I suspect the anger is because Jihadwatch is all TOO effective.

It certainly opened my eyes, and I regularly recommend it to those worried about Islam and the threat it poses.

Posted by: treehugger at November 6, 2006 8:00 PM

I am honoured to be considered the lowest segment of society by this man.

Well answered, Robert.

Posted by: Lili at November 6, 2006 8:01 PM

Bobby,( ouch, I'm sure that hurt) the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society.

I am from the "lowest segment of society" sez a CAIR critter. Heh heh, thanks.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 6, 2006 8:05 PM

Oh, and how is that lawsuit against Anti-CAIR coming, Mr. Bedier? Oh, that's right, your organization BACKED DOWN rather then have the legal system rattle the skeletons in your Islamofacist closet.

Posted by: treehugger at November 6, 2006 8:05 PM

Ha!

I visit this site EVERYDAY. By the time I finished reading this post, there were 4 comments. By the time I finish writing this there will be more.

Posted by: Agrippa at November 6, 2006 8:09 PM

Opps late night drunken posting!

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at November 6, 2006 8:11 PM

Ackmed is here in Tampa? Wow and we never met. I post here often although I would never say anything hateful or hurtful about islam. Come to think of it, I did see some insults from a few regulars, naseem, shia and king tolerance come to mind but I think they meant it all in a good way. They did attempt to portray “true islam.” A few others stop by every once in a while spewing worlds of hate, something about world domination and worshiping pedophiles. To tell the truth I usually skip over their stuff cuz it hurts my feelings. I thought enough about islam I ordered trinkets to show my approval, my mohammed bobblehead arrived last week, it is real nice. If you see it in the window of my truck flag me down, we could do lunch. I eat pulled pork sandwhiches every Friday afternoon, you are welcome to join me. That’s part of the problem with this world, people don’t spend enough time getting to know each other. If Friday will not work for you, I am free Sunday, we could go to Church together, a nice southern Babtist or a Penacolstal both I am told welcome non-believers and are easier to find than Moonies. Your friend Ronin.

Posted by: Ronin at November 6, 2006 8:12 PM

I suppose we are a thorn in his side, then. Good work boys! Well done Bobby, (hehehe), give em hell!

Posted by: TheVoiceofTruth at November 6, 2006 8:12 PM

Mr. Spencer - You have opened my eyes as well, and your clearinghouse continues to provide valuable information aboud jihad and jihadists that is not easily obtainable elsewhere. I may not be able to refute the accusation that I belong to the "lowest segment of our society", but I am a police veteran (25 years), former U.S. Army (enlisted), business owner, holder of 3 advanced degrees and an adjunct faculty member at a university Mr. Bedier probably has heard of. I also firmly believe that I can kick his @ss. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: MP at November 6, 2006 8:13 PM

Robert:

Wow! It looks like I'm among the first on this thread to say I'm honored to belong to the select club of the "lowest segment" of our society that reads JW with immense intellectual and moral profit.

I'm amused to see that, despite his strained effort at being colloquial in oreder to demean you ("Spence," "Bobby") Mr. Bedier can't help writing like a bureaucratic hack: "lowest segment."

What a "segment" ideed, with brilliant though different people and voice such as....
But we all know them, don't we?

Hey, Segment Brothers and Sisters, the guy is the king of lack of self-reflection and transference. Talk about getting "desperate"!

Posted by: ovidius_naso at November 6, 2006 8:16 PM

Waaaaaaaaa! Poor whiny CAIR is all upset-again.
Time to change Bedier's diaper.

I know one thing-I'm glad I'm a "nobody" who likes this "nothing" site and enjoys reading all that "nothing" that "nobodies" put up here. Bedier probably does too, only he won't dare admit it. The truth always hurts, just like Bedier's diaper rash.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 6, 2006 8:18 PM

Bobby, the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society

I'm not sure that I am in the society he refers to; but at least in the social circles that I travel I do manager to garner a level of respectability.

I assure you "Bobby," that your message is reaching well placed individuals who CARE about your views and are enlightened by them.

Moreover, which "hate" speech does he have in mind?

By the way, who cares what Mr. Bedier thinks anyway? I don't.

Posted by: witness at November 6, 2006 8:18 PM

Bobby, the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society..

Which "our society" would that be? The "Khilaphat of America" under "One allah" with "Sharia for all"?

Posted by: Alert at November 6, 2006 8:19 PM

As a secular conservative... wake me up when the Crusades start in earnest. Coming soon to a far distant theater near you.

Richard of Morgan Hill

Posted by: rdharper at November 6, 2006 8:24 PM

CAIR is toast. Nay, a smoking little remainder of charcoal in the bottom of the stove.

Emerson fried them so badly on Fox laugh last night I was reduced to peals of laughter so profound my side ached for an hour.

Actually, for Mr. Bedier's edification (and dear Lord does he need some edification) JihadWatch is the most often accessed site when people are requesting information on radical Islam ... a crown recently obtained from Dr. Daniel Pipes, its previous owner, and close runner-up.

It's a very indication that somebody's getting under Mr. Bedier's skin that he takes after our "Bobby" the way he has.

Well, don't worry, Bobby, nobody here is fooled, and ever day, out there, fewer and fewer Muslims are fooled into thinking they have to listen to these terrorist creeps -- or put up with their claims that they represent them.

They do not. They represent HAMAS, Al Qaeda, the Paintball Jihad group, Alamoudi, Sami al-Arian, the Holy Land Foundation, Account 98, Al Taqwa, WAMY, Hizbollah, Al Aqsa and all the rest.

And Americans are getting better and better information about CAIR.

And BTW, Bedier must be having a fit that the little bow-tie guy actually forced Ibrahim Hooper to say there should be death penalty for apostasy. And old Ibrahim looked as if he'd swallowed a large camel after he had to say it.

They are crackling everywhere, shriveling, and incessantly being caught in lies, deceptions, and the defense of criminals and murderers.

Bedier, go )(*^&(*& .

Nothing but love for you, Beddy ... [If you're going to call him Bobby, we'll just call you Beddy).

Posted by: Morgaan Sinclair at November 6, 2006 8:27 PM

The people who visit here write letters, tell friends, note the relationship between muslim misdeed and traditional muslim beliefs.

Not sure who will win. Am sure who should.

Posted by: StillBreathing at November 6, 2006 8:31 PM

Ronin

Always woderful to read your posts, my friend. When I wrote my prevoius post, I did count you among the "lowest segment" that brighten up this site with fresh insights and stories and quirky--but oh, so expressive and witty--language.

It's a real pleasure to be in the same "segment" with you.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at November 6, 2006 8:31 PM

"Bobby"?

How presumptuous of him!!! What poor manners!!

Hey Bedier: It's MR Spencer to people like you!!

Posted by: Gramfan at November 6, 2006 8:32 PM

Ronin

Always wonderful to read your posts, my friend. When I wrote my previous post, I did count you among the "lowest segment" that brighten up this site with fresh insights and stories and quirky--but oh, so expressive and witty--language.

It's a real pleasure to be in the same "segment" with you.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at November 6, 2006 8:32 PM

Robert, here I am reader from Indonesia.... I visit and read JW articles everyday to start my working day. Keep up the good work Mr. Spencer...

Shallom from Indonesia... a Christian and Israel supporter

Posted by: asian crusader at November 6, 2006 8:33 PM

I also visit daily. Just picked up the new book too - and it was properly shelved at the bookstore!

I enjoy the posts about the angry feedback. These guys come up with really clever 5th grade nicknames for the contributors to the blog: "Huge" Fitzgerald and "Bobby Spence" - brilliant stuff. sheesh!

Posted by: Jan Sobieski at November 6, 2006 8:36 PM

The irony is that IF we were members of the lowest segments of society, islam would be dead already in the west. If we were the lowest segment, we would be the violent criminals, like the Mafia, the Hell's Angels, the drug lords, guys like mr bedier would be dead, his mosques burned to the ground, and his people run out of town, in fear. People like that act on their hatreds. They kill without remorse. And they have a pathological need for revenge. Just like muslims. The lowest segment of our society.

I regret that we here at jihadwatch are not part of that community. Perhaps we all need to lower ourselves. Indeed, I have urged that very thing on this forum. Others have as well. I don't believe in taking the high road. We are too good for our own good. Too non-violent, too respectful of our nation's laws.

What we really need is to start recruiting the lowest segment of society.

I have always wondered what would have happen to bin laden and his CAIR friends in America if John Gotti was still alive and heading up the Gambino crime family, and his grandkids, the pukes, were killed on 9/11. I don't have to remind you of what happened to poor John Favara who was driving the car in front of which Frank Gotti rode his dirtbike.

I can bet mr bedier would be hiding on the moon and the CAIR officials would have ended up in the Hudson river, in an auto wrecker compactor, or buried somewhere off the Jersey turnpike.

That would be your fate mr bedier if you really did run afoul of the lowest segment of American society.

Pray to allah that does not happen.

Compared to those guys, we are your friends.

Posted by: August22 at November 6, 2006 8:36 PM

Bobby, keep up the good work

I'm honored to be a part of "the lowest segment of our society"

Posted by: charles martel at November 6, 2006 8:37 PM

I felt much better when that Fox News / Opinion Dynamics poll came out that found that some 70% of Americans foresee a future world-wide conflict against Islam. They probably got their information from CAIR.

Keep up the good work Dr. Bobby.

Posted by: limes at November 6, 2006 8:39 PM

He was probably drunk when he wrote what he did.

Posted by: Ernie Banks at November 6, 2006 8:42 PM

In the battle of ideas Robert is a semester ahead of the best of us, and whole university course ahead of the Cairbots.

Posted by: Brett_McS at November 6, 2006 8:44 PM

The greatest fear of the Jihadis has to be the rousing of the West. Their whole game plan is based on our complacence and our fat-headed belief that "it can't happen here."

It is said that "All those that doeth evil hateth the light." If you've got CAIR reaching for its sunglasses, you're doing good work.

Posted by: USBeast at November 6, 2006 8:47 PM

I would agree with the explanation of possible drunkenness but knowing CAIR it really wouldn’t be necessary.... and I thought they didn't even allow alcohol in their taxis?

Posted by: charles martel at November 6, 2006 8:49 PM

Wow first Al Queda's cheif flunky white boy offers to convert you to islam and now CAIRY wants to demean you ?

I guess the offer to convert is now closed ?

But I think you can still offer to those in Islam the chance to leave their religeon and its hatrid behind.

Posted by: Bill A at November 6, 2006 8:52 PM

"What we really need is to start recruiting the lowest segment of society. "

Violence from our side is exactly what we DON'T need. That would be sinking to the islamist level and would lose the support of the majority.

For a start, we need good, properly enforced, laws limiting immigration to people who support western rights and freedoms, ensuring freedom of expression, and deporting/imprisoning people who use violent threats to shut others up.

And we need more and more well-informed people out there. Good to know how well-visited this site, and Little Green Footballs, actually are.

Posted by: Lili at November 6, 2006 8:53 PM

I didn't realize that RS had covered this story yesterday.

In checking out various relevant links last night, I noted the following typical BS statement by Ms. Jordan of Republican Party of Florida in response to Mrs. Hogan's letter:

""Yes, our nation is at war with a group of individuals who twisted the Islamic faith for their own horrific purposes," Jordan said in a written statement.""

Those who say that never cite which aspects of Islamic teachings have been so twisted.

So, I sent her a polite letter asking, among other things, 'Who knows more about Islam. You or Usama bin Laden?'

Mr. and Mrs. Hogan may have been unwise in their choice of words, but Ms. Jordan is simply clueless.

That's a serious problem.

Posted by: PRCS at November 6, 2006 8:56 PM

I would like to say that I too will never read this blog, everyday, around 4pm when I get home from work, right after I don't read Little Green Footballs. Glen and I at Total Kaos on wideawakesradio.com are ever politically correct. That's why I think if we breed Islamofascists with the French, we'll create terrorists too lazy to terrorize anyone....if I offended anyone, sorry...not really...

Posted by: Total Kaos Dave at November 6, 2006 8:58 PM

Dear Mr. Spencer,

people like this CAIR schill make me sick. Why dosen't he come out and condemn the sick and brutal acts of violence that are carried out by members of the religion of peace everyday? Maybe this guy should move back to Saudi Arabia or Crapistan. Why are they so silent on the beheading deaths like that little girl in malasia who had her head cut off her shoulders? Like friggin hell noone reads or cares what is posted on this site. I am not a bigot for opening my eyes and seeing the truth about islam. Why is it that it is only muslim men that commit these attrocites, beat their wives, gang rape women, call us infidels, blow up our buildings/aircraft, break into NFL stadiums with explosive residue in their SUV, issue death threats, spew anti-US/ anti-israel all day?

I will consider CAIR to be nothing more than a front group for islamofacism utill i hear those Ass-oles condemn the actions of their fellow brothers in the worl'd most intolerant religion.

god bless you Mr.Spencer, you are a true patriot and are willing to risk your own saftey to get these facts out here in brainwashed/lefty media world. It will take sites like this to kick those dirty bums in CAIR out of this country and send them back to their Saudi masters.

mikey sinclair

Posted by: infidel13 at November 6, 2006 8:59 PM

It's a real pleasure to be in the same "segment" with you.
Posted by: ovidius_naso

I feel honored to be in such great company. I do reserve the right to attempt to get even lower if it bothers ackmed bedwetter that much. My pop told me once “boy you ain’t better than no one but you ain’t beneath them ether”. Pop was a poet and I don’t think he would approve of someone claiming his little boy was the lowest segment of our society. I think he confused me with some of my kin. At least I am in good company. I’m going to grab a beer and see if I can work through just why that man hates us so much, I mean didn’t we supply him with a job, an education and turn our backs while he abused his women or allowed others of his religion to do so? Jeeez you can’t please some people.

Posted by: Ronin at November 6, 2006 8:59 PM

Yo Bobby! You rock!!!

It's pretty obvious that Beddy's gotten his panties in a wad because you ARE so effective. Otherwise, why would he bother to contact you?

Like I've said before, patient, continuous, relentless application of the facts. These guys can't stand it and they can't deal with truth because it uncovers their real agenda. Think about it...they HAVE to go beserk as we continuously pull back the covers, overturn rocks, shine the light, and expose, expose, expose them for what they are.

I'm also happy to be in such an illustrious group of bottom dwellers and bottom feeders! Even though we don't always agree, the thoughtful & articulate posts, clever retorts, wicked humor and merciful compassion for those here who've been through a lot prove that Beddy is indulging in wishful thinking, has been sucking on sour grapes a long time and probably wishes that he hadn't worked so hard to turn his "peoples" into such a bunch of brainwashed, brain-dead, hate spewing, murdering, gang-raping automatons because now he's got no one to talk to.

I think he longs to be able to converse with you, Robert, but his ideology and pride won't let him.

Come on Beddy, come towards the light.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 6, 2006 9:02 PM

Ms. Jordan of Republican Party of Florida

And that is a Republican. Which makes my point. When even the conservatives are dhimmis, what hope does America have?

Lili, we have no support in the general public. And that support is not what we need in any case. Like I said, Robert could sell 10 million copies of his books, and nothing would change in our laws.

We need the power. The power comes from the government, and no government will ever listen to, or act on our message. The next best thing would be to fight evil with evil. We can not take the high road. The high road is what the west has taken for 50 years, and look what the result has been. Disaster.

Posted by: August22 at November 6, 2006 9:02 PM

WE WILL NOT BOW DOWN TO THREATS, INTIMIDATION, CAIR, or ALLAH. Get the f--k out of my country CAIR and all those people who want to do our country harm. We are not blind, we are not stupid, we know what goes on in the backrooms of mosques. We know that the mosque system is like having forts in enemy territory. Stop hiding behind your selfish, deranged, 7th century religion and show us who you really are CAIR.

Posted by: infidel13 at November 6, 2006 9:04 PM

I, too, am proud to be considered of the lowest segment of society, if that means situating myself amongst those who read and post here, those who C-A-R-E about what is happening in the world and who are willing to recognize the root cause of so many troubling world events (hint: g-l-o-b-a-l j-i-h-a-d)

On to more important issues...as regards tomorrow's election, here is a nice breakdown by Caroline Glick of Gabriel Schoenfeld's article "Dual Loyalty and the `Israel Lobby'" from the new issue of "Commentary" magazine:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378339651&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

For those of you voting in congressional elections, please take heed!

Posted by: Dum Dhimmi Dum Dum Dum at November 6, 2006 9:07 PM

We need the power. The power comes from the government, and no government will ever listen to, or act on our message. The next best thing would be to fight evil with evil. We can not take the high road. The high road is what the west has taken for 50 years, and look what the result has been. Disaster.
Posted by: August22

I think many of our young up and coming military leadership know the deal and will step up. Some have completed time in the box and soon become leaders in politics. Try and argue PC dhimmi crap with them cair.

Posted by: Ronin at November 6, 2006 9:07 PM

Well said, Bobby Spence!

One day CAIR and their friends will be defeated and we will be celebrating.

