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On this week's Jihad Watch segment at Hot Air, I discuss the hot water that Canadian Muslims Farzana Hassan Shahid and Tarek Fatah have gotten into with their coreligionists for deviating even slightly from what John Esposito would probably call The Straight Path.
Posted by Robert at October 19, 2006 11:32 AM
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as i heard a muhammedian say whilst debating another muhammedian.......
"There is no such thing as a moderate muslim, you are either a muslim or not a muslim at all."
"oh, but, but, but" the left will say "but he doesnt speak for all muslims"
ahhhhh. when will we learn?
YHWH (not allah) bless u all!
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at October 19, 2006 2:01 PM
Strangely enough, I've just had lunch with an English person who had a relationship with a woman who was "seriously Islamic".
While I was trying to explain why there are "no moderate moslems" he told an illuminating story.
He was seeing this moslem woman at the time (under normal dhimmi restrictions i.e. they couldn't hold hands together in the neighborhood) of 9/11.
They watched it together and were horrified.
A few days later (after friday mosque I suspect) she turned round and said "Well - they deserved it".
My comment at the time: "I rest my case ..."
Posted by: drk at October 19, 2006 2:28 PM
I have been saying for a longtime that the radicals are the ones who speak against Sharriah (or however you spell it). I am no scholar of the Qran (however you spell it) but am I not correct that its is repeated many times that infidels (all non muslims are to be killed, forced into accepting islam, or forced into servitude to islam).
Posted by: Brandon at October 19, 2006 2:30 PM
OT: On Firefox, I had no problems bookmarking both JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch as RSS sites, so that I can see the entire list of threads on a pull-down menu on the personal toolbar. Currently, I'm changing laptops, and before I install Firefox, I wanted to check whether anybody has successfully used the RSS feature of this site on Internet Explorer 7. At work, I do work on a number of pages, and would therefore like to try that out. Of course, if it doesn't work, I'd simply revert to Firefox again.
I tried this yesterday, and somehow, the RSS implementation on this site looks different from the others sites that I've marked accordingly.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at October 19, 2006 3:57 PM
Clearly, a "moderate Muslim" can only be one who rejects everything Mohammed ever said or did.
To test any Muslim for moderation, therefore, one need only ask him if he considers Mohammed to have led a perfect life, a life to be emulated in the modern world. If he says "yes," that means he accepts, among other vile concepts, violent jihad against "the other" as acceptable behavior. It means, among other things, that he is a self-declared and perpetual enemy of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
By this definition, only moderate Muslims should ever be allowed to set foot in the free world. Non-moderate Muslims--the Mohammedans--should be prohibited from setting foot on our soil, for any reason, no matter how briefly.
at October 19, 2006 5:04 PM
Mother Ecclesiastica,
I agree. But our own legal doctrines paralyze us into inaction, because we may not make laws against or speak against religion. By using the same kind of wordplay the Muslims do to us every day, we can say we are "for" Islam, and would never think of offending a religious person. It is Mohammedanism, the distinctly political and non-religious part of the ideology (a huge part, to be sure!) that we condemn and reject.
We need a vocabulary that let's us speak out confidently, to put the Muslims on the defensive instead of us. We need a vocabulary that enables us to make proper defensive laws and regulations. Let them try to defend "Mohammedanism." They will lose in the glare of the public area. They are only successful now because they hide the truth.
With this strategy, we can always say to the PC crowd: We are not against the peaceful religion of Islam. It is the violent Mohammedanism that is rejected--for good reason. Dare to defend his life example!
With this strategy, we have a clear test of who is an extremist and who is not, who is to be trusted and who is not, who is to be watched or excluded, and who is not, all without intruding upon religious freedom.
Posted by: Stendec at October 19, 2006 7:46 PM
Dear Fellow Infidels:
Well-put.
Trouble is, how do we persuade/hammer our spineless politicos with the TRUTH?
Posted by: Tex-Mex at October 19, 2006 9:21 PM
The only place one will find a moderate Muslim is the morgue.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 19, 2006 10:08 PM
definition of a moderate muslem thats a radical muslem who just ran out of bullets and is now looking down the barrel of a candian c7 rifle
Posted by: islamakapigeaters at October 20, 2006 11:25 PM
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