Obviously the West is waiting on Israel to deal with this trashcan country. Then the West will get into its holier than thou mode and take Israel to task as always rather than thank it.

In any event, somebody had better do something about I'm A Nut Job's paradise because it is getting increasingly bolder while the West looks ever more foolish with its do nothing attitude.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 7, 2006 7:41 AM

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

BUT ISLAM IS TEH RELIGION OF PEACE™

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 7, 2006 7:54 AM

...experts say most are modifications of weapons from other countries

So, they've bought some of North Korea's cutting edge technology, then given it to the greatest technologists the Islamic Revolution has produced to 'improve'.

I'm not getting real scared.

Posted by: thomas ato at November 7, 2006 8:04 AM

We have weapons which are unknown to others. We have military weapons which we have not shown off, but we will…

I’m thinking a cruise platform from Russia. If not that, then maybe a submarine-launched sea-to-land missile, possibly a MIRV from the same supplier.

2:216 * 4:74 * 9:111 * 8:12 * 4:96 * 56:22 * 38:51 * 55:56 * 55:76 * 56:22 * 8:74 * 9:2

One hopes that the US Navy has much of its attack submarine fleet off Persia poised to sink Iran’s fleet when the time comes.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 7, 2006 8:38 AM

Interesting detailed information on Iran's weapons can be found at:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/weapons.htm

but it may be a little out of date.

A year by year, then month by month in each year, listing of reports on Iran's acquisitions (or, at any rate, statements about weapon acquisitions and abilities), with links, can be found at:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/index.html

There is a guide to Iran's special weapons at:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/index.html

A guide to Iran's missiles is at:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/missile/index.html

It all makes interesting reading. If one Googles the terms 'Iran weapons' Google will bring up many more sites with good information.

Hope this is useful.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at November 7, 2006 8:48 AM

Criminal negligence by Western laboratories that invited in A. Q. Khan, and then by Western intelligence agencies that knew Khan was doing things that were undesirable and dangerous, was the result of insufficient knowledge of, and thus alarm, about Islam. Pakistan now has nuclear weapons, again thanks to criminal negligence by the Western world, and by the United States that continued to fund the Pakistani government, and of course its army, and hence fund, indirectly, A. Q. Khan's nuclear project.

Not content with Pakistan acquiring these weapons, A. Q. Khan reached out -- to North Korea, to Iran, to Libya, and possibly -- the American government does not tell us, to Egypt which was working, it is now known, with Iraqis to develop certain weapons.

The Iranian nuclear project, some say, cannot be "destroyed." Therefore, these same some insist (and the more one looks at who these "some" are the more suspect they are -- such people as Lt. Gen. (ret'd.) William Odom, who is all for disarming Israel, forcing it to give up its nuclear weapons, which are th eony guarantee of its survival, in order, Odom unconvincingly tells us, to "get Iran to do the same" -- only the purest form of anti-Israel malevolence could conceivably lead to anyone taking that position, with whatever outward soberness and pretend-rationality such a measure is presented).

Nonsense. It can be damaged: damaged so severely, as the Iraq project was damaged so severely by the 1981 bombing of the Osirak Reactor (and then in 1991 sanctions kicked in , the happy result of