I hape you are all aware the reason for this crackdown,

"Scotland Yard are to clamp down on Islamist extremists demonstrating in London following a series of complaints that radicals are being allowed to break the law, and are misrepresenting the views of the Muslim community. "

..........seems MUSLIMS have been complaining

they don;t give a damn if Christians and Jews complain

Posted by: charleston at October 7, 2006 5:32 PM

Oh no, we wouldn't want them "misrepresenting the views of the Muslim community", many of whom are at odds with Hizb ut-Tahrir solely because their motives are too transparent.

Inverted dhimmitude, one could call it.

Posted by: Null at October 7, 2006 5:37 PM

Imagine how the British police feel, they now have the power to stare sternly at the lawbreakers, a few more riots and they will be allowed to use harsh language and hold up a pair of handcuffs in a threatning manor. Oh, happy days, this is what police work is all about.

If we can get some of these outset muslims on film we can release "muslims gone wild" parts 1 - 1000.

Posted by: Ronin at October 7, 2006 5:44 PM

"A team of specialist lawyers is also to be created to help the police prosecute radicals,"

[A team of specialist lawyers]

I assume this means lawyers with no families (wife or children) that could be threatend by radical muslims.

Go'in Eliot Ness on them.

Posted by: thehappyinfidel at October 7, 2006 5:45 PM

But Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, Britain's most senior Asian officer, who is in charge of policing demonstrations in London, said: "I'm getting frustrated that these people are using public demonstrations to express their extremist views - and that causes a huge amount of concern among Muslims and other communities.

This is just a holding operation, a kind of 'Hudna' if you like. Muslims are concerned of a wider backlash, such as the BNP getting elected, and this is what this is all about.

Posted by: DP111 at October 7, 2006 6:02 PM

i have a nasty feeling that an another attack on the UK is going to be attempted very soon. i am being a bit irrational on this, but i cannot help remembering that Sir Ian Blair's 'envy of the policing world' interview was broadcast just before the 7/7 bombings and that Tarique Ghaffur's Islamophobia speech was made only a few days before the breaking of the liquid bomb plot.
more seriously, we have recently seen some signs that the natives are growing restless (in the widespread support for Jack Straw's recent comments, for example), and Islam's young men in a hurry will want to spill some blood to keep the dhimmification process moving in the right direction.
as Blurry and Guffy don't seem to have been able to incapacitate the Anti-Terrorist Branch yet, i have some hope that what we may see is another failed plot rather than a successful bombing, but it may be a close-run thing.

Posted by: M Al-Content at October 7, 2006 6:03 PM

Editorial from National Post in Canada says:

Pakistan No Ally

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=c8bb349c-fa4d-4eda-957d-fd8f9758a959

Posted by: sanman at October 7, 2006 6:05 PM

I want to see the next lot of placard carrying mask wearers given the same treatment that white party animals are given in a field on a Saturday night.

I want helicopters in the sky, and Alsatian attack dogs followed up by baton charges.

If three hundred people having a party in a field is worth Stalinist police actions then I fail to see why Muslims threatening to kill us all and threatening worshippers out side Saint Pauls Cathedral do not deserve the same.

Posted by: Mert at October 7, 2006 6:28 PM

"I trust that soon Tarique Ghaffur will be presenting a comprehensive Islamic refutation of the jihad ideology, and I very much look forward to seeing it."

Don't bet your book earnings on it, Bob!....:-[....

Posted by: Oiznop at October 7, 2006 6:55 PM

Wut woe...

We're getting mad now...

We're getting real mad...

Now, instead of just standing by doing nothing, we the Police, henceforth, will stand by doing nothing while issuing THREATS!

That'll teach 'em. Scare'um, too!

Posted by: SCV at October 7, 2006 7:00 PM

If their is anything to thism we will hear the squeals from the mainstream muslims community as those who dont represent the muslim community are carted off to the hoosegaul.
This project will come to a skreaching halt by the end of next week.

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at October 7, 2006 7:03 PM

I recommend a series of empty threats follwed by a program of emptier threats

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at October 7, 2006 7:05 PM

Don't hold your breath folks-Dhimmi Government may ramp up
Rhetoric but that's about it-Labour wants to hang on to power.However there are signs the Natives are getting RESTLESS-that the overwhelming NON MUSLIM MAJORITY can't or won't take much more of Muslim arrogance and tax funding of their mortal enemies-all these murderous Muslim Clerics demanding welfare payments for themselves plus huge broods of kids & burqa clad plural wives...Also believe more attacks are planned on Londonistan and Muslim infested Midlands.THERE WILL BE FIGHTING IN THE STREETS AND SOON ENOUGH BRITAIN WILL RESEMBLE A THIRD WORLD HELLHOLE LIKE KOSOVO OR GAZA STRIP.
Would like to know true number of INVADERS & their bloody MOSQUES in Britain rather than the lying stats Blair & Co admit to-???

