If Samir Gaegae ever replaces Emile Lahoud, he's the man who can do what Bachir Gemayel was pre-empted from doing (with his assassination by Syrian Nazis) - save Lebanon from Islam.

If it isn't already too late.

Also, Hizbullah should be deported to Southern Iraq.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at September 24, 2006 2:14 PM

The IDF must reform itself. The decay of Marxism has infused itself into what was once the world's greatest military. Without the IDF, all order would disappear from the Mideast cuz the Imams and Muftis and Ayatollahs would be running things, and we know what that would lead to. Poor Moslems. So helpless; yet so powerful.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at September 24, 2006 2:23 PM

I wonder how long this christian leader will have to live?

Posted by: MCMXCAD at September 24, 2006 2:31 PM

"Tens of thousands of right-wing Christians turned out at the tumultuous rally north of Beirut"

That's an odd description.

Posted by: remote_control at September 24, 2006 2:46 PM

How did 500,000 hezbollah cronies suddenly become 800,000? Sounds like a Leftist march in Washington, the numbers just keep going up!

...regardless of the Serious lack of people you can often manke out from the pics.

I wonder if the MSM even bothered to Notice this counter- march?

Posted by: Gary at September 24, 2006 2:48 PM

The Hizballah "Apes and Pigs" go squealing through Lebanon, creating a smell, holding the country hostage. It's sad for the Lebanese people that Nasralla doesn't go to the butcher shop.

Is it insensitive to call Muslims "Apes and Pigs"? I understand that phrase is fine with Muslims. Since they like that phrase, non-Muslims should call Muslims "Apes and Pigs".

Posted by: Frank at September 24, 2006 2:55 PM

"Tens of thousands of right-wing Christians turned out at the tumultuous rally"

I appreciate the detail. "Right-wing"...soon to become "far-right-wing" (in the next column, probably). And soon to be labeled warmongers and rabid intolernats.

MEMO: once upon a time, but it was IN my lifetime, Christians were the MAJORITY in Lebanon.
THEN, with the usual kindness and persuasiveness (that is through homicide and terrorism) islam has found the way to become the majority.

And anyone who resists the invasion of islam MUST be an intolerant right-wing nut, of course.

Posted by: POITIERS-LEPANTO at September 24, 2006 2:58 PM

Gary wrote:

How did 500,000 hezbollah cronies suddenly become 800,000? Sounds like a Leftist march in Washington, the numbers just keep going ...............

Yeah, thanks, Gary--I noticed this myself. Did anyone even confirm the 500,00 figure? Some perspective: The entire (prewar) population of Beirut is a little over 1,500,000. For comparison to American cities, 500,000 in support of Hizb'allah is about the size of the entire population of Seattle, Washington, or Las Vegas, Nevada. 800,000 is larger than the entire population of *San Francisco*.
.............

From above:

Tens of thousands of right-wing Christians turned out at the tumultuous rally north of Beirut, in a show of strength two days after a massive gathering by the rival Muslim Shiite Hezbollah.
..............

Look how everything is done in this sentence to de-legitimize these people, who after all are just calling on Lebanese to stop engaging in unprovoked attacks on their neighbor. They are all "right-wing"--a kiss-of-death term. Others above have noted this also. Also, though, the rally was "tumultuous"--was it more tumoultuous than your average pro-Hizb'allah rally, which includes flag- or effigy-burnings and placards and chants calling for their enemies' deaths? Finally, it is a "show of strength", which sounds rather bellicose.

I know little about Samir Geagea, but he sounds like a brave man in this case.

Posted by: gravenimage at September 24, 2006 3:35 PM

Christian Right Wing?????

What the hell does right wing mean anymore?

Hezbollah is well to the right of Hitler!

