radio talk show.Some of our dead soldiers have taken bullets have liberal parents.

Posted by: basil [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 1:42 AM

Phylmom:

Gadahn is a raging leftist who decided islam was the best venue for acting on his extreme hatred for America and Western culture. Leftism is arguably hereditary, but many people grow up to have different beliefs than their parents or families.

"Leftist" and "liberal" aren't synonyms. Liberal means tolerant and progressive. Leftists are anything but. They are, in fact, intolerant, regressive fascists who try to suppress any views that deviate from their own. They hate mainstream American culture like poison.

Islam is a perfect fit.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 1:49 AM

I invite all of infidels to Islam, accept Islam because Islam is religion of peace, bla... bla... bla... bla...... BLAARRRR!!!!!!

Posted by: Mohammed_Pedophiles_Club [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 1:59 AM

Goobs and Isabellathecrusader:

Judaism does not recognize the divinity of Christ. According to the Holy Bible, they are the chosen people of God. They know God, and they're no satanists.

The muslims are definitely satanic, but be careful of how you phrase your observations.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 2:00 AM

There are a lot of radio talk show hosts, TV commentators, and other pundits who are kicking their dogs tonight because they missed the list. Congratulations for hitting a nerve (and thank you).

This twerp should be given wide coverage. Americans are wary of ‘bible-thumpers’, and will be downright reactionary when they are introduced to failed young men in turbines. Back when I was struggling to get the attention of females, the lies were much simpler.

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25; Slumming times ten.

Writing tonight from the ‘human farm which these men and women control’. I think that means you, Host. I hope you’ve got a flexible deal with your publisher.

Posted by: limes [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 2:03 AM

basil:

The American left (liberal my ass,) are in league with the jihadis. "Any enemy of my enemy...." It's been described as an "unholy alliance," and that description is indisputably valid.

The left is far more dangerous than the jihadis. The jihadis don't have a chance of beating us, but the left has a good chance of making us surrender.

The left figuratively spits on every soldier fighting in Iraq. It ghoulishly capitalizes on their deaths for ideological and political gain.

Leftists are the scum of the Earth, along with the jihadis.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 2:16 AM

Felix and the Gooobs

You're talking about the loophole requiring Muslims to ask you convert or pay a jizz tax or whatever they call it before being slaughtered by their hordes.

But even they don't obey that rule. Think of all the people who died in 9/11 and every other unexpected terror attack. Did they have a chance to revert or whatever? What a bunch of hypocrites...

However, this can be a justificiation within islam against terrorism, while still allowing jihad.

Posted by: WingedHussar [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 3:11 AM

I have in full REJECTED Islam because it is a false faith, allah is none other then the enemy, the Devil and muhammed is a false prophet. Jesus in the Gospels have warned against false prophets. Islam and muhammed is proof.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 3:18 AM

"...and will be downright reactionary when they are introduced to failed young men in turbines."

I don't know, limes. I wouldn't mind seeing these guys chucked into (jet)turbines. They work well enough to mince unobservant birds.

Turbanned losers introduced to combines works for me too.

Posted by: Eisenhund [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 3:41 AM

Gadahn is a piece of slime. A fitting element for Islam, I think. If the tape is meant to scare me, I am not scared, nor am I humored. The Jihadis want war? Let 'em have it!

Posted by: bonncaruso [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 5:54 AM

And there I was thinking that it was for our War for Oil in Iraq that the muslims wanted to kill us.

Now it means that the liberal left will have to convert to Islam before they can stop blaming themselves for why other people hate them. And you know what, I think that most of them are such damn cowards, they might even do it!

Posted by: FREE LEE [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 8:23 AM

Convert (to something better, preferably Christianity) yourself, or die yourself, Gadahn you fascist devil-pig.

Posted by: n.a. palm [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 8:24 AM

.....The similarities in mindset between muslims and these bozo's should be obvious...both are "conservative", both are self righteous, both are dolts who are too busy reacting because they can't or won't think......


OK. First, I am not a conservative. Far from it. But I'm not what you would call a liberal either. However, you don't have to fit into a catagory to have views that fall on one side or another. You don't have to be one or the other, even though most people probably are.

Secondly, most of us are reacting, because we ARE thinking...We see what is going on, what these "people" are trying to do, and it infuriates us to no end. If you don't react when someone is forcably trying to either take over your life or end it, you've got some real issues. And if you don't or won't see that this is what Muslims are doing..or trying to do, then there again, is a problem. If you want to be overtaken, fine, but the rest of us will fight it.

I see no simularities between people posting on this list and Muslims.