Posted by: Morgane at October 7, 2006 7:24 PM

The Brits must get over their ridiculous insistence on using the word "Asian" about these people. I'm offended, my rights are violated, I'm developing an allergic rash from irritation, I'm going to sue them for compensation and wave banners in rage. Besides, I have a "thing" for petite Asian women, true Asians, and I don't want my rights to this word to be abused. Brits. You must stop. This is getting silly.

Posted by: anti-uffe at October 7, 2006 7:30 PM

So, the UK police are going to start getting tougher on hate speech by Muslims at public demonstrations.

But what about the same hate speech heard during Friday sermons in the Mosques? It would be more effective to monitor the Imams and close down any Mosque that promoted hatred and/or violence against non-Muslims. Sadly though, it's apparent that the content of Friday sermons can't be considered as "misrepresenting the views of the Muslim community".

Posted by: Xero G at October 7, 2006 7:38 PM

Ah, yes, the British are keeping a stiff upper lip in the face of these scofflaws. You can bomb them, shoot them, denounce them, threaten the existence of their island, threaten to rob them of their liberties, to rob them of their wealth and take their women, but through it all, the British keep a stiff upper lip. And the British authorities will come down hard. They are a no-nonsense group of chaps. While you are sitting on a British constable, hacksaw in hand, begining the to and fro motions of sawing, yelling 'Lalalalalal!', he will keep a stern face with that upper lip. The British lawman can not be cowed.

He will let you know who's boss through it all. And as you approach the final push of the saw, and his head comes off completely, rolling to one side, you will learn respect for this British lawman. Such authority. Such magnanimity. Such resolute determination. And at that point, you will realize he has defeated you. You can't win, jihadist. Not only has he stained your best sandals with blood, a stain difficult to remove, but he has dulled your blade in the process as well. You're beat, and he barely broke into a sweat.

Don't mess with the British authorities.

Posted by: August22 at October 7, 2006 7:40 PM

The French police want water canons to control the muslim horde, and now the British police are using lawyers with muslim help "A team of specialist lawyers is also to be created to help the police prosecute radicals, under a proposal by the country's most senior Muslim police chief.", and you what about all the French jokes the other day? well lawyers are about the same everywhere.. toothless liberals to the core.. one thing France rightly did when they colonizied New France, lawyers were Not allowed to immigrate there, even back in the 1600's they knew lawyers were scum! Tell the British police forget the damm lawyers, get out the ammo now!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at October 7, 2006 8:02 PM

OneEyedWink: I suggest you take your racist spew elsewhere...

Posted by: Null at October 7, 2006 8:05 PM

Just a thought about complaints of the politically correct MSM. We, on this blog, have the power to publish too. (Think Thomas Payne writing "Common Sense".) I mean, the printing press has been invented. There is no excuse. I know everyone has a computer here and has the ability to make up flyers. We should include a few key Suras from the Koran that maybe the average person doesn't know about. Encourage people to research Islam for themselves. I would also put in some of the lame counter-arguments that they can expect to hear from a Muslim in support of Islam...that way they can be prepared to "discuss" Islam.
In the end, no politically correct media will be able to manipulate the will of the people. The MSM can broacast over the airwaves, but we can spread the word on the streets--where it counts! That's where the war is going to be fought. As for now, you CANNOT depend on the politicians or "higher-ups" because they live in a nice, gated community, far from where the mosques are being built.

Posted by: SpongeMom at October 7, 2006 8:13 PM

Oops! "Paine" I mean. I can hear the "tsk tsk" from my history teacher right now. Bad speller.

Posted by: SpongeMom at October 7, 2006 8:17 PM

Tarique Ghaffur .... I would venture someone this senior has come up the hard way through the police ranks. If his plan gets the incendiary Jihadists thrown in prison then good for him. I could care less about him refuting the "misunderstanders" of Islam. This man has just put his family in jeopardy.

Posted by: dennisw at October 7, 2006 8:27 PM

OneEyedWink: Your "Pakies are germs" statement is ascribing subhuman characteristics to a national group. This, by definition, is racism, and it is antithetical to the anti-jihad effort.