Posted by: poetcomic1 at September 24, 2006 3:54 PM

During the Lebanese Civil War Eugene Ionesco noted -- it was written about in Encounter -- that "the paper everyone reads" in France used the forumulaic phrase "right-wing Christians" and Ionesco wondered aloud what the Christian villagers had done, exactly, to earn that fixed, Homeric epithet "right-wing." What they had done, of course, was to be Christians fighting Muslims, and Muslims are always to the left, always the underdog, always to be favored, not least in "the paper everyone reads" which was, and is, Le Monde.

Posted by: Hugh at September 24, 2006 4:15 PM

the problem with papers such as LeMonde does not realize is that muslim terrorists will kill non muslims regardless of what side of aisle you sit on.
l do not undertand how when one is a Christian you are labelled a conservative? Today's Catholic so called conservative would of been yesterday's liberals. To days liberals are wacky ACULU types, are facists to the core.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at September 24, 2006 4:39 PM

Hezbollah make Hitler look like a nun, they are totally insane and I mean chewing the carpet insane with the hidden imam and all that stupidness.

The Christians should rearm, Lebanon used to be a Christian country, that is what happens when you get the cancer of Islam invading your country.

The only option is to fight the Islamists.

Besides, the Marxists always add "right wing" to anyone who opposes suicide bombers and limb amputators.

Posted by: IceDragon at September 24, 2006 5:02 PM

The Christians should rearm, Lebanon used to be a Christian country, that is what happens when you get the cancer of Islam invading your country.

And the Phoenicians didn't even pay their newfound Moslems the AFDC, MedicAid, Section 8, SBA, Food Stamps, and other forms of Jizyah. They let them in and stood silenty as they bred on up (between man-boy homo-ped interludes, that is).

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at September 24, 2006 5:34 PM

Moslem rabid crazies always think they have 'god' on their side, while they keep losing. But if 'god' is on their side, and they lose badly, what else can they call it but 'victory'? That completes full circle of idiocy. Too bad IDF didn't finish them off.

Western liberal press always seem to side with the losers, which really makes sense as two European papers get kicked out of Egypt for 'deemed insult' for mildly suggesting the rabid crazies might be violent. How satanic must it get for the press to get it? Is the Left really so anti-western civilization, anti freedom, anti-religion (except Islam and Marx) that in their twisted minds they laud religious Islamic-fascism? How twisted! Oh, I get it, the violence represents only a 'tiny minority'. So, why do 500,000 rabid crazies turn out for Hizbollah rally burning effigies and chanting 'death death!', while only a fraction of 'right wing tumultuous' Christians take to the streets? How do these numbers square up with Left-brain-less journalists?

The Left Wing press should have their wings clipped to the bone, for supporting rabid fanatical Moslem fascist-imperialist Jihad ideology. Who funds them? Who buys their advertising space? Who reads their sickening bull? Of course the Lebanon war is a disaster. It just set the country back two decades. They cannot have an armed 'state within a state' and expect anything else. Why does the Leftist press not understand this? Must be puffin' the magic dragon. Maybe when the crazies fire bomb their offices, behead their editors, then they'll come out of their stupor. Perhaps Marxism and Islam don't mix? No, of course not, not that! They know they have 'god' on their side, for supporting the religious-cult Islamo-fascist crazies. Like their sickly Hizbollah rabid 'apes and pigs'..... Losers.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at September 24, 2006 5:44 PM

I know that muslims multiply like rabbits, but 500,000 to 800,000 boggles the mind. Actually I would be all for them keeping light weapons at home, as in the US ect, if they were not muslims and did not indulge themselves in a murderous philosophy and then act on it. An armed and unstable population is an armed and unstable population. As we can see with Islam armed instability is a threat to anyone in reach. Hezbollah is unstable by definition...The Party Of God must renounce agreements with Jews and anyone remotely connected to them. This means that they are not believable and are then unstable. You cant trust any individual, government, religion or nation that is in this condition. Hezbollah must dis-arm or be dis-armed. This is primarilly the responsibility of the Lebonese gov. If they need help, they should get it...