Posted by: samhein [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 9:26 AM

"Leftist" and "liberal" aren't synonyms. Liberal means tolerant and progressive. Leftists are anything but. They are, in fact, intolerant, regressive fascists who try to suppress any views that deviate from their own. They hate mainstream American culture like poison.

Islam is a perfect fit.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz

What you say above is absolutely true...unfortunately, the 'lefties' have hijacked the Democrat Party. There is no room for more moderate Democrats because they are sacraficed by their party in favor of Bush haters.

Then we have the Republican Party which used the conservative Christians to get elected and once elected have completely ignored their wishes...prefering to bow down to big business instead...example the illegal immigrants/border issue.

On Judiasm and Christ. We are told in the New Testament that the Jews are made blind by God FOR A TIME...so in future they will see. As for the time being, they do not recognise their messiah. However, I have never seen writing in any synagogue that I have been in which says..."JEHOVAH HAS NO SON".

Islam says ALLAH HAS NO SON regularly and has it written in some of their mosques. Judiasm also has not invented stories...like Jesus had a look-alike die in his place on the cross and that he didn't die but went up to heaven instead...BLATANTLY denying that there was payment for sin via the death and resurrection of Christ.

Islam, as we all know, drew from the writings of both the OT and NT and twisted and re-invented stories to justify their false faith. There is nothing false about the OT of which the Jews and Christians believe or the NT of which the Christians believe. Not knowing is not the same as lying or blatantly denying the truth in a false religion. Christians and Jews believe in the true GOD.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 12:42 PM

P.S. If God, for a purpose and for a time, blinded you from seeing...would YOU be able to fight it? Hardly.

If God does something, you can bet, you'll submit to it. Only by the grace of God is a person able to see the truth of Jesus Christ. Only by the hand of God is a person's eyes opened. We have free will. If we choose to reject God, then we are subject to deal with the consequences.

Example:

Pharoah had a hard heart...and no matter how many times he was told to let God's people go...he resisted. He CHOOSE to disobey God...even after all the plagues...even after he knew that Jehovah was God. So at last, when God gave Pharoah a hard heart....he simply gave him what he wanted all along and when GOD gives you a hard heart...forget it...you're a gonner!

In the OT, when the Jews obeyed, they were richly blessed. When they turned their back on God and involved themselves with false gods or disobeyed God or tried to do things their way rather than God's way...they were being unfaithful to God who had been faithful to them. As a result of their unfaithfulness, they suffered...sometimes by the hand of God and sometimes by God removing His protection and allowing their enemies to thrash them a bit. They would eventually recognise their sin/unfaithfulness and turn back to God in repentance. This is a lesson for all of us.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 1:37 PM

"...or keep your poison to yourself and suffer the consequences in this world and the next," Gadahn said in English...

I wonder if 'POISON' is the key word here.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 1:42 PM

Gadahn,like his brothers and sisters, have been possessed by the malevolent demon Allah. If you dont believe Allah is demonic, read his books. His main man Mohammad really is a good example of demon possession. When Mohammad died neither Gabriel nor Allah showed up to see him off. No golden chariot to carry him to Paradise, no white horse with wings, nothing. He died a miserable death as attested to by his child bride, he died in her arms. The reason that Allah did not attend to Mohammad is because demons dont attend funerals. Funerals are bad for Allah. Flowers especially repulse him. Which is the real reason people adorn caskets and graves with flowers.
Flowers repulse evil entities and attract positive ones...or so the theory goes. How many muslims grow or purchase flowers? I bet Gadahn never stuck his nose in a rose in his life. It must be terrible to be stuck in a life of rancid odors, no wonder these people are so touchy. Allah promised Paradise and all they get is stench. Breath deeply Gadahn, thats the smell of Paradise you are inhaling...enough to gag a magot is'nt it...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 2:48 PM

jacobyhammer: sure, but why do they vote for Hillary, Kerry, etc., who will abandon Israel in a heartbeat for a few shekels. Mypoint is that a vote for a liberal is a vote against Israel.

Posted by: n.a. palm [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 5:21 PM

Goobs:

I didn't mean to imply that you're anti Semitic, or that Jews and Christians don't worship the same God. I just wanted you to know that some readers could misconstrue your words as anti-Semitic or anti-Judaism.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2006 7:32 PM

Prelude.

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2006 3:55 AM

Al Qaeda Shit List (videos)

http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/videos/FN090306.php
Part I

http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/videos/AQ1.php
Part II

Posted by: Terror-Free Oil [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2006 7:06 PM

Can I get a sample of the 72 virgins before I sign up?

Skip the scented boys for me though, thanks.

Posted by: PvtJoker [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2006 8:44 PM

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