Posted by: Null at October 7, 2006 8:30 PM

one eyewink

Can anyone tell me what has actually Islam contributed to the world other than brutality to different faiths? This is a serious question.

I can think of very little. Some spectacular ornate mosques in Spain and other places. Other than that Islam has been spinning it's wheels for centuries. They hate the Jews who vastly out number the Muslim Noble prize winners. Jews Christians and Oriental swell the Noble prize winner ranks.

My sense is Hindu Noble prize winners beat out the Muslim numbers

Posted by: dennisw at October 7, 2006 8:35 PM

Sounds like some of the locals are going to get tougher as well.

http://xrl.us/explosives

I think the Muslims are going to be regretting all that whining and seething they have been doing.

Posted by: km at October 7, 2006 8:53 PM

Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ who is able to save to the uttermost all who call upon Him.

Spectacular mosques and beautiful tile and linear patterns adorn Islamic structures and "art", but I'm thinking these art forms were conceived and present long before the suffocating plague of Islam broke forth on the world.

They remind me of the Borg.....assimilating the good things, then tranforming them into something unrecognizable and quite creepy.

I think of all the beautiful things they have declared to be evil, such as a woman's bodily form, music, art, even ideas.

I don't think anything beautiful has come from this cult that teaches that some humans are inferior.

Posted by: Stand fast in the liberty at October 7, 2006 9:02 PM

OneEyedWink:

Let's first try to find some common ground. I agree that the word "Asian" - as it's used in Britain - is inaccurate and unhelpful. It's not Hindus, Sikhs etc who are using every possible political/demographic device to try to dominate the political system and indigenous culture of Britain. Only Muslims are doing that. Agree?

But you are using the word "Paki" wrongly too. I'll say "Pakistani" not "Paki" if you don't mind. But anyway, the word you are looking for is "Muslim". Only 97% of Pakistanis are Muslims, and only about 12% of the World's Muslims are Pakistani.

Is my point any clearer now?

Posted by: Null at October 7, 2006 9:15 PM

I saw this in a post at LGF.
http://www.jp.dk/english_news/artikel:aid=4003730/

Posted by: Carolyn2 at October 7, 2006 9:16 PM

"The mainstream Muslim community's view is that these people are doing this for their own ends - and because of the platform the media is giving these individuals, the level of hatred is increasing."

Yeah? So then where are the moderate Muslims? Why are they not protesting against terrorism and radicals? Why are they not protesting against Bin laden?

This is rubbish. If they are silent, it's because they agree in their hearts. If they truly do not want to be associated with the radicals, then they should speak out against them.

The muslim community sure doesn't have a problem protesting against Israel or protesting in favour of Hamas. Give me a break.

Posted by: The Goobs at October 7, 2006 9:23 PM

A team of specialist lawyers is also to be created to help the police prosecute radicals, under a proposal by the country's most senior Muslim police chief.

What is a specialist lawyer? Someone well versed in PC? Methinks this unholy alliance will create far more problems than it solves.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 7, 2006 10:21 PM

Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, Moslem I presume. This is a little like having an Albert Anastasia type in charge of an organized crime unit.

Posted by: Pelayo at October 7, 2006 10:27 PM

Don't mess with the British authorities.

Posted by: August22

August22,

That was hilarious, thanks :)

Posted by: Mike_W at October 7, 2006 10:35 PM

This type of conflict in the UK is eventually going to ramp up here in the USA. Usually leaning Libertarian, I'm casting my Michigan vote for Republicans next month. Only conservatives will have the kiwis to do what will be needed. Too bad GWBush is a dhimmified non-conservative, but we can correct that in 2008. Hold your noses and vote Republican since the Dhimmicrats offer nothing but obstacles to national defense. Spread the word about how violent Islam has become acceptable to most Muslims...not enough people know the truth regarding the motivation behind this war.

Posted by: HawkWatcher at October 7, 2006 11:03 PM

HawkWatcher, no worries our police can and will shoot. The cop killer here in Tampa got it 68 times. Now that sends a message.

Posted by: Ronin at October 7, 2006 11:30 PM

Never thought I'd live to see all this, but I have. And now we must all stand straight and tall and face this darkness that is " i slam ". The people left here after we are gone depend on our courage. We owe futre generations. We owe them what our fathers tried to leave us.

Posted by: fox1 at October 8, 2006 12:20 AM

Yesterday, on their flagship news programme broadcast nationwide, the BBC said that they were getting one email every four seconds in support of Jack Straw and that the total was already well over 10,000 after just a few hours. Today they are saying that they only a tiny minority of emails supported him and that those emails scarcely numbered above a few hundred.

