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Today's Jihad Watch videoblog at Hotair deals with the strange contradictions of the death threats against French philosophy teacher Robert Redeker.
Posted by Robert at October 5, 2006 10:42 AM
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“Obsession: Radical Islam’s war against the West”
“Obsession” is available again.
It was available for a while on google and then mysteriously disappeared. It is back!
“Obsession” is I think, one of the most important political films ever made.
The film is available in it’s entirety here.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-692071627799119020&q=obsession+islam
It is just as important as “An inconvenient truth.”
You will need broadband to watch this.
Email the website address onto all the people in your address book who you think will benefit from watching it.
(Be careful who you send it to; you do not want to provoke a backlash)
Having said that, I think that the vast majority of all the points made in it are fair.
at October 5, 2006 10:49 AM
WOW
WOW
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Far-right party calls for Jews to join war on Islam
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article1799460.ece
By Stephen Castle in Antwerp
Published: 05 October 2006
One of Europe's most successful far-right leaders has appealed to Jewish voters to join forces against radical Islam and back a party denounced as xenophobic.
Filip Dewinter, leader of Belgium's Vlaams Belang, described Antwerp's large Jewish community as natural partners "against the main enemy of the moment, the radical Islam, fundamentalism".
He called for radical Islam to be denied official recognition and its supporters, and those who fail to integrate, denied Belgian nationality and possibly social security payments.
In a series of interviews yesterday Mr Dewinter raised the temperature in Antwerp, which has a large Jewish community living alongside thousands of Muslim immigrants.
"In the Jewish community we have about 30 to 35 per cent of the vote," said Mr Dewinter. "That's official because we know our score over there in the Jewish neighbourhood." Mr Dewinter denied any responsibility for inciting racial attacks and said that his opponents had found that "demonisation is necessary to maintain the cordon sanitaire against us".
Mr Dewinter said: "If they won't accept our way of life, if they won't accept those principles which are very clear and very necessary for Western democracy, I don't think we have to recognise Islam as an official religion in our country."
One of Europe's most successful far-right leaders has appealed to Jewish voters to join forces against radical Islam and back a party denounced as xenophobic.
He called for radical Islam to be denied official recognition and its supporters, and those who fail to integrate, denied Belgian nationality and possibly social security payments.
"In the Jewish community we have about 30 to 35 per cent of the vote," said Mr Dewinter. "That's official because we know our score over there in the Jewish neighbourhood." Mr Dewinter denied any responsibility for inciting racial attacks and said that his opponents had found that "demonisation is necessary to maintain the cordon sanitaire against us".
at October 5, 2006 11:01 AM
BRITAIN IS WAKING UP
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5410472.stm
Straw asks Muslims to remove veil
Mr Straw: Covering faces makes good community relations difficult
Muslim women in the UK who wear full veils make "better, positive relations" between communities "more difficult", Commons leader Jack Straw has said.
Concealing a face was "a visible statement of separation and of difference", the Blackburn MP wrote in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph.
He said he now asks women who have meetings with him to remove their veils so they can truly talk "face-to-face".
"My concerns could be misplaced, but I think there is an issue here," he said.
Posted by: Churchill1939
at October 5, 2006 11:30 AM
Obsession: Radical Islam’s war against the West is a great documentary. A real eye opener to those that are in the dark about Islam. I, also, recommend watching it.
For those that are interested here is some highlights from Juan José Escobar Stemmann's piece on the Jihad in Europe linked to Salafism
Posted by: blackdogbrigade
at October 5, 2006 11:36 AM
More truths about Mohammed......Great clip Robert!!!
Posted by: Bonniea
at October 5, 2006 11:42 AM
I have a copy of Obsession as an MP4 file. Anyone may download a copy for themselves by emailing me and requesting the URL where the movie is located. Of course you'll have to convince me that you won't be cutting off my head soon, or raping members of my family, or throwing stones at me, or blowing yourself up anywhere near me, or cutting off my wife's clitoris, or kidnapping anyone I know, or bombing any churches around here, or setting fire to any buildings around here, or opening fire in a movie theater I'm in, or or or or
Come to think of it, never mind. get your own copy.
Posted by: Art Cove
at October 5, 2006 12:04 PM
Hey folks,
does anyone have a website address for "Relentless?"
I haven't seen it.
I know it sounds like an Alfred Hitchcock film but I assume it is about radical Islam!
