lol thats funny....

theyre probably afraid of being bombed.

Posted by: W_D_J_D at October 25, 2006 7:37 AM

That's ridiculous.

Good work, Paul. I'll have to investigate the situation at my local bookstores.

Posted by: InfidelWench at October 25, 2006 7:39 AM

Has anyone compared the number of books Robert has sold to the number of Karen Armstrong door-stoppers?

Posted by: waterdragon52 at October 25, 2006 7:40 AM

Well, I didn't see any copies at the newarrivals area at Barnes and Noble the other day. But then again, I did not see what they were using for doorstops either. One WOULD think that a best seller would be displayed in a prominent location but I guess the powers that be are red faced that a book that doesn't kiss Mo's fanny is doing so well. Shame on them!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 25, 2006 7:41 AM

Looks like crazy Karen's Mo' book is competition for Robert Spencer's. Both were published this October. Armstrong writes about other religions but returns to Islam same as a dog circling back to lick it's own poop. She just can't get enough of Mo' and Muhammadanism. As a nut job liberal she feels Muhammadanism has been wronged by evil Westerners and her duty is to set the record straight

_________________

Book Description (from Amazon)

Karen Armstrong's immaculately researched new biography of Muhammad will enable readers to understand the true origins and spirituality of a faith that is all too often misrepresented as cruel, intolerant, and inherently violent. An acclaimed authority on religious and spiritual issues, Armstrong offers a balanced, in-depth portrait, revealing the man at the heart of Islam by dismantling centuries of misconceptions. Armstrong demonstrates that Muhammad's life—a pivot point in history—has genuine relevance to the global crises we face today.
http://www.amazon.com/Muhammad-Prophet-Time-Eminent-Lives/dp/0060598972

Posted by: dennisw at October 25, 2006 7:47 AM

Muhammad: A Prophet for Our Time (Eminent Lives) (Hardcover)

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #13,237 in Books

The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion (Hardcover)

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #53 in Books

Posted by: dennisw at October 25, 2006 7:49 AM

Karen Armstrong's immaculately researched new biography of Muhammad will enable readers to understand......

My bet is she did no new research. Her love affair with Islam is so strong that she had plenty of leftover material from other books. She and her flunkies formed it into her "brand spanking new" Mo' book

Posted by: dennisw at October 25, 2006 7:54 AM

Christian fiction?

Why Christian? And why Fiction? Bookstore staff made some value judgements.

This is another example of how the Left controls all access to news, except the internet, which, by definition, is beyond anyone's control.

Not only do they control the media, the entertainment world, the music industry, the universities, the schools, the libraries, and all of the important government posts, but they also control the book stores. Book stores are very important to them, as they are one of the main portals of information to the masses.

I published a book, a series of essays on a myriad of topics, many of them conservative essays, and I received a very cold reception by book store managers of the big chains. The people that run these stores have their own politics, and they use their position for political purposes. For the shareholders of the bookstores, it is just a business. But for the managers, a bookstore is not a business. It is an information portal, which, like the other aforementioned institutions, needs to be controlled, lest the truth get out.

Posted by: August22 at October 25, 2006 8:09 AM

I plan on doing this too...putting copies of the book in different (and far more relevant) sections.

Posted by: bjjfiter at October 25, 2006 8:14 AM

Christian fiction? Why Christian?

Posted by: August22 at October 25, 2006 08:09 AM

Posted by: Shy Guy at October 25, 2006 8:16 AM

I found my copy in the history section. Not in the new books or religion. And yes Armstrong's book was in the islam religion section.

Posted by: Borg at October 25, 2006 8:19 AM

I went into Border's Express and was told it would be in the history section. When the clerk and I couldn't find it, we started to check more relevant sections, such as religion to no avail. Finally, she located a copy in the storage room and told me that since it was a brand new book, it hadn't been put out yet. Yeah, right! It was a solid week after the release date. Release dates are generally on Tuesdays and the retailers rush them out to keep up the sales. This is such b.s.

Posted by: No1 Infidel at October 25, 2006 8:33 AM

That is interesting. I haven't check my local Border's stores, but I will today. I find it interesting because the so-called "Historical Jesus" books are always in the Christian religious section. Along with the truth about that Gnostic gospel or this one and so on. At least they could be fair and put a book written on the history of Mohammed in the Islam section. That's just crazy, but an example of a politcal agenda if I ever saw one. I will report back.

Peace.

Posted by: Monkeywho at October 25, 2006 8:34 AM

Remeber that Borders is the bookstore chain that refused to carry a magazine that included the infamous Mohammed cartoons.

Posted by: dm60462 at October 25, 2006 8:35 AM

Good dhimmis, keep those terribly honest exposes out of the way of the infidel. Truth has never been part of the islamic arsenal after all.

Posted by: Jerusalem at October 25, 2006 8:40 AM

Maybe in the future Robert(PBUH) should use a misleading title like "Islam's Glory" in big letters. Then a tiny subheading: "A Chronicle of
Imperialistic Slaughter". Let's see how that would be displayed.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 25, 2006 8:46 AM

Re Karen Armstrong's "Muhammad: A Prophet for Our Time" on diplay.

My hunch is that people like Armstrong (and Esposito) are typical bourgeois types, in "therapy", or have been in "therapy" and taking medications that distort their minds and sense of reality. I'll bet I'm right. A lot of people are unable to take "The Truth About Muhammad" and put it front and center for the same reasons. It's the mad and Muhammad in formation.

Posted by: Frank at October 25, 2006 9:07 AM

Frank sez: My hunch is that people like Armstrong (and Esposito) are typical bourgeois types, in "therapy", or have been in "therapy" and taking medications that distort their minds and sense of reality.

Smoke gets in your eyes: They must live in Cal USA, where you can get a permit to grow your own meds.
Once they inhale those meds, it takes them a week to exhale. Most of the people around here with the 'grow your own med' permits are liberals. You can tell who they are because they have been holding it in for so long, they turn blue. A blue liberal is a stoned liberal. I see them in the liquor stores buying micro brew beer, and cigarettes.
If you ask them about Islam, they will tell you that they dont drink it themselves, but there might be a few bottles in the bottom of the cooler.

Posted by: duh_swami at October 25, 2006 9:42 AM

I read Robert's very well done and well documented Muhammad biography and since many of the reviewers on Amazon who hated it said read Karen Armstrong instead, I'm trying to get through her 1990's bio of Muhammad to see what the opposition says. But, I got to tell you, it is really hard going.

I know History--many years of undergrad and graduate study, several degrees and almost 30 years work experience doing heavy-duty historical research--and plowing through Armstrong's agit-prop alternative reality version of History is nauseating and infuriating at the same time.

The way Armstrong has twisted the facts, her sly manipulations of language and logic and her use of half truths and "tu quoque" arguments i.e. any reference to Muslim's aggressive, brutal behavior is immediately diverted by the accusation that Christians did bad things too--the Crusades, the Inquisition, etc. etc.--this in just the first few pages of the Introduction-means hundreds more pages of stinking, deliberately fabricated garbage to wade through.

