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September 29, 2006

"We vow to God that we will never recognise Israel even if we would be all killed"

Holding-Political-Power-Will-Exert-A-Moderating-Influence-On-Hamas Update: "Hamas rally in Gaza draws tens of thousands, denounces Israel," from Reuters, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

Tens of thousands of Hamas supporters held a peaceful rally in Gaza on Friday to denounce the state of Israel and declare that they would never recognize its right to exist.

"We ask God to punish the so-called Israel and the allies of Israel and to punish those who recognize Israel and those who called on us to recognize Israel," Hamas lawmaker Mushir al-Masri told the crowd that thronged the Jabalya refugee camp.

"We vow to God that we will never recognise Israel even if we would be all killed," Masri told the cheering audience of men, women and children, many of whom were wearing green Hamas baseball caps and held aloft Hamas banners.

Masri, a popular young lawmaker, also aimed criticism at Fatah, a rival movement headed by Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, saying it was trying to pressure Hamas, which now runs the Palestinian government, into recognizing Israel.

"Those people are demanding us openly to recognize the occupation and that will never happen," Masri said.

Posted by Robert at September 29, 2006 11:25 AM
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Well then, lets grant them their wish. They all want to be dead anyway. Better now than later, before they kill a bunch more of us.

Posted by: n.a. palm [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 11:39 AM

I wonder why a lot of people still view Islam and the majority of Muslims to be peaceful. Likewise, it is strange why a lot of people claim that this religion has only been hijacked by Islamic extremist. The obvious thing is there is not a day where we see Muslims all around the world calling for the destruction of Israel, the West and every living creature that offends their prophet and their so-called religion of piece. Many people, particularly the main stream media, have a sense of denial regarding this fact when it is clear that Muslims wants to rule and dominate the world in the name of religion.

Posted by: elbowroom [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 11:56 AM

Okay -

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Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 11:56 AM

Let's see, Israel was created in 1948. That means some three generations are clamoring for the return of their "homeland". Why didn't those who were immediately displaced by Israel's birth move to another Arab country? After all, they all speak the same language and share the same cult. Simple- keeping these people in a permanent refugee status gave all those Arab governments an excuse to use Israel as a bogeyman ("see what they've done to our brothers") in order to deflect domestic criticism. The next generations, being brainwashed by the story of "The Disaster"
(as Israel's creation is called) continued right to the present to serve as a convenient pawn. After the first generation of refugees, the ensuing ones have no "right of return" as they claim since they weren't even born when "their" land was "stolen". These later generations could have moved elsewhere (even to the all welcoming West) and built constructive lives but instead they remained obsessed with "returning". In other words, these people preferred victimhood, egged on by the Islamaniacs. Now we're to feel sorry for them because after all, Israel occupies their
now mythical homeland. These people CAN'T recognize Israel because that would end the pipe dream of "returning home". And even if they would reconcile themselves to reality the Islamaniacs won't let them because Israel is the perfect bogeyman-a successful democracy in the middle of poverty stricken, corrupt police states which is too much to bear. It's always easier to whine about being a victim than to get off the floor and do something useful for yourself- and if there's something these kooks excel at it's playing the victim.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 11:58 AM

Sounds like a peaceful rally after the friday spew. n.a. palm I agree. Israel missed out again.

Posted by: BIRDDDOG [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 11:58 AM

So Palestinians will continue to rot in their hell hole.

And it's all the fault of who?

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 12:12 PM

"We ask God to punish the so-called Israel and the allies of Israel and to punish those who recognize Israel and those who called on us to recognize Israel."

And Allah said no. Allah hates Muslims. Observe the wretchedness of their lives. Surely Allah is all-knowing and wise.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 12:15 PM

What occupation?

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 12:16 PM

We vow to God that we will never recognise Israel even if we would be all killed

That's a tautology. But testing the hypothesis, questioning assumptions, is never a bad idea.

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 12:18 PM

Mussolini speaking from the balcony at Palazzo Venezia:

"Do you want butter or cannon ?"

And the crowd, delirious : "Cannon !"