Well! If that doesn't tell you all that you need to know about certain British institutions then I don't know what will.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at October 8, 2006 12:26 AM

Dominic, We all know the BBC. Damn shame they are who and what they are.

Posted by: fox1 at October 8, 2006 12:31 AM

I agree with OneEyedWink, since I live in Indonesia it doesn't mean I am a Moslems. Indonesian is not a Moslem.

I think we should use word "Moslem" instead of Asian.

Btw, I am fully support to the white Brits warrior against Moslems.

I and my family already experienced this war in my homeland. Indonesian police failed to protect us as Indonesian citizen.

Posted by: Mohammed_Pedophiles_Club at October 8, 2006 12:36 AM

I just checked out a BBC website that has an overview on the religion of Islam.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/

Sounds like such a peaceful religion. Ugh! Nothing about dhimmitude or killing infidels and other ugly truths.

Posted by: SpongeMom at October 8, 2006 12:39 AM

Mohammed_Pedophiles_Club, Wow, just wow. IS YOUR NIC FOR REAL?

Posted by: fox1 at October 8, 2006 12:44 AM

"...Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur..."

Now, would some sensible, rational UK citizen (non-moslem) please explain to me why we have Tarique Ghaffur as an Assistant Commissioner - actually, why we hve Tarbaby Guffaw as a policeman at all.

What on earth can we gain from his presence in British law enforcment - excepting, of course, his so called valuable insight and his support of sharia law.

He is Britain's most senior moslem police officer and has often warned that Muslims are being discriminated against as the result of anti-terror legislation. In a speech in Manchester earlier this year, Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, to give him his full and unearned and undeserved title, said many police stop-and-searches were based more on physical appearance than on specific intelligence.

He has harped on for years that discrimination as a member of a minority community is something that he, Ghaffur, a Muslim, has experienced first-hand from an early age. He's headed such things as the Directorate of Performance, Review and Standards - whatever-the-hell that does - and he has, apparently, developed a 'programme based approach' - whatever-the-hell that means - in the Specialist Crime Directorate.

Oh God. Here we go again! Meaningless jobs for moslems just to 'integrate' them - as if that was possible.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at October 8, 2006 12:49 AM

Oh, and dear old Tarbaby Guffaw is good at playing the victim card, too. (Just like all moslems, now I come to think about it.)

Try this on for size:

"He also told how racism had blighted his own career. He warned that UK policing must do more to tackle discrimination within the ranks. He believed ethnic minority officers face an ever-present “miasma” or “toxic fog” of “misperceptions and distorted accounts of their behaviour from colleagues”. The assistant commissioner said he had “been deliberately excluded from groups, processes and decision-making on occasions. I have had creative ideas turned down, only for them to be subsequently suggested by colleagues and accepted.”

which is from http://www.publicservant.co.uk/feature_story.asp?id=113

Enough to make you want to throw up, isn't it?

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at October 8, 2006 1:03 AM

Also, from dear old Tarbaby:

“We need to future-proof by developing significant role models. While there are 1.6 million Muslims in Britain, if you look at the country’s most powerful people – in business, politics, academia, the media, arts and sport – you wouldn’t know it.”

He believes there should be at least 20 Muslim MPs...

Why? So that they can continue to distort the facts in the same way that he does. So that they can weaken us and destroy our resolve to be, and to remain, free.

Talk about people with hidden agendas, eh?

We've been following this man's career for some years and everything which we suspected has turned out to be true. He's a moslem. Need one say more.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at October 8, 2006 1:09 AM

And, what is more, we should remember that lil ole Tarbaby Guffaw believes that:

...[moslems should] reach out to the society around them... [and]access established power structures."

Why?

Obvious, when one thinks about it. In order to turn Britain into the sort of islamic, sharia driven, second-rate, no-future society that he, Tarbaby Guffaw, so obviously wants.

Beware the quisling!

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at October 8, 2006 1:47 AM

I also guess you dont't like me wrtiting Pakies instead of Pakistanies? I don't know what difference does it make to you if I call them Pakies? People use Mo instead of Muslims, do they not?

I agree with OneEyedWink here. While historically, Paki was racist when used indiscriminately against anybody and everybody from the sub-continent, it's completely justified when describing Pakistanis and Bangladeshis (since the latter were East Pakis at one time). I use the term Paki, or if I'm going to use the longer word, I'd use the term Fedup introduced here - Fuckistani.