Posted by: XY at November 6, 2006 9:17 PM

Robert:
Someone needs to tell Mr.Bedier that your articles are seen by thousands, possibly millions of people daily.
I have a large email list and on several groups online. Also in a major mic and text chat room and thousands know your name, your books and all your articles.
You are well known and so is CAIR!
Intelligence groups are writing about CAIR! Writers, Journalists are writing about CAIR and its not complimentary articles! They are exposing CAIR for what they are!
CAIR is known from America to Uk, all around the world. To Australia, CAnada and beyond. I even have email friends who receive your articles in South America!
Mr. Bedier must know by now that the American People as well as Canadians, Australians and the UK Infidels all know their modus operandi!
CAIR is well known worldwide, not just in Canada and America for its love of supporting terrorism, its modus operandi of changing America to Islam!.
The word has been out for some time! There are hundreds of articles daily about the evil of CAIR
circulating the web!
He is angry and nervous because no one, not even the White House wants them around any longer.
They are finished! Its only a matter of time that CAIR will be closed down by the Treasury and the State Dept! We will all celebrate that date!
Twice CAIR refused to be on Foxnews! Whats a matter Bedier the heat is getting to hot for you?

Posted by: terise at November 6, 2006 9:21 PM

Count me in as one of the members of the lowest segments of society. I've been researching the history of Islam for several years and both of your books, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam, and The Truth about Muhammad are excellent guides to Islam. No wonder CAIR wants to shut you up.

Posted by: sandeman at November 6, 2006 9:22 PM

Mr. Bedier: Your frothing fury is sad and pathetic. You are apparently incapable of rational discourse, and your hit-and-run attack (refusing to "stick around" and answer Mr. Spencer's simple and sober questions) are typical of the overheated blather that spews forth from CAIR.

I'll take you seriously when you actually answer a few of Mr. Spencer's questions. In the meantime, you are nothing more than an infantile whiner.

Posted by: TempeB at November 6, 2006 9:26 PM

Richard of Morgan Hill,

You might appreciate:

http://amillennialist.blogspot.com/2006/10/little-historical-irony.html

and

http://amillennialist.blogspot.com/2006/10/variant-on-decidedly-tragic-historical.html

Regards,

Amillennialist

Posted by: Amillennialist at November 6, 2006 9:27 PM

Mr. Spencer,
God Bless you for your energy and honesty to truth. I am a 40 year old male who has just returned to college (online) after 20 years to work on a counseling degree and one of the required courses is humanities which our first timeline of study happens to be 500 to 1500.
Needless to say the history of Islam is covered and let me tell you, in this class and text at least, it is viewed with rose colored glasses.
Furtunately I found you book online and orded it so I may have more than one opinion and discovered you website in the process and all I can say is those who seek the truth shall find it!!!
Keep up the good work,
Chris P.

Posted by: CDP4JC at November 6, 2006 9:28 PM

I am proud to be considered of the lowest segment of society by such as this cair person, simply by being one of the 30+ thousand per day coming by to read the true words of Mr. Spencer and the thoughtful comments left in threads like this one. I tell ten friends...

Posted by: Gislison at November 6, 2006 9:28 PM

Don't listen to the CAIR people. It really is OK to despise those who would destroy our country and our way of life. CAIR and American Muslims are not victims, rather they are a menace for not speaking out against jihad.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth." - CAIR Chairman Omar M. Ahmad, July 1998

Thank you Robert for making everyone who visits JW more Islamocognizant.

Posted by: Kreuzueber Halbmond at November 6, 2006 9:28 PM

Hey ANDY (short for Ahmed, more or less)--
Know what? I had never even *heard* of Jihad Watch until you wrote your moronic letter to Robert Spencer and it showed up on Little Green Footballs. Thanks to you, I am now a FAN of Jihad Watch and will check back here often. You pathetic dumbass...

Posted by: Mezzetino at November 6, 2006 9:29 PM

Muslims always speak opposite of what they mean, so I will take Beddy's comments to Bobby as rather sloppy attempt at a seduction. Beddy, is trying to stay in the closet but it isn't working. The statement about "the lowest segment of society", in fact all of the accusations were self-projections. You see, Beddy knows he is from the lowest segment of society. He can't tolerate Bobby's towering status in the intellectual community so he has to attack Bobby, devalue him so he, Beddy can feel better. Beddy, Bobby and his faithful readers understand this about you. It's ok. Just try not to be so transparent and be thankful Bobby doesn't intellectually battle with unarmed opponents.

Praise be to Bobby
Bobbyhu akbar!
Bobby Rasul!

Posted by: sugarq at November 6, 2006 9:29 PM

I think the problem for CAIR and other RoP apologists is finally word is getting out about what islam really is. They are beginning to see that simply calling someone a racist or a bigot is invalid if not supported by facts. The truth about this violent, implacable 'religion' is finally getting out. And he should not think for one minute that people aren't reading jihadwatch.org and other sites in addition to other books and print media. Sorry CAIR, the proverbial cat is out of the bag.

Posted by: riversxing at November 6, 2006 9:30 PM

I have often thought about starting my own blog, because this one has enough sense to censor my more elegantly spoken comments. In the end I remember what brought me here was because they do censor comments that are inappropriate. cair only has one issue with JW/DW “the truth hurts”. Islam spread faster than the warnings of islams approach, those days are over. Global reach, baby, thank God! Al Gore invented the net (sorry I was on a roll and got carried away).

Posted by: Ronin at November 6, 2006 9:30 PM

Did it ever occur to Mr. Bedier to think that the people who read Jihad Watch are some of the most well-educated, well-informed people around? Who else would care to inform themselves about a foreign religion and culture? People who aren't interested in reading, thinking or learning do not come to Jihad Watch. For example, do you know how much effort it takes the average infidel to read the Qur'an? Despite what Muslim apologists say, the Qur'an is one of the most poorly written, incoherent pieces of literature that I have ever read. Consequently, for an infidel to actually read the Qur'an is a major effort of will. Therefore, only the most curious, motivated individuals manage to study Islam. Most infidels are completely uninterested in any religion except their own. Unfortunately for Mr. Bedier, it is the infidel intelligentsia who are reading Jihad Watch.

Mr. Bedier's ignorant and barbaric comments mirror the world of his co-religionists. As the 2002 Arab Human Development Report stated,the entire Arab world translates 330 books annually which is one-fifth the number that Greece alone translates. With regard to scientific enquiry, things are even worse:

http://www.meforum.org/article/513

"Science and technology output is quantifiable and measurable in terms of the number of scientific papers per unit of population. The average output of the Arab world per million inhabitants is roughly 2 per cent of that of an industrialized country. While Arab scientific output more than doubled from 11 papers per million in 1985 to 26 papers per million in 1995, China's output increased eleven-fold from one paper per million inhabitants in 1981 to 11 papers per million in 1995. The Republic of Korea increased its output from 6 to 144 papers per million inhabitants over the same period. India's output, by contrast, barely changed over the period 1981-1995: its output increased from 17 publications per million inhabitants in 1981 to 19 per million in 1995."

In short, because Islam discourages thinking and intellectual enquiry, Muslims are some of the most ignorant and illiterate people on the planet.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Mr. Bedier!

Posted by: Mentat at November 6, 2006 9:31 PM

I left the following at Bedier's site:

I see that Ms. Bedier has taken time from his busy schedule of apologizing for terrorists and promoting islamic supremacy to post a threatening and dishonest message to one of america's finest citizens, Bobby Spencer of Jihad Watch( www.jihadwatch.org ). Bobby's lifetime of study has left him with an intimate knowledge of islamic scriptures, culture, history and people. Ms. Bedier's knowledge cannot possibly compare, or he would openly and freely debate Mr. Spencer in a neutral forum, or at least answer a few reasonable questions posed by Bobby. This Ms. Bedier has failed to do.

Mr. Spencer's two best-selling books, his website and the invaluable insight into Islam he has shared with the world has earned him the appreciation and respect of millions of free people concerned with the extreme hatred and aggressiveness of radical Islam. Just as importantly, he has earned the trust of millions like me, as he is willing to engage you or any other islamist in debate. You, Ms. Bedier, seem to be limited thus far to leaving nasty, late-night posts on his website.

Congratulations, you appear to have all the courage of the Hamas "warriors" who call for their women and children to come and provide cover for them to escape the battles they themselves have instigated. Your parents must be very proud of you.

Sincerely,

Posted by: eagles5 at November 6, 2006 9:33 PM

fanblo**dytastic...

This is the kind of entertainment that stops this whole depressing jihad thing depressing me.

I like his link to the lovely dhimmi letter from Joanne Schoch (executive director of the Humane Society of the Nature Coast is my thinking) that was published.

It has the usual bad parallels (Irish terrorism) and the taking of the criticism of a faith as saying all its adherents should be hated....

Oh and I nearly forgot the usual hypocrisy of such people of making it personal: "I accuse them of being hateful and hateful is wrong but I hate them” (implying she is the sort of stupid person that can’t hate a philosophy without hating those who believe it and assumes we are all from her low segment of society)

But the best bit is her actions do not match her words:

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/10/31/Citrus/Spring_Hill_residents.shtml

She doesn't let ANYONE adopt her animal shelter's cats in the run up to holloween incase they get killed.

She can't distinguish the difference between a good American and a bad American so no one gets to adopt a cat - especially a black cat - before halloween "for fear of them being killed"!

She lets her fear of a minority of cat killers stop everyone getting cats.

Yet she has no fear of the minority of moslem terrorists.

If her job is to adopt out cats and she can't tell who will be a good owner, how does she know there are good moslems in Hernando????????

How????

Posted by: exposesithlords at November 6, 2006 9:33 PM

Ahmed Bedier has convinced me. I will now stop reading Jihad Watch and convert to Islam.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at November 6, 2006 9:34 PM

Oh come on now Ahmed! You know even Osama & Co. has called out Bobby. I mean you can't get more famous than that. If Bobby was such loser and no one cared then why does Osama care. In fact you seem to care about Bobby too. I mean if all of us are losers then why debase yourself with us. Maybe deep down you really want to debate Bobby but you are scared. Come on now Ahmed your a muslim dam it. Debate Bobby! Come on he is just a non-muslim and lacks the wisdom I am sure you could bring to the issue. If you don't Ahmed how could you be a TRUE muslim if you are so scared of Bobby the Christian. Shame Ahmed! Big Mo will not be pleased!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at November 6, 2006 9:35 PM

lol @ Ahmed Bedier for getting PWN3D by Robert Spencer. By the way, Jihad Watch RULES! :) I have yet to find a more politically incorrect site. And I love political incorrectness--because to me, it's about honesty.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 6, 2006 9:35 PM

Ahmed you are acting like a woman.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at November 6, 2006 9:37 PM

I think Mr. Bedier is afraid he's on the losing team.

He and his co-horts can't scurry around when people have their eyes open and are aware of what's going on. And, we ARE aware.

Go bang your head on the ground.

Posted by: freewoman at November 6, 2006 9:38 PM

How come "Bobby" gets all the fatwas, and I don't get anything?

It's dispiriting, I tell ya. Dispiriting. And I've tried so hard for years and years. Maybe CAIR should drop by my site and see what kind of response they get.

Then again, perhaps they already have.

Posted by: Banagor at November 6, 2006 9:38 PM

cut ackmed some slack he was up late crying into his beer because his beloved saddam is doomed. The beer went to his head and he came here to post, we have all done it (it might just be me but some of you make me wonder)anyway, he is sorry and will shortly say so in person (don't hold your breath).

Posted by: Ronin at November 6, 2006 9:41 PM

Oh and I forgot, if Ahmed Bedier thinks the readers of Jihad Watch are the "lowest segment of our society" then perhaps he should consider this:

“It is honourable to be accused by those who deserve to be accused.”

Latin Proverb

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 6, 2006 9:41 PM

I believe this statement was from a founding CAIR member.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." (stated at Islamic conference held in Freemont, California, July of 1998)

Ahmed Bedier simply wants to fulfill that dream. Ahmed Bedier seems to be making the rounds of many blogs insulting anyone that opposess that dream. He never tries to discredit what the blogger is saying but only insults the person not the content ... that all he's got!

Posted by: Jack at November 6, 2006 9:42 PM

Robert,

I think you're being a little over sensitive to this cheap con-man's words of desperation in his attempt to demean you. You're a best selling author and he's a nobody with friends like Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah, etc. My day wouldn't be complete without my numerous daily visits to Jihad Watch to find out what's happening in regards to the spread of Islamic terrorism. Your site is growing by leaps and bounds and when Judgment Day comes, I'm certain God will look upon you favorably in your efforts to awaken the world to this cult of death. Jihad Watch is my little place of sanctuary of like minded thinkers. I think very highly of you and most of the bright commenters here.

God Bless!

Warm regards,
Bonnie

Posted by: Bonniea at November 6, 2006 9:43 PM

I wonder how many hits the CAIR site gets?

completely off topic - but funny:

This was not reported by any newsagency, my wife spoke to somebody who there.

A famous Brazilian singer did a concert in Shillong, India, a few days ago. It went down OK but then he started shouting anti-US comments at the end, which he probably did in South America all the time - but Shillong aint South America.
The crowd thought he was some kind of Muslim, so they started booing and throwing bottles. He had to be rescued from the stage and leave town at once.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5036766.stm

Posted by: Timbo at November 6, 2006 9:44 PM

I just went to the CAIR homepage. The word "Jihad" was not to found. There's no 500 pound gorilla in their living room.

What's that smell?

Posted by: USBeast at November 6, 2006 9:44 PM

Will somone please burp baby Bedier already?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 6, 2006 9:47 PM

Ahmed! Debate Bobby or put on your Burka!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at November 6, 2006 9:49 PM

I just went to the CAIR homepage. The word "Jihad" was not to be found. There's no 500 pound gorilla in their living room.

What's that smell?

Posted by: USBeast at November 6, 2006 9:52 PM

Mr. Spencer:

Just wanted you to know I read this site every day. Have learned a lot and think you are doing great work. Telling the truth in this world isn't easy anymore.

Thank you...

suz

Posted by: Suz at November 6, 2006 9:55 PM

Mr. Bedier:

Since you obviously read JihadWatch like tens of thousands of other people I will address you directly.

I don't like the comment "Lowest Segment." It smacks of an elitism that is un-American.

However, so you know, I have two degrees (one of them Ivy) and more importantly I had a very positive-neutral concept of Islam before adherents of your religion flew airplanes into two buildings in my home city, claiming to do so in the name of your religion.

Then I went on a quest of my own to find out more about Islamand like Mr. Spencer, I read from Islamic sources.

I came to the conclusion that the Sharia is exatly what our founders were fighting against, a tyranny, a dampening of thspark of enlighenmet.

You are welome to ignore me, to banish me to the corner of your mind. Or, understand that there are a gowing number of us who both hate bigotry and see your creed not Spencer or his, as such.

Posted by: tokyobk at November 6, 2006 9:56 PM

I find calling someone by a familiarized variation of their formal name without agreement insulting and pretentious and condescending.

It is the wrong way to start off a discussion. Apparently he just wanted to insult and run. Just as well. It only proves the points made here and many other sites how Muslims, when confronted with historic facts, tend to belittle the pesky infidel.

Posted by: John Sobieski at November 6, 2006 9:57 PM

I just want Ahmed Bedier to know that I AM A GENIUS, MY IQ MEASURES SOMEHWERE AROUND 5450, AND I LOVE JIHAD WATCH.

lol

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 6, 2006 9:59 PM

You are right. That little fellow from CAIR has no idea who we are that make up your readership. I would not fit any stereotypical profile that I feel he has in mind.

Posted by: norman at November 6, 2006 9:59 PM

The number of regular visitors to JW -- which one might define as someone who comes to read daily, as some do, or some prefer to scoop up whatever there is every other day, or twice a week -- in which case that figure of 30,000 plus readers could be, say, 100,000 a week -- that is, larger or equal to the subscriptions of, say, The New Republic or National Review -- is only a very small part of the story.

Many articles and news items that are put up here come to the attention of others who then send them out, sometimes to a large list of recipients. Many of the articles are put up at other websites. Some are translated, with or without the knowledge of the writers, and later one finds that they have appeared on Spanish, German, French, Russian, Spanish, Portuguese, or even Indonesian websites.

Take an article or two from the list in the bar above. Google and then see how many times that article has appeared at other websites. You have no way of knowing how many people have been sent such an article by email, or have had it printed out for them. But there is reason to believe that the influence of the site -- is much greater than the figure of 30,000 plus visitors -- which tells us nothing about the frequency of the subseuqnet dissemination of material -- would have some believe.

It would be unwise to go into all of the evidence for this assertion; your own googling, your own anecdotal evidence, may or may not confirm this obsrevation. And there is no need to give others, not necessarily well-disposed, any more information on this score.

Posted by: Hugh at November 6, 2006 10:01 PM

Robert,

I'm honored to be a part of "the lowest segment of our society"

You are punching their buttons. I heard you on my local station last Wednesday or Thursday. I have you on the pod cast from the station. I think it is another way to get the word out like HOT AIR.

Ahmed is like a lot of Arab weasels. They would rather do a "drive by" because he's too chicken to do it any other way. What the heck, my dog would snatch him just like any of the Possums he brings in.

I've worked hard all of my life. I think that this is a great country. I've served in the Air Force as a sergeant. (It was kind of like the Military) I have attained couple of degrees, and can throw in a MBA on top of them. I have retired once and am now doing a second career. I'm in good enough shape to kick Ahmed's A$$ any day!

I'm so proud to be part of the "lowest segment of our society"

The Ahmed's of this world represent scum. They are breathing because we let them. It won't be very long before we will be cutting off the oxygen to them.