And they got them.
Up t[DELETED BY P-L].

Posted by: POITIERS-LEPANTO [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 12:42 PM

How curious indeed that the entire world is expected by Muslims to accept Islamic occupation of many areas of the world: Turkey, formerly Greece, northern Africa formerly homeland of the Berbers, western New Guinea, homeland of endangered Papuan tribes, Pakistan, formerly Hindustan, Sudan, homeland of the Nubian-Kush civilization,and many other areas of the world. I have read that Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam exists as part of a plot to forcibly surrender US territory to the Islamosphere for Muslim occupation.

No one really has any obligation to accept Islamic occupation of any part of the globe. Why should we? Muslims will attack us even if we did accept their occupying of much of the globe. But, one has to wonder, who or what these people think they're praying and making vows to, it certainly isn't "God." Or, has all this idiocy been caused by the effects on the brain caused by the camel poop these folks so relish smoking?

And, by the way, there has been a Jewish constituency in what is now Israel for only about the past three thousand years or so. Arabs would have us believe that the Jews have stolen and are occupying their own territory!

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 12:54 PM

Israel must get rid of the spinesless Olemart and bring in a new military leadership preferably made up of veterans of wars that dealt directly with this type of scum. Do what must be done to ptotect their people and culture. To hell with world opinion. No matter what Israel does, they seem to be hated anyway.

Posted by: Briars [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 1:04 PM

"held a peaceful rally to denounce the state of Israel"

Sounds like a contradiction in terms to me!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 1:20 PM

I seem to recall that both the Imam Jorge al'Dubya and his 'twin brain' Miss Condi were prattling on about how Hamas would be far too busy fixing potholes, building schools and hospitals to bother with things like this. I think Imam Toni Blairistani issued a similar fatwa of folly about the ascension of Hamas.

It just gets better all the time. We're drowning in utter PC folly. We need some serious regime change around here (and I'm not talking about the Dhimmicrats, either).

Posted by: Carolus [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 1:45 PM

The Israelis need a new business model. The Palestinian Arabs have been at war with Israel since its founding in 1948 in a relentless effort to eradicate the country and kill or subjugate the Jews.

Yet the debate is entirely framed around terms like "Occupation", "Oppression", "Humiliation", "Humanitarian Crisis", "Collective Punishment", "Land Grab", "Apartheid"... the BBC has even begun to use the term "Terror" to describe Israeli military operations.

Here's my 2 cents:

1) In all speeches, interviews, etc by Israeli public officials, the Palestinian Arabs should be referred to as "Palestinian Arabs" not "Palestinians", "the Palestinian People", etc.

2) The next Israeli PM (not Olmert, the Stan Laurel of politics, as he is on his way out) must issue a formal statement in front of the world media that indeed, the Palestinian Arabs under the Hamas government have -- by virtue of their Charter calling for the eradication of Israel and their slaughter of hundreds of Israeli citizens in bombing and shooting attacks -- declared war on the state of Israel.

3) As a result of number 2 above, Israel will take all military action necessary to defend her citizens and defeat the Palestinian Arabs until such time as all Hamas officials are either killed or formally surrender to Israeli authorities, all militias are disbanded and weapons surrendered, and Palestinian Arab media and schools are fully reformed with a new narrative and doctrine installed. Failing these outcomes, the war will continue (that's "W-A-R" as in Dresden, not the police actions currently favored by the IDF) until all Palestinian communities have been turned to rubble and the remaining Arabs forced to emigrate to other Muslim countries.

All the US has to do, is run interference at the UN for the week or so it would take the IDF to complete this project.

Hamas will have received its death wish and a new era can begin in the Middle East where Israeli Jews and Arabs can move forward in a civil society governed by laws and politics, rather than suicide bombs.

Posted by: Charles Martel [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 2:04 PM

"Recent advertisements in television and in media about my nation of Kazakhstan saying that women are treated equally and that all religions are tolerated. These are disgusting fabrications." - Sacha Baron Cohen, AKA "Borat"

Hit the nail pretty much on the head wouldn't you say? Just replace "Kazakhstan" with whichever muslim state is flavour of the day.