97% of Pakies are Muslims is a figure handed out by the Government of Pakistan? I don't buy that because that would mean nearly 5 million people are non-Muslim. Well any five years old can add that in any large city there are no more than three-four pockets of 10 to 20 thosand non-Muslims. Even if I assume 20 such cities (that is more than required), there would be less than half-million non-muslims. I think that is realistic. Pakies (;#)do not count Ahamedian Muslims as Muslims to fool people like you with statistics. Actual total number of non-Muslims is less than half million.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at October 8, 2006 2:24 AM

British Police Get Tough On Jihadists:

Police: What-ho old chap! Im afraid your call to behead all infidels is not, how to put this, well its just not cricket.

Jihadi: I didn't give you permission to speak to me, dirty kaffur!!!

Police: Well, in that case would like a cup of tea?

Jihadi: SLAY THOSE THAT INSULT THE PROPHET!!! KILL THE INFIDELS!!!!

Police: Jolly good, I'll make it a cup of tea and two biscuits then. Do carry on.

Posted by: bondo at October 8, 2006 2:49 AM

Null:

We're at war. We get foul when we refer to our enemies. When the war is over we won't call them names anymore, just like how we don't say Jap or Kraut anymore.

Posted by: atheling at October 8, 2006 3:04 AM

By the way, 97% of Pakistanis being Muslim is a figure provided by the CIA. Now onto the key issues:

Yes it's war, but at the present time the most important battlezone in that war is still the home front - it's the battle to generate a wider understanding, in the west, of the motives and methods of Islam in seeking to expand itself.

In getting that message out, careful use of language is incredibly important, if only because using it in a way that will be seen by the majority of people in our countries as racist will alienate us and undermine our home front battle.

This is not pandering to political correctness, by the way. We don't all have to agree on everything. But if you find yourself unable to speak to a few people on a regular basis and gently seed facts such as that violent jihad is part-and-parcel of Islam, or that Mohammed was a brutal warrior, or that the demographic dominance of host countries is laid down in Muslim writings, or that manufactured pretexts and rage are established mechanisms used by Muslims to force through aspects of Sharia - if you are failing to communicate these and similar things to numbers of people that you meet, if you instead are making them turn away from you, back into their politically correct shells, then you are effectively an agent FOR the islamic jihad, not against it!

Posted by: Null at October 8, 2006 4:41 AM

Can anyone say, hand on heart, that there is ANY economic benefit to having Muslims in our communities? Granted, cheap, non-skilled Tesco labourers they are, and yes paying tax. But taxes paid from minimum wage jobs does not nearly cover the costs associated with added security, pressure on schoods for their 3-4 children, the trash generated by 5-6 member families, the health care costs etc etc etc etc... It seems to me that having Muslims in our midst is a net drain of economic value.

Posted by: myiironu at October 8, 2006 5:30 AM

Null:
"Yes it's war, but at the present time the most important battlezone in that war is still the home front - it's the battle to generate a wider understanding, in the west, of the motives and methods of Islam in seeking to expand itself."

I agree completely with Null. Even though every single word OneEyedWink and Infidel Pride wrote is true. (And I don't believe that 97% figure either.)
Instead of using terms as germs, every time Pakistan is mentioned, tell people that Pakistan means "land of the pure" because the muslims consider Hindus and other non-muslims
ad dirty infidels. Tell them about the rape laws in Pakistan and that there have to be 4 witnesses before a rapist can be convicted and ask how many rapists would be convicted in the west if we had similar laws. Tell them about how almost all non-muslims have been wiped out in Pakistan - from 20% to 0% in 60 years.

Perhaps that's why they want to declare the Ahmadis as non-muslims. They are running short of infidels they can exterminate, so they have to invent some to satisfy their thirst for blood.

Posted by: European Crusader at October 8, 2006 5:42 AM

The Church of England has launched an astonishing attack on the Government's drive to turn Britain into a multi-faith society.

In a wide-ranging condemnation of policy, it says that the attempt to make minority "faith" communities more integrated has backfired, leaving society "more separated than ever before". The criticisms are made in a confidential Church document, leaked to The Sunday Telegraph, that challenges the "widespread description" of Britain as a multi-faith society and even calls for the term "multi-faith" to be reconsidered.
The Church says 'privileged attention' has been given to the Islamic faith

It claims that divisions between communities have been deepened by the Government's "schizophrenic" approach to tackling multiculturalism. While trying to encourage interfaith relations, it has actually given "privileged attention" to the Islamic faith and Muslim communities.

Written by Guy Wilkinson, the interfaith adviser to the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, the paper says that the Church of England has been sidelined. Instead, "preferential" treatment has been afforded to the Muslim community despite the fact that it makes up only three per cent of the population. Britain remains overwhelmingly a Christian country at heart and moves to label it as a multi-faith society suggest a hidden agenda, it says.

