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Celebrations in Baghdad, protests in Tikrit over the Saddam death sentence.
"Saddam Hussein sentenced to death," from the BBC, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
When called to court, Saddam Hussein, dressed in his usual dark suit and white shirt and carrying a Koran, walked to his customary seat and sat down.Judge Rauf Abdel Rahman ordered him to stand while he read out the verdict, but the former president defiantly refused to do so and had to be moved from his seat by court attendants.
As the judge began reading the death sentence Saddam Hussein shouted out "Allahu Akbar!" (God is Great) and "Long live Iraq! Long live the Iraqi people! Down with the traitors!"
'Triumphant smile'
The former leader looked shocked and furious as the sentence was passed, and continued to shout, denouncing the court, the judge and the US-led occupation force in Iraq.
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Shortly after the verdict was announced celebratory gunfire could be heard across Baghdad.
In the Shia district of Sadr City there was jubilation on the streets, with people driving around in cars, sounding their horns. There were also jubilant scenes in the holy city of Najaf.
The Baghdad celebrations were in defiance of a 12-hour daytime curfew banning all vehicle and pedestrian traffic which was placed on the whole city of six million people amid fears of violence from Saddam Hussein's Sunni Arab supporters.
The government cancelled all army leave and the city's civilian airport was closed.
Hometown anger
Immediately after the sentencing, violence reportedly broke out in the mainly Sunni Azamiya district of Baghdad, with machine guns and mortars being fired.
Three nearby provinces, including Salahuddin, which contains Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, are also under curfew.
Thousands of people also defied the curfew in Tikrit - but there it was to voice support for Saddam Hussein and to denounce the verdict.
Sunnis in Tikrit marched through the city, chanting "We will avenge you Saddam."
Posted by Robert at November 5, 2006 8:21 AM
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it is interesting that the self-styled American champion of civil liberties, Ramsey Clark, former Attorney General of the USA, has called the trial of Saddam Hussein a travesty of justice [or some such], as reported in a previous post. Clark toadied to Saddam Hussein while he was still in power. Apparently, Clark was not deterred from his toadying by knowledge of his massive crimes, which were known long ago.
It is curious that Clark toadied to Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979 when that Shi`ite cleric rose to power in Iran. This is curious because Saddam Hussein's victims were so often Khomeini's fellow Shi`ites. How is it that clark supported and supports both khomeini and saddam hussein, who murdered so many of khomeini's fellow Shi`ites??
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at November 5, 2006 8:59 AM
local news here, residents in Dearborn are cheering about Saddam's death sentence.. these muslims from dearborn are now being told by fellow muslim terrorists to vote "Democrat", but then if the Dems were in power, Saddam would still be in power. oh fickle be they muslims.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at November 5, 2006 9:19 AM
Are they idiots or what? Saddam killed lots of muslims, and now they want to avenge this guy? Unbelievable.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 5, 2006 9:23 AM
local news here, residents in Dearborn are cheering about Saddam's death sentence.. these muslims from dearborn are now being told by fellow muslim terrorists to vote "Democrat", but then if the Dems were in power, Saddam would still be in power. oh fickle be they muslims.
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That Muslims are choosing to vote Democratic is highly ironic considering Democratics support: Abortion, homosexuality; and Hillary Clinton doesn't wear a veil.
Posted by: Monkeywho at November 5, 2006 9:46 AM
Hillary Clinton doesn't wear a veil.
Posted by: Monkeywho
She would wear one in a New York minute if it guaranteed her the muslim vote.
Posted by: Ronin at November 5, 2006 10:28 AM
It is refreshing to see the mainstream media publishing this kind of news.
But, both the mainstream media and our political masters, in the face of massive evidence, still continue to pin to the false hope that the Shi’ites and Sunnis would ever stop their “sectarian violence” and work together to build the much-vaunted Iraqi democracy.
And so much for the benevolent cultural influence of the “religion of peace”.
at November 5, 2006 10:53 AM
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at November 5, 2006 11:00 AM
I am quite certain that, despite his being 'secular,' saddam hopes to be viewed as a Martyr for islam.
Posted by: Gary at November 5, 2006 11:37 AM
"CRAWFORD, United States (AFP) - The White House has welcomed the guilty verdict against former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and said it provided proof that Iraq was on the road to building a viable democracy.
'You now have absolute proof that you've got an independent judiciary in Iraq,' White House spokesman Tony Snow told NBC television Sunday."
-- taken off-line.
Really? Is that what the verdict provides? Not merely evidence but proof or "absolute proof" of an "independent judiciary in Iraq"? Or does it prove only that now that the Sunnis lost their grip on power, a court dominated by Shi'a and Kurds, in a regime dominated by Shi'a, is capable of punishing Saddam Hussein not hastily, through summary execution, but more slowly, through a trial (and errors) that lead to a verdict, a sentence, and the carrying-out of that that sentence.