Posted by: duh_swami at September 24, 2006 5:47 PM

I know little about Samir Geagea, but he sounds like a brave man in this case. Posted by: gravenimage

Posted by: Infidel Pride at September 24, 2006 5:51 PM

Having met so many Lebanese & enjoyed the company of so many Lebanese friends over the years, what has happened to that beautiful country brings tears to my eyes. Most of these lovely people are Christian and now U.S. citizens who can probably never return to their beginnings. The best I can tell them is that they are welcome here, that my own family never thinks of returning to Scotland or Russia except perhaps as tourist, and that I'm sorry their country was taken over by such an evil group of people.

Posted by: InfidelProud at September 24, 2006 6:34 PM

Cometh the Hour, Cometh the Man

Posted by: Lumpy at September 24, 2006 6:38 PM

if the disarming of pigsbollah doesn't occur, we might hope for civil war to bring it to a head.. still, even then, whatever happens it looks like more shi'ite refugess coming here as a result...joy.

Posted by: frank_incensed at September 24, 2006 6:58 PM

Good for Ionesco! The true artist always rises above the muck, like a Flaubert.

Posted by: remote_control at September 24, 2006 7:47 PM

My crystal ball sez Mr. Geagea is a brave man.

It also sez he will most likely find himself car-bombed within the next few weeks...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 24, 2006 8:06 PM

Lebanon has been a mess for decades. Getting rid of Hezbollah would be a step in the right direction but that nation is still doomed. Islam in general is a menace and having a neighbor like Syria is certainly no help at all. One can only wish Lebanon luck because they need it.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at September 24, 2006 8:42 PM

Remember Lepanto. There is a force that is far greater than Satan. We cannot give in when it is in our power to see everything change, through prayer.

Lepanto was won through the power of prayer. The fight against Hezbollah in Lebanon, that is the fight that the Christians need to wage in order to bring defeat against the doers of evil, is to prayer. The story about Lepanto is that the people prayed the Rosary, and that at the eleventh hour as the battle was waging the prayer was answered and the forces of Satan were defeated.

I believe that turning to God, in prayer, will bring about the victories that all of us desire so much.

Just remember Lepanto.

p.s. I thought that the real figure was no more than about 300,000 rallying for Hezbollah, and even that figure is probably inflated.

Posted by: Maggie4Life at September 24, 2006 11:14 PM

Ionesco wrote Rhinoceros which is, among other things, a depiction of how people become inured to injustice, even comfortable with it, even accept it and participate in it if they are accepted into the oppressive group. The playwright meant to describe the slide towards Vichyism in France. But he could also be describing the current European sympathy for Islamic jihad, and lack of sympathy for the victims.

Infidel pride is right about how the West [including Bush Senior] allowed Lebanon to be taken over by Muslims, indeed, we might say that the West pushed Lebanon in that direction. Charles Malik, the famous Lebanese statesman and philosopher, blamed the West for the Lebanese civil war, naturally, in a very high-toned way.

LeMonde of course helped the process along with its description of the Christian Lebanese militias as "right-wing" [a Homeric epithet indeed]. Meanwhile, Le Monde and other French publications described the PLO and its allies as "palestino-progressistes." Since the PLO was progressive, it could do no wrong, obviously. Just bear in mind the link between LeMonde and the Quai d'Orsay.
The support of the Left, particularly Bolsheviks/Communists, for Muslim mass murderers goes back to the first months of Bolshevik control in Russia. See the link below.
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/10/bolsheviks-for-jihad-genocide-stalins.html

Ironically, in this the Bolshevik policy converged with the pro-Muslim, pro-Arab policy of certain British policy planners, such as Toynbee as the Royal Institute of Int'l Affairs.

Posted by: Eliyahu at September 25, 2006 11:37 AM

I first saw a report claiming 200,000 hezbollah supporters.
Considering the usual MSM trick of smoke and mirrors this can probably be halved at least.

Then it magically rose to 500,000
Now it seems they can multiply like cell dividers to 800,000.
I think they can't add up and it should by definiton be a million.

Are we all hezbollah now?