Drive for multi-faith Britain deepens rifts, says Church

Stable doors and horses come to mind.

Posted by: DP111 at October 8, 2006 6:35 AM

Can anyone say, hand on heart, that there is ANY economic benefit to having Muslims in our communities?
posted by miiyronu

I don't have any statistics, but I would say that any small economic or social advantages, whether real or fabricated, are far outweighed by the overwhelming disadvantages of having muslims in our countries.

They take far more than they contribute!
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British Government statistics reveal that some half of the Bangladeshi and Pakistani population in Britain, are totally reliant on Benefits. Each Muslim is thus costing the taxpayer some £15,000 per year.

Assuming a population of 2 million Muslims, we arrive at a figure of £15bn cost to the tax payer. The rest of the Muslim population is employed in Halal shops, restaruants etc, and are hardly an assett to the country, as they themselves are simply living off the people who do get Benefits, in addition to getting Housing benefit etc. All this does not include the cost of free health care, maternity and child costs, which Muslims put a more then ordinary strain on the budget. It does not include the cost of security measures and damage to the economy.

So what is the answer. Why it is obvious to the likes of Blair and Bush - we need more Muslim immigrants.

Posted by: DP111 at October 8, 2006 6:44 AM

The tyranny of political correctness has for years suppressed the qualms that many Britons have had about what was happening to their country. Radical imams were allowed to preach hatred while being funded with state benefits, but few dared to question such madness, let alone act against it. The doctrine of multiculturalism dictated that all beliefs should be allowed to flourish, and to challenge that view was as politically incorrect as pinning up a Pirelli calendar in Islington Town Hall or suggesting that two married parents usually provide the best start in life for a child

Multiculturalism hasn't worked

Stablse and doors.

Why does it take the intellengtsia so long to realise an obvious truth.

Posted by: DP111 at October 8, 2006 6:50 AM

http://www.france-echos.com/actualite.php?cle=10411

Une collégienne a été lapidée mercredi dans une cour de récréation

Pour non-respect du Ramadan.
Selon une information communiquée par Michèle Vianès, de l'association Regards de Femmes :

L'information que j'ai donnée jeudi lors de notre café Regards de Femmes est dans Le Progrès d'aujourd'hui.

Une collégienne du collège Jean Mermoz dans le huitième arrondissement de Lyon a été agressée à coup de pierres mercredi matin en cour de récréation alors qu'elle mangeait son goûter . La thèse d'un acte lié au non-respect du ramadan est confirmée par le parquet de Lyon sur la foi des premiers éléments de l'enquête.

Azzedine Gaci, le président du CRCM déclare que si "les faits sont avérés, ils sont inacceptables". Il déplore l'ignorance des élèves à qui il faudrait enseigner le Coran à l'école et qui ignorent que sont exemptées de suivre le ramadan les "femmes indisposées".
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A schoolgirl was lapidated Wednesday in a playground

For non-observance of the Ramadan.
According to information communicated by Michele Vianès, of association Glances of Women :

Information that I gave Thursday at the time of our Regards coffee of Women is in the Progress of today.

A schoolgirl of the college Jean Mermoz in the eighth district of Lyon was attacked with blow of stones Wednesday morning in playground whereas it ate its to taste. The thesis of an act related to the non-observance of the Ramadan is confirmed by the parquet floor of Lyon on the faith of the first elements of the investigation.

Azzedine Gaci, the president of the CRCM declares that if "the facts are proven, they are unacceptable". It deplores the ignorance of the pupils with which it would be necessary to teach Coran at the school and which is unaware of that the Ramadan the "indisposed women are exempted to follow".

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It's unacceptable. Not WHAT they did but that they didn't know the koran enough.

Posted by: Borg at October 8, 2006 7:07 AM

StillFedUP

Good point - BNP is what concerns the Muslim policeman and other Muslim spokesman, and not the deranged demonstrators, or the suicide bombers in our midst.

The curious and interesting thing about all this examination of multiculeralism and Islam is, what brought about this sudden change?