Isn't that all this particular trial proves? What would have proved, under the circumstances, that Iraq now possesses an "independent judiciary" is quite a different verdict: an acquittal, or a lenient sentence. That is what would have proved the existence of an "independent judiciary."
But let's wait. When the leader of a Shi'a militia (i.e., death squad) is put on trial, and sentenced to death, that will be the proof that Iraq under the present regime has an "independent judiciary."
Tony Snow will, like Bush and like the rest of us, just have to wait and see.
at November 5, 2006 11:54 AM
'OL So-dam-insane sure didn't sound like he is in any hurry to be a martyr for his ROP! Not in any hurry for his virgins or servant boys.
You never see any of the higher-ups in the ROP volunteering to be martyrs, only the younger mindless ones. Wonder why? (cowards)
Posted by: NC_patriot at November 5, 2006 11:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkEDIa-uMAw
Dear Mr Spencer
I am a inmmigrant to this great land, and perhaps I valued our freedoms a little more than most, to see our freddoms continually eroded by the so call war on drugs and now the war on terror is indeed catostrophic.
I made a video , borrowed some ideas and images from your previous postings, hope it's ok, if not let me know and I will gladly take down any images you feel are infringement on copyright laws.
I made this video in the hope of waking people up in an effort to deviate from the dark road ahead and the mamy trials and dark hours that await us.
Feel free to post my video on your site should you be inclined to do so.
Ray
Posted by: Cyberray at November 5, 2006 12:05 PM
Once Saddam is dead he'll be quickly forgotten except by a handful of fanatics. Islamaniacs have more pressing things to do, like getting nukes and killing infidels.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 5, 2006 12:25 PM
From article:
Sunnis in Tikrit marched through the city, chanting "We will avenge you Saddam."
Can anyone guess how these predictable monkeys will try to avenge Saddam?
I’m sure it will be done with a petition followed by a peaceful (Unarmed) march singing “We will overcome” then finally take revenge at the polls during the next election.
at November 5, 2006 1:08 PM
Are they idiots or what? Saddam killed lots of muslims, and now they want to avenge this guy? Unbelievable.
No. Believable. This is the 7th Pillar of Islam, as specified in 33:21 ...
The 7th Pillar of Islam: Moslems, both as a group and individually, must always behave as the aggrieved party, and work without pause to reap the treasure and other prerogatives being in the position of injured party yields.
at November 5, 2006 1:09 PM
Are they idiots or what? Saddam killed lots of muslims, and now they want to avenge this guy? Unbelievable.
Posted by: EliasAlucard
WE should be the ones to mourn his removal.. He also kept Iran in check. i don;t think they'd be going "noo-coo-lar" if Bush hadn't gone and upset the applecart. we are truly at the decline of our civilization when our leaders are such morons!
at November 5, 2006 1:55 PM
Dear Cyberray, where are you from? I was born and raised in the U.S. and though we're not even close to perfect,I am proud of my country and love her and would defend her in a heart beat. I see what's happening in Europe, compliments of the liberal,pc mind set who insist on giving their heritage and culture away. I see the same thing happening in the U.S. at a lesser degree thus far. As it gets worse we will A: roll over or B: grab the imam by the horns and drop kick them back to the glass factories from were they came(or worse) I tried to subrcibe at youtube but it wouldn't accept my password (tried many times) wouldn't tell me the parameters needed, numbers,letters,how many characters ect. Thanks Cyber. Looking forward to hearing from you again.
Posted by: mustang65 at November 5, 2006 1:58 PM
Oh,(main subject matter) saddam is a mental illness. Many a muslims are inflicted with saddamopsychosis. Good riddance. Hope he enjoys his 72 virgin pigs in hell.
Posted by: mustang65 at November 5, 2006 2:12 PM
Germaninamerica:
How can you possibly mourn the removal of a bloody tyrant whose murderous regime committed atrocities beyond human comprehension?
I don't mourn his defeat. I don't mourn his sentencing. And I won't mourn him when he's dead. I'm glad he's gone. One less sadistic psychopathic leader in the world is a good thing.
Posted by: atheling at November 5, 2006 2:25 PM
One thing is very clear - the Iraqis are very violent, clannish people who like to kill each other. They always have and always will. Why did our president commit our nation's blood and treasure (and reputation and geopolitical position) to an enterprise that was destined to fail (not by Islamists, but by the crazy Iraqi people)?
What a mess. Why didn't our "leaders" see the obvious???
You can talk all you want about how dumb the democrats are, how weak and passive they are, how much you hate Hillary, or how Clinton maybe kinda could have done something...but this situation is a nightmare that is only going to get worse. The only option I see for protesting the arrogance, lack of planning, bumbling, outright corruption, cronyism, lack of accountability, lying, constitution mangling, and delusional thinking of the current regime is by voting against its supporters.