Posted by: GaryK at October 25, 2006 10:01 AM

Who is Karen Armstrong?

I have called three Borders Books in the Tampa area, and in each and every case, the clerk said they only had three copies of the "Truth About Mohammed" in stock. Hmm I thought. Then I remembered previous postings on Jihad Watch, regarding the "Truth About Mohammed", and many other posters reported the exact same thing...only three in stock. Hmm.
Who is the controlling partner in Borders Books?
...so I had a clerk at a Borders order one (1) hard cover, and place a hold on the audio when available...I will check bi-weekly.
Tempest Fugit, momento mori.

Posted by: SickBoy at October 25, 2006 10:26 AM

The "Truth about Muhammad" was not available at Exclusive Books. Pretoria. South Africa. They are importing a copy for me. Delivery 3 weeks. I hope there are more copies coming to SA.

Posted by: Dsinc at October 25, 2006 10:28 AM

Who is Karen Armstrong?

I have called three Borders Books in the Tampa area, and in each and every case, the clerk said they only had three copies of the "Truth About Mohammed" in stock. Hmm I thought. Then I remembered previous postings on Jihad Watch, regarding the "Truth About Mohammed", and many other posters reported the exact same thing...only three in stock. Hmm.
Who is the controlling partner in Borders Books?
...so I had a clerk at a Borders order one (1) hard cover, and place a hold on the audio when available...I will check bi-weekly.
Tempest Fugit, momento mori.

Posted by: SickBoy at October 25, 2006 10:28 AM

At the Borders near Atlantic City, New Jersey, Mr Spencers book was also strangely missing from the "best seller" display.
I eventually found it, out of alphabetical order and on the bottom shelf in the Middle Eastern History section.
The truth terrifies some of us I suppose?

Posted by: IslamBgone at October 25, 2006 10:41 AM

Want to really mess with them? Place the Qurans in the Gay and Lesbian section. :)

Posted by: desertdawg29palms at October 25, 2006 10:56 AM

Just curious. Will the book be translated into other languages??? I wonder if it would sell in Germany.

Posted by: americaningermany at October 25, 2006 10:44 AM

If it's translated into Arabic or Farsi I'll consider converting!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 25, 2006 10:57 AM

I have an idea. Go into your local bookstore and if you find insurgent activity being practiced, tell the manager in no uncertain terms that you are writing your rep. and requesting that any book store that is caught trying to manipulate our thoughts and ideas should have a wrecking ball assigned to take care of the problem. Enough with these rats and their arrogance, trying to censor free speech by hiding it away in the storage room. We need to show them that we are wise to their tricks and we will not let them get away with it. If I were Pres. and I was told of any book store personnel who were found responsible for actions like these, I would give them a 6 month vacation in jihazi land. Let’s see if they don’t have a better appreciation of America if they return.

Posted by: tgusa at October 25, 2006 10:58 AM

"theyre probably afraid of being bombed."

Yes, they don't want to have to rename themselves Bloody Borders.

Posted by: remote_control at October 25, 2006 10:59 AM

"Frank sez: My hunch is that people like Armstrong (and Esposito) are typical bourgeois types, in "therapy", or have been in "therapy" and taking medications that distort their minds and sense of reality.

Smoke gets in your eyes: They must live in Cal USA, where you can get a permit to grow your own meds."

Prof. John Esposito teaches at Georgetown University. Prior to that he taught in the Religious Studies Department at The College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, MA. He is firmly ensconsed in Jesuit institutions, which irritates me to no end, since I am an ex-Jesuit. Apparently he studied under Edward Said at Columbia. I have no information as to whether or not he enjoyed recreation drugs or was in psychotherapy.

I did not even bother to check my local Barnes and Noble bookstore for Robert's book. I purchased it at amazon.com. I don't have to pay for shipping, since it is well worth my while to pay the annual fee for free shipping. However, I am betting that Robert's book would not have been located in a prominent place. The bookstores are like the academic institutions, like the MSM, like the NEA, and like our State Department (Hello Ambassador Fernandez!): all one-trick ponies.

Posted by: FredIsinglass at October 25, 2006 11:06 AM

Want to really mess with them? Place the Qurans in the Gay and Lesbian section. :)
Posted by: desertdawg29palms

I agree!

Even more appropriate would be to place all the Qurans in the Occult section next to Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible...

...or in the True Crime section next to biographies of Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson.

Posted by: Provoslavni at October 25, 2006 11:16 AM

Robert may also want to see what's up with American Compass, I tried to look at book reviews for "Onward Muslim Soldiers" and the book could not be found in it's archives...

Posted by: CapnBob at October 25, 2006 11:19 AM

FredIsinglass,
I think you have an msm view of CAL. I am a Cal USA resident, its not all smoke and champagne here. Come to my neighborhood and see how many flags you notice hanging everywhere. That’s right, American flags next to Canadian flags, Marine Corp flags, US Navy flags, Army and Air Force flags everywhere. We are a tolerant group here, too tolerant at times but do not get us mad. My ancestors were minutemen, where are the minutemen coming from now? Cal, where else? Lets not bad mouth Cal. after all I see much more Anti Americanism coming from other parts of the country. In my area I had no problem locating The Truth about Muhammad.
http://www.homeofheroes.com/moh/states/ca.html

Posted by: tgusa at October 25, 2006 11:26 AM

Tell not merely the salesman on the floor or at the checkout counter, but the Manager, and then send an email to Borders, that you regard the deliberate difficulties placed on would-be buyers of "The Truth About Muhammad" and other books that do not toe the party line of apologetics, by the staff of Borders, as a very good reason not only for you, but for those you know and whom you think you can influence, to simply stop patronizing Borders altogether. Bookstores are worried about the competition from on-line sellers. Borders has so far managed to withstand better than most that competition. Put it on notice. Only 1% of the population in this country -- one hesitates to describe it as the American population at this point -- is Muslim. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the book-buying population is Muslim. Although members of MESA Nostra (which google) will no doubt complain when they visit the "Islam" sections of bookstores, they are part of the problem, and their indignation, upon finding books by Spencer, Bat Ye'or, Ibn Warraq, the anthology edited by Bostom, or "While Europe Slept" in the history section, can be safely dismissed.

Inflict, or threaten to inflict, permanent and large-scale economic damage on these bookstores. Have the matter taken up by the hosts of radio talk-show programs. Make it an issue. The public is being denied the possibility, as much as possible, of finding out certain obvious home truths about Muhammad. Bookstores and publishers, and even certain reviewing organs in the apparently permanent control of Muslim sympathizers, or the determined cabal of Muslim reviewers who work fulltime damning the good and praising the bad at Amazon -- would anyone be surprised to discover that some are on the payroll of Muslim organizations and states? -- have done their damnedest to make it as difficult as possible for non-Muslims, in the United States as elsewhere, to inform themselves -- without having to rely on such people as John Esposito and Karen Armstrong, or the members of MESA Nostra, or the good doctors of CAIR.