That is how a virus spreads through a body.
Thankfully i'm immunised.

Posted by: ovinesongs at September 25, 2006 11:59 AM

Why did the Israeli invasion forces, who had given permission to Marjayoun residents and the Lebanese soliders stationed there to leave the Christian stronghold of Marjayoun, who had even specified what roads they should use, then attack them with pilotless, missile-firing drone aircraft? Marjayoun had been the headquarters of the South Lebanon Army that had collaborated with the Israeli forces during the 18 year Israeli occupation of South Lebanon. When the town was taken over by Israeli troops and tanks during the recent invasion both the Israelis and Marjayoun’s inhabitants knew that Hizbollah's missiles would now be redirected from Israel on to Marjayoun itself. Why would the Israelis have bombed a mainly Christian Lebanese defenceless convoy of refugees?

It seems that the Israelis no longer have Christian allies in Lebanon. The Christian camp is now split between Samir Geagea, former head of the Lebanese Forces, who has become an ally of Druze and Sunni leaders in opposition to the country's former powerbrokers in Damascus, and General Michel Aoun who heads the Free Patriotic Movement that has forged a surprise alliance with the Damascus-backed Hezbollah.

I gleaned that information from this article at http://www.lebanese-forces.org/news/viewarticle.php?id=2856:

The Christian camp is itself split between Samir Geagea, former head of the Lebanese Forces, who has become an ally of Druze and Sunni leaders in opposition to the country's former powerbrokers in Damascus, and General Michel Aoun.

The general, who himself led an aborted "war of liberation" against the Syrians in 1989, heads a Free Patriotic Movement that has forged a surprise alliance with the Damascus-backed Hezbollah.

Maronite patriarch Nasrallah Sfeir, head of the largest Christian community in Lebanon, has been trying to walk a neutral line between Geagea and Aoun, whose forces clashed at the tail-end of the 1975-90 civil war.

But tensions are bound to rise with elections for a new president, a post reserved for a Maronite in Lebanon's confessional system, which are only 10 months away.

The Christians, who make up around 38 percent of Lebanon's 3.5-million population, lost many of their privileges with the signing of the 1989 Taif accords that brought the 15-year war to an end.

The president's role has been marginalized, with current pro-Syrian incumbent Emile Lahoud boycotted by the West.

The Shiites, who make up Lebanon's largest single community, feel their post of parliament speaker - held by Nabih Berri, leader of another Shiite group, Amal - does not give them enough of a say in the executive.

Richard Jereissati, 52, a former member of the National Liberal Party (NLP), said that "time is on the Shiites' side," with their numerical advantage over the Christians widening through demographic trends.

"The Christians have learnt nothing from the past. They continue to fight among themselves, through Geagea and Aoun," he said.

Maroun Helou, 52, a former colleague in the NLP and fighter during the civil war before becoming a successful businessman, said "the question of creating a new political force is being debated more and more by Christians" disappointed with their current leaders.

Young Christians have asked him to form a new organization that could take up arms if needed.

"But the time for all that is over. What we need is a multi-community movement to counter the growing religious antagonism that works against the Lebanese state," he said.

Firas Maaluly, a 26-year-old member of Christian group Saint Ilige, said that Christians needed "a real party, like Hezbollah or the Future Current of [Sunni leader] Saad Hariri with a vision for the country and that does not depend on alliances for its existence."

While acknowledging that Christian Phalangist militiamen carried out massacres during the civil war, student Teddy Aburjeily, 25, said "our idea is to conserve the flame of the Lebanese Christian resistance."

Hezbollah's war with Israel "was not our war. It's a party financed and armed by Syria and Iran. But nobody is supporting us," he lamented.

Simon Karam, a former ambassador to Washington, said that what the Christians were seeking was "a more efficient state," less organized along confessional lines.

"No community can or should dominate, otherwise that's the end of Lebanon as we know it," Karam warned.

Posted by: allborn.equal at September 25, 2006 6:24 PM