It would be great if it you could post the shortcut here.
Posted by: Odyessus
at October 5, 2006 1:03 PM
Everyone concerned should send an email to Robert Redeker directly to his website for a show of support. It is in the "Contacts" button.
http://www.robertredeker.net/accueil.htm
He really appreciated my message of support and courage I sent three days ago. I am sure his email box is full of emails (many probably threatening him) but we need to show that they are average people in America that support him.
Posted by: sammish
at October 5, 2006 1:09 PM
Well at least the people of Florida are doing the right thing.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004958987
Posted by: ethoman
at October 5, 2006 1:52 PM
Excellent video clip, Robert, and great delivery. It radiated that really neat Rod Serling (Twilight Zone) aura.
Posted by: Stendec
at October 5, 2006 2:07 PM
If you wish to sign a petition supporting Robert Redeker go here.
http://www.resiliencetv.fr/modules/epetitions/petitions.php?petitionid=14
Perhaps someone who is fluent in French could translate exactly what the petition says.
Posted by: Odyessus
at October 5, 2006 2:23 PM
Robert-
Excellent. It's a great Paul Harvey style approach that folks love. Too bad it's not a Savage weekly feature or a Paul Harvey mid-day feature.
BTW, it's occurred to me that Mohammad was not so much a prophet as a Stenographer since he claimed to take dictation (via Gabriel) from God. Prophets (such as Isaiah)foretell future events. (As you know, Isaiah wasn't claiming to be taking dictation. Isaiah spoke as a human who was viewed as inspired by God in his warnings that Israel should repent.)
Shouldn't Mohammad be called the Stenographer Mohammad, among other things?
Posted by: Frank
at October 5, 2006 2:25 PM
ethoman, the "people" of Florida includes their lawmakers, representatives and police force. From your link:
Police immediatly responded and searched the area for suspects but found none. Local authorities called in the FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force a spolice spokesperson said.
Melbourne police are working with members of the Brevard County Muslim Islamic Society to begin extra patrols of the mosque.
"We (the Islamic Council) plan to meet with authorities in Melbourne to ask them to classify the incident as a hate crime.
In the West, PC is stronger than the people -- in great part because the majority of the people are PC. The perpetrators of this Florida incident are likely an eensy-weensy minority and don't reflect the majority.
Posted by: remote_control
at October 5, 2006 2:52 PM
remote_control-
It could also be a set-up. It could be that it never occurred and it was claimed to have occurred or it was a Muslim who did it to manufacture a "hate crime" that the Hooper-deceiver grasped eagerly. (I wonder when Hooper is going to protest the genocide in Darfur?) Run from Reality Hooper is as phony as a $3.00 bill. I'll bet he skedaddles when Robert is around. He's very frightened of questions or of anyone who sees through him. He hits and runs. Bet on it.
Posted by: Frank
at October 5, 2006 3:25 PM
remote_controll,
True enough, but I wonder how many saw this and recognized it for what it was. People are aware of the threat within their midst. As this threat grows by example in European societies you will see more and more acts by vigilantes. First of all this is America we will not let our country be turned into some sort of Middle Eastern crap hole like the Euros have let their counties go. We will not be threatened or Dhimmified, we are not French. Just wait and see. It pains me to say it, but it seems inevitable.
Posted by: ethoman
at October 5, 2006 3:28 PM
Redeker and his family should be given asylum in the US.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at October 5, 2006 4:04 PM
Ronbert Spencer wtrote : It was unclear what exactly those who are threatening Redeker are upset about. Were they contending that he had lied about Muhammad?
It is not what you Mr Spencer and Robert Redeker have said anything that is untrue about Mohammed that offends the Ummah. It is the implicit criticism of Mohammed, that is the issue here. If OTH you admired these very same characteristics of Mohammed, there would be no trouble at all.
Posted by: DP111
at October 5, 2006 4:24 PM
The Prophet told the Quraysh tribe: ‘I have brought slaughter upon you,’ making this gesture. But these are religious issues that may be disputed….[T]he Prophet drove nails into and gouged out the eyes of people from the ‘Urayna Tribe. They were merely a group of thieves who stole from sheep herders, and the Prophet drove nails into them and threw them into the Al-Hrara area, and left them there to die. He blinded them and cut off their opposite legs and arms. This is what the Prophet did on a trifling matter – let alone in war.
So here goes.