Make your views known clearly -- that you will make every effort to take your business, and that of everyone who listens to you, elsewhere, if there is no clear change in policy.

Posted by: Hugh at October 25, 2006 11:27 AM

Same thing at my Border's. Armstrong's book is right up front on the "new non-fiction" table. I haven't seen the "Truth" at that Borders at all, although I didn't go looking in obscure corners of the store for it either.

BTW: "America Alone" was consigned to the politics and government section, where I found only two copies. Mark Steyn says that that the major chains in Canada won't even stock his book, despite the fact that it's #2 at Amazon Canada and #8 in the states.

If you browse the featured books up front, aside from Ann Coulter, there aren't any conservative books at all.

Posted by: sonomaca at October 25, 2006 11:42 AM

An example of subtle impediments to a person's learning curve about the POI (the Problem of Islam): my friend, a college graduate and lifelong Democrat, has shown -- from many long conversations we have had in the last three years -- a remarkable readiness and willingness intellectually to grasp the POI as a problem directly related to Islam itself; yet he persists in believing that Karen Armstrong is a respectable scholar.

Posted by: remote_control at October 25, 2006 11:53 AM

tgusa

I was quoting (see my quotation marks around the first part of my post)"duh_swahmi" in his post above mine. So, my comment was not about California, per se. I was merely pointing out the fact that John Esposito is an Eastern Moonbat Dhimmi - and a Jesuit one at that! (he's a layman at Georgetown, but I consider lay faculty part of the Society's mission too). I met John Esposito many years ago at a social function at The College of the Holy Cross. Interesting guy, but apparently not very deeply read in Islamic scripture and theology. Typical of his generation of academics: they were allowed to shuck and jive their way to their Ph.D.'s.

Posted by: FredIsinglass at October 25, 2006 11:56 AM

Borders should just change its name to Dhimmi.

Posted by: Fleiter at October 25, 2006 12:06 PM

So typical of dhimmi Borders. Several month ago My daughter called the local Borders store manager to complain about them not carrying the magazine with the cartoons, as well as putting the coran on the top shelf in the religion section because some imman demanded it. Unbelievable but true, his response was "We are concerned for the safety of our employees". Translation: Moslems will become violent if they feel offended and if their demands are not met. Boycott this cowardly business!

Posted by: threatened-species at October 25, 2006 12:08 PM

Sorry about that, I guess it didn’t register until I heard it a second time. I completely missed the quotes, I must be tired. As you can tell that hits a raw nerve in me, especially as of late. Also, I have encountered a lot of Cals here at JW. I wouldn’t be surprised if we were number one among posters/lurkers, us or Texas.

Posted by: tgusa at October 25, 2006 12:10 PM

I am not surprised by the Dhimmi behavior of our major bookstores. I sort of expect it as a matter of course. Plus, since they are private businesses, they can conduct those businesses as they see fit. Nevertheless, the fact that Robert's book is a bestseller DESPITE the oppositional behavior of so many institutions and enterprises betokens the health of the nation. And we can only build on this growing awareness from here - despite the best efforts of his Leftist and Islamic detractors.

It takes time for the truth to make the rounds. I know some people do not think we have the luxury of time, but I believe we do. At some point even academics like Esposito have to retire and just go away, leaving behind the hollow legacy of running interference for a deadly enemy of civilization. That's not a legacy I would want to be remembered by.

Posted by: FredIsinglass at October 25, 2006 12:17 PM

Hands off of California! We don't sip kool aid with our granola out here.

Posted by: desertdawg29palms at October 25, 2006 12:21 PM

"he persists in believing that Karen Armstrong is a respectable scholar."
-- from a posting above

Why? What has she studied? And when? A hysterical ex-nun with a score to settle with Christianity, and an ill-concealed animus toward Judaism and Jews, expressed in her propagandistic work on Jerusalem (in which "three faiths" -- oh, she loves that "three faiths" business -- are held to have claims identical in duration and scope and signficance to Jerusalem), she flits from book to book. Now a little thing on Christianity, and now something on Islam in which she manages to allude to exactly one hadith, the one that is not in Bukhari or Muslim, the one about that "lesser Jihad" and the "greater Jihad." And then books on Jerusalem, and Buddhism, and wasn't there on her own terribly fascinating Spiritual Search or Spiritual Travails or Spiritual Hide-and-Seek? Yes, and now its back, one mo' time, to the subject of Muhammad, that great man, or as Karen Armstrong has found him, truly -- uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil.

She's not merely an idiot, but easily seen to be such. This is not a difficult matter. Take her book on Islam. Take a pen. Start marking in the margins.

Then read your marginalia aloud. No, it won't sound like Coleridge reflecting on German philosophers. It will sound more like "che cretino" or "this is completely false" or "on what basis does she call Muhammad a bringer of peace" or "!!!" or "good God" or...fill in other possibilities here, with "nonsense on stilts" or "Christ on a crutch" or "vzdor" or "treve de betises" or whatever other phrases naturally come to your mind, whatever your native tongue, and whatever you claim or believe you believe, or if you are a permanent non-believer in anything at all except your wits, which you have kept about you and by which, alas, you must live.

Posted by: Hugh at October 25, 2006 12:22 PM

All of these posts prove what a bunch of BS comes out of Islamania and its lapdogs when they claim that the Jews control All of the media or that the media is SO anti-Muslim. I guess this means the Jews don't want the scoop on Mo either seeing how well his philosophy has treated them thus far.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at October 25, 2006 12:56 PM

"Armstrong demonstrates that Muhammad's life—a pivot point in history—has genuine relevance to the global crises we face today."

How's that then? In that he's the bloody source of them?

Geoff

Posted by: Geoff at October 25, 2006 1:05 PM

I had the same experience at Barnes and Noble in NYC. Here it was on the top floor of the Union Square store (way in the back of the floor I might add) and not readily visible at that. I think Regnery should complain to such booksellers since they are losing sales opportunities were the book more well displayed.

Posted by: lonewolf at October 25, 2006 1:20 PM

It seems fitting that Spencer’s book is in the history section as it is the “Truth about Muhammad" and Armstrong’s is in the religion section where adherents and believers look for the myths.

Posted by: JasonP at October 25, 2006 1:57 PM

What timing. I walked into a Barnes and Noble yesterday, spotted all 4 of Roberts new book BEHIND another large book ("You Are Being Lied To" how ironic) on the very bottom shelf of the current events section...on the farthest wall from the front doors to the store.

I couldn't help but be a complete smartass regarding this hide-and-seek crap with a floor manager. I asked if it was store policy to turn finding NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER LIST books into Easter egg hunts. I then went into full asshole mode, requested he make it a priority to find me "The Truth About Muhammad" while I sat down for coffee.

Meanwhile...

I own one of those Acer laptops with the flip around tablet screen and while the manager spread out to find Roberts new book, I ordered two copies of "The Truth About Muhammad" from Amazon.

After 10 minutes, the manager brought Roberts book to me from back room stock and apologized for the "delay". I was curious as to why this best seller listed book was NOT at the front of the store and I think until the moment I showed the manager my Amazon purchase screen, he thought I was some kind of quality control supervisor.