You are doing the right thing. Oppose these people with the truth. It is the best weapon of all. Americans recognize it. Political correctness is about lying. It's not correct and everyone knows it.

Posted by: credit man at November 6, 2006 10:02 PM

Actually, Beddy's biggest fear is that we are a group of intellectuals that can think and thereby formulate and perfect a plan to defeat Islamic dominance in our world. Then he'll have to either convert to sanity and get himself one wife, 2.1 kids, the family dog and a house with a picket fence and a thirty year mortgage, OR, he'll have to go back to living in the desert with the camels.

Oh dear, WWMD? (What would Mohammad do?)

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 6, 2006 10:06 PM

Ahmed this is not impressing me. How the hell am I am going to be a good Dhimmi if you can't debate Bobby? I expected a strong muslim to show Bobby his place and instead I read this...

"Maybe you should consider taking your hate-fest workshops on the road and train bigots how to restrain their hatred so not to expose themselves."

Man the left wing is really rubbing off on you. Maybe the left will just suck all the manhood out muslim men just as they have done to western men and as it appears to have happened to Ahmed. Maybe we in the west are going to win this thing after all. What happened to Islamic pride and all that?

Robert when are these hate-fest workshops held? Will you train us bigots how to jump between flaming hoops like Osama and his boys do in his videos?

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at November 6, 2006 10:07 PM

asian crusader

Thanks from a member of the "segment" that unites us all.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at November 6, 2006 10:10 PM

Total Kaos Dave,

Breeding Islamofascists with the French might be a good idea, indeed. Then the French can teach those poor excuses for men how to, and what it means to, make love to a woman.

The definition of foreplay in Islam: Aisha, brace yourself!

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 6, 2006 10:13 PM

Ahmed says..

"restrain their hatred so not to expose themselves"

Maybe he should talk to the Mutfi al-Hilali! Muslim men seem to have a real problem with this down under. Meow!

Oh the irony!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at November 6, 2006 10:15 PM

R.S.

Suggest Ron Silver play you in the movie.

;]

Posted by: maurice at November 6, 2006 10:16 PM

And just where does Ahmed Bedier get the idea that he is a member of "our society".

Just using up space and air does not qualify. If he places any law above the Constitution of the United States he is an unwelcome guest.

Posted by: USBeast at November 6, 2006 10:16 PM

Hey "Bobbie"- don't let small minds like his get to ya- fact is, your site IS making a difference and he's scared- plain and simple. He's attempting to use intimidation techniques by belittling you- People do that when they're in the wrong and don't have a valid argument to present- Just look at the how the dems have responded to valid arguments with the Republicans this year (heck, any year for that) All it amounts to basically are the dems saying "You're a big poopie face" Gradeschool bickering.

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Posted by: CottShop at November 6, 2006 10:16 PM

Here is an interesting frontpagemag.com article about another upstanding member of CAIR:

http://tinyurl.com/y9ze24

"Kicking a CAIR Extremist Off the Human Relations Commission"

Posted by: Josephine at November 6, 2006 10:18 PM

Ahmed Bedier you are not worth the price of my dog's food! take your cult of death back to cesspoolstan.
you cannot debate Mr.Spencer on any issues concerning your cult of death "islam" and so you attack the readership of this website. for your information many of us are proffesionals, have college, univ. degrees, all are hard working people busy raising their families. after nine eleven many started to question islam and many like myself have learned from people like Mr.Spencer. We are seekers of truth, and do not trust govenments to keep us safe, and will take this battle right to you. so be careful, do no tread on us with impunity.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at November 6, 2006 10:23 PM

That's telling him Bobby...er....I mean Spence.

Posted by: Cornelius at November 6, 2006 10:26 PM

Oh, yooooo hoooo!
http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 6, 2006 10:28 PM

Ahmed Bedier said:

"...the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society."

Ahhhh...THAT would make us "apes and pigs," that are often spoken of by Islamists to talk down upon anyone who dares speak in anything other than glowing praise of it and its "prophet." Or can you get LOWER than "apes and pigs?"

The lowest of the low..."subhumans," "worms," "monkeys," whatever you wish to call us, it does more to describe the sort of person who says such words to dehumanize and disrespect than it does when such words are spoken in reference to others. Only evil resorts to this method of responding to the truth.

Yes, I know that he didn't actually call us "apes and pigs," but what else are we if we're "the lowest?"

Posted by: yohannbiimu at November 6, 2006 10:29 PM

I always enjoy visiting your site and learning about the ROP and what CAIR and their minions are up to. You do a great job of shining light into the dark corners if Islam. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: InfidelInTheRockies at November 6, 2006 10:31 PM

Mr. Spencer,
I just received my copy of 'The Truth about Muhammad' from Amazon.com.
I'm looking forward to reading it!

Mr. Bedier,
I'm not sorry to say more and more people are waking up to the truth of ISLAM and it's followers.
If that makes me a bigot, so be it..since it's ok for Muslims to be bigots, you people are against everyone and everything! Talk about pot calling kettle black.

Posted by: Missourimama at November 6, 2006 10:32 PM

Scene: some undisclosed public travel hub near Tampa, Florida

Ahmed Bedier, ED of Tampa's CAIR
Excuse me, friend. Would you
like a free autographed copy of the Koran and to possibly
learn more about the Inner Peace of Islam?

NON-JIHAD WATCHER
Oh, no, thank you, I'm fine.

Ahmed Bedier, ED of Tampa's CAIR
Okay, no problem. Have a good day!

NON-JIHAD WATCHER
Um, thanks. You, too! ... Oh, geez.
I feel like such an a$$ now. This guy was
just trying to be nice, and I'm all, "No, I
don't want to." Maybe I am too stressed
out. Maybe there is something to this
Islamology business.

Observant Ronin Jihad Watcher to Non-Jihad Watcher
Wow N-JW, we never met....part of the problem with this world, people don’t spend enough time getting to know each other. Let's do lunch. I eat pulled pork sandwhiches every Friday afternoon, you are welcome to join me. I'll pick you up in my truck - my mohammed bobblehead arrived last week, it is real nice and we'll talk about world domination and worshiping pedophiles. To tell the truth I usually -- -- ---

[Brother Ronin can you help me out here? I tend to be obscure at times]

Posted by: Malinois at November 6, 2006 10:39 PM

I'm-A-Bedwetter doesn't know what he's talking about, and it's men like him who are the real danger to our society.

Keep telling the Truth Robert!

Posted by: champ at November 6, 2006 10:42 PM

Hundreds of people reside in North American compounds, such as in Islamberg, New York. They are also in Maryland, Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Colorado, California, Washington, and Oklahoma. Locals watch as heavy freight is delivered into the armed encampments. Adversaries purify Islam through violence. Militants go through paramilitary training, with automatic weapons, firing ranges, and obstacle courses. They learn survival tactics and shooting techniques. The beltway sniper and shoe bomber, may have attended.

Paintball outings are routine in many states, such as Florida, Arizona, Tennessee, New Mexico, and Ohio, and also in Ontario, Canada. MSA, CAIR, and Wahhabi centers tutor students in combat techniques, with paintball, i.e., Paintball Times.

Jihad threats are not only nuclear and biological, but also include bombs in dead bodies. Planes can be used as missiles. Airport workers can provide secrets to jihadis. Caskets and human remains are not subject to airline x-ray screening. Countries of origin determine security, and there is a constant flow of caskets coming into North America.

Sources:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/
Profiling the dead
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24174
The Terrorist Next Door
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24169
Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48868
Las Vegas, Nevada, November 10th & 11th, 2006, Symposium: Understanding the Threat of Radical Islamist Terrorism

Posted by: SFOD at November 6, 2006 10:43 PM

Mr. Spencer, you seem to have struck a nerve with Ahmed Bedier.

Thank you for JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch. These sites are raising the conscience level of the intelligent world, and the spleen of the rest.

Posted by: Shakey_Premise at November 6, 2006 10:44 PM

Ahmed,
Your comment was textbook psychological projection:

Psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes ("projects") to others, one's own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts.

Who is more of a bigot than a pious Muslim who is obligated to not associate with anyone outside of his religion?
Who needs to restrain their hatred more than the group who routinely chants "Death to America", "Death to Israel" and who willingly will kill themselves as long as they can take other innocents with them?
Who, other than those who subjugate their women, marry-off their daughters before puberty, stone adulterers to death, amputate hands of petty thieves, have rampant poverty, unemployment and illiteracy in their homelands, and proudly murder in the name of their warlord, are the lowest segment of our society?
And who needs to restrain yourself more than a group who preaches an uncovered woman is an invitation to rape?

I sincerely hope you find a qualified psychologist to help you overcome your affliction.

Posted by: Xero G at November 6, 2006 10:47 PM

I have been reading this website for a few months now. I first heard you on the Michael Medved program. Now, I check in first thing in the morning.. pop in during the day when I am near my laptop (which is often)...I visit when I go potty at 3 in the morning! I forward the link to friends who in turn pass it on to others...... the word is spreading!!

I can't thank you enough, Mr. Spencer, for all you do! The truth is refreshing!!

Posted by: rejjie at November 6, 2006 10:47 PM

One more thing I want to mention- Mr. Ahmed's actions here are akin to the sophmoric actions of the pampered kids that tried to intimidate Walid Shoebat, Hilmar von Campe, and Zakaria Anani when they spoke at Columbia university- These cowards evidently support the crucifiction of defenseless 14 Yr. old boys in Iraq by the big tough Islamic terrorists. You know that you're making a difference when you get people that support terrorism showing up on your site to try to intimidate you-

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Posted by: CottShop at November 6, 2006 10:49 PM

Brother Ronin can you help me out here? I tend to be obscure at times]

Posted by: Malinois

Not obscure the word is slow. If you are going to quote me do so correctly. If you really need an explanation of what I wrote, ask one of the lowest segments of our society, they clearly understood my post. Btw, since my mother did not kill herself you are definitely not my brother. Whatever line you hail from it did not mix with mine, good day to you sir.

Posted by: Ronin at November 6, 2006 10:49 PM

Bobby, the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society.

__________________

I can assure you that I am not the lowest segment of our society. I have several college degrees, and I'm a productive; self-supporting member of society.

I am currently studying Islam in a book written by a Muslim, not Robert Spencer. After finishing this book I will read the Koran; again not translated or commented on by Robert Spencer.

Despite this, I do read and post to this website. I have to admit; however, that I do not believe that FACTS qualify as hate-speech.

It's really too bad that CAIR will not engage in an honest dialogue.

Posted by: Monkeywho at November 6, 2006 10:50 PM

I stopped caring what hateful people like this spew a very long time ago. Give me someone, like Robert, who presents his views with intelligence and I think it is deserving of consideration. Robert's books are popular with my family and friends and we have even, believe it or not passed a book or two around at work.

I am sure there are anger workshops available for this sort of dysfunctional type. Maybe even Ralph Peters could suggest one.

Posted by: amana39 at November 6, 2006 10:52 PM

One more note to Mr. Bedier and CAIR:

I have been busy and had not have a chance to buy my copies (for presents) of Robert Spencers new book. But, you have reminded me today of the importance of my good and basically liberal friends to have more information on Islam taken from Islamic sources that have been used by Muslims to articulate their belief system for the past 1 and near a half millenia. Thank you for that reminder. I will now go to Amazon.com.

I want you to know sincerely that the idea 6 years ago that the idea that I would want to actively spread the word about the bad points of another person's ideology would have left me incredulous. But that is life in aworld without a moderate Islam.

I am sorry that organizations like yours are not devoted to a reformation and enlightenment within your tradition (that is the only way the rest of the world will permit your granchildren to have it). Instead you want to add insult to injury (thousands of bombings in the name of your religion by its devout) by deigning to lecture us on bigotry. As if our thoughts on Islam come from ignorance and not study.

And then the final insult, you wrap yourself in Kuffir values of equality and point your finger at us in the confidence of Sharia superiority.

That (najis) dog don't hunt as someone from the "Lowest Segment" might put it in the plaiest of English.

Posted by: tokyobk at November 6, 2006 10:55 PM

Just because I'm-A-Bedwetter dared to imply that Robert Spencer has virtually no readers, I've decided to buy all of Robert Spencer's books out of pure spite.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 6, 2006 11:01 PM

"Maybe you should consider taking your hate-fest workshops on the road and train bigots how to restrain their hatred so not to expose themselves."

Maybe Mr. Bedier should have a talk with his co-religionist Marwan Ahmad here in Phoenix. He apparently was unable to restrain his hatred and thus "exposed" himself:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25309

Posted by: Don Miguel at November 6, 2006 11:02 PM

Hey Ick Med-

Do you know what you are talking about?

Judging from all these posts one would have to conclude with a "HELL NO"!

Say goodbye now, Ick Med.

My regards to Iblis Hooper.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 6, 2006 11:02 PM

Robert, he calls you 'Bobby'! Do you happen to know this man well enough to allow him to use the diminutive form of your name or is he merely being insulting and overly familiar in an attempt to belittle you - I suspect the latter.

Oh, and by-the-way, I am proud to be a member of "the lowest segment of our society" as Ahmed Bedier phrases it. The "lowest segment of our society" has consistently fought the corner for freedom, for universal suffrage, for equality before the law, for employment rights, for free speech, for womens' rights, for gay rights, for democracy at all levels, for trade union law, for free employment law, for universal education, for... for... for... The list is practically endless.

The very statement "the lowest segment of our society" reveals him for what he is - an old-fashioned some-folks-are-born-better-than-others type of person (type of moslem?). That he can use a phrase like that in the 21st. century proves only one thing: that he is an old-fashioned, class-conscious, islamic supremacist and it reveals him to be a man whose concept of modern human society is firmly hierarchical and pyramidical. For him there is a top and a bottom to society, a narrow and well defined elite and hoi-polloi (to which we posters at JW/DW obviously belong). He obviously has no concept of the modern 'interlocking groups' concept of society and the implications of that concept, and how we have used that concept to forge our current free society.

It is, of course, no more than one would expect from the moslem-diseased mind but, none-the-less, it is still surprising to see it appearing in print in this century - even from a moslem! Ahmed Bedier has nothing new to offer us for he is not a moderate moslem (Google him), nor is he a rational human being (again, Google him), nor is he an intellect worth debating with (once again, Google him), nor does he say anything, not one jot or tittle, of original worth - he merely spouts the islamic supremacist line with no thought, no reasoning, no application of academic rigour and, above all, with no humanity.

The man is a charlatan, an apology for a human being, the merest cipher in the service of his corrupt ideology. His mind, polluted as it is by islam, cannot come to grips with any objective concept of freedom. He pretends to the status of uber Mensch and in so doing displays to all and sundry his status as unter Mensch.

One single example of the man's duplicity and stupidity will suffice, for all of you can Google to your hearts' content since we still live in a non-moslem, free society (but for how much longer?). Simply go to:

http://www.nysun.com/article/31973?access=312476

and read what he has to say about the Sami Al-Arian trial. That should be enough, but, if it is not, just keep Googling. I guarantee that you will end up as annoyed as I am by the hubris of this man - the sheer, downright lies which he tells coupled with his seemingly inexhaustible ability to rewrite history to suit himself. This man, Ahmed Bedier, is the text-book example, the classic case, of the moslem who has set out, with absolutely no conscience, to dupe the innocent and to pervert the west into the course of the evil ideology that is islam. I have no words too harsh for Ahmed Bedier, but I have many that I will not use on a respectable site such as this.

What a fool the man is.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at November 6, 2006 11:07 PM

Mr Spencer said :
'Note the fury, the contempt, the intent to demean, the will to hurt'
I have found that these features usually characterise any form of 'debate' one has with Muslims. In fact, they are common features of Muslims all round - along with deceiving or trying to intimidate.

Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 6, 2006 11:16 PM

Re: "Bobby, the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society".

This is utter nonsense and means just the opposite since Jihadwatch provokes much thought re Islam and belief-systems in general. Bigotry to this person is any criticism based on fact-reason that he cannot refute. It's an emotionally immature response without any intellectual content.

No one is supposed to notice that adherents of this gentleman's belief-system kill innocent people simply because they are Jews or other unbelievers. However, as per the belief-system, an unbeliever is not innocent simply because that person does not believe (and sometimes openly criticizes) the belief-system. Therefore, when an unbeliever is killed by adherents of this gentleman's belief-system, this gentleman can truly say that the belief-system forbids the killing of innocent people and for unbelievers to say otherwise is bigotry.

The belief-system is treated as a fact in declaring unbelievers not innocent by their unbelief. But guess what? People don't believe in this belief-system and many are becoming very critical of the belief-system and many are indeed innocent victims of the dogmas of the belief-system. The fact that Muslim believers do not rise up against the Jihadists everywhere and march to condemn them is because they know the Jihadists represent true Islam.

In the future, many unbelievers are going to openly question the sanity of this belief-system. People like OBL and other Jihadists are best understood in the context of mental illness.

Posted by: Frank at November 6, 2006 11:18 PM

I would like to know exactly how he defines "lowest segment." My family has always been hard-working and patriotic Americans. One grandfather was in the Navy & the other in the Airforce (served in Korea). I come from farming, manufacturing, and secretarial stock. We pay our taxes, vote, and generally try to help our neighbors. I have a college degree, and have not been without a job since I graduated 10 years ago. If this is his definition of "lowest segment," then I would have to lift my hands and say "Guilty as charged - thank God!"