Posted by: ReligionofPeas at November 5, 2006 3:09 PM
"How can you possibly mourn the removal of a bloody tyrant whose murderous regime committed atrocities beyond human comprehension?
I don't mourn his defeat. I don't mourn his sentencing. And I won't mourn him when he's dead. I'm glad he's gone. One less sadistic psychopathic leader in the world is a good thing."
Posted by: atheling
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What germaninamerica was trying to say is that Sodom Insane--who may have been a psychopath, was also useful in that he kept the Muslim world at bay from being dangerous to the west.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 5, 2006 3:33 PM
The guns being fired are probably the ones the U.S. cannot account for.
As far as the "virgins" go, I believe this word is an incorrect translation. Back when Muhammed lived, white raisins were held in awe because of their expense. He's getting 72 white raisins, not virgins.
Posted by: ubaggy1 at November 5, 2006 3:34 PM
Lest anyone forget, Saddam was dangerous to the West and to all civilization in that he was trying to build an atomic bomb [and other WMD]. Isn't that dangerous enough?
Posted by: Eliyahu at November 5, 2006 4:04 PM
Hillary Clinton doesn't wear a veil.
Posted by: Monkeywho
She would wear one in a New York minute if it guaranteed her the muslim vote.
Posted by: Ronin
She'd also wear a Hitler mustache if she could grow facial hair.. on second thought..
at November 5, 2006 4:40 PM
How can you possibly mourn the removal of a bloody tyrant whose murderous regime committed atrocities beyond human comprehension?
I don't mourn his defeat. I don't mourn his sentencing. And I won't mourn him when he's dead. I'm glad he's gone. One less sadistic psychopathic leader in the world is a good thing.
Posted by: atheling
I don't mean to say I "mourn" him ok? What I do mean is that we are beholden to remove tyrants who kill *non-moslems* for a change.. see South Sudan.
Besides.. I am thinking realpolitik here. Saddam and Iran would have kept one another in check - instead of the situation we have now with Iran boldly grasping for nuclear arms.
Eliyahu, you say he was building nuclear weapons, but so di he before and the IDF handled that quite nicely. They didn't take him out at the same time.
All of these ME tyrants are INSANE and you CANNOT force democracy on anyone. See lebanon, Algeria, the "paleastian authority", turkey and so on.. They all have to use the military to keep the islamists - who keep getting elected in by the populace - out.
In case I am still unclear about what I am saying.. please see if EliasAlucard does a little better at explaining: [Thanks Elias]
What germaninamerica was trying to say is that Sodom Insane--who may have been a psychopath, was also useful in that he kept the Muslim world at bay from being dangerous to the west.
Posted by: EliasAlucard
at November 5, 2006 4:47 PM
Just as there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no secularists on death row. Nothing makes common cause with righteous indignation better than religion. I think it's hilarious that now Saddam carries a Koran with him and yells "Allahu Akbar!". Used to be, before he became the devout Muslim he now apparently is, that Saddam just carried a shotgun and screamed for more contractors to erect palace #3,429. Please let's get this sad spectacle, all sound and fury, over with.
Posted by: Haid Dasalami at November 5, 2006 6:59 PM
It will be so sweet to see Saddam's bloated corpse swinging on a rope while his sphincter muscles relax and begin to soil his new trousers purchased for the occasion. Too bad he couldn't begin his trip to hell by being placed in the same plastic shredding machine that his sons were so fond of utilizing.
at November 5, 2006 8:48 PM
Oh come on, Saddam isn't stupid. It's not like he belives in allah. The only reason he's yelling allahu akbar is because he wants the Muslims who hate America to bomb more American soldiers.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 5, 2006 9:32 PM
Saddam is one of many. He is legion. Until the culture that nutures him and all the other tyrants, pirates and despots has been disassembled we'll continue to see suckers like him rise to power. All it takes is the Will To Power, the proper cunning ruthlessness applied correctly and justification & identification with older role models, aka the cult of personality Mohammed built around himself. Saddam is just a B team knock off... we'll see more.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at November 6, 2006 10:11 AM
"Until the culture that nutures him and all the other tyrants, pirates and despots has been disassembled...."
A_Plague_on_Both_Houses, yes,that is the core issue.
Only one antidhimmi Editor (Indian)summd it up":
" Mr Hussein is no hero... To espouse his cause - in however convoluted a manner - only to please Communist allies who want to wage rhetorical war on America is not mature diplomacy. In 1979, when Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was hanged after being convicted by a Pakistani court, there was pressure on the Government of India to protest and seek clemency. The then Prime Minister, Morarji Desai, refused to do so, arguing it was none of India's concern".
Posted by: Crows&Cows at November 7, 2006 4:13 AM
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