He promptly asked me to leave the store when he realized I had no intention of buying from them.

I smiled and finished my coffee slowly instead.

Posted by: Quantum Infidel at October 25, 2006 2:04 PM

In Redlands Ca, found at Barnes & Noble in the Religion section: to be precise it was on the end-cap and they had about 20 copies.

I'm about 50 miles from the L.A. granola demographic, in what some would describe as the desert rat demographic.

Posted by: deesine at October 25, 2006 2:04 PM

Yesterday i visited the local Borders store with the intent to buy Robert`s book...
I had i Borders gift certificate for $35 and i wanted to put it to good use.
After looking for the book and being unable to find it,i asked one of the Borders staff to help me locate the book.
The most incredible thing,was the fact that at exactly the same time,4 other persons were also looking for the same book.
The Border staff told all of us that they do have the book,but he cannot locate it and he advised us to go try at another book store...

Posted by: adela at October 25, 2006 2:18 PM

At the Barnes & Noble I frequent in Central Virginia, I found a single copy of Robert's book hiding in the "Current Events" section. On the other hand, you can find Armstrong's book in the Islam section under "Eastern Religions".

Another interesting observation is that the "P.I.G. to Islam (and the Crusades)" was prominently displayed on the top shelf of the Current Events section and on its New Arrivals table. Not so for the current book.

Posted by: Mike at October 25, 2006 2:21 PM

Tgusa, Desertdawg29palms, et al,

I live in the Deep South, and happen to really love the California Republic! The problem is that you Californians built such a pleasant and generous society, that so many wackos decided to move there. Now all that gets into the media are these ex-hippies and liberal flakes while you real Californians get ignored. I sincerely hope that you can change this.

Posted by: Provoslavni at October 25, 2006 2:36 PM

Print out business cards that say "Don't believe the whitewash of Islam.Find the facts at www.jihadwatch.org " then covertly place them in Karen Armstrong new Mohammad book.Information Guerrilla Warfare.Fight back.

Posted by: RED at October 25, 2006 2:55 PM

DennisW stated:

"...new biography of Muhammad will enable readers to understand the true origins and spirituality of a faith that is all too often misrepresented as cruel, intolerant, and inherently violent."

Question for DennisW: Are you suggesting that "true Islam" is not reflected by the intolerate, psychotic ravings and carnage by millions of Muslims worldwide? Those of us who are experiencing reality see "true Islam" as a cruel, intolerant, and inherently violent religion, even (or especially) toward those who (mistakenly?) practice a "liberal/moderate" form of Islam within a Muslim majority nation.

I will go futher and assert that there is a quite small minority of Muslim in the world who do not at least sympathize with the desires of the violent/conquest minded majority.

Posted by: Moochie at October 25, 2006 2:58 PM

Why are you all so surprised by this? Have you seen the freaks working at bookstores these days? Hippies, goth kids and rastafari-wannabes.

To them, Robert's book is a hate crime.

Posted by: Know Your Enemy at October 25, 2006 3:01 PM

Funny, I had the exact same experience in Austin 2 weeks ago. After searching for at least 15 minutes I finally found ONE copy on the bottom shelf in the Non-fiction New Release section, not middle-east studies or current affairs, etc. I found it very odd at the time as well.

Posted by: IOWarrrior at October 25, 2006 3:21 PM

Tgusa-

You forgot the Mexico flags…you must live in a better area than I did. More OTMs are leaving CAL than ever before because it is overrun with illegals (80 hospitals have closed their doors in the last 10 years).

http://www.newswithviews.com/Cosman/madeleine3.htm

I lived in the LA metro area for years after my service in the military and found it very difficult to raise children there (drive by shootings and big wheels don’t mix). Although I have hundreds of friends there that I miss dearly, I won’t go back to live on the left coast. I’ve seen reports that Shukrijumah was spotted near Lake Isabella and the Culver City mosque I lived a few blocks from has quite a reputation itself. I would’ve loved to see the figurative hanging of Bin Ladin a while back. All I’m saying is I hope you’re in a gated community. All of CAL is not as you see it. Props to you for stickin’ it out. I do miss the weather though!

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at October 25, 2006 3:50 PM

"Print out business cards that say "Don't believe the whitewash of Islam.Find the facts at www.jihadwatch.org " then covertly place them in Karen Armstrong new Mohammad book."

Posted by
@RED (October 25, 2006 02:55 PM)

SWEET! The single, most practical suggestion I have ever read on this website. What could be cheaper, easier, and less dangerous in getting the word out to those who need it most?

And why stop at Armstrong? I'm going to put them in Korans and the other hagiographic biographies of the unholy prophet. It'll cost $12 for a thousand.

12 dollar--make me holler!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at October 25, 2006 3:56 PM

Why are you all so surprised by this? Have you seen the freaks working at bookstores these days? Hippies, goth kids and rastafari-wannabes.

This is so true. I forgot what they looked like, it's been so long since I've been in there, but now that you mention it, they do really wear their politics on their sleeves, pun intended.

Ah yes, nothing like the enlightened world views, and social values, of bookstore staff.

The Christian Fiction section. How did it get there? Perhaps it was Connor, 22, a white kid with a rasta hair net and a Bob Marley T-shirt who is a social studies major. Although he was born after we found out who shot J.R., and is not familiar with any world event prior to the year 2000, he has been reading the newspaper for almost 6 months now as part of his course. He knows the score.

Or perhaps Robert's book has run afoul of a 20 year old, pasty-white, depressed goth girl with a nose ring, Shannon, who repudiates her Irish Catholic heritage and its systemic racism, and who is now working at the bookstore to earn enough money to buy a plane ticket to visit Africa for 6 months to do some charity work in an Aids village in Burkina Faso. She knows what drives world events. Last year she went to a U2 concert.

And if it wasn't her, perhaps it was Paul, the over-the-hill John Lennon wannabe, who claims to have been at woodstock as a 17 year old, but nobody knows for sure, and who used to have his own art studio over an auto garage, but since he broke up with Trevor, can't make the rent so he now he's moved into his sister's basement where he does his nude water colors on the side while working at the bookstore to make some money to help out with groceries, and to buy some pot from Connor, the Rasta hair net kid, who works the evening shift.

These people, Robert, these intellectual titans, these scholars of islam, they are the ones who decide if your book is good or bad, right or wrong, and subsequently, where it goes.

These people are so far to the Left, Jimmy Carter couldn't do a book signing there without being pelted with eggs and insults of 'zionist fascist' for shaking Begin's hand 30 years ago. Even though, only one of the three has even heard of Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: August22 at October 25, 2006 4:11 PM

I walked into a Barnes & Noble on the Georgia Tech campus in Atlanta GA on the day Robert Spencer's new book came out.

It was not on the new non-fiction table up front (or any tables for that matter), but a few copies were found elsewhere. I can't remember the section, but I remember it seemed relevent to the content (Religion - Islam, or something like that).