Posted by: Cait at November 6, 2006 11:22 PM

Perhaps Mr. CAIR's time would be better spent exhorting people of his OWN faith (read: false religiony)refrain from hate.... you know, cleaning one's own house before venturing over to the neighbors and pontificating over there...

Posted by: angryeagle at November 6, 2006 11:25 PM

I’ve got friends in low places, where the whiskey drowns and the beer chases Bedier away, and that’s A OK.

As he’s not big on social graces, let's send him back to his oasis, and us Infidels will still be here, in low places.

Cheers Bedier!

Posted by: limes at November 6, 2006 11:39 PM

Perhaps Monsieur Bedier suffers from too many trips to his proctologist in order to have his undershorts surgically removed.

Posted by: dms at November 6, 2006 11:44 PM

Now, now, play nice mm k? Geez, when Ahmed went to St. Paul's Catholic Church near St. Petersburg, Florida and spoke of harmony and peace...wow... His writings seem to run counter eh? I wonder if I printed out his "comments" and sent them to Father if they'd finally begin to pray for the Pope's blessing during the Prayers of the Faithful again...mmm.
Now, he just might be practicing some of his al Taqeah on us...a Jedi mind trick of sorts...his deceit can't fool us.. We are actually the HIGHEST segment. Use the Force young Ahmed...use the Force. Do or do not, there is no try.

Posted by: SickBoy at November 6, 2006 11:51 PM

I would welcome being labeled an "Islamophobe." Unlike the specious and meaningless "homophobe" epithet, I think Islamophobe is right on target. The civilized world has everything to fear from Islamists, for they are the intolerant and violent bunch that threaten civilization and free men everywhere. Thus, in future arguments and confrontations, I would beseech Robert to embrace the characterization by detractors, while making the same points for the same reasons.

Posted by: prman at November 6, 2006 11:54 PM

No, you don't want to be an "Islamophobe" because a phobia is a 'irrational fear'. There is certainly nothing irrational about our fear.

Posted by: charles martel at November 7, 2006 12:00 AM

Ey yo, Bobby Spencah, you besta cool down, dawg! You gosta stop bashing islam cuz you got CAIR after yo A$$.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 7, 2006 12:02 AM

What gall this lowlife muslim creature from the Wahabbi school of hate has to call us the "lowest segment" of a society he detests and intends to transform into an islamic cesspool! He is not even a legitimate member of of our society so how could he recognize its lowest segment, unless he considers all non-muslims to belong to that group.

This muslim fifth columnist must feel very threatened to delve into matters he knows absolutely nothing about, like who reads Jihadwatch. Sorry pal, but your secret is out and we, the "lowest segment" of American society, are spreading the word far and wide every day! And by the way, "Islamophobe" is not even a real word, so shove it.

Posted by: Susanp at November 7, 2006 12:15 AM

charles martel (small "c", small "m")

I've been posting here for over three years under the moniker Charles Martel. As I've asked in the past, please muster some creativity and choose another nickname.

Charles Martel

Posted by: Charles Martel at November 7, 2006 12:18 AM

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Posted by: Shy Guy at November 7, 2006 12:18 AM

If it wasn't for the Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades I would never have started researching Islam and have since read many books on the subject by a diverse range of authors.

I like the view from the 'bottom' you get to see the real dirt and the real Truth compared to the 'truth' as it is proposed by groups like CAIR. My thanks to Robert and his friends for their continued good works.

Posted by: JamesThailand at November 7, 2006 12:21 AM

the lowest segment of our society

I knew going to that United Nations reception would come back to haunt me.

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia at November 7, 2006 12:22 AM

I wear Mr. Bedier's hatred and contempt like a badge of honour.

Darrell Goodman
Toronto, Canada

Posted by: Darrell at November 7, 2006 12:38 AM

well i stop by here once in a while, now it will be everyday,,,,, thanks for this site, and i am also happy to be part of the lowest segment of our society.

Posted by: bcgirl at November 7, 2006 12:38 AM

"I like the view from the 'bottom'

Posted by James Thailand

Me too. Matter of fact, Bedier, you oughta join us lower elements of society. After all, Islam's days are numbered. That's even more clear in light of the uplifting and spiritually edifying example and elegant style modelled by ambassadors like you. (By the way, its "Mr. Spencer" to you; "Bobby" is a little too informal for you to use when addressing your natural better, but I guess such crudity is to be expected given the source).

You can rest assured that if you abandon the false and depraved creed of Islam you'll be congratulated here by people from all over the world, as the number of posters so far indicates. By the way, I'd say that at least one third, maybe closer to one half of those posting in this thread are people I don't recall ever hearing from before, and I've been posting here regularly here for months.

Just think: all of these people are making themselves heard here just to say hello to you. Not bad for a site that nobody pays attention to.

Posted by: templar at November 7, 2006 12:46 AM

Ahmed is no stranger to making stupid statements. I just researched some of the things he's said publicly, and lets just say that he's one very popular guy among his peers -- NOT!

Posted by: champ at November 7, 2006 12:50 AM

Interesting.

On Mon 11/6/2006 5:36 AM, I emailed a letter to all the Florida C.A.I.R. propagandists, with a copy to the Florida Republican Party, copy to Gov. Jeb Bush, and the St. Pete Times. Then also to Hernando Today. Also copied Mr. Hogan.

The email concerned Hernando County Commissioner Tom Hogan and the attempt by Gov. Bush and the Florida Republican party to make Mr. Hogan apologize for agreeing with his wife that Islam is a "hateful, frightening religion". C.A.I.R. is trying to force his resignation and people are calling poor Mr. & Mrs. Hogan, racists and bigots for speaking the truth.

Here is that email in which I mentioned your website:

Dear Ms. Asjylyn Loder:

If you believe the lie that Islam is peaceful, then read the Quran. Also see http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Other good sites are:

http://prophetofdoom.net/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/

When you read the Quran you realize that it is an evil religious and political ideology. It is evil like Nazism, but worse in that such vile deeds are done in the name of “ALLAH”. The life of the false “prophet” Muhammad is one of murder, pedophilia, and slavery/subjugation. The Quran also teaches it is ok to lie to Kafirs like us. We become “useful idiot’s” for them. See http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_17095.shtml in the Persian Journal by Amil Imani.

Apparently, besides many in the Democratic party, Jeb Bush and the Florida Republican party are “useful idiots” and I say that out of sadness being a Republican.

Lying for Allah is okay according to the eminent Islamic scholar Imam Ghazali who wrote:

"When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745).

Imam Ghazali does not say this without knowledge. He is basing his fatwa on the words and examples of the Prophet himself.

In one hadith we read that the prophet calls upon his followers to assassin Ka’b ibn Ashraf, the chief of a Jewish tribe who was wary of Muhammad and tells them it is okay to tell a lie to deceive him. Bukhari, Volume 5, #369
The fact is that Muslims feel no pang of conscience to lie if that lie is said for Allah’s sake and his religion. If the lie is said for a good cause it is okay.

Another popular lie is that we worship the same God is not true. No one with intellectual honesty can say we worship the same God after comparing the Bible to the Quran.

One of the many differences between Islam and Christianity is this:

Muhammad says SUBMIT…

Jesus says DECIDE…

Islam means submission.

I applaud the Hogan’s for their courage in speaking the truth. As a Republican, I am dismayed that Gov. Bush and the Florida Republican Party are not standing up for the Hogan’s in exercising their free speech, but would rather condemn them for not being political correct . Such is done out of ignorance of the truth.

Mr. Hogan asked if people read the paper. Europe is in a crisis with their Muslims & Muslim immigration and if things don’t change soon, then Western civilization will lose Europe. Riots by Muslims are rampant in Sweden and France; yet the dhimmi politicians are in fear along with the press, so they refer to the rioting Muslims as “youths”. What happens in Europe will only foreshadow what can occur here in the United States. Luckily, for us the numbers of Muslims in our country is not as great, hence as threatening, as in Europe. But that can change here in the U.S. in time.

If you ask most non-Muslim Europeans, they will tell you that Islam is a hateful, frightening religion. Ask the French police or French firefighters as they are attacked. Ask the British citizen who sees Muslim protestors with signs saying they will dominate Europe or Death to Israel or Pope. Ask the Danes who see murder in their streets for anyone having an opinion or making a movie that displeases Muslims. There will be a civil war in Europe one day, i.e. non-Muslims verses Muslims. Unless of course, the Europeans capitulate, i.e. submit and pay the tax. The violence perpetrated by Muslims in Europe cannot continue to go on forever. People are getting angry.

Even Australia is having to deal with the cancer of Islam, but they are taking the approach that if you can’t accept Australian values then you should leave. Furthermore, that Sharia will never be the law in Australia.

All cultures are not equal. Islam is a culture of violence both politically and religiously if one believes what the Quran actually says. Islam is evil and as Thomas Mann is quoted as saying: “Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil”.

Virtually every major problem involving persecution and terrorism in the world is committed at the hand of Islam. One only has to pull their head out of the sand and look.

Islam’s intent is to dominate the world and it will use the sword to do so. The Pope was/is right.

So God Bless the Hogan’s and in the end they will be proven right and hopefully when it is not too late because of “useful idiots”.

I look forward to the day the tyrannical cancer of Islam, a religious and political ideology, is eradicated from the lands of the West. But it won’t be easy and sadly it won’t be nice. But then again, the Quran teaches the Muslim not to play nice.

This letter is brought to you by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution and no one will deny my right to speak freely.

(Deleted my name here for webpost), Esq.
Attorney at Law

Posted by: Levi at November 7, 2006 12:51 AM

Reading the comment, it seemed to me that Mr. Bedier was either drunk or was raving mad over Robert’s successes. But he has a web-site that is well worth reading, if for nothing else than his grin. Reading his interaction with posters, it seems like he’s always drunk or hates anybody who disagrees with him (sound familiar?). It doesn't seem like you're special Mr. Spencer, sorry. Here’s one gem:

To the "I don't hate Muslim" person:

It's very clear that you not only HATE Muslims with a passion, but you're also scared to death of them. Your comment reveals extreme ignorance of Islam and Muslims (i.e. "you don't like our freedoms") what are you talking about we don't like your freedoms. Like you have some monopoly on freedom and your assume that Muslims are just some visiting folks that need to return to their Islamic countries. You should read up on your history. Muslims have been in America before it's indpendence and are part of this great nation. We don't hate freedom, we love it.

http://ahmedbedier.blogspot.com/

Posted by: limes at November 7, 2006 12:52 AM

I enjoy reading responses from CAIR associates . . . especially as it unveils (pun intended ahmed) their insecurities.

Responses like those of Ahmed confirm Jihadwatch minions are on the right track.

Ahmed, let's just say, you inspire me - and that's no compliment.

Posted by: miira at November 7, 2006 1:04 AM

"handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society"

Lowest segment?

Good lord. And here I thought I was a respected geneticist in my area, noted for my innovative contributions and astoundingly novel ideas. I had no idea I was so low. I shall certainly continue to rise; and to remember.

Dr. Geoff

Posted by: Geoff at November 7, 2006 1:07 AM

Does CAIR host a course on suicide bombing? I thought i saw that they are hosting a "compassionate seminar on suicide bombing." Cause jeez....people in their little "cult" sure have that down to a science....why arn't women, children, the elderly, and disabled people just the perfect targets for maryrdom? I know that firing rockets into Israel must be loads of fun. Heck human shields (women and children) are so hot right now in gaza. Why dosen't CAIR write a letter to their boys Osama, Al-Zawhaari, and that little rat man in Iran. Tell them that we love them here in America and we welcome the day that we bow down to Allah and become dhimmis. But that would take too much time, after all it takes a lot of time to do drive bys on websites that don't welcome the religion of suicide bombing, female genital mutilation, gang rapes, women not being able to go out unless they are in a tent, infidel hating, and just down right player hating? Just let me know when CAIR decides to stop schilling for suicide bombers and i'll check out some of that middle eastern goat porn thats so hot in iraq right now.

Posted by: infidel13 at November 7, 2006 1:12 AM

All this 'fury, the contempt, the intent to demean, the will to hurt' that seems to characterise so many Muslims, I have a theory about this, I won't spell it out here since I don't want to shock Mr Spencer, but it's kind of a Freudian compensation theory if you know what I mean, regarding inadequacy if you know what I mean.

Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 7, 2006 1:14 AM

The most scientifically plausible explanation for Mr. Bedier's verbal flatulence can be found here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2C9lIfz33u0

Posted by: dame cecily at November 7, 2006 1:19 AM

As a daily reader of Jihad Watch, I am greatly honored to be considered the lowest segment...blah, blah, probably worse seeing as I am a (gasp) woman. I even give out this website to other women, in the hopes that they too will become educated by the great Robert Spencer. I even plead with them to read his books, and Oriana Fallaci's too. Keep on keeping on Robert, you're obviously pushing their buttons with the truth. Maybe, just maybe if they really are seekers of the truth the scales may fall from their blind eyes and they will see the light. Thanks again, for being a voice crying out in the wilderness.

Posted by: Liana at November 7, 2006 1:20 AM

What does Ahmad have in common with farts?

Give up?

They both make loud, obnoxious sounds -- leaving a rank, lingering stench behind (no pun intended on the "behind" part).

Posted by: champ at November 7, 2006 1:26 AM

Ahmed:

Sorry Pal but my family got here before yours did. We've had members going to fine, Highly recruited, CHRISTIAN Universities and Law Schools, (UCLA, University of Chicago, Yale,) in the United States since we got here in 1642. We've also had members in the armed forces in every major conflict so we're heavily invested.

We set up the system and it's not ever going to Sharia so if you don't like that you'd better move on to say, Kuwait or Yemen, and the sooner the better. Take your pathetic organization with you. No one with an education is fooled by your Taqiya.

I sent my daughter to do relief work at a Christian orphanage in Africa that gives education and support to young boys who were formerly slaves of Islamic families.

We've seen up close and personal what Islam does to the less powerful in their societies.

It's really ugly.

Posted by: ScottsCove at November 7, 2006 1:28 AM

Bedier stated

The majority of Americans do not respect bigots like yourself that spread hate daily

Actually, he is partially correct but the irony will be lost on him.

The qu'ran, sira and hadith prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Islam is the religion of bigotry that spreads hate daily.

Mr. Spencer simply provides examples of Islam's bigotry as practiced daily on a contemporary global scale. Tough looking in the mirror, eh Ahmed?

Count me as one of the handful of visitors (some hand you got there Mr. Spencer) reading this illuminating site on a daily basis.

Posted by: justamomof4 at November 7, 2006 1:33 AM

[Does CAIR host a course on suicide bombing?]

Yes, but they keep losing students and teachers when they get to the detonation lesson and can't figure out why

Christian news and commentary at: target="_blank">sacredscoop.com ...

Posted by: CottShop at November 7, 2006 1:43 AM

It's an honor to be considered a "bigot" by this man. Keep up the good work jihadwatch.

Posted by: infidel at November 7, 2006 1:56 AM

Man - does Bedier, Executive Director of the Tampa, Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations ever sound like he is grasping at staws - really desparate. Let's all give that turd the rhetorical nonesense award of the month. Muslims need more than words to convince the rest of us that they aren't a mob of inbred religious zealots bent on the destruction of everything they hate yet paradoxically, everything they need. The world wants to see actions that show us all real progress away from jihad based islamofacism ideals.

How did this jackass get his job ?? An Executive Director ?? How much does he get paid ?? I'll spout meaningless rhetoric that nobody cares about for less money - just a thought - I can use the money. lol

Posted by: KJ-North-in-Canada at November 7, 2006 2:05 AM

Excuse me!

Oh that's better, I have put on my glasses and now I can read JihadWatch.

There are still too many people with bad eyesite, wearing the PC Perscription and it is stopping them from focusing on the truth.

Posted by: raz at November 7, 2006 2:07 AM

Disturbing AND chilling!

C.A.I.R. needs to be returned from whench it came -- the bowels of hell!

Posted by: champ at November 7, 2006 2:09 AM

Denial and accusations of Islamaphobia are tools being well used by the Jihadis. So, of course they're going to say that no one reads this blog. Idiots. By the way, I linked to your blog in one of my rants (The Religion Of The Perpetual Tantrum) at Say Anything http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Pilgrim/

Read it if you get the chance.

Your blog is not only doing a great service - it's doing an essential one. I hope the west wakes up before it's too late.

Posted by: Pilgrim at November 7, 2006 2:10 AM

By the way Mr. Spencer,

I just bought the book "The Truth About Mohammed"

Very excellent Scholarly Work.

YeeeAhmed:

You are a loser. Your religion is a loser. It has turned every nation it has infected into a stinking cesspool of misery for large numbers of the people punctuated by violence and thirst for blood, usually by the Islamic thugs running said countries. The lowest rungs on the Human ladder, are Islamic Countries.

Just following your so-called prophet's example of course.

Posted by: ScottsCove at November 7, 2006 2:12 AM

The fact is - they are loosing their night sleep due to these trends -
http://www.google.com/trends?q=jihad+watch&date=all&geo=all&ctab=0&sa=N

Posted by: Who are you at November 7, 2006 2:20 AM

Count this PhD holder as being proud to be associated with Bobby Spencer and his legion of low life followers.

Fellow lowest segments of society I salute you.

