Boy, it sure is hell being "people of the Book". They always seem to be targeted for death. I'll bet this guy was killed in the usual honorable manner, i.e. shot from behind. We should get all these "infidels" out of those cesspools and bring them West rather than allow more of those contemptible 'peaceful ones" in.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 11, 2006 2:05 PM

It's the religion of ignorance at work again. They don't know their own book, let alone anyone elses book. It must be hell living your life in fear of talking to people who recognize how ignorant you are from the first word.

Posted by: Mike H. at October 11, 2006 2:42 PM

islamofascists create the very hell they claim to oppose - and the one which will consume them -until their very last lost soul

Posted by: TINBH at October 11, 2006 3:01 PM

OT, but a small plane has crashed into a building in New York City.

Posted by: Voltaire at October 11, 2006 3:05 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these form of Christianity is the only surviving relic of the gnostic strain of Christianity. Fascinating and very sad. There should be a rescue mission to evacuate Christians from Iraq.

Posted by: biorabbi at October 11, 2006 3:17 PM

We should get all these "infidels" out of those cesspools and bring them West rather than allow more of those contemptible 'peaceful ones" in.

I concur.. Bring the VICTIMS of islam to our countries. NOT the perpetrators!!

Posted by: germaninamerica at October 11, 2006 3:31 PM

Last time I saw pictures on TV like these, I saw another plane fly into the next building.
It is a 50 story condo.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at October 11, 2006 3:37 PM

Belaire Condominiums

Posted by: Carolyn2 at October 11, 2006 3:37 PM

Jets are being scrambled - NORAD

Posted by: Carolyn2 at October 11, 2006 3:41 PM

During 1350 years, Muslims have been engaged in destroying the art and artifacts, the libraries and monuments, of non-Muslim peoples. When those peoples are small, and completely defenseless, and when the loss to history is so much greater because the amount of material that exists is small to begin with, the Muslim destruction and murder is still more disturbing.

Over the past few years Mandaean libraries of ancient manuscripts have been destroyed in Iraq. Those who scream about the American soldires not protecting the Baghdad Museum from the depredatins of Muslim Iraqis have not -- vide a certain Prof. Bahrani -- denounced, or otherwise publicized, the destruction of the Mandaean libraries.

And this destruction, which went on without being recorded under Muslim rule, began to be noted early in the last century. Indeed, there is one famous case of a priest -- Mandaean or Assyrian or something else, who hid some precious manuscripts in a well, just before being killed by Muslims. I can't recall more details, or the place, but the only reason we know of this incident is, by that point, there was contact made with outsiders, with Westerners, who could record and keep the story alive.

That is Islam. And that is the Mandaeans, and all the other small and harmless peoples who have had to endure Islam, without any conceivable protection.

Will the American government insist, as a condition for supporting an independent Kurdistan, that the Kurds create an enclave for the Assyrians, and the Mandaeans, and all other non-Muslims, and that they guarantee the safety of those peoples, or let Americans remain to ensure their safety? This is something that must be considered now, and not in a year, and certainly not in two. The American army will be out of Iraq at the latest, a few months after the swearing-in of a new admnistration in January 1909. At the very latest. If there were any way to get through to the Great Hallcuinator, about Islam and how to weaken the Camp of Islam, such a withdrawal would take place today. Where is the plan for protecting the only people we should worry about -- the Christians and other remaining non-Muslims?

What candidate will make this his issue? Who? When? Where?

Posted by: Hugh at October 11, 2006 3:42 PM

The "priest" I was thinking of was in fact the Chaldean Archbishop Addai, who had in the 1890s made a tour of monasteries to record their manuscript holdings, and who himself was later murdered in the early years of the last century, having, it was said, first buried in a well the fabled library of Sirt. What happened to that library of Sirt? Who knows? Who knows what has happened, over the centuries, to so many things that disappeared under Muslim rule?

One more item:

The Syriac Manuscripts of Notre-Dame des Semences

[This is a summary of the catalogue given by Addai Scher in Journal Asiatique.]
Nine hours north of Mosul on the mountain of Beth Edri is one of the most ancient Chaldean abbeys. It was founded around the end of the 6th century by Rabban Hormizd, disciple of Rabban Bar Edta. It flourished until the 10th century. At the beginning of the 15th century the Nestorian patriarchs moved their residence there, since there were no longer any Christians in Baghdad. The tombs of 9 such patriarchs from 1504-1804 can be found there.
At the end of the 18th century, the convent was abandoned. Gabriel Dambo repaired it. He had been one of the richest merchants of Mardin. Renouncing his wealth, he became a monk at Alqosh in order to live in the convent. He encountered numerous difficulties with the patriarchal family, which he overcame with patience and confidence in God. He thus attracted a number of disciples who followed with him the rule of St. Anthony.
Dambo was murdered in 1832 by the soldiers of Mohammed Pasha, the kurdish emir of Rawandouz. These had revolted against the Ottoman government and gone on a spree of pillage and massacre (see the note at the end of codex 94).
The library of the convent of Rabban Hormizd was rich in Syriac manuscripts. In 1828 many of these manuscripts were looted and broken up by Moussa Pasha, who had imitated the emir of Rawandouz in revolting against the Turk. In 1868 147 volumes, manuscript and printed, suffered the same treatment from Ismael Pasha, the successor of Moussa Pasha. Most of the manuscripts now (1906) in the convent have been acquired and brought here since 1842.
Addai Scher visited the library in 1902 and took notes on each manuscript, although not noting the size or number of pages in every case."

Note the murder in 1832 of Gabriel Dmabo, and the record of constant destruction by Turks, Kurds, and other Muslims. It is not a new phenomenon -- and if no Americans or other Westerners were in Iraq, no doubt such things would not reach the world press, if not the world's attention.

Islam doesn't change. The fate of the tiniest peoples -- the Mandaeans (or Sabeans) -- or of tiny peoples -- the Jews -- or of not-so-tiny peoples -- the Christians -- remains, under the rule of Islam, and according the Holy Law of Islam, the same.

Posted by: Hugh at October 11, 2006 4:10 PM

Cory Lidle, pitcher for the NY Yankees piloting the plane. No terrorism.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at October 11, 2006 4:56 PM

If there are any new websites and blogs about the entire history of Islamic persecution of People of the Book, please post them on Jihad Watch.

Posted by: Christian at October 12, 2006 4:53 PM

So much for Bush bringing freedom to the wogs!

Posted by: Dumbo at October 12, 2006 5:32 PM