I don't believe not having the book on display on the front tables was intentional malice on the part of management there, because Bill O'Reilly and Anne Coulter were as prominent in display at the storefront as any new liberal books that were out.

To me, it just seemed like the store employees hadn't changed the storefront tables in a few days. I didn't get the feeling that opinion management was at play.

I'm sending this post because while there are a lot of posts on issues with stores stocking The Truth About Muhammad, not every slight (real or imagined) is intentional. Book stores do have to shuffle through a large volume of books on a daily basis.

For the record, I read Robert Spencer's writing often and am often in agreement. And to be fair, I'm not at all familiar with Karen Armstrong, so I didn't look for placement of her book by comparison.

Posted by: Stratford at October 25, 2006 4:12 PM

Agreed Provoslavni,
My Mother was born and raised in the deep south, then came west. I still have a lot of relatives living there. Regarding the wacko’s, we are working on it but they are, in their insanity much more entertaining to the media.

XRDC,
I have to admit, moving has crossed my mind but I can’t figure out where to go. I’d like a place where taxes are low and patriotism is high. You know, somewhere where they don’t hide the Truth about Muhammad. Any ideas anyone?

Posted by: tgusa at October 25, 2006 4:26 PM

tgusa-

The midwest is full of good sports mostly Americans. Most people take what they see in the news at face value. The things I hear come out of the mouths of seemingly intelligent people never cease to amaze me. Still, that at least means they will listen to people like us who are tuned in to the Islamization of the West.

Perhaps the Tancredo district in Colorado would not be bad. Many CA transplants are in Colorado.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at October 25, 2006 4:44 PM

"These people, Robert, these intellectual titans, these scholars of islam, they are the ones who decide if your book is good or bad, right or wrong, and subsequently, where it goes".

Posted by August22

Sad if true. Many books have a classification printed somewhere on the cover usually on the back at the very bottom. I'd suggest laws making it illegal for bookstores or pipsqueaks on their staff to reclassify them on their own whims, but then we'd have another beauracracy on the loose - the book inspection police. Arghh! LOL, just what anyone needs!

Perhaps a better suggestion might be this: Anyone offended by this kind of behaviour should complain loudly to the management and remind them that books can also be purchased on-line these days, bypassing bookstores altogether, if they're going to inconvenience their customers by making them go on Easter egg hunts for the items they're interested in. If nothing else, this can be evidence of just plain sloppiness. But I also think that Stratford makes a good point, so personally, I'd do this only if there's evidence of a pattern in which things like this happen repeatedly, rather than assume right away that its evidence of bias.

One question for August22: If you haven't been in a bookstore in so long, how do you know so much about the staff who work there? Actually, I've been in a several bookstores lately and I can't remember anything unusual about the staff. As a matter of fact, some definitely come across as notably mainstream and conservative.

Posted by: templar at October 25, 2006 4:50 PM

"Karen Armstrong's immaculately researched..."

im‧mac‧u‧late 
–adjective
1. free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean
=================================================

Kind of sums it up

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at October 25, 2006 5:06 PM

At my local Barnes and Nobles, I have found that something similar is done with Robert Spencer's Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades. It is not placed in the Islam section, but rather in a section where one would not look first. At least once I picked up a copy and moved it to the Islam section.

Posted by: traeh at October 25, 2006 5:31 PM

Bookstore staff made some value judgements.

More likely customers moved the book. Bookstore staff would be unlikely to put it in "Christian fiction."

Posted by: traeh at October 25, 2006 5:35 PM

If you haven't been in a bookstore in so long, how do you know so much about the staff who work there?

Templar, you take the fun out of things.

All characters and situations are fictional. Any similiarity to person or persons, living or dead, is strictly coincidental. All rights reserved. 2006

Posted by: August22 at October 25, 2006 5:45 PM

"A blue liberal is a stoned liberal".-duh_swami-

I think you are right. Folks like Robert and Hugh scratch their heads in wonder at the lack of logic and sometimes the malice of these types (Armstrong, Esposito, etc.) who ignore the reality of their senses and see what they desire to see. However, I would not at all be surprised if the explanation isn't in antidepressants like Prozac. The mind altering nature of beliefs treated as fact and drugs appear similar in many respects. There is a tendency to ignore reality and a remarkable tendency to bad judgement when the mind is altered by either.

Though there is no way to prove this theory (of these people being on meds), it does provide one explanation for their denial of reality and the consequent bad judgement they demonstrate. The belief that some are on Prozac is not a fact, but it would be no surprise to me if it turned out to be a fact.

Posted by: Frank at October 25, 2006 5:48 PM

Bookstore staff would be unlikely to put it in "Christian fiction."

No, of course not. They would never stoop to that level.

Posted by: August22 at October 25, 2006 5:49 PM

I have not bought anything in a borders since they started placing the koran on the top shelve (I do stop in now and again and move them). I bought my copy on-line and started reading it Sunday, great book btw. I saw this thread earlier and asked a friend on active duty to check the library at the United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) he confirmed they do have copies and they are signed out. I was thrilled but forgot to ask how many they had and if they had all Roberts books or just The Truth About Muhammad. Anyway, I wanted to post some good news, I am glad they have them and ask they hurry and read them so others can have a look.

Posted by: Ronin at October 25, 2006 5:50 PM

Frank, Prozaz is not a drug that affects perception of reality. It doesn't even alter your mood. It alleviates tension or nervousness.

You are talking about LSD or PCP. Armstrong and Esposito are on Angel Dust.

Posted by: August22 at October 25, 2006 5:54 PM

Re:The Truth About Muhammad: It could be anywhere

Except for those who do not see reality for some reason. People who see reality coolly look at the facts.

Posted by: Frank at October 25, 2006 5:57 PM

Prozaz is not a drug that affects perception of reality. It doesn't even alter your mood. It alleviates tension or nervousness.

Prozac lessens depression, according to a friend of mine who was depressed all her life to the point of having difficulty functioning. Prozac didn't erase the depression completely, but lifted it enough that she became much more functional.

Posted by: traeh at October 25, 2006 6:01 PM

August22-

Thanks for the info. I do not know much about drugs that alter perception. But I've noted that some people who take medication seem to have an altered sense of reality-are zombi like. Probably you are right-and it's worse than I suspect re Esposito, etc-LOL. Anyway, it's a theory in trying to figure out these people and their denial of the facts on this issue.

Posted by: Frank at October 25, 2006 6:10 PM

"The Truth about Mohammed" was in the Middle East history section at Borders; while "Behind the Veil" was in the religious section under Islam. Funny enough, I actually couldn't find the book by Karen Armstrong.

Posted by: Monkeywho at October 25, 2006 6:27 PM

I take Paxil, which is an anti-depressant, but don't let that term fool you. Anti-depressants treat depression, or they also treat anxiety disorders or anything in that realm. You could be happy-go-lucky, but also suffer from occasional undue anxiety, which would necessitate the same drug.