Posted by: km at November 7, 2006 2:21 AM

Bobby,( ouch, I'm sure that hurt) the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society.
hmm i guess as a medilcly retired trucker i mihgt be in that lowest segment of our society. since unlike
amed i chose to do a blue collar job because i loved the freedom of the open road and being able to see the wounder of the usa i am far from stupid with a iq of 175 and i would still be working at a job i love but for 2 stokes that have put me into a wheel chair and the loss of one eye and reduced vision in the outher it makes it had some times to read jihad and dhimmi watch even when i have to use my screen reading software on a day like today when things get realy blurry ,
the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society. bigot a person or group that obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

The majority of Americans do not respect bigots like yourself that spread hate daily i guess he must hate himself since his entir post was bigoted and cair has showen itself to be vey pro plo ect and screems blue murder any time any one questions cair or islam I believe this statement was from a founding CAIR member.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." (stated at Islamic conference held in Freemont, California, July of 1998)
hatred and intolerance
the above statement sounds very bigoted to myself
islam is a very intorant cult and all you do to see the face islam showes to jewdisamim and coptic crhistains the fact is cair has been showen to be very bigoted towards anyone that stands and point out how they have been suporting isreal what we should do is send aemail to shaik Ahmed Bedierat info@cair-florida.org and show him just how many of us lowest segment segment of our society there are out hear , and i will bet not one of our posts get on his web site as islam does not permit anyone to question islam and its followers to see just what islam is like under sharia law just look at the folowing We warn the American administration and its collaborators not to hurt Saddam Hussein because ... we will target all foreigners, especially the Americans and their British supporters," one of the men said, without giving his name. "We warn all foreigners in the Gaza Strip, especially the Americans, that they will be kidnapped and killed in front of witnesses." THIS THE CULT OF PEACE??
Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96
THE ABOVE FROM THE QURAN SOUNDS VERY BIGOTED
AND THIS
# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# Fight them until "religion is for Allah." 2:193

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Intermarriage is forbidden. 2:221
3:73 And believe not save in one who followeth your religion - Say (O Muhammad): Lo! the guidance is Allah's Guidance - that anyone is given the like of that which was given unto you or that they may argue with you in the presence of their Lord. Say (O Muhammad): Lo! the bounty is in Allah's hand. He bestoweth it on whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-KnowinG
# Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66

# Allah has cursed them for their unbelief. 2:88

# The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. 2:89

# Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96
HERE THE QURAN IS PICKING ON JEWS YET AGAIN
# ews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims. 4:51

# "Those (Christians and Jews) are they whom Allah hath cursed." 4:52

# Hell is sufficient for their burning. 4:55
ANS LETS NOT FORGET Taqiyya which means deception in Arabic is the cornerstone of Muslim relations with Kafirs (non-Muslims). Muslims are encouraged to deceive Kafirs all along. The technique Taqiyya was consistently used in warfare by Muslims and it was this which gave them victory over non-Muslims in addition to their schizophrenic savagery
AND THEY CRY ABOUT THE PALISTIEN RIGHT OF RETURN
WHAT ABOUT THE JEWIS RIGHT OF RETURN AND THE WAY THAT IS NEVER TALKED ABOUT
RIGHT NOW ON CBCNEWS WORLDthey are showing a pro pacistan rally for the taliban and this evening on csi spical victems unit the subject of the show was a afgan father getting his son to kill his sister in the usa because she had dared to love a boy in the usa and sleep with him , the son was aprehended just bording a plane to afganistan and proudly voiced his killing of his sister when his burka clad mother took the stand and told how his diplomat father had handed the knife to him and told him to kill his sister for dareing to love a a unsitible man and regain thier family hounor for speaking out the mother was killed by the father right befor he ran home to afganistan if nothing else it showed muslims like mr bedier to be the sort to hide behind women and children and call those of us who want to address the question of how CAIR's own disingenuousness and constant resistance of legitimate anti-terror efforts fuel suspicion toward the Muslim community -- which suspicion it then trumpets as "Islamophobia" in order to enhance that community's claim to privileged victim status, beyond criticism or reproach
funny how cair and the pro islamic groups are quick to lable any questions about their support of terrorist groups by anyone as Islamophobic racist and bigoted a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
- rac·ist /-sist also -shist/ noun or adject
i dont know about the rest of you but i find what is said in the quran very racist
4:66 And if We had decreed for them: Lay down your lives or go forth from your dwellings, but few of them would have done it; though if they did what they are exhorted to do it would be better for them, and more strengthening;
# "Be ye apes despised and loathed!" 7:166

# Those who refuse to fight for Allah (claiming they are unable) are liars who have destroyed their souls. 9:42

# "Lo! they [the disbelievers] are liars." 29:12

# Would you like to eat the flesh of your dead brother? 49:12

# A hypocritical Jew looks like an ass carrying books. Those who deny the revelations of Allah are ugly. 62:5
# Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61

# Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66
# Disbelievers are losers. 2:121

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# "Who forsaketh the religion of Abraham save him who befooleth himself?"
Cited in the Hamas Charter (Article 27) to condemn the idea of a secular state. 2:130
# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# Fight them until "religion is for Allah." 2:193

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216
as you can see etnic cleansing seems to be some thing that muslims are commaned to do
just look what has happned in india in the name of the fantsy named allah that must have been dreamed up along with the quran when he was high on hash
http://www.voi.org/books.html

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 7, 2006 2:27 AM

The 'lowest segment of society' is, you guessed it, - the adherents of the Mohammedan faith, who have been allowed to settle in the Dar-al-harb, deep behind enemy lines, as a fifth column, the sturmtroopers of the soldiers of Allah, a drag on the welfare system and a cause for extreme, additional and costly security measures against terrorism.

Ahmed Bedier is one of them, without any intention to ever contribute in any postitive way to the infidel host society, the society that allowed him to settle amongst them, who accepted him without prejudice, which is repaid with typical Islamic hatred, propaganda and the essential bigotry that is part and parcel of Islam.

How else could one explain the madness of a people, who tell the world in front of running cameras, that they 'love their Profit more than their own children'-, then, when taken to task and rightly addressed as 'Mohammed-worshippers' - (what else is it?) they are right back in the killing fields and burn embassies, cut throats and make up enough justifications for a life-time...

How else, if not madness and bigotry, would one address the Mohammedan exstasy over the 19 mass-murdering fanatic Arab-muslims, who flew jumbo jets into the WTC on 9/11, only to spout the most idiotic conspiracy theories ('Mossad/the Jooozz/the CIA/BUSH) while in the same breath praising the "magnificent 19"....????

Ahmed: You don't belong in America. True Ahmed: You don't.
Its not your place: Its not meant to go Islamic anytime soon.Think about it Ahmed: America will chew you up and spit you out, Ahmed!

Before breakfast!

Mohammeds cult is more than a mental disorder Ahmed: It is an obsession! Get out while you can, Ahmed!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 7, 2006 2:30 AM

How strange.

Someone who holds an office for an official organization writes a letter like that for all the world to see.

I had always suspected that Muslims are remarkably impolitic by nature.

Posted by: atheling at November 7, 2006 2:38 AM

Dear islamakapigeaters,

Thanks for all the nice verses. I saved them for later use.

It would be great if someone or group did a "QURANIC VERSE FOR THE DAY" where daily emails were sent to the President, Congress, and any other person in "power". Just simply a one line or two of violent Quranic verses.

Perhaps drumming these verses day in and day out into their heads might just stick and get some dhimmis to think.

In case you are not aware, the new Explorer 7 has a feature with a magnifying glass in the lower right corner of the frame. One can dramatically increase the size of the print in webpages to enlarge their size. It is normally set to 100 percent, but can be increased up to a whopping 400 percent by repeated clicking or choosing the little down arrow next to the magnifying glass to make a choice.

I find it useful with my failing with age eyesight.

Posted by: Levi at November 7, 2006 2:44 AM

The person who wrote the letter at http://www.hernandotoday.com/letters/MGB3E2EJ4UE.html is what is called an "USEFUL IDIOT".

For good information of what a "USEFUL IDIOT" is check out:

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_17095.shtml

by Amil Imani of the Persian Journal

Posted by: Levi at November 7, 2006 2:49 AM

“It is honourable to be accused by those who deserve to be accused.”

Such a true statement, being accused of being a low life by a Muslim was music to my ears, thank you for the compliment.

Posted by: Daffersd at November 7, 2006 2:59 AM

Dear Robert,

this man is just too funny with his insults. Others have already noted that he is projecting his own inadequacies as a human being onto you. He is also projecting the inadequacies of the slavish followers of CAIR onto the rest of us.

As a Catholic I am well aware of the Scriptures. I know that there are those who walk in the darkness and they fear the light. This is precisely what I see happening to this sorry specimen of a man.

I note that there are many who visit this site who have degrees. Well, I am also one of the degree qualified visitors to your site. I have recommended this site to other Australians, and I will continue to recommend this site to my friends. BTW my husband has multiple qualifications, and I managed a degree plus my CPA qualification.

Dominic, I noticed your own modesty in not mentioning your own qualifications in the field of archaology. I doubt that Ah'am'mad Bedier would be able to come close to the quality of the readership of this site.

It seems that Ah'am'a'mad'dog Bedier is the one who is full of hate and bigotry. The mere fact that he has dared to label the people who come here as hate mongers and the lowest segment in society proves that he suffers from spending too much time where the sun don't shine.

I wonder when these people will learn to be honest. You know, I do not care for al-Hilaly, but to me he is much more honest in outlook that the likes of Ah'am'a'mad'dog.

Posted by: Maggie4Life at November 7, 2006 3:23 AM

well i sent my email to the winner at cair info@cair-florida.org
how about the rest of you lets all of the lowest dregs of scocity as he calls the readers and posters of jihad watch flood his in box with the qyestions mr spencer posted http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6546\
and demand answer from cair

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 7, 2006 3:30 AM

Bottomline... Jihdast Islam... Islamists... are waging a war against the Free World, Western Civilization... you are either blinded to that or not.

If you listen, if you watch... if you feel you have some stake, some capability of doing something... you do not have your head in the sand, like everyone else.

You look into the future regardless of how much the truth hurts.

The Islamists stand on the shoulders of the Nazis of the Holocaust and so many murderers who came before them.

If it is wrong to expose evil and wicked to hate it, then what is good, and what does one love?

Posted by: NovaRocket at November 7, 2006 3:34 AM

I am often called a bigot for merely cutting and pasting articles from mainstream media that quote what Imams are teaching. As though my spreading knowledge of what they believe is vile, not what they are teaching is vile. It is quite bizarre. I try to remind people, say! It's not me saying this, I'm just the messenger. Don't you think you should know what they are saying? And still, it is quite amazing, I think some people believe that if they can stop discussion of what these people teach, it will go away! Uh, no!

Posted by: Kay at November 7, 2006 3:45 AM

Kay

Let me guess you are told you are looking for reasons to 'hate' muslims or Islam?
I am often told the same thing...if I send links they don't read the obvious. If I say there is something bad about Islam; I am looking for a new Crusade.

Don't feel alone.

I think NovaRocket said it best:
_____________

Bottomline... Jihdast Islam... Islamists... are waging a war against the Free World, Western Civilization... you are either blinded to that or not.
_____________

All I can say is hang in there if you reach only one person you have done good. Even I have reached a couple....

Posted by: Suz at November 7, 2006 4:16 AM

Ok, let's see how many people read this site:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jihadwatch.org%2F&url=jihadwatch.org

For extra entertainment, compare this site to cair.com

Posted by: EvilAunt at November 7, 2006 4:29 AM

"
We need the power. The power comes from the government, and no government will ever listen to, or act on our message. The next best thing would be to fight evil with evil. We can not take the high road. The high road is what the west has taken for 50 years, and look what the result has been. Disaster.
"
I agree with this we have to force governments to listen - its not in their self interests to do a damn thing.
Nothing is ever given without a fight - We need street level agitation just the same as was done for Civil rights in America - if we dont we are in danger of acheiving NOTHING.
It should be a multi-pronged offensive and OFFENSE is the word - we need to be pro active and organised - writting on a web makes us feeol better but acheives little in the real world.
Fighjting in the street is what we need - make them sit up and teke notice - if not we may be out-manouvered

Posted by: johnmac at November 7, 2006 4:32 AM

In denmark we have seen how muslims that we gave asylum have turned against us and traveled the east to spread lies and untruth about denmark and the west.. a total eyeopener!!
Keep telling the trouth about the quoran and keep telling the trouth about Muhammed the pedofile killer.
God bless R Spencer and God bless USA.
Greetings from denmark.

UNITED WE STAND!!

Luke

Posted by: skywalkersen at November 7, 2006 5:13 AM

dear livi thanks for the info on i/e i use fire fox though and you might want to try it using ctrl+ lets you incress the text size as much as you want but as for useing the magifinng feture in i/e sigh no i suffer from wet macular degenaration , it has killed the retnia in mt right eye and is slowly doing the same with my left one but fortunetly most of the time i can see 20/40 corected with it but on days when my bp is up things get very blurrey and i then use my JAWS http://www.hj.com/jaws reader
on thing about being disabled means while i am trying to return to work i have plenty of time to read about islam i have heard first hand from my care giveris just how bad it is for non muslims and women in saudi arabia were he worked for 5 years
and a child hood friend has had quite a fight with her irain ex and his family who want his daughter to were a burka and move to iran and marry a 70year old mula the girl is only 14
fortunely he is not alowed unsupervised vists in canada so he cant grab her
jim va7gpd on 145.94 repeater

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 7, 2006 5:29 AM

Wow , 163 Non-Readers already , and the thread's barely started !
Greetings to all you fellow bottom segmenters , especially Morgaaan Sinclair ... Long time No Postee , or have I just missedreading your postings ? Apologies if so .

Anyway , Slightly OT , but I plead with all you Americans who can vote to PLEASE do so today . Thousands of decent people died to give you that privelege ...
Please Honour them .

Posted by: WeatherPermitting at November 7, 2006 5:52 AM

Off topic:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23245_Hizballah_Leader-_Like_They_Left_Vietnam

There's a clip of Nasrallah stating that America will lose the war in Iraq just like Vietnam...

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 7, 2006 6:01 AM

Dear Robert,

Count me proud to be amongst the 'lowest segment of our society' as per Mr. Bedier's definition. It's pretty obvious by the fact that CAIR cares enough to post here, that they are getting very worried about the enlightenment that your site provides to counter the disinformation that Islamic organizations routinely engage in to hide the true nature of their intentions. There are plenty of us kafirs around, and though we come from so many different cultural backgrounds and have different religious leanings, we are all united here determined to fight and repel the jihadists. I see JihadWatch as the start of an unstoppable tide that will eventually rid the World of this evil ideology called Islam.

Posted by: Razdan at November 7, 2006 6:20 AM

Dear Ronin,

I apologize for writing you into my latest stupid attempt at alternate universe, parody of CAIR proselytization strategy and rightly deserve the scolding. I have enjoyed reading your penetrating insights and quick wit here at JW and hope to continue to do so. If you ever get over to Austin, Texas, I'd enjoy taking you over to Maria's, in my old pick-up, for a Shiner and some "al pastor" tacos.

Sincerely yours,
Malinois, retired parody writer
malinois43(at)yah00

Posted by: Malinois at November 7, 2006 6:26 AM

Yes, it's tough when the CAIR costume no longer disguises the Sharian intentions. Thank you, Robert, I became aware last year.

Posted by: Briars at November 7, 2006 6:37 AM

Bwahahaha!

I read and visit this site on a regular basis and got others to be informed of it as well. This letter by Bedier has given me another reason to register here, hence join the "lowest segment of our society". I feel I have done the right decision.

It also reminds me of the type of emails grade school kids send each other when they have a dispute. Indeed Bedier indicates all signs of being a grade school student at best. Maybe it would be best if he'd go back to his classes and learn how to write effective letters on a mature level rather then adolescent gibberish.

I'm afraid Bedier finds the need to call Robert, "Bobby" as a result of his oddly repressed attraction to... "Bobby". Whoa, that is impressive.

Posted by: Zoe at November 7, 2006 6:52 AM

Robert, thank you for Jihad Watch and Dhimmi Watch. They have certainly helped to educate me and I visit both sites every day. You are a voice in the wilderness - keep up this worthy work.

Anne Martin
Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at November 7, 2006 6:57 AM

The 7th Pillar of Islam

For all Moslems, whether as a group or individually, to assume the role of victim so as to advance the cause, and to never abandon that role, and to always seek and retain the prerogative and treasure that being in the position of the injured party yields.

Ahmed is just doing his job, and following the 10 Pillars of Islam.

But he shouldn't be talking to Spencer, he should be talking to Tim Russert or Bill O'Reilly or any of the hundreds of other opinion celebrities who go Unicorn watching in their spare time.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 7, 2006 7:00 AM

Good reply, Robert. His comment should be seen as

1. CAIR and co. are increasingly becoming agitated due to the number of visitors frequenting this site.(World wide not only US)

2. Islam getting exposed day by day and the number of people quoting your work even if they do not comment here is causing heartburn. Mohammed's (poobah) strategy is to be on offense but your site puts them on the back foot and CAIR does not like it.