Posted by: Uriel Septim [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 2:07 PM

We should be in total agreement with their request and send them on to "allah" asap.

Posted by: Constantine [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 2:07 PM

This hatred of the Jews is built-in in the religion of Islam. The Qur'an and the hadiths do not give much room for a Muslim to wiggle:

We have cast among them enmity and hatred till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguisheth it. Their effort is for corruption in the land, and Allah loveth not corrupters. (Sura 5:64)
(Muhammad said:) The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews. (Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6985)

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants to annihiliate Israel. Hamas wants to. Even "moderate Muslims" in places like Malaysia wants to do the same.

The Bible paints a dire picture of Israel, too,
on the coming onslaught from the Muslims.

Al-Mahdi & Antichrist.

Posted by: yaqub [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 2:21 PM

"We vow to God that we will never recognise Israel even if we would be all killed"

Yeah. There is a real future in that kind of thinking. I no longer refer to the belief-system known as Islam by that name. I now call it "bigbaby-ism" where wishes become fishes. There is little or no logic in this kind of mind and they probably all will be killed.

Folks would think that the Saudis etc., with all that oil money, would be building MITs, great universities dedicated to the humanities, to science, to reason-but instead Islamic culture produces demented minds such as that quoted above, and on top of that, they want to bring their childish (let's throw a tantrum) minds to the whole world.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 2:38 PM

If you fight them on the ground then the Imams will feed an endless supply of moronic bullet stoppers into the battle and you can’t win. If you call them names they jump up and down with their teeth bared and scream and shout threats to remind us that they are violent.

But the fuel is the media. If the MSM didn’t cover their protests in Arseholistan then the Imams would largely stop bothering with Friday after prayer riots.

Then again if we do wrong the MSM get out their Witch Finder General cloaks and go after American and British soldiers like they are the devil incarnate.

If the media had kept its nose out of the Israeli- Hezbollah war then Israel would have pasted Hezbollah and shut them up for another ten years.

What I would like to know is why we give the media access to battlefields? Your average reporter is not trained to be amongst the fighters and invariably has to rely on the soldiers in the area to save them when the shit hits the fan…

One example is John Simpson of the BBC. He took an Iraqi civilian along as an interpreter, and when their convoy of military and press vehicles that looked a lot like many other targets on the ground got hit, the interpreter died.

Simpson’s sorrow came from the fact that an American pilot may have mistaken his convoy of 4x4’s for the enemy. So why were Civilians from the press travelling across a battlefield? If Simpson hadn’t been so keen to get to the front lines, that Interpreter would be alive. In truth a man died because the BBC must be the story.

So I say screw em. When Omar Brookes says he’s going to change Britain to his liking, so what? If he said it on the street in front of me then I would break his nose. He isn’t a world power. He’s just another dickhead in a long line of dickheads who can command time from the MSM. His type is better ignored.



Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 3:02 PM

we will never recognise Israel even if we would be all killed,

well at least Israel can accept the death of Hammas, they want to die, let them have their wish, you know Hammas should be careful for what they wish for, for they just might get it!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 3:05 PM

The beginning of yom kippur is on sunday and why do I for some reason fear another war will start?

Posted by: Purple Haze [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 3:46 PM

We are in a great position. They may be flooding Europe. But they are losing out in Africa and South America. Terrorism is making them look bad in the eyes of the world, so is the Cartoon and Pope crap.

Contrary to popular belief we are not tied to our particular governments either, we can vote them out regularly, unlike the poor bastards in the Middle East who are stuck with their despots for ever. This means that if we survive long enough then we will eventually get the leaders that we need.

The Leftist League of Evil Scumbags may have the Labour party sewn up, and most of the Universities. But when the shit really hits the fan nobody turns to a lentil eating pacifist to save the world.

Islam as suffered from premature ejaculation. It is coming so fast it can’t stop. If they had played happy neighbours for another fifty years they could have had democracy on a plate. Now the best they can hope for is Muslim ghettos in Europe that will forever exist under the threat of nationalist violence.