I suffer from a occasional but terrible gastrointestinal symptoms, which I found out were not organic-based, but neurological. Paxil, an anti-depressant, corrects that problem. It has not altered my perception of reality. I still know who the bad guys are. LOL

Posted by: August22 at October 25, 2006 6:29 PM

Re: psychiatric drugs and political leanings:

If either party had reason to believe there existed a pill that would turn its users over to their viewpoint, the second that party had a majority in the House/Senate, it would pass laws to make that medication available:

1. Over-the-counter.
2. Very inexpensive.
3. Available in cherry, strawberry-banana, mango, and Grape-a-licious (TM).
4. Also approved to treat the common cold.

Posted by: MarisolJW at October 25, 2006 7:01 PM

Ynkedoodl2-

I think you meant to say anagiographic or pornographic biographies of the unholy prophet...

hagiographic=holy writing
anagiographic=unholy writing
pornographic=evil writing

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia at October 25, 2006 7:11 PM

l have not had a chance to go to the local Chapters books store, the owners are x liberal party people from Canada. after the liberal party balked at calling the Hezbollah boys terrorist, the liberal owners of Chapter who also happen to be Jewish, who were also big money contributers for the Cdn liberal party, are now backers of Harper's Conservative party. took them a while to see the light. any how this weekend l will take a gander at the local Chapters and see if Robert's book is out. l have ordered on line, but to make a point will order a book at the store just to make sure they know about it.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at October 25, 2006 7:13 PM

Well, if this is how it works, I think that if I buy a copy of Mr. Spencer's book, I'll go straight to Regenery's website.

Posted by: Kepha at October 25, 2006 7:26 PM

At my local Borders, I noticed the same thing. I don't know that it's an anti-Robert conspiracy, however. In the Islam section, 'Islam Unveiled' was there, as well as books by Ibn Warraq and Irshad Manji. However, I couldn't find PIG in any bookstore over the last several months, so finally, I just bought it at Amazon. As for 'The Truth about Muhammad' book, the day it was released, I visited my local borders and found it, like Paul above, in the Middle East History section.

In the past, for a couple of months, I used to work at a technical bookstore. When there was a book that could be categorized in 2 or more ways, we'd put a few copies in each appropriate section, so that the customer looking for it would find it regardless of where (s)he thought it would be found. Similarly, given that Muhammad can be categorized both in terms of Islam the religion, as well as Islamic history, it's not inappropriate of Borders to have put in in the history section. However, doing it, but not making it available in the Islam section was inane, particularly given that they did put other books critical of Islam in the Islam section.

Here's a way around it. Under the category of religion, why not have a category called 'Religion Criticism', and in that section, have books critical of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Rasfarantianism and Islam?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at October 25, 2006 7:56 PM

I didn't buy it from Borders, since I already had the Truth about Muhammad and PIG and the Islam DVD on order at Amazon. Saved cash too, and since I got to Amazon from here,...

Posted by: Infidel Pride at October 25, 2006 7:59 PM

Useful Idiot at the United Nations:

The ex-nun Karen Armstrong, who presumed to write books on Islam & Muhammad and who in her latest tome "The Great Transformation" called Islam a flowering of the Axial Age enlightenment and a religion with compassion as its basic message, has profited well from writing the sugar nonsense most people want to believe. She has been appointed "Historian of Religion" on a high level commission for "Alliance of Civilizations" at the UN.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2005/sgsm10073.doc.htm

Posted by: FM at October 25, 2006 8:07 PM

Karen Armstrong's works should be filed in the Science Fiction section of all bookshops and libraries that choose to waste their space with them.

Maybe Ms. Armstrong will now tell us what we're all dying to know: what the hell did Muhammed prophecize anyway??? (That, maybe, blood will spurt from the corpses of decapitated, murdered infidels?).

But more likely, she won't.

Posted by: pythagoras at October 25, 2006 8:11 PM

This is not the first time something like this has happened to a book that some Borders employees did not want people to read.--

During the last Presidential election I wanted to read a copy of "Unfit For Command," the expose of John Kerry by members of the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. Mysteriously, my local library system, usually on top of things and flush with book buying money which they used to buy multiple copies of books in the news, didn't have a single copy. When I tried to buy a copy I found the local book chains, Borders especially, played the same tune--always on order, never to be found, while piles of several hagiographies of Kerry were right up front on the first table. When I asked at Border's I was told that they had just run out, that more were on order but that all those books were already spoken for but, something didn't smell right. I suspected that Border's employees were trying to block readers from reading this book, so I went looking on the net for a telephone number where I could lodge a compliant with Border's national management.

Somehow, I stumbled onto a union website for Border's employees from all over the country and a section of that website had an employee chat room where employees could talk about their concerns, exchange views,etc.

What I saw, when I started to read the Border's employees comments, was that several of the dumber Borders employees from different areas of the country were bragging about how they were making sure that "Unfit for Command" was never in stock or unfindable and they shared their methods of achieving this--hide the books in the back room, don't put them on display, misfile them, damage them on arrival so the books were never displayed but were, instead, thrown in the discard pile. Several other Border's posters warned them about discussing this information in the chat room but, to no avail. These several posters were very candid about the contempt and hatred they felt for their customers in general and particularly all the presumably conservative customers who had asked for this book and how much pleasure they took in making sure they never got hold of "Unfit for Command."

Well, I didn't find a number that was useful but I did find a web address so I complained to Borders and also posted the Border's chat room website address on a number of likely websites and, lo and behold, in a day or so the union chat room suddenly disappeared but, despite several visits to my local Borders, "Unfit for Command" still never made it to the front of the store before the election.

Next, I tried to buy a copy on Amazon, only to find that someone had monkeyed with the listing for "Unfit for Command" by changing the book cover so it was lauditory of Kerry. This time I got an actual person at Amazon who, when I explained the problem, told me that, because of their security precautions, no one from outside Amazon could have changed the listing or cover art for the book--you figure it out.

Posted by: GaryK at October 25, 2006 8:12 PM

I'm posting a little late in response to this, but here is part of an email I sent Mr, Spencer yesterday (I live in the SF Bay Area, by the way):

"I thought you might be interested to know about a slight difficulty I encountered when I tried to purchase your book today at my local Border's.... I went to the Islamic Studies section, where I found several biographies of Muhammad by Muslim writers as well as Karen Armstrong, etc. I also found one of your previous books. (I believe it was "Islam Unveiled". Interestingly, both that book and Ibn Warraq's "Why I Am Not a Muslim" had been turned so that their pages, rather than the spines, faced outward--not surprisingly, given the large and very vocal Muslim community in my city.) I could not see your latest book anywhere, so I finally asked a store employee for help. She looked it up on her computer and said, "Oh, yes, we have it in Middle Eastern History." She led me to that section, where I was gratified to see several copies of the book. However, I am sure many other potential purchasers will simply conclude Borders is not stocking the book at all, or that it has sold out.... I found it odd, to say the least, that at least four other biographies of the man were all in Islamic Studies (and, I might add, placed at or near eye-level, whereas one had to stoop down to see your book in the MEH area). I took two copies and placed them on the shelf of the Islamic Studies area, where I hope someone may buy them before another customer removes them." So, more evidence of this happening nationwide.