My view is that the main political parties, from their own canvassing, found to their dismay, that their was a significant rise in the number of people who were going to vote for the BNP. I believe this is what has brought this sudden flurry of trying to engage the public on immigration and Islam in particular. The reality ofcourse is that the only ones debating, are the very ones that have got us in this mess in the first place; the ones who have no idea of the implacable hatred of Muslims for non-muslims, the ones who have never bothered to read the Quran and the Hadiths, or for that matter the history of those peoples who were subjugated by Islam. The history of Persia, Turkey and the lands of the ME which were once Christian, and where Christians are now a small and persecuted minority, or the history of India, a once great civilisation that was all but brought to its knees, its temples destroyed by the tens of thousands, and Hindus massacred by the tens of millions, and were it not for Britain, India would be an Islamic nation, and Hindu civilisation would not even be a memory.

The ongoing persecution and massacre of Christians in Muslim nations from Indonesia to Algeria, has brought about no condemnation, not even from the Archbishop of Canterbury, who views this persecution as simply a 'cycle of violence'. I have nothing but total contempt for such people, who have sacrificed our faith and civilisation to appease a group of people who cannot be appeased, short of us becoming Muslim.

The ones engaging in the debate are these ignoramuses, the ones who have no idea of Britain and its pivotal and primary contribution to civilisation, and who are now in a panic, that there vast social engineering programme on the British people will be set at naught if the BNP takes office. It is an excercise at the eleventh hour, to save their own political skins and legacy, such as it is.

Posted by: DP111 at October 8, 2006 9:20 AM

dennisw

Tarique Ghaffur has a history, and it is not inspiring.

Posted by: DP111 at October 8, 2006 9:27 AM

The Church of England has launched an astonishing attack on the Government's drive to turn Britain into a multi-faith society. - DP111

Do you think this will spur "Church of England" rage throughout the muzzie world? We'll have to wait and see, I give it 4-5 days......

Posted by: americanmadestrat at October 8, 2006 9:57 AM

Hindus massacred by the tens of millions, and were it not for Britain, India would be an Islamic nation, and Hindu civilisation would not even be a memory.

This is incorrect. After 1708, the Moghul empire started crumbling, and much of India was being overrun by the Marathas. While the latter made their share of mistakes by not annexing all parts of the Moghul empire and destroying the Nizam of Hyderabad, India would by no means have become Islamic had the Brits not arrived; rather, they would have curbed Islam on their own.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at October 8, 2006 11:26 AM

I need a stiff drink, in this report:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5395034.stm

Another day of Ramadan and a sound that has started every day for centuries, but crouching behind the sandbags and firing positions in the British base, it was a stark reminder of how the war on terror is becoming a clash between Islam and the West.

Well at last a bit of truth, but perhaps the BBC are using this to say its a bad thing as it causes a clash of civilisation, but anyway, I was a mite bit shocked to see that statement.

Posted by: Daffersd at October 8, 2006 12:25 PM

The ones engaging in the debate are these ignoramuses, the ones who have no idea of Britain and its pivotal and primary contribution to civilisation, and who are now in a panic, that there vast social engineering programme on the British people will be set at naught if the BNP takes office. It is an excercise at the eleventh hour, to save their own political skins and legacy, such as it is.
Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 8, 2006 09:20 AM

I agree the one thing that frightens and can stop both the Multicultists and the Islamists is a rise in power of the nationlist parties. The nationalists are the only organizations that have had the foresight to see that this enitirely predictable situation will arrive and have had the cajones to actually speak up and say something about it.

If Europe is to stay an enlightend Christian continent the nationalists must gain in power. The problem is the weak kneed liberals who are so scared at the thought of resurgent nationalism that they would rather pander to Islamic fascists and give away their country through legislation to sharia law.

Lets hope the BNP sweeps to power and starts putting an end to this madness. I for one would be happy to increase funding for deportation of Muslims so that the self loathing multiculturalistswho keep enabling them can join their favorite victim group in the Islamic crap hole of their choice.

I have been arguing for a long time that this war is much more advanced than people think. The people must take action now. The people of Britain if you want to save your country from the Islamic hordes and the legislation of Eurabia. Vote BNP expell all Muslims and withdraw from the EU. The longer you wait the more bloody it will be.

Posted by: km at October 8, 2006 4:16 PM

BNP - the party only those "of British or kindred European ethnic descent" can join. No thanks!

Posted by: Null at October 8, 2006 5:41 PM

Null

The time for worrying about liberal sensitivities is over. It is time to start thinking how to win this war and quick.

My vote goes to the party that recognizes the threat from Islam. They could be 3ft martians from alpha centauri for all I care.

It is telling that with the rise in popularity of the BNP the other parties are starting to sit up and take notice, although IMHO they are too late.

Voting BNP will force the other parties to take action.