Member(lowest segment of our society)

Posted by: infidel11 at November 7, 2006 7:08 AM

This sounds like a membership drive!
If this place gets a ringing endorsement from the likes of Ahmed Bedier, then count me as one of the lowest segments too. Glad to be aboard!
Thank you for this web site!
Keep Speaking the TRUTH.

"I'm proud to be an Infidel, where at least I know I'm FREE..."

Posted by: AlabamaInfidel at November 7, 2006 7:12 AM

It's quite ironic how I'm-A-Bedwetter's comment caused such a huge backlash on his part. Seems his his condescending message to Robert Spencer backfired immensely.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 7, 2006 7:40 AM

Hey Ahmed - There are thousands that not only read Spencer's books and his site, but then share then disseminate the information through conversation, gifting of his books, and linking his blog to ours.

Who knows, there may be more Spencer readers than there are Muslims in the United States as you all represent a mere 0.5 to 2% of the entire population....

In any case, what you call persecution, name calling, surveillnace, pales in comparison to the way non-Muslims are treated in Muslim controlled areas where there continues to be long-term systematic and institutionalized discrimination, harassment and the taking of life of "kuffirs" (infidels that are no better than animals).

The comparison is stunning and your whining and complaining is hypocrisy and out-of-place.

Get a life and stop acting the victim. You are becoming tedious, annoying, and pathetic. Any thinking person can see through you and understand that you are no better than the rabid jihadists that are working to take over. The only difference between you and them is that you are "doing it softly"...

Posted by: Eleanor at November 7, 2006 7:41 AM

Nice to see you posting Luke. Yes, united we stand! God bless Robert Spencer and God bless Denmark too.
Elias,
I read that clip of Nasrallah on little green footballs and it made me real mad. He's wrong.

Posted by: pigtails not veils at November 7, 2006 7:43 AM

Ahmed Bedier has a superiority complex induced by long term Allah intoxication. Reality is only morons follow& emulate a false prophet. Mohammedans are not "the best of people". They are the worst of people. Reading the Koran and taking it seriously lowers your IQ at least 40 points. It makes one stupid and incapable of modern logic and scientific thinking. Emotions and fanaticism rule the Mohammedans and their so called Ummah, not logic

Posted by: dennisw at November 7, 2006 7:46 AM

The 7th Pillar of Islam --->>>

Is whining and always always blaming the nonMuslim. Muslims will play the victim when they are not in power. They will claim racism even though Arabs are white. World's foremost con artists and Achmed Bedwetter is a fine example of this

Muhammad was a charlatan and his zombie adherents merely emulate his lies deceits and conceits

---Correct you are, Alarmed Pig Farmer

Posted by: dennisw at November 7, 2006 7:53 AM

Ahmy boy,
You don't have enough time to waste your efforts at insulting Mr. Spencer - or his readers. You need to spend your time working on your debate notes. Or wear a burka, girly man. Just get some balls or something and haul your butt out on the debate floor. Mr. Spencer will meet you anytime, anyplace. Girly man comments won't cut it with the lower segment of society anyway. Besides, you might get your picture on CNN. That should make your day.

Posted by: tblubrd at November 7, 2006 8:05 AM

He says:

'...Maybe you should consider taking your hate-fest workshops on the road and train bigots how to restrain their hatred so not to expose themselves...'

'how to restrain thier 'hatred'...?

Why should anyone not express their contempt for Islam?

'so not to expose themselves...'?
Because it might be dangerous? (Is he making a threat?)

Kinda like Muslims who routinly 'train' themselves -- to smile in tha face of the American --while taking up residence as a fellow citizen.

Posted by: Court1 at November 7, 2006 8:05 AM

People such as Ahmed Bedier obviously don't know this old saying: "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".

I doubt his people were in the United States before mine; I know they weren't in Canada before mine. I do a lot of genealogy research. Unlike the U.S., in Canada, people were asked their religion in the census. I've never seen the word "Muslim" under religion in the period 1851-1911 (I'm not saying no one was Muslim, but no one in the regions I've studied were).

Posted by: Josephine at November 7, 2006 8:14 AM

OK, OK, I admit it, Ahmed. I'm a segment (I always wondered what being a segment is like!). I'm also a knuckle-dragging, jackbooted ultra right wing christofascist.

There. Does that make you feel better?

Good, because no matter how you condescendingly dismiss Robert or "segments" such as myself, you will still eventually be exposed as the demagogue you are. Your position relies on outright fabrication and distortion, and we knuckle-draggers know what an ad hominem argument is.

Desparate, whining denial coming out of the CAIR camp. Gotta love it. Keep telling the truth, Bobby!

Posted by: Clive at November 7, 2006 8:31 AM

So Ahmed says we're "the lowest segment of our society" huh?
(Singing) I've got friends, in low places...

Seriously, I've encountered what Kay and some of the others have when I forward along inflammatory statements (i.e. the uncovered meat nonsense by that idiot sheik in Oz). You feel like you're being pulled through the looking glass when you're accused of hate speech by pointing out hate speech. Thanks to Robert and the others on this site I think the tide is turning.

Posted by: GoldieLox at November 7, 2006 8:32 AM

One last thought; That was a pretty classy thing that Robert did, removing Ahmed’s dumb comment and going to him for authentication before letting the world read it.

Compare and contrast; I attempted to post a respectful request for an intrepretation of one Qu’ranic statement on Ahmed’s website. Completely respectful and cordial.

You guessed it, censored. This internet is great.

http://ahmedbedier.blogspot.com/

Posted by: limes at November 7, 2006 8:41 AM

It would be unwise to go into all of the evidence for this assertion; your own googling, your own anecdotal evidence, may or may not confirm this obsrevation.

A friend of mine drives trucks. He commented that he has seen "jihadwatch.org - IMPORTANT" written on the walls of truck stops. We all know that muslims have their creepy eyes on trucks. But now they know that we know. The muslim truck drivers are being watched.

Jihadwatch has penetrated all segments of American society. From folks who write to folks who labor. Jihadwatch brings together what the enemy (islam and the muslims that spread it) sought to tear apart. And that has the moslems frightened.

Bobby done good.

Posted by: mtriviso at November 7, 2006 8:45 AM

Dang it!
First Peters, now this guy.
Lowest segment of society?
These guys are ruining my self repect.
Gotta go, its time for my daily beat myself on the head with a shovel for being such a lowlife.

Posted by: tgusa at November 7, 2006 8:49 AM

I think Mr Bedier would be surprised who is reading this site. I have family and friends in Canada who visit this site and are more aware of the threat to peace that Radical Islam and it's supporters are.
I also am half way through the Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and am thoroughly enjoying it. All here at work who have seen it are asking to borrow it when I am finished. Great job Mr Spencer.

Posted by: nccanuck at November 7, 2006 8:52 AM

I am glad that he considers me one of the "lowest segments of society. Robert, Jihad Watch and the many books you have written have inspired me and many others. I did not stop with you though, I have read Bat Ye'or, Walid Shoebat, Ibn Warraq and many other authors.

In the last three years, we have opened many different web sites, forums, blogs and chatrooms on Paltalk.com. I do want you to know that we spread much of what you say in Jihad/Dhimmi Watch through our forums and web sites. (All due credit given all authors of course). We gather news from everywhere and bring it all together for our readers, and Ahmed Bedier needs to know that your site is one of the most well respected and most read anywhere and certainly not the only one.

This is typical of the propaganda that many muslims use to advance their cause. They employ it constantly in chat rooms and blogs. It is the old Hitlerism that, "If a lie is repeated often enough, people will perceive it to be the truth". Your web site has opened the eyes of many people because it IS the truth. Muslims hate the truth and will do whatever they can to kill it in order to continue in their current crusade.

Thank you for everything that you have done and please... NEVER GIVE UP!

Alien2thisWorld
Administrator
War of 2 Worlds

Posted by: Alien2thisWorld at November 7, 2006 8:53 AM

Mr. Spencer,

I just found your site. I have read many of your articles on Frontpage and I am half way through the Truth about Mohammad. I will be a regular visitor. Thank you for the enlightenment and be safe.

P.S. I'm commenting to let you know that you are getting through to the America public......at least to some of us. Thanks again.

Posted by: Harry at November 7, 2006 8:54 AM

Robert,

Goes to show you must be doing something right. God Bless you and keep up the good work.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 7, 2006 8:56 AM

Robert:

I have posted previously that you are a man among men I am proud to be associated in your group of jihad watchers. I would take the insult of our latest critc as the highest admission of your success. Previously, all the world wide puke of the umma was not catalogued and watched as it is now. They realize that as JW continues to MULTIPLY jihad watchers who are alerting others--their ability to operate under cover is lost. Liars like CAIR are now futile against the truth--their DEEDS are now observed by ever increasing thousands. We can now see the connection of terror and the "scourge" (not faith) of islam.

THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT ABOUT WITH THIS IS THAT AFTER THE NEXT MAJOR INCIDENT, UNLIKE 911 WHERE 99.9% OF US WERE SAYING "WHO HIT US?" AND "WHY DO THESE PEOPLE HATE US?"--THIS TIME, THERE GOING TO BE MULITPLIED THOUSANDS WITH A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE AND CONTEXT. THE LIGHTS ARE GETTING TURNED ON THROUGH JW AND THE HATING VERMIN HATE THAT.

Posted by: BB at November 7, 2006 8:59 AM

The esteemed Mr. Bedier states that Spencer provides hate. However, Spencer provides facts.
Bedier states that no one cares about Spencer’s facts and views. Many informed people “of the lower segment of our society” care about Spencer’s facts and views, and these make us more aware of the Islamic jihadist fascist threat, in order to protect ourselves.

Bedier states that the majority of Americans do not respect purported bigots like Spencer. Bedier is outright wrong. Despite most Americans not being aware of Spencer, if they were to become aware, they would respect Spencer. Spencer’s audience certainly respects Spencer.

Bedier states that he is entertained. He will even be more entertained when the Islamic jihadist fascists get their eventual comeuppance. However, sadly, 100’s of thousands of good people and millions of adherents of the Religion Of Peace will die before the jihadists’ agenda become sufficient known and the good people will provide the Islamic jihadists fascists with their just reward/punishment and their jihad is stopped.

Richard

Posted by: PiggDogg at November 7, 2006 9:14 AM

As a proud member of the lowest segment of society, a blogger on this site, one doesn't want to miss one's opportunity to get one's oar in.

Screw you Ibrahim.

One is ready to meet you in the alley, or in the New Yorker, on the street, in crapistan, in the mosque, on the highway, in the media, in the beltway:

you are evil and you will be exposed and opposed and taken on.

(otherwise, rest easy)

Posted by: dgene at November 7, 2006 9:23 AM

Just to let you know that the perpetually outraged individual was correct, I never visit Jihadwatch, nor do thousands of others like me.

Posted by: FREE LEE at November 7, 2006 9:30 AM

HeHe , you don`t have to be Sigmund Freud to see
who is desperate here !
The message is growing and ordinary people and a few in goverments in Europe are now doing more than contributing to forums about the hypocrisy , contradiction and evil that is Islam.
Those Islamofacists must hate the internet more than anything else.

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at November 7, 2006 9:31 AM

You sure are popular with the islamapologists, Robert. Just so your new "friend" Ahmed Bedier knows, my copies of "The Truth About Muhammed" and "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam" were ordered 2 wks ago (Along with books from Oriana Fallaci, Mark Steyn, Lawrence Wright and Melanie Phillips) and am waiting for my friend to bring them back with her from the States (I live overseas). Also, I find it incredibly interesting that Mr Bedier does nothing to address the issues/concerns you raise about islam, but instead resorts to calling you childish names. If he is considered a leader in the muslim community in the US, then we should pay even more close attention to this organization.

Posted by: Renwaa at November 7, 2006 9:50 AM

doubt his people were in the United States before mine; I know they weren't in Canada before mine. I do a lot of genealogy research. Unlike the U.S., in Canada, people were asked their religion in the census. I've never seen the word "Muslim" under religion in the period 1851-1911 (I'm not saying no one was Muslim, but no one in the regions I've studied were).

Posted by: Josephine at November 7, 2006 08:14 AM

Revisionist history is one of islam's trademark techniques to confuse and mislead the public. Islam itself is fatally flawed because it is a contradiction of historical facts, but do you think that matters to muslims?

The only way muslims can legitimize islam is to lie, and muslims are inveterate liars, all of them. To hear muslims tell it, Columbus had muslim crewmembers. Muslims were always "there" first, after all they are the "best of people." Notice the advanced, progressive, prosperous societies they have built around the world, the islamic utopias that people are flocking to for better lives.

Muslims have been decimating modern, advanced civilizations for almost 1400 years, replacing them with decaying, festering landfills populated by savage atavists who exist for the sole purpose of making life a literal hell on earth.

Posted by: Susanp at November 7, 2006 10:00 AM

Ahmed, have you not considered the horrible public relations damage done to Islam by the bigoted supremacist rhetoric of "pious" Muslims, including individuals closely linked to CAIR? JW doesn't make this stuff up. It's only a clearinghouse for the truth.

JW readers may be the "lowest segment," but they sure have company. Polls from Spring of 2006 show:

fewer than one in five say their impression of [Islam] is favorable

Even the Mormons outperformed the Muslims, and only Scientology scored worse.

Suck it, Gadahn.
Suck it, Bedier.

Posted by: Jan III Sobieski at November 7, 2006 10:01 AM

Make that 200.
Mr. Bedier must have a bee in his bonnett .. er .. turban .. I mean.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at November 7, 2006 10:17 AM

If Jihad Watch readers are the lowest segment of society, I'm proud to be a part of it. I recommend this site to everyone I can.

Clearly, Jihad Watch is having an effect, otherswise Beddy Baby wouldn't bother to take the time to put it down. The sound you hear is that of Infidels wising up to the monumental scam known as Islam.

Posted by: Proud Infidel at November 7, 2006 10:20 AM

Nobody reads this.

Nobody. Not me, not my wife, not the kids, not all the friends I tell about it. And none of them tells anybody else.

Nor there is anything like LGF, or the United American Committee.

WELL OF COURSE IF SOMEONE PLANS TO BEHEAD ALL HIS OPPONENTS, for him they are ALREADY nobody. Like in NO - BODY.

Posted by: POITIERS-LEPANTO at November 7, 2006 10:20 AM

"Lowest segment"? First of all, it would appear that the "highest segement" of U.S. society (i.e., our elected leaders and heads of major industry) have their collective heads in the sand on the issues that Robert Spencer talks about every day. Thank goodness, therefore, for the "lowest segment" (whatever that means) because they at least can't be bought by Saudi oil dollars and are smart enough to see through the taqiyya-laden rhetoric of the so-called "moderate" Muslims. The greatest travesty in the history of mankind is the discovery of oil in the middle east - but we (lovers of freedom and truth) will weather this storm as we have all the random flurries of islamic militancy over the past millenium. Remember - islam is its own worst enemy - it is only a matter of time before the world wakes up to the enemy within.

Posted by: truth-will-set-u-free at November 7, 2006 10:30 AM

Mr. Bedier is upset because the attempts by CAIR to enflame the seditionists amongst us here in the United States of America are falling short of their expectations.

Every single informed reader here at Jihad Watch over the past years is making a tremendous difference in this conflict. Do not ever doubt that you can change the future -- simply continue to educate yourselves, never fear the truth and spread the word to your friends, compatriots, family and co-workers whenever prudent.

Keep up the good work Robert and Hugh. Though none of us can be sure what the outcome of this century holds for the West, we can be sure that none of us will go out with a whimper just because the jihadists try to will it to be so when they are on their knees and smacking heads on the concrete.

Foehammer

Posted by: Foehammer at November 7, 2006 10:38 AM

Whether or not it’s Bedier, he or she is probably not drinking. Those from Can’tArgueIslamRationally and other such jihad apologists usually can’t do much better than that. These people seem largely incapable of scholarly debate.

Whoever it is is very likely aware of the reach of Robert Spencer and his fine collaborators and that it is expanding.

Posted by: InfidelWench at November 7, 2006 10:48 AM

We're hep to your game, Ahmed. It is your own hateful, bigoted and megomaniacal quest, from antiquity to the present, that drives the jihad--the murderous Al-Jihad bil-saif & al-Jihad bil-ya (Sword & Hand), the criminal Al-Jihad bi-Mal(Fundraising for the cause) and the lying Al-Jihad bil-Lisan & al-Jihad bil-Qalam (Tongue & Pen) of which you are a part. The antidote to your iniquity is truth.

Posted by: anti-taqiyya-kitman at November 7, 2006 10:48 AM

OT,
I just voted.
I hope everyone does the same. Don’t let the USA’s future be decided by jihazi apologists like this guy. Vote=Freedom.

Posted by: tgusa at November 7, 2006 11:00 AM

I walked into my local Borders on the weekend and there was Robert's latest book right there on the 'new releases' table, front and center. No need to ask a clerk to get one out of the back room, or to find one on some bottom shelf in the History section. (I had long since bought mine online, however) And Armstrong's hagiograph was not on that table.

Honest discussion of islam seems to becoming mainstream these days, and it scares the hell out of this 'achmed' character.

Posted by: Infidel33 at November 7, 2006 11:11 AM

Ick-Med:

I usually never go back to a previous day's story and comment but since "nobody" visits this site I figured it needed all the help it could get so here I am, all by my lonesome self. Wanna write me? I could use the company, even from the likes of an ignoramus like yourself.