Posted by: kaffirchick at October 25, 2006 8:30 PM

Truthfully, I am only minimally interested in the juvenile antics of bookstore management and employees, because if I want a book badly enough I will find a way to get it. For example, ordering the book on Barnes' and Noble's website is a lot easier than having to hunt it down in the bookstore. As for Border's, well, their Moonbat reputation precedes them, which is why on certain subjects I would not go out of my way to find a book by Robert, Bat Ye'or, Andrew Bostom, or Ann Coulter there. There are many web sites where you can get these books, sometimes at prices lower than in the brick and mortar outlets.

Look, even though these imitators of the ostrich seem to rule the day, their day is actually long past. You guys may not see it yet, but I do. Their ideas are defeated, even if this is not playing out in the mainstream as overtly as we would like it to be. People like Esposito and Armstrong may have more cache in certain quarters, but their what pass for ideas are deader than a doornail.

As one who was a student of ideas many years ago (Philosophy), I know the difference between the tip of the spear (Spencer, Ye'or, Bostom, Trifkofic, et al)and faded, on the way out "conventional wisdom."

Posted by: FredIsinglass at October 25, 2006 8:35 PM

I just checked Amazon.com for sales rankings between these two books:

Robert Spencer: The Truth About Muhammad

Sales rank: #67

Karen Armstrong: Muhammad, A Prophet For Our Time

Sales rank: #12,430

Posted by: DCWatson at October 25, 2006 8:41 PM

12,430 bwahahahahaha!

Posted by: MP at October 25, 2006 8:53 PM

I know of bookstores that do not have Robert's (or other critics like Ibn Warraq) popular books on the shelf, won't display them, but have a few copies in storage in case someone orders.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2006 9:06 PM

"Print out business cards that say "Don't believe the whitewash of Islam.Find the facts at www.jihadwatch.org " then covertly place them in Karen Armstrong new Mohammad book."

"SWEET! The single, most practical suggestion I have ever read on this website."

Just make sure you don't get the cards printed out at a copy store staffed by "youths" who look like Fareed Zakaria.

Posted by: remote_control at October 25, 2006 9:43 PM

Hooray. I found The Truth About Muhammad in the front, under new non fiction in a Borders in lower Manhattan.

Posted by: pigtails not veils at October 25, 2006 11:25 PM

Hugh, it may do some good to complain to the bookstore manager about the failure to prominently display, or stock, Robert's book and similar works. I say "May" because, as has been pointed out, bookstore types have a political view, and it is almost always left-liberal-secular-etc.

It also MAY do some good to contact the corporate headquarters. But the real power in retailing lies elsewhere.

In the retail universe, the real power is at the District Office. This is where performance is tracked, and logistics are determined. The District Manager (in some chains, referred to as the Regional Manager) does not want to hear that the customers of such-and-such store are dis-satisfied, and that books are out of stock or hard to find or that store PERSONNEL ARE NOT HELPFUL, and they know that anyone smart enough to find THEM at the district office is going to be a Trouble-Maker. He knows that only about 10 percent of the population is responsible for almost ALL the book sales in the United States, and bookstores operate on very thin margins with lots of unsold merchandise. The District Manager has no political agenda, but being in management he or she is driven by numbers, numbers, numbers, sales, sales, sales, operating margin, net margin, return on equity, inventory turnover, and doesn't give a rat's ass about some little clerk's personal political preferences and wonders how they ever got past the employment screening and drug test in the first place.

Jihadwatchers should call the district office. And, they can tell the store manager that they intend to do so if not satisfied with the display of the works of our favorite author(s). This does get their attention. Especially if one is very nice about it, and comes across a infinitely patient and determined. Each store manager competes with the other store managers for bonuses and other recognition. It is the District Office that passes judgment.

Oh, and I think the idea of putting the Koran in with the occult works is hilarious. It it now my secret mission.

Posted by: texan at October 26, 2006 12:34 AM

I went to my local Barnes and Noble to pick up Robert's book and first looked for it in the biography section. When I didn't see it there I went to customer service and they took me to the Current Events section, where they had about two dozen copies, faced out on the shelf.

Gratified, I bought a copy and thanked them. I think they should put it also in the biography section, but was glad they had it anyway.

Posted by: atheling at October 26, 2006 1:11 AM

Dsinc!!!

Glad to see another person from SOUTH AFRICA on this site!

Spread the word of this site at home.... i have a feeling that, sooner rather than later, the south african muslims are gonna start causing difficulties for us non-muslims, on the same scale as in europe and the states etc...

Even though south african muslims are generally pretty non-violent compared to muslims abroad, we all also know that it is not, nor ever will be a reliable indicator of future behaviour or attitude towards any non-muslims.
So lets do our bit to educate as many southern africans as possible to the true nature if islam!

To Robert Spencer:

I also tried to get a copy of your latest book, but no book stores that i know of in south africa are planning to stock the truth about Mo.

Are you or the publishers planning to distribute some copies to the southern tip of africa eg south africa?

i think your books are important for everyone to read!!!

I also strongly believe, due to the fact that the current world events are increasingly gathering momentum on a daily basis, that each and every single person on this planet will have to very very soon deal with Satan's master plan to deceive all of us, called ISLAM!

Posted by: Mohammed-Sux at October 26, 2006 6:18 AM

Karen Armstrong places her articles in anthologies backed by big money and high prestige. Consider the 2 volume "Ottoman Jerusalem", sponsored by Prince Charles of Wales, Rafik Hariri, the Jerusalem Muslim Waqf, etc., and supervised by the British School of Archeology in Jerusalem. See link:

http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/09/jerusalem-population-in-19th-century.html

The book has some use in that it presents an Arab source a Jewish majority in Jerusalem as of 1874. Armstrong's article is her usual mixture of sweet goo and 2nd grade teacher pedantry.

Posted by: Eliyahu at October 26, 2006 7:19 AM

. . . an Arab source FOR a Jewish majority . . .
This source is one Nu`aman al-Qasatli.

Posted by: Eliyahu at October 26, 2006 7:22 AM

I found “Truth” in a midtown Barnes & Noble (Citigroup atrium) on a ground floor “new books” table. It was on the “Current Events” table instead of the “History” table. By the way, I didn’t see Armstrong’s book anywhere in sight. They did have a larger pile of Sam Harris’ latest and tons of books on Iraq, Bush, etc. But “Muhammad” is there as a “Current Event.” At least it's there! B&N will get my business.

Posted by: JasonP at October 26, 2006 8:41 AM

If Mohammed was alive today he would fit in with Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao, Uncle Joe Stalin and all of History's other infamous murderers and despots. As time goes by the truth of Mohammed's life and horrible attrocities will come to light. Muslims will then turn away in droves and abandon this primitive ideology. They will realize how backward and manipulated they have been for centuries by crazy imams and mullahs and other false witchdoctors. They will eventually wake up to the facts that Mohammed was a crazy man fixated with power, lust, enslaver of women, slaver, murderer, rapist, and revenge against mankind. Really, how could God write the koran. More than a stretch of primitive imagination is required to believe this. Mohammed told a down out lie! And muslim primitives believe it. That is why they must be destroyed.