Posted by: km at October 8, 2006 7:04 PM

Infidel Pride

I realise that the Marathas did take power in Delhi and were using the Muslim ruler as a puppet. But he OTH was simply waiting for the usual fissiparious tendencies of the Hindus to take hold, and another invasion from Afghanistan, to reinstate Muslim overlordship.

Given past history of Hindu battle victories which were then lost due to Hindu acrimony within, how long do you think the Marathas would have lasted against the unified Islamic Ummah and another Afghan invasion?

Posted by: DP111 at October 8, 2006 7:27 PM

Mert

Sir Henry Morgan has an intersting post at

http://gandalf-reconquista.blogspot.com/

Is Islam Waging War on the World? Part 2.

The war is accelerating in what looks like an exponential manner. Do you think you have the luxury of waiting for the likes of labour and the tories to thrash out an acceptable multiculti solution that make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

Posted by: km at October 8, 2006 9:43 PM

It's unacceptable. Not WHAT they did but that they didn't know the koran enough.

Posted by: Borg

The tree is know by his fruit

No apologist for Islam can add nor take away from that one simple statement.

Posted by: Beth at October 9, 2006 12:11 AM

km:

You're overreacting, as is almost invariably the case when someone refers to exponential growth. I'm not going to get into my specific issues with the BNP; those issues are so axiomatic to me that if you don't share them now I'm very unlikely to persuade you. Suffice to say that a great many in the Conservative Party and UKIP are well aware of what's going on, but also committed to countering them in a way that doesn't exacerbate other problems.

Posted by: Null at October 9, 2006 4:33 AM

Null said

You're overreacting, as is almost invariably the case when someone refers to exponential growth.

Null I have presented physical evidence for the exponential growth in jihad activity for the last 5 years. Where is your evidence to prove that I am wrong or over reacting. Maybe you just feeeeel things are not that bad, maybe you feeeeel that the ruling establishment has the situation under their control, what evidence do you have to support your position?

I put it to you that the all the mainstream parties of the European union have aligned themselves with the Eurabian project. See Bat Yeor for a more in depth look at the evidence, also Fjordman has just published a couple of articles called the 'Eurabian code' supporting this hypothesis.

When the Conservatives or UKIP start using the same language as the BNP to describe the threat from Islam, then I will put my vote their way. Until then my original position stands. We are at war and this war is much further along than most people realize (due to media control from the multicultists). It is time for the common man to take action and take back their country.

On a personal note I dont think the BNP needs to be in power to effect change, they just need enough votes to establish an opposition to the other multiculti main stream parties. If you want to defend your country a vote for the BNP is the most effective way of using your democratic voice.

Posted by: km at October 9, 2006 1:01 PM

but also committed to countering them in a way that doesn't exacerbate other problems.

Null what plans do the Tories or UKIP have to counter a 1400yr old ideological engine of war that will not exacerbate other problems?.

Also what other problems are you speaking about?

Posted by: km at October 9, 2006 1:11 PM

I'm going to unashamedly ignore your questions. They're the wrong questions.

You would appear to be seeing the "ideological engine of war" as the main problem. It isn't. The intended end result of the jihad is even worse. I know first-hand, having lived (existed) under sharia.

I despite both islamic and white supremacy, in their respective forms of sharia and the BNP agenda. In its current state, you simply couldn't pay me to vote BNP.

Posted by: Null at October 9, 2006 5:40 PM

I'm going to unashamedly ignore your questions. They're the wrong questions.

Why are they wrong questions?

You would appear to be seeing the "ideological engine of war" as the main problem. It isn't.

Really, then could you please tell us what is the main problem.

I despite both islamic and white supremacy, in their respective forms of sharia and the BNP agenda. In its current state, you simply couldn't pay me to vote BNP.

It is your right to vote for who you please, and far be it from me to tell you where to put your cross on the ballot paper. However I have one final question, in light of the threat from Islam could you explain to this forum which party you would vote for and why?

Posted by: km at October 9, 2006 8:33 PM

Null,

Here is an interesting report from the Brussels journal on the recent Belgian elections. Please note how the Muslim block vote has swept the socialists to power, note also that seven of the new seats are now held by Muslim immigrants. Also please note that the only real resistance is comming from the Vlaams Belang party, the Belgian equivalent of the BNP.

The nationalists are the only solution to break the chains of the EU/Eurabian monster.

Posted by: km at October 9, 2006 9:02 PM

whoops I forgot the link.

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1480

Posted by: km at October 9, 2006 9:03 PM

KM

Have the Belgian socialists got a death wish? Tony Blair and pals have not gone that far.

Posted by: Fred at October 10, 2006 4:22 AM