Wow. What a great man. An example for all men, past, present and future. We should all try and be like him.
at October 5, 2006 4:31 PM
Frank, muhammad wasn't even a stenographer; he could not read or write. His faithful "companions" recorded the revelations on rocks, leaves, scraps of cloth, or whatever was available. Even if muhammad's dreams and delusions were revelations from allah via Gabriel, it is very unlikely that they were accurately recorded, preserved, and compiled. The companions went their separate ways after muhammd's death and allegedly met years later to compile the revelations. Some of them died in the interim, so their information was lost.
The Qur'an was written many years after muhammad's death by mortal, ambitious Arabs, and it was edited and revised many times. While muslims accept everything pertaining to their bizarre religion as being perfectly logical, there is no way the Qur'an could be an accurate account of muhammad's putative revelations, regardless of where or from whom they originated.
at October 5, 2006 9:57 PM
The Florida incident is a muslim false flag op.
The muslims are exactly guilty of that which they accuse the Jews of (false flag).
Something that is du jour for that gang of morons and murderers, If you peruse websites that have an abundance of muslims (NAZI's and dhimmis, which I suggest because you benefit and learn from listening to their party line, lies, accusations and complaints..there is no profit at all in tuning into the preacher. if you know who you are and what is correct, you don't need to hear the voice of a choir or a preacher), such as Liberty forum
you will learn a lot about the mentality and tactics, the lies, and strategy of muslims and those that they dupe or who consider them an ally against the Jew..err "Zionist" in their obfuscating world.
at October 5, 2006 11:09 PM
Guys,
You can order this movie here:
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/
I think it is about $US20. No idea of the P and H overseas, but $US6.24 in the US. I emailed and asked them, but got no reply so a friend in the US is getting it for me.
Also,,"Relentless" is available here:
http://www.honestreporting.com/relentless/new_version/
I would guess costs could be similar.
Hope that helps.
at October 5, 2006 11:35 PM
Robert Redeker wrote an article in which he characterized the Muslim prophet Muhammad as “a merciless war chief, plunderer, slaughterer of Jews and a polygamist.”
It has been pointed out that neither Mr. Redeker nor Mr. Spencer have said *anything* about Mohammed and the Koran that admiring Muslims have not said themselves. Both used only widely accepted Islamic texts. Wither then the rage?
I think there are three main points. Firstly, that Muslims do not want to see infidels interpreting the Koran or commenting on Mohammed *in any way*. Hence in part the insistance that only Muslims or those who read Classical Arabic can even begin to understand the complexities of the Koran. While there are some disagreements between various Biblical scholars and historians, no Jew or Christian insists that readers of the Torah or the Bible must read the original in ancient Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic.
Secondly, while the facts are not in dispute, the tone is. Most Muslims consider Mohammed to be the prefect man. A merciless war chief, plunderer, slaughterer of Jews and a polygamist, yes, but in a "good way".
Most non-Muslims are not admiring of these traits--in fact, they are rather horrified by his slaughter of inoffensive farmers, habit of attacking at dawn or in dark of night, taking of booty (a Surah of the Koran is even called "The Spoils"!), pressing captives into slavery, raping slave girls, and marrying multiple wives, including a six year old child. This lack of admiration is not considered acceptable, and is certainly not good Dhimmi behavior.
Thirdly, I think the rage comes from the fact that the words of Mr. Redeker, Mr. Spencer, Oriana Fallaci and others are meant to *warn* the West. There are a few hard-line Muslims who get angry at attempts in the West to soften the image of Islam (like those who rail aginst the view of Jihad as simply a spiritual journey rather than Holy War), but they are rather rare.
Why? Because I think most hard line Muslims, those set on destroying the non-Muslim world, find it useful if the West is lulled into a false sense of security about the *peaceful* nature of Islam, the Koran, and Mohammed himself.
Certainly, reading these author's work is quite an effective warning!
Posted by: gravenimage
at October 6, 2006 12:49 AM
Good video Robert I will enjoy watching those through Hot Air thanks.
On another point, do you reckon the camera is making you look fat?
Thats of course why i dont record my own anti jihad web speech every week
Posted by: payingattention
at October 6, 2006 1:24 AM
Naa man. Spencer is a machine, a gangsta. Kick any and all ass. Word. Hahaha :-)
Posted by: TheVoiceofTruth
at October 6, 2006 2:38 AM
Odyessus
Thank you so much for the link to OBSESSION.
I just downloaded it and watched.