Over 200 comments and counting-not bad for a site "nobody" checks out.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 7, 2006 11:14 AM

It's entertaining watching you and your ineffective friends get desperate.......................................

His agenda is showing. He must think we're pushovers.

Posted by: freewoman at November 7, 2006 11:18 AM

Yeah we are pushovers, just like Adams, Jefferson and the other four who would not back down. Good company I think.

Posted by: tgusa at November 7, 2006 11:26 AM

"Even the Mormons outperformed the Muslims, and only Scientology scored worse."
Posted by: Jan III Sobieski
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That's quite a performance. But I seriously doubt Scientology is worse than Islam. I mean, we haven't seen Tom Cruise or John Travolta fly into skyscrapers with their Boeings yet (although, that could happen, since Tom Cruise is nuts). Scientologists may be greedy liars, but they're not terrorists who like to behead infidels in the name of allah.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 7, 2006 11:41 AM

Lowest Segment of Society League UNITE! Forming up now and JihadWatch and BEYOND!!!

Posted by: VileInfidelNeocon at November 7, 2006 11:47 AM

Bedier:

When I studied for a graduate degree in Political Science at a major University many years ago, my area of specialty was totalitarian political ideologies. Even though Exhibit A at that time was Marxism/Leninism/Stalinism, the analytical techniques I learned then have been most relevant and useful in understanding the totalitarian political ideology called Islam.

As you may know, the "lowest segment" of a structure is the load-bearing foundation, which rests on the ground. It is "well grounded." This pretty well describes the thousands (if not millons) of readers of Mr. Spencer's books & blogs -- they are "well grounded" in the truth about Islam. I am proud to be counted in this load-bearing "lowest segment" which is expanding exponentially every day.

You had better watch your back, Mr. Bedier, because your masters at (and above) CAIR Headquarters may legitimately suspect you of being an "agent provocateur" on the secret payroll of the Kuffirs.

Sleep tight!

Posted by: urbanIIredux at November 7, 2006 11:57 AM

Gosh- for nobody reading this site, there sure is alot of replys. Anyone got any stats on Mr. Ahmed's site? I'm guessing it aint anywhere near what this little ole site gets- I just voted for the party of wiretapping and terrorist stompin Republofascists- lookout CAIR- they gots your number!

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Posted by: CottShop at November 7, 2006 12:03 PM

Let's get "Lowest Segment" T-shirts.

Posted by: Lastango at November 7, 2006 12:09 PM

Robert:

Please add me to that list of Lowest Segments. I would enjoy the honor and the company.

Posted by: texan at November 7, 2006 12:19 PM

There can be no greater compliment from Islamic apologists than an ad hominem attack on the person who dares criticize this religion. Robert Spencer is in noble company, including the Pope.

Enlightenment and dialogue flow from direct responses to claims and allegations. For example, if the statement (quoted by the Pope) that Mohammed introduced only things which were evil and inhumane, why doesn't a knowledgeable spokesperson for Islam present a list of the "good things" Mohammed introduced. I have asked this question of many experts on Islam, and so far, no response.

Perhaps it is time for a new public relations firm to replace CAIR. I would suggest some ground rules for their new operation in the U.S.:

1. Stop playing the victim card.
2. Don't make statements that can't be backed up
with facts and data.
3. Intimidation and blackmail will never work
over the long haul in a free society.
4. We all live in "glass houses."
5. Defending the indefensible and denying the
undeniable are big wastes of money and ink.
6. Wishing something doesn't make it so. (So lay
off the Photoshop.)
7. Lighten up a bit.

At the same time, Westerners must never lose sight of the sad fate of the poor souls under the yoke of Islam. They are the greatest victims -- not of Western opposition, but of their own Islamist agitators. We must remember the words of the famous French philosopher Ernest Renan: “Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels in the Orient, that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain the others in the practice of religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him.”

Posted by: Chris at November 7, 2006 12:24 PM

"Lowest Segment of Society League UNITE! Forming up now and JihadWatch and BEYOND!!!"
Posted by: VileInfidelNeocon
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Hey, I think we got an acronym there: L.S.S.L., united in the battle against CAIR.

lolol

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 7, 2006 12:31 PM

I'v noticed many names I'm not familiar with to the above posts. To any knewcomers,welcome to the LSS (lowest segments of society.) Invite a friend to check out jihadwatch. Off the beaten path a bit,but isn't mr. bedeir darling?

Posted by: mustang65 at November 7, 2006 12:33 PM

This site has a HUGE number of readers & posters.

The so called "infidels" are starting to wake up all around the world. CAIR is trying to push this fact off into obscurity.

If CAIR is so concerned with Islamic Relations, and if they want relations, then why is it we don't see massive speeches and rallies by so called moderate muslims against Islamic Jihad and Terror in America and all around the world?

I suspect it is because if the moderates are someday forced to take a side, they will side with Jihad.

Posted by: sounder at November 7, 2006 12:47 PM

Chris,
Are you serious? Are you new to the world? Do you feel the need to sacrifice yourself for repressionists? Wake up before it is too late for you. This is mainstream, look, listen and learn. Does it matter what you thought you saw in a galaxy far, far away, look around the world now! You want them to lighten up, for what, for you to have your life and **** everyone who comes behind you? How narrow and selfish that is! I want them to pour it on, bring it if they can. They can’t, they don’t want help, they have alla. Do you think that they will throw away their 1400 year old beliefs for our ideas?

Posted by: tgusa at November 7, 2006 12:50 PM

If being the lowest segment in society is wrong, you guessed it, I don't wanna be right.

Posted by: mustang65 at November 7, 2006 12:58 PM

Sssssure Mr. Bedier...no one is watching...no one is reading...keep wishing you were right.

I'm either unable to post or the show of force on many topics here says what I would already say.

I visit this site EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR. I have done so since three years past. I've donated to this site and will keep doing so when I can. All the while spreading the word about this so-called religion of peace...(my atheist ass!)

Posted by: Quantum Infidel at November 7, 2006 1:07 PM

I think Mr. Bedier has helped tremendously to further our cause. I wonder how long we can keep this thread going in order to set a record. I'm proud to be a segment.

Posted by: dms at November 7, 2006 1:08 PM

Here is a great little summation of the evils of cultural relativism:

In his excellent book, The Killing of History (San Francisco: Encounter Books, 2000)Keith Windschuttle says, among many other intelligent things, as follows:

"The late Ernest Gellner pointed out the basic logical flaws in cultural relativism. In his book Postmodernism, Reason and Religion, Gellner showed that relativists are saddled with two unresolvable dilemmas. They endorse as legitimate other cultures that do not return the compliment. Some other cultures, of which one of the best known is Islam, will have no truck with relativism of any kind. The devout are totally confident of the universalism of their own beliefs which derive from the dictates of God, an absolute authority who is external to the world and its cultures. They regard a position such as postmodern cultural relativism as profoundly mistaken and, moreover, debasing. Relativism devalues their faith because it reduces it to merely one of many equally valid systems of meaning. So, entailed within cultural relativism is, first, an endorsement of absolutisms that deny it, and, second, a demeaning attitude to cultures it claims to respect." (p. 301-2)

Posted by: Mentat at November 7, 2006 1:17 PM

General Napier on Suttee:

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

Posted by: Mentat at November 7, 2006 1:19 PM

What is Sharia law?

http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21475

Here are some examples of Shariah law:

1. Offensive, military jihad against non-Muslims is a communal, religious obligation;
2. A person who is ignorant about Islamic legal opinion must follow the legal opinion of a scholar;
3. The penalty for a Muslim apostate (someone who no longer believes in or no longer follows the tenets of Islam) is death;
4. When slaughtering animals for food, a knife must be used to cut the windpipe and gullet;
5. A woman is only eligible to receive half the inheritance of a man;
6. Marriage may be forced on virgins by their father or father’s father;
7. A non-Arab man may not marry an Arab woman;
8. A woman must seek permission from her husband to leave the house;
9. A Muslim man cannot marry a woman who is a Zoroastrian, an idol worshipper, an apostate from Islam or a woman with one parent who is Jewish or Christian, with the other being Zoroastrian; a Muslim woman cannot marry anyone but a Muslim;
10. A free Muslim man may marry up to four women;
11. Retaliation is obligatory in most cases when someone is deliberately murdered except when a Muslim kills a non-Muslim, a Jew or a Christian kills a Muslim apostate or a father or mother kill their offspring;
12. Non-Muslim subjects (Ahl al-Dhimma) of a Muslim state are subject to a series of discriminatory laws – “dhimmitude”;
13. The penalty for fornication or sodomy is being stoned to death;
14. The penalty for an initial theft is amputation of the right hand. Subsequent thefts are penalized by further amputations of feet and hand;
15. A non-Muslim cannot testify against a Muslim in court; a person who is “without respectability” cannot give legal testimony; a woman’s legal testimony is only given half the legal weight of a man’s (and is only acceptable in cases involving property); to legally prove fornication or sodomy requires 4 male witnesses who actually saw the act;
16. The establishment and continuation of the Islamic Caliphate (by force, if necessary) is a communal obligation;
17. Sodomites and Lesbians must be killed;
18. Laughing too much is forbidden;
19. Musical instruments are unlawful;
20. Creating pictures of animate life is forbidden;
21. Female circumcision, which includes the excision of the clitoris, is obligatory;
22. Slavery is permitted;
23. People may be bribed to convert to Islam;
24. Beating a rebellious wife is permissible; and,
25. Lying is permissible in a time of war (or jihad).

Posted by: Mentat at November 7, 2006 1:22 PM

Here is an interesting article by a Muslim convert on how best to convert non-Muslims; we must study the tactics of the enemy. Know your enemy, I say.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/emerick5.htm

Building a Better Dawah Program

Muslims have perhaps the least organized community in the world, yet we are gaining converts faster than anyone else. But what if we were more organized? American convert Yahiya Emerick sets out a strategy to utilize our resources and build up the size and strength of the Muslim community.

"So brother," he asked me, "how did you become a Muslim?" Now this isn't a rare question for one who embraced Islam. In fact, it seems this was the most often asked question in my first two years of entering the faith. Alhumdulillah, "born" Muslims always have a keen interest in how others have found their way into the fold of Islam.

Partly this is a reaffirmation of their own identity, ("Hey, if others are choosing it then it must be good") and partly it is often an unusual phenomenon not seen in the countries from where the average Muslim came. ("Hey, converts are like aliens from outer space in my country.")

Whatever the motivation, I sometimes lament being the only convert in a crowd or at a meeting. I don't have any prejudicial feelings towards my fellow compatriots in the deen, I merely wish there were more people who accepted Islam around me so I could experience the feelings of reaffirmation and say, "Alhumdulillah" too.

It's really amazing when you think about it. We have perhaps the least organized community in the world- even the Hindus are more organized world-wide- yet we are gaining converts faster than anyone else. Some attribute this to the Mercy of Allah, others add that it is a testament to the truth of Islam.

But what if we were more organized? What if we had million dollar da'wah centers for the total work of spreading Islam? What if we rented out stadiums and did Billy Graham style conversion drives? What do you think? I tell you that in my gut I am convinced we would have so many converts that we would be surprised if we met someone who wasn't Muslim.

Islamic teachings beat Christian hodge-podge doctrines any day of the week. You and I know this. Hinduism, Bahaiism, Buddhism and the new age movement have nothing on us. They can't even touch our coat-tails. So how can we utilize our resources to rival everyone even further and build the size and strength of our community?

To begin with, we have to get our act together and organize national standards for da'wah workers, literature and programs. Let me illustrate why: Have you ever attended the following type of da'wah gathering? The mostly-Muslim audience shows up late, the speaker can't speak English right, the sound system squeals horribly, the refreshment table is filled with warm milk-tea and half-eaten doughnuts and the da'wah literature, if there is any, is poorly written gobbledygook which wouldn't convince a mouse that it likes cheese.

I'm sure you can relate to such experiences. For all the good intentions, the entire atmosphere was skewed. Non-Muslims, if they could read the hand-scrawled announcements taped on telephone poles, leave with the feeling that there's nothing for them here.

But what would national standards encompass? It's nearly impossible to get anyone, especially our leaders, to agree on anything. So to solve this problem, I'm going to pretend I have the ear of every Muslim in the country and I'm going to impose national standards right now. So listen up everyone and take notes!

First, nobody will be allowed to speak in front of non-Muslims, or Muslims for that matter, unless they can speak the language of the people clearly. We don't want any thick accents, no Englabic or Urdulish. Only clear, understandable English. No exceptions no matter how "big" the man is.

Second, the only topics that will be allowed in any gathering where non-Muslims are addressed will be limited to subjects about life, our purpose, Allah' guidance/forgiveness, the Qur'an and its role in life and the example of the Blessed Prophet. There will be no lectures on fiqh, politics, tassawuf, Unani healing or the psychothematic paradigms found in the writings of obscure Persian or Urdu poets. No exceptions no matter how "big" the money behind the event is.

Third, women will be allowed to address non-Muslim and Muslim audiences on any of the above approved topics with the addition of the role and rights of women in Islam. (Men will not be allowed to speak at length about this topic but can mention it. You figure out why.) Women will be allowed to decide what they wish to speak about and will be given authority in the planning and carrying out of the da'wah program. Women will appear in proper, fashionable hijab. Duppattas and circus tents need not apply.

Fourth, all programs will be planned well in advance. Sound systems will be checked and rechecked many times for quality reception. Reliable people will be assigned duties in advance and will be briefed many times as to their function. Ushers will be present (not eleven year olds) and the program will not exceed two hours. Everything will proceed on time and the program will begin on time no matter how many "big-shot" community members are late. (Remember: today's big-shots are tomorrow's people of the grave. Don't fear them or the money that is temporarily in their hands.)

Fifth, all children under twelve- and babies- will remain at home. The only exception to this rule is when on-site day-care is available. In such a case, under no circumstances will these children be allowed in the main program area.

Sixth, only da'wah materials approved by native-English speaking Muslims will be distributed. For a current list of approved da'wah literature, see the book, "How to Tell Others About Islam" available from most Islamic bookstores. If you don't have your materials read for accuracy and readability first, don't use them.

Seventh, no da'wah program or effort can be initiated unless the following three criteria are met: 1) good, friendly da'wah workers must be utilized. 2) A follow-up plan for interested prospects must be developed. 3) A mentor program linking converts with designated "mentor" families must be established.

Eighth, No door-to-door da'wah or street corner shouting will be allowed. We are not Jehovah's Witnesses nor do we want to be stigmatized as similar to them.

Ninth, all the latest techniques for mass-da'wah efforts must be studied and tested. Everything from mass-mailing, TV advertising, telethons, self-improvement seminar-type activities, videos, home-study courses, gimmicks, sloganeering, etc.. must be looked at in a specially created da'wah institute which will be established to facilitate the National Standards in Da'wah effort.

Finally, every Muslim and convert will be encouraged to move to areas where the majority of the population are Muslims. Islamic education programs for converts and youth must be established that are fun and interesting, and the community must make every effort to find the convert a job, if they need one, a good husband or wife, if they're single, and a recognized place in the life of the community.

There, I've done it. National Standards have been enumerated. Now if you don't wake up and take a good look at how you're spreading Islam (or trying to) then you'll still find a new convert as an unusual, special thing to be admired and praised. I would rather find converts as common as water, myself.

Posted by: Mentat at November 7, 2006 1:26 PM

Ahmed Bedier, Jihad Watch will be Islam bad dream. Quit from Islam right now.

Posted by: Mohammed_Pedophiles_Club at November 7, 2006 1:42 PM

HOW TO FORTIFY THE ISLAMIC CANCER
from post above

1) Build the ghetto

"Finally, every Muslim and convert will be encouraged to move to areas where the majority of the population are Muslims."

2) Taqiya (esp. re: the rights of women in Islam)

"...women will be allowed to address non-Muslim and Muslim audiences on any of the above approved topics with the addition of the role and rights of women in Islam. (Men will not be allowed to speak at length about this topic but can mention it. You figure out why.)

3)Fan the Arab superiority complex

"Islamic teachings beat Christian hodge-podge doctrines any day of the week. You and I know this. Hinduism, Bahaiism, Buddhism and the new age movement have nothing on us."

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 7, 2006 1:45 PM

Bobby, the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society.

Apparently Bedier is, himself, an avid reader. Welcome, Ahmed, to our humble company. Remember, the scum may float to the top, but so does the cream. Presumably you include yourself in this characterization.

You'll have to take my word on the following, Ahmed; I generally put no stock in such things and rather detest credential-flashing, but you appear to have an interest in the "social status" of Bobby's readers.

I am a tenured professor at a major university, with PhD and am internationally known for my research (in a field other than Islamic studies). I and my family are quite active in the community. A man of faith myself, I believe most people would say I lead a temperate life and that I treat people of all backgrounds equitably. I interact daily with Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and and other faith groups, and do not behave partially towards any group, as is appropriate in my profession. I have many colleagues who are muslims, most of whom I respect for their character and life, and some of whom I love dearly. Among my friends and associates outside my worklife are many middle-easterners, many of who are muslims. I put in time to learn about their culture, faith and philosophy.

I read the Qur'an, because I believe that it is an essential component to understanding my friends, and also the islamists in our society who strategically style themselves as friendly to westerners, and to discern the difference between the two. To any reasonably educated person who has taken the time to study these things, by the way, the difference is pretty clear.