Posted by: Truthseeker at October 26, 2006 9:35 AM

The Truth About Mohammed wasn't avilable at the Borders in Athens, Ga either -- though some of Spencer's other books were on the shelf.
The other book about Mohammed by Karen Armstrong was front and center though...

From comments it seems obvious the Borders has a 'issue' or Islamic friendly part-owner who doen't like negative talk of the prophet -- at a cost to the profit.
-- Glad to hear the book is out selling Armstong's though.

Posted by: Court1 at October 26, 2006 11:00 AM

You would think that sensible muslims (wherever they are) could see how monstrous a so-called religion

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The better part of humanity ARE going to have religion in their lives of some sort -- more so to religion with a hefty structure and history, even if it is absurd. The cult aspects of Islam make it even more likely to get worse in our culture.
The spiritual bucket of people is none to critical of the slop that gets thrown in it -- and very little is ever pitched out.
It's a genetic thing that cuts across racial lines. The most incredulous Athiest here I'll bet a has a close relative who lives for Christ.
It doesn't help either when Bush and all other Western leaders make statements reinforcing the integrity or viability of Islam ... such really cuts any home grown apostates to Islam off at he knees.

Posted by: Court1 at October 26, 2006 11:12 AM

I've been hearing about a 12th Century Berber prophecy that foretells the return of Mohammend's favorite wife, Aisha. It say she will come to show men how they have fallen into error. "She will speak to all nations in words writ on wind. They will ride the lightning; they will be as shooting stars." Sounds like it's also foretelling the internet. Maybe that's what she's waiting for? It says she's coming with an angry sword-bearing angel named Qaila who'll send any who try to silence her to hell. Do I belive this? Hey, I'd like to. Maybe a Muslim Joan of Arc is just what we need now.

Posted by: Rada299 at October 26, 2006 11:52 AM

The Chapters in my neighbourhood doesn't have it in stock but it's in their computer system and can be ordered. I don't order from Chapters because they deliver to your home and it's a major hassle, plus the books I want will suddenly be on back order for the next three months.

If a clerk in Chapters tells me, "It's not in stock but we can order it for you," I tell them, "I'll order it from Amazon: it'll probably be cheaper, too."

When Art Spiegelman wrote an article in The New Yorker magazine about the Danish cartoons, I couldn't find it in Chapters, but Book City carried it.

Posted by: Josephine at October 26, 2006 1:19 PM

The local Barnes & Noble did not have Robert's book although there wre several by Armstrong in evidence.

Posted by: GaryK at October 26, 2006 3:26 PM

it doesn't matter what christian bin-ladens like the contributors on this site think about muhammad. muslims know who their prophet is. and they continue to love him.
the fact remains that christians are responsible for more human deaths and suffering throughout human history compared to islam.
and i dare say from i believe christians will maintain this record into the future. from what i see on sites like this.. very soon there will be a new crusade,just like in the middle ages, and this time they will have 1.5 billion muslims to masaccare..
muslims are bad but they're better than christians. at least they will let you live as a dhimmi. but with christians your only option is death.

see rwanda:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53018-2002Sep22.html

Posted by: otaru at October 26, 2006 7:35 PM

Someone mentioned early in the comments that three Borders stores in Tampa had only three copies. Move on out to Brandon. I stopped in the store off Lumsden yesterday, it was in the Islamic history section (five copies), it was on the new hardcover releases wall (at least ten copies), and it was a third place, too, I just can't remember now. But I also made sure it was liberally sprinkled in the Islam section, too.

Posted by: longtime lurker at October 26, 2006 8:02 PM

-otaru,

Why don't you try posting your pro-mohammedan tu-quoque bullshit on an active thread? Try pushing your delusion where more posters might actually see it and refute it.

Of course, that's not what your kind does, is it?
You'd just rather see your garbage on your screen and you can't stand seeing your "argument" shot down.

Christians have killed more than mohammedans?
That would be laughable if people like you weren't so dangerous. You are right about one thing though. The time to deal with the mohammedans will come. Your kind too.

And btw, Rwanda was a tribal conflict, not a religious one. They weren't killing each other in the name of Jesus, you friggin' idiot.

I swear, they must grow morons like you in a lab somewhere.

Posted by: Eisenhund at October 26, 2006 9:13 PM

Let's be optimistic - maybe the stores that didn't have any copies were just sold out because it sold better than expected.
And ordering from Amazon doesn't encourage them to keep lots of copies on the shelf.

Posted by: Borg at October 26, 2006 9:55 PM

tgusa wrote:

I have an idea. Go into your local bookstore and if you find insurgent activity being practiced, tell the manager in no uncertain terms that you are writing your rep. and requesting that any book store that is caught trying to manipulate our thoughts and ideas should have a wrecking ball assigned to take care of the problem. Enough with these rats and their arrogance, trying to censor free speech by hiding it away in the storage room. We need to show them that we are wise to their tricks and we will not let them get away with it. If I were Pres. and I was told of any book store personnel who were found responsible for actions like these, I would give them a 6 month vacation in jihazi land. Let’s see if they don’t have a better appreciation of America if they return.
.................

Look, I have also been frustrated at times trying to find books, especially certain titles.

But you have to remember that even the large chains like Borders and Barnes and Noble are *private businesses*. They can carry any books they wish, and are not required to carry any particular title. Indeed, even the largest and best-stocked bookstore will be missing many titles. You can't threaten to destroy bookstores or throw their staff out of the country.

Most bookstores *do* respond if they get enough requests. Go down to your local bookshop and order Robert's book. While you're at it, tell the clerk a bit about ithe book and recommend that they read it themselves.

Posted by: gravenimage at October 26, 2006 11:41 PM

I have my right as an American to write my rep with my complaints/ideas. Why do you twist my words around? I don’t give a damn about any store or individual who deliberately deceive us at the peril of our children. I am very careful where I spend my money. I will not even use the bathroom at these insurgent propaganda outlets. The enemy is the enemy no matter if they are related to Washington himself. They picked their side, freely.

Posted by: tgusa at October 27, 2006 10:50 AM

Wow muslims are BAD !! I am laughing my head off. How uninformed are you? Maybe there are some video's you have not seen? Like beheadings and stonings and hands being chopped off. Or the gays being hung. Maybe the carnige just has no effect on you? Bad? What I can not understand for the life of me is how you can fill their own children with hate and send them off to their death without a care. Strap a bomb to my son? OMG I love my children and only want to fill them with love and respect for all people. How a man can not want his wife to love and respect him. How can he want her to feel inferior to him? Beat her? It's evil. I can't understand how they would want to live the way that they do. You live by the sword you will die by the sword and soon the world will awake, and we will push you back to where you came from just like before.

Posted by: Silly at October 28, 2006 8:56 AM