No other film i have aeen illustrates better the huge problems we face from radical Islam.
As the german hitler youth commander said, it is far far worse than the threat of nazism
It is superb and i sincerely hope it gets masses of exposure.
All the films is made from the ISLAMISTS own videos so it cannot be held to e propaganda by the great satan by any reasonable person.
This should be compulsory viewing in Schools thoughtout the western world.
I hope Spencer will advertise it on this site!
at October 6, 2006 4:12 AM
Robert
It was great to see you.
you are doing a wonderful job, and more importantly,,you are reaching the 4 corners of the world!
at October 6, 2006 6:08 AM
Mr. Spencer,
I take some solace in seeing that unlike poor, soft, chubby "Salman R." ...
No, wait...that's too indiscreet.
Unlike poor "S. Rushdie", you look perfectly capable of defending yourself, should some frothing Mohammetan successfully infiltrate the SULV police department and actually locate you.
Hashem Yishmor you should actually have to deal with these maniacs with your own hands, but it looks like you'll be OK.
Posted by: LC TripleNeckSteel
at October 6, 2006 6:33 AM
I'm sorry- did I use the horrifyingly anachronistic term "Mohammetan"?
I beg your collective forgiveness, JWers...
I meant "Slave of Allah".
Posted by: LC TripleNeckSteel
at October 6, 2006 6:37 AM
"Obsession" should be required viewing for every politician in Europe, the USA and Canada. And how about all the members of the European Union ? And the United Nations ?
Maybe then the reality of this threat would begin to sink in.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
at October 6, 2006 12:01 PM
Excellent commentary Robert. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: The Goobs
at October 6, 2006 3:49 PM
Excellent as always, Mr. Spencer. However, does anyone else flinch at the caption under the picture above? There are some things I'm not comfortable joking about, and Mr. Spencer's safety is one of them. I worry about this, and I wish he had bodyguards. Sorry, it's just the Jewish mother gene kicking in - it's my God-appointed duty to worry.
Posted by: libbysmom
at October 6, 2006 3:55 PM
To Gramfan, Chevalier de st george and others
Glad to see you are spreading the word on “Obsession”
Tell people that this is perhaps the most important hour of film-watching they may ever do in their lives.
That is certainly how I felt watching it.
If it OK with the moderators I will occasionally re-post the link.
That is as long as Google does not censor the film.
(Why cannot some rich person buy up Google and stop them censoring anti-jihad videos?)
Can anyone tell me why, if people are watching this film the counter never updates?
On my computer the website says 2030 views, 681 yesterday, originally posted 29th September 2006.
Why does it never change?
Incidentally it would be great if JihadWatch contained a counter so that we know how many people are visiting the site.
It would also be good if the counter broke down the visitors by country.
I am convinced that this message is getting through to some people i.e. the Americans but not to others i.e. the British.
For instance, look at the sales ranking of Robert Spencer’s new book “The truth about Muhammad.”
On Amazon.com, the American Website, the sales ranking is 107th.
On Amazon.co.uk, the British Website, the sales ranking is 5,322th !
Also I was disturbed to find that Robert Spencer’s books are not available on the French Amazon website. They have not been translated!
The website www.faithfreedom.org/ has a deliberate policy of offering it’s writings in a number of languages, including French and Arabic.
If JihadWatch is going to reach the four corners of the globe surely it must do the same!
at October 7, 2006 8:30 AM
Another thought.
It has been estimated that 49% of British people never read a book.
In the USA the figure is approximately the same.
Most people in the West will probably never read a book by Robert Spencer which is why the medium of a film is so important.
I see from the “Obsession” website that there will be director’s cut edition. The director actually admitted that they cut out some of the stronger scenes. I will have to buy that.
at October 7, 2006 8:31 AM
After watching “Obsession” you should watch “Islam: What the West needs to know.”
The entire video of “Islam: What the West needs to know” is currently available on Google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7044941037235756025&q=%22what+the+west+needs%22&hl=en
“In Europe the truth is so terrible that we are in
denial. Perhaps it is understandable. We simply do not wish to face the
fact that we really are threatened by a vast fifth column - that there
are thousands of European born people, in Britain, in France, in
Holland, in Denmark - everywhere - who wish to destroy us. They are
part of a wider war, what Tony Blair rightly calls an "arc of extremism"
- Islamist extremism. “
-William Shawcross
at October 7, 2006 9:31 AM
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