I believe I am a typical reader of Spencer (though it is such a large group it is easy to find idiots of all stripes in the crowd, if that is what you choose to focus on). You may think me a bottom-feeder in society. Maybe you have difficulty actually answering intelligent commentary on your activities and ideology, and are thus reduced to insults and blind abuse. But surely you know that tossing around muck like this just ensures your own place in the lower strata; certain kinds of insults are just boomerangs...

I am deeply concerned about the issues Mr Spencer discusses, and impressed with his level of scholarship. You (here I refer to you individually, and also to CAIR collectively) would do well do publicly address many of these issues yourselves, if you are as concerned about educating the west about Islam as you make yourselves out to be.

For instance, the whole affair with Sheik Taj El-Din Al-Hilaly has been of great concern to those watching the Islamist movement in the west. The response of the various Islamic organizations in Australia and New Zealand around this issue has many people asking serious questions, and doubting the degree to which Muslim organizations can be trusted to be "clear" of islamist extremism.

One would expect CAIR to issue action alerts and news releases about this issue. At minimum, it should be discussed to the extent that your muslim clientele know how to answer when asked about it.

But, alas, as of yesterday, CAIR still apparently has nothing to say on the issue! I exhaustively scoured your web site, and the sites of ALL the various CAIR chapters, and the search term "Hilaly" does not appear ANYWHERE on any CAIR site. Apparently this "Grand Mufti" is off your radar. Bit of a problem deciding what position to take on the issue, Mr Bedier? I'll suggest you decide soon -- the issue is already a bit cold, and in the meantime there are other loose cannons causing havoc, and your political spin is needed elsewhere. Don't "muff" this one, Ahmed.

Oh, and for the record: I'm with Robert's initial reaction: I doubt the poster in question was Mr. Bedier; I would expect something a bit more articulate from him, and I think I detect a whiff of alcohol on this guy's breath -- I don't believe Bedier is a drinker. If it came from his computer account it was a crony who decided to commit a little e-jihad (new term) of his own in the name of Ahmed. Either way, I am happy for the opportunity to address Mr. Bedier on these points, even if this happened to be his dog writing on his behalf.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 7, 2006 1:47 PM

A lot of Arabs had to DIE by the sword in Saudi Arabia for Islam to be the dominate pagan faith of the region.

Thank should make today's Arab proud!!!

Posted by: Levi at November 7, 2006 1:51 PM

Archimedes,

You're a professor and have read the Quran and you still have yet to discern that Islam itself is radical? ;)

What part of "radical muslim" is not redundant for you?

Posted by: Levi at November 7, 2006 1:56 PM

Ynkedoodl2
You must be kidding. Am I not getting you sarcasm? What do we have in common except for the fact that we look similar? Yes, we have evolved and they haven’t. True, they are inbred and we are not. Affirmative, they want us dead and we, until recently, didn’t care.

Spence/Bobby, how arrogant, how jihazi!

Posted by: tgusa at November 7, 2006 2:00 PM

Ahmed -- do you own a mirror?

If we're all the "lowest segment of society" because we read/post on Jihad Watch -- then what does that make you? You read JW. You post on JW. Double-standard got your tongue?

Posted by: champ at November 7, 2006 2:06 PM

Robert,

I'm a police officer in Colorado and read your web site on a daily basis. It provides valuable information on the war on terror, which I consider a top priority for law enforcement officers today. One thing your web site does not provide is hate speech.

I must admit I've never thought of myself as the lowest segment of society. I think you will agree. Time to get ready for work. I love protecting this great nation of ours.

Keep up the great work!!

Posted by: Code4Code6 at November 7, 2006 3:00 PM

This has got to be one of the largest 'handfuls' of Lowest Segment nobodies on the continent. I got eye strain and a nosebleed just getting to the end of the comment list.

I've always wanted to be a member of an exclusive club. How about a charter membership? Start a chapter in your neighborhood. LSS United?

Mssr. Ahmed Bedier? 'Non Gratum Anus Rodentum'

Mr. Spencer, my copy of 'The Politically Incorrect Guide' has the current place of honour in my bookcase.

Islam and Jihad may be spread by the sword, but Mr. Colt can slow them down.

Posted by: ThomasD at November 7, 2006 3:05 PM

Mr. Bedier shouldn't be too sure of himself.

I visit Jihad/Dhimmi Watch several times a day.

Every time I find an interesting topic, I email it to my brother in New Zealand and to around a dozen of my associates. They spread it around as well. Each forward has specific instructions to spread the word around - the more people who learn about the menace of Islam, the better it is for the world.

My brother forwards the email to a talk show host in NZ who very often brings up the discussion on the air.

So the reach of this site is far and wide.

Much to the contrary of what poor little bedier would like to believe.

Posted by: Sanwin at November 7, 2006 3:13 PM

Archimedes wrote:

"I doubt the poster in question was Mr. Bedier; I would expect something a bit more articulate from him..."

Doubt it not, Archimedes -- here's Ahmed Bedier posting on his own blog in reply to a reader's comment:

"[…]What have you done, but run your mouth, how are you helping bring people together. You and your buddies are only spewing hatred. Your comments are only one sided hate speech[…]"

Posted by Ahmed Bedier | 10/21/2006 1:35 AM

...same condescending venom, same emphasis on hatred and hate speech, same half-baked, lowest-segment grammar. The DNA matches.

Book 'im, Dano.

Posted by: Zeno at November 7, 2006 3:51 PM

Sanwin- Mr Ahmed doesn't understand the power of multiplication- many people send out these articles & their friends send them out too- so the influence isn't just 33,000+ per day here, but many times that amount by our sending out the articles to friends- Ahmed's petty accusations were simply a blatant lie- either that or ignorance. Both of which never stop haters from launching attacks.

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Posted by: CottShop at November 7, 2006 4:05 PM

Mr Bedier,

We are here and we love freedom!

England.

Posted by: MrTommyAtkins at November 7, 2006 4:11 PM

As for being "the lowest segment of our society"

I don't want to blow my own trumpet but my IQ is also in the genius figures.
I'm a musician so I suppose that's just too "haram" for our "betsy" and his cronies.

During my chequered career i've worked and rubbed shoulders with some of the great and good and we wont be intimidated by religious bigots.
It's a classic case of projection to call Robert or anyone on this site a bigot when we all know that islam is in it's self inherently bigotted to everything.

Robert has always been the epitome of reason and restraint in all his writings and dialogues and bigotry is an accusation that can never be directed towards him.

I'm also a biker and know many "hells angels" one of whom is the best mechanic you'll ever come across and has no pregudice towards anything apart from an underlying prediliction for Harleys which I dont share.
Japanese muscle bikes are personal favourites.

Are bikes "haram"..

Alan ackbar needs to ride a few miles and chill out a bit.

Posted by: ovinesongs at November 7, 2006 4:44 PM

Bobby, the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society.

What despicable attitude to take, but then, to a Muslim, all Infidels are 'lowest segments of society'. In fact much worse, Infidels are outside society itself.

And if he genuinely believes that no one cares about JW/DW, no one listens to Robert Spencer or reads his books, how come Bedier is here? His very presence betrays his fear - a fear any Muslim supremacist must feel, when the truth of Mohammed starts to come out.

Let me remind Bedier that truth will out, and regardless of the popularity of Robert Spencer, his site or his books, truth will eventually triumph over the pack of lies and Taqqiya that is Islam.

PS:

Ahmed Bedier: Do take up the challenge that Roberet Spencer has thrown down or the challenge by Ali Sena to any Muslim.

Put up or shut up.

Posted by: DP111 at November 7, 2006 4:59 PM

"Ahmed Bedier: Do take up the challenge that Roberet Spencer has thrown down or the challenge by Ali Sena to any Muslim."
Posted by: DP111
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Ali Sina is the most incisive critic of Islam on this planet. He'd rip Ahmed Bedier into pieces if Ahmed Bedier accepted Ali Sina's challenge.

By the way, I never thought a blog post like this, would result in so many comments (247 and still counting).

I'm-A-Bedwetter's comment to Robert Spencer was only filled with Ad Hominem, not logic or reason. It's the same typical nonsense we hear all the time. Instead of actually responding to an argument, they attack us with name calling and personal attacks like "islamophobe," which is ad hominem, pure and simple.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 7, 2006 7:00 PM

Archimedes, You're a professor and have read the Quran and you still have yet to discern that Islam itself is radical? ;) What part of "radical muslim" is not redundant for you? Posted by: Levi

Well Levi, first of all you should read a bit more carefully. I said:

I read the Qur'an, because I believe that it is an essential component to understanding my friends, and also the islamists in our society who strategically style themselves as friendly to westerners, and to discern the difference between the two. To any reasonably educated person who has taken the time to study these things, by the way, the difference is pretty clear.

I said that the difference between a truly moderate muslim and one who merely styles himself as such is pretty clear -- not that I see a clear distinction between Islam and Islamism. If you, Levi, have more than a handful of muslim acquaintances, you should at least be able to identify a few who are quite pious in the usual sense, but clearly fall into the first category, not the second. This is what I'm talking about. If you don't know more than a few muslims you really have no authority to say things about their behavior -- what are you going on, stories you read on the internet? Many muslims have exemplary behavior, much better than the average westerner. It would be unwise, and unjust, not to acknowledge this. There are many good things in Islam. I don't have time for us-versus-them rhetoric that does not acknowledge such things. Robert Spencer acknowledges the good together with the bad; anything less would be shoddy scholarship. He doesn't waste time dwelling on these things, however, as his task is to call attention to the more sinister aspects. I would not be a regular visitor here if he proved unable to give a balanced presentation -- I'm not interested in witch hunts; I'm interested in the truth.

I do not take it upon myself to judge whether Islam itself is unredeemably radical. I have all the same questions about it that Mr Spencer raises; my reading of the Koran and Hadith literature confirms his observations that many terrorists, such as UBL himself, seem a lot more knowledgeable and "orthodox" than Mr Bedier and others who style themselves as moderate, and even more so than many truly moderate muslims.

But this is my perception as an outsider to islam. I wait, with Mr Spencer, for Islamic commentators to explain how one can draw from their source documents a worldview that is not culturally imperialistic and fatally mired in the moral climate of the dark ages. By way of comparison, while the source documents of Judaism and Christianity contain some things that would chill an outsider in the same way (lesser in degree, to be sure, but of a similar type) -- there is a well-established literature faithful to these sources which develop a world view consistent with the most praiseworthy western values. One needn't go farther than the neighborhood synagogue or church to find it articulated, preached and lived out.

It is not for an outsider to dictate how the adherents of a religion derive their daily bread from their axiomatic texts, or exactly what that daily bread looks like. Perhaps the reason we're having such a problem with Islamists is that their most celebrated thinkers and spokespeople only know how to derive radical Islamist theology from their source documents. Whether anything else can be done with them remains, for the present, in the realm of conjecture.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 7, 2006 7:22 PM

Another lowlife signing in; go jihadwatch!

Posted by: josie at November 7, 2006 7:25 PM

We are the "lowest of the low"?

How did Ahmed know that we're all used car dealers?

Or are we below used car dealers?

I'll go with that. I need a bumper sticker on my car that says "I'm A Used Car Dealer".

For the boys in Iraq, just write "I'm A Used Car Dealer" in chalk on your tank or Humvee. We back here in the States will eventually see it in some pictures that get back here. The phrase does not insult Islam. Lordy, lordy, we can't have that!

Posted by: SCV at November 7, 2006 7:29 PM

Do you have the Teletubbies in the US?
Tinky-winky,Dipsy,Allah,and Poh?

Posted by: Paul at November 7, 2006 8:14 PM

Do you have the Teletubbies in the US?

Unfoutunately yes.

When did we become the lowest segment of society?

I think it was when that cold snap killed off all the hobos.

Posted by: JadeDragoness at November 7, 2006 8:28 PM

"When did we become the lowest segment of society?
I think it was when that cold snap killed off all the hobos."

JadeDragoness - Hobophobia!!!

Posted by: Josephine at November 7, 2006 10:16 PM

Mr. Bedier:

Many highly educated people (real education, not graduates of some madrasa) visit and read this site. Mr. Spencer's books, this site, and its many posters have educated me on Islam and spurred me to pursue further research on my own. The only "desperat[ion]" I feel comes from seeing so many people willing to be dhimmis without even putting up a fight.

Mr. Bedier, please take your bigotry, filth, and lies somewhere else.

Posted by: Bad_Attitude_Infidel at November 7, 2006 10:37 PM

Wow, the comments are now well over 250 and climbing. I am impressed that so many of this exclusive club have academic qualifications. I am also impressed that we have people who are professors within the university system.

If the writer was Bedier, then he has injured his own cause with his outburst. I hope that more readers will join in and respond to this silly Bedier.

Posted by: Maggie4Life at November 7, 2006 11:05 PM

Oh, boo hoo hoo! CAIR claims Jihad Watch is going under!

Hmmm. I am somebody and I read Jihad Watch!

Therefore, Bedier is a liar. Just like the Kuran instructs him to be.

Posted by: pythagoras at November 7, 2006 11:40 PM

HEY CAIR

CARE..NO PUN INTENDED....TO COMMENT ON THIS LITTLE STORY COMING OUT OF PAKISTAN?

http://baseelia.bravejournal.com/entry/17924

WE'LL BE WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH FOR CAIR TO CONDEMN THESE ACTS AND EXPLAIN TO US HOW THEY ARE TRYING TO PREVENT THEM IOR CHANGE THEIR MOSLEM BROTHERS.

HA HA LOL....I KNOW I'LL BE WAITING WITH MY BREATH HELD FOREVER..THOSE BASTARDS.

Posted by: infidel13 at November 8, 2006 12:43 AM

I'm afraid I don't have a PhD but I do have several degrees, including a Masters degree, and I was a public school teacher for eighteen years. I then taught at an upscale private academy for jaded rich kids, quite an experience indeed, and one which required impeccable credentials and a background check that would put the F.B.I. to shame. I learned some things about myself when I read it, like my paternal grandmother was born in Lithuania. I always thought she was Polish like my grandfather!

For three years, three nights a week, I taught college courses at a maximum security prison, my personal contribution to society. I must say that I derived more satisfaction and sense of accomplishment teaching prison inmates than I did at either school, and I donated my time. Every summer I teach calligraphy to little children, six to ten years old, also pro bono.

So I'm very proud to be a member of the dregs of society instead of a mendacious hypocrite like Mr. Bedier. Mr. Bedier, you invaded my country uninvited; the least you could do is practice a little humility. I don't like you, your anti-American, Saudi-funded, ACLU defended hate club, and I certainly don't like your incongruous religion which is incompatible with America. But I don't wish you maimed, injured, bleeding, suffering, or dead; just gone. And no, I don't hate you; you aren't worth that much emotion.

Posted by: Susanp at November 8, 2006 12:56 AM

Geez, I responded to the cyber-shaheed Bedier on the old thread when I should have waited and posted it here! That's what I get for subscribing to a cheap ISP that was offline from noon yesterday til today.

After reading what my fellow low-lifers reported seeing on his site (I won't bother with reconning it myself, I have a low tolerance for mohammedan effluent), it appears I was right on the mark regarding my conjectural description of him.

Lower stratum? Hate fests? Heh heh.
If your rifle skills are on par with your debating skills Bedier, I'd advise you to stay out of the field and keep your jihading confined to your computer desk. At least when you receive return fire online, no one can see you curling up, sobbing, and wetting yourself.

Posted by: Eisenhund at November 8, 2006 2:48 AM

Amazing.....NO ONE reads Jihadwatch, huh? I've been recommending it as a intelligence tool to law enforcement for a couple of years as well as an educational tool to the disillusioned liberals I know who are beginning to smell the coffee. CAIR and its ilk resort to name-calling and intimidation because it works in their medieval tyrannical repressive mysogynistic racist society, so they figure it will work here. Listen up, CAIR--we're ALL watching you and your Islamofascist pals, and we're ALL reading Jihadwatch, and Pipes and LGF and plenty of other internet sites to keep an eye on your anti-democratic hatefilled agenda. We're watching, waiting, and locked and loaded.

Posted by: lawandorder at November 8, 2006 7:44 AM

I'm not a psychologist, but this is actually kind of funny and, perhaps says a great deal about Bedier. I mean, after all, if jihadwatch & co are of so little influence, what's Bedier himself doing, up in the middle of the night, responding to one of Robert's posts with an attack?

Clearly, he's bothered, if not, as a former associate of Sami Al-Arian among others, also engaging in some pretty classic "projecting" by describing Robert's activities as a "hatefest".

Posted by: waterdragon52 at November 8, 2006 8:43 AM

Some other Muslims who demonstrated a 'fury, contempt, intent to demean':
Three adult Muslim Pakstani men all got life sentences today in court for the murder, kidnap and torture of white school boy Kriss Donald. Kriss was burnt alive by these Muslims. Kriss, unknown to the 'cowardly and sadistic' (police words) Muslims murderers, was abducted from the street because he was white:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006520031,00.html

Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 8, 2006 9:57 AM

and 'will to hurt':
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/08/ukriss108.xml

Posted by: EnglishBlondie at November 8, 2006 10:01 AM

JadeDragoness - Hobophobia!!!
Posted by: Josephine

LOL :) That's actually a quote from the Simpsons.

Posted by: JadeDragoness at November 8, 2006 12:07 PM