What’s the chance that a right wing government is going to allow Muslim enclaves in a country as small as Britain with nearly 100 million people resident?

Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 5:56 PM

Genesis 12:3 -

"I will bless those who bless you (Israel), and I will curse those who curse you (Israel)."

Not lookin' too good for Hamas!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 6:11 PM

Purple Haze ~

October 2nd this year is significant to both the Jews and Islime.

Saladin recaptured Jerusalem on October 2, 1187, after 88 years of Crusader rule. The name Salah ad Din means "Light of the Faith," "Righteousness of the Faith" or "Weapon of the Faith," and through the ages Saladin has been an inspiration for Muslims in many respects.

This year October 2nd is Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement.) I believe this is Spiritual War. Whatever happens on that Day I believe The "One True God" The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will show himself as such to the world.

God Bless the USA and Israel :)

Posted by: njreed [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 6:21 PM

Sorry - Correction

Yom Kippur BEGINS at sundown on Sunday Oct. 1st.

Posted by: njreed [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 6:28 PM
We vow to [Allah] that we will never recognise Israel even if we would be all killed

Assuming that is true, and I see no reason to doubt it, what does that tell us about how to go about ending the constant attacks on Israel? What is the logical inference that one can draw from this statement?

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 6:46 PM

njreed -

Huh -- that's an interesting coincidence on the dates you mentioned. Well, we'll find out soon enough what God has planned.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 6:57 PM

Yeah I always find it better to ignore anybody who believes the world is not going to end next year as well.

There is a world of reasons why the like of Omar Brookes wont take over Britain. But if you are looking for reasons to call, then you will find hate everywhere you look.

Britain is not doomed.

Posted by: Mert [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2006 8:50 PM

Dear Charles Martel:

Right on. I totally agree with you.

Posted by: Monkeywho [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 30, 2006 2:08 AM

You are ISRAEL's BIOTCH!!!!

They ARE RUNNING THEIR GAME ON your lazy pislamic asses!!

pislam ist SCHWEINESCHEI**E!!!

SHAME on those weak Germans who give in at this time!! NOT ALL OF US ARE LIKE THAT!! They ar etraitors not only to Germany but to the FREE WEST and all FREE PEOPLES of this WORLD!!

SCREW PISLAM:

WHEN IN DOUBT - THROW THEM OUT!!!

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 30, 2006 5:14 AM

Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nahh!!..

ISRAEL is there to **STAY** TO FUC*ING STAY you lowly swine.
ISRAEL has ** NO ** OIL.. YET LOOK what THEY have ACHIEVED!! IN the face of terror they have BUILT a MIGHTY NATION in the FACE OF EVIL!!!

A NATION BUILT ON KNOWLEDGE AND ON SCIENCE.

Up yours, pislamisists!!! Take it like a bi*tch!!

Islam = SALIERI
WEST = MOZART

beavis & butthead are DIVINE and they FART in the face of mahome or whatever that pedofile is called.

EUROPE UNITE!!
ISRAEL IS EUROPE TOO - ** NOT ** turkey!!

SHALOM ERETZ ISRAEL!!! Screw the Euro left-wing!
Their days are **NUMBERED**

ISRAEL please have FAITH - We owe YOU much!! And we shall be there to repay you as best we can! Some of us do know the true responsability of our tragic bond-in-blood and WE also know YOU are on the side of GOOD besides all that!!

WE SHAN'T LET YOU DOWN!! forget our present-day politicians.. the time HAS COME!!

Quislings and Chamberlains shall be swept from our midst like dolphgin droppings from the acquarium.

FOOK the moosleems.. ISRAEL.. LA'CHAIEM!!! Good will be upon YOU!!

I cannot remake History and undo the Shoah.. but I CAN pledge my allegiance to the Jewish People for NOW and FOREVER.

And I can pledge my allegiance to all non-moslems seeking to live in FREEDOM.. WORLDWIDE!!

SCREW PISLAM:

WHEN IN DOUBT - THROW THEM OUT!!!

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 30, 2006 5:27 AM

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