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I admire the work done by Paul Marshall at Freedom House on the persecution of non-Muslims in Islamic societies, and related matters. But I have noted before his attempts to portray traditional and mainstream elements of Islamic law as "extreme Sharia." In a mostly fine article in the generally clueless My Weekly Standard (unfortunately reprinted at FrontPage this morning) about the Centanni/Wiig forced conversions, he quotes a passage from the Hamas Charter as an example of its extremism -- without noting that it is actually a quotation from the Qur'an:
Hamas's explicit goal is to institute a state based on extreme sharia law. If that comes to pass, the rights of non-Muslims will be radically curtailed, and they will be required to pay a special tax, the jizya. Last year, Beth lehem councilor Hassan Al Masalmeh declared the authorities' intention to implement such a tax. The preamble to Hamas's 1988 founding covenant declares that not only Jews but also Christians "are smitten with vileness wheresoever they are found" unless they submit to Muslim rule and sharia. Article 13 emphasizes, "The Jews will never be pleased with you, neither the Christians, until you follow their religion."
This is not some invention of Hamas "extremists." This is from the Qur'an: "And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah (Himself) is Guidance. And if thou shouldst follow their desires after the knowledge which hath come unto thee, then wouldst thou have from Allah no protecting guardian nor helper" (2:120).
Also, the idea that non-Muslims are the "vilest of creatures" comes from Qur'an 98:6.
We can expect to see more forced conversions, and other travesties, as spreading radical Islam shapes not only terrorist groups but also governments, and we need the religious education to understand it. Currently, as reporting on the Fox duo shows, much of the media is intellectually unequipped to report on the Muslim world.
Ain't it the truth.
Posted by Robert at September 5, 2006 6:45 AM
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Robert,
Thank-you for the new title, "extreme Sharia". We have seen "extreme sports", so now we see "extreme Sharia" in this present world war.
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at September 5, 2006 7:19 AM
I wish you'd persuade Daniel Pipes, who still wants to encourage the growth of the influence of "moderate" Muslims among their coreligionists. If "extreme" sharia is orthodox Islam, then "moderate" Muslims are heterodox. If the "moderates" were the true Muslims, they'd demonstrate in their thousands after each atrocity, carrying signs proclaiming "Not In Our Name!" They are too numerous for their passivity to be explained by fear. No, it's pretty clear that they know they've deviated from true Islam.
Posted by: Frieda at September 5, 2006 7:49 AM
One of his books is:
"Islam at the Crossroads: Understanding Its Beliefs, History and Conflicts"
To bad he isn't less idealistic about Islam and doesn't know his Koran better
Posted by: dennisw at September 5, 2006 8:07 AM
Or would that be "gnarly"?
"Gnarly Shiite Cleric, Muqtada al-Sadr"? (ala out-FOXed News, cnn, BSNBC, al-Beeb, NDT)
Nah.
Posted by: Eisenhund at September 5, 2006 8:51 AM
It is unfortunate Marshall would make errors exposing his lack of knowledge in a topic he is passionate about.
I read this article and he did make a good point regarding the media downplaying the forced conversion and this blatant hypocracy:
" If Muslim prisoners in American custody were forced to convert to Christianity on pain of death or as a condition of release, the press would denounce it as virtual torture, and rightly so: No sane person would say the prisoners had suffered no harm."
Then Marshall goes on to validate the conversion with:
The two journalists, having announced their conversion, now must live as Muslims lest some imam declare them apostate and his followers take it upon themselves to carry out a sentence of death.
NONSENSE! Leave Centanni and Wiig to come to their own conclusions about how each will personally resolve the forced conversion. They don't owe the public any explanations. Publicly renouncing the conversion benefits who? Keeping silent affords them their privacy and keeps the imams guessing.
Why add fuel to the fire? The imams standards are illegitmate in my world since they ultimately contort facts to suit their own purpose anyway.
Posted by: miira at September 5, 2006 9:12 AM
What is the Sharia?
http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21475
Your guide to what is in the Koran and Hadiths.
Try searching the words religion, kill.
It really is all available. All you have to do is spend a little time reading.
Posted by: Borg
at September 5, 2006 9:16 AM
Here is a search of Hadith Bukhari.
(24) Narrated 'Ikrima: Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'" (Book #84, Hadith #57)
(25) Narrated 'Ali: Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection." (Book #84, Hadith #64)
at September 5, 2006 9:24 AM
(5) They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,
Chapter #4, Verse #89)
Islam, the religion of murder.
at September 5, 2006 9:39 AM
http://www.islamundressed.com/
Posted by: Borg at September 5, 2006 9:52 AM
non-Muslims will be radically curtailed, and they will be required to pay a special tax, the jizya
Until now only death and taxes were certain.
Now islam sums them up in a new fashionable way:
taxes or death.
Great religion.
I think I will throw away the Kanjur and the Tanjur, the Patrologia Latina and the Patrologia Graeca, Parmenides and Homer, ChangTzu's works and Han Shan's poems, the Bhagavad Gita and the Veda, the Torah and the Gospels.
"Death or taxes" is so deep.
Posted by: POITIERS-LEPANTO at September 5, 2006 9:59 AM
Actually this exposes a subtle form of propaganda.
By assigning supremacist and exterminationist islamic texts to "terrorist" factions such as Hamas , hesbullah etc etc , one creates false impressions that these are deviant groups and Islam is a "peaceful " religion.
It is a clever ploy to hide the source from the eyes of the public, a form of appesement.
at September 5, 2006 10:30 AM
Right you are, M. le Chevalier.
Posted by: MP at September 5, 2006 12:28 PM
how about taxing the muslim immigrants on western soil?
Posted by: FedUp at September 5, 2006 2:15 PM
"By assigning supremacist and exterminationist islamic texts to "terrorist" factions such as Hamas , hesbullah etc etc , one creates false impressions that these are deviant groups and Islam is a "peaceful " religion.
It is a clever ploy to hide the source from the eyes of the public, a form of appesement"
This "clever ploy" would have little or no chance of succeeding were the West itself not dominated by the PC Multiculturalist template, by which Islam itself is always exonerated and surgically detached from forms of "extremism" that are deemed to have nothing substantive to do with Islam.
at September 5, 2006 3:19 PM
The funny thing with religions is that they believe (indeed of necessity they must believe) that because one mouths some words and/or undergoes some ritual one is from that time onward a member of that religion.
I will need the next 30 minutes to consider and cipher all of the religions that I must belong to, for surely I've even said (or at least typed or read) the Shahada, and I know that I was Christened Presbyterian, then Baptised Southern Baptist, then Christened Catholic.
No bar mitzvah, though one of my female ancestors a few generations back was German Jew..I hear that according to the Talmud and Israeli Law such makes me a Jew.
Yegads I'm a universalist, but I honestly believe in none of them.. nor do I accept their major or minor premises either.
Posted by: Nariz at September 5, 2006 6:31 PM
Borg linked
http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21475
Where is Mentat anyway?
Posted by: Carolyn2 at September 5, 2006 6:34 PM
Yegads I'm a universalist, but I honestly believe in none of them.. nor do I accept their major or minor premises either.
Posted by: Nariz at September 5, 2006 06:31 PM
I think you have driven that point home, but thanks for reminding us. Were you terrorized by any fundamentalist Christians today? No? Tomorrow's another day.
Posted by: Susanp at September 5, 2006 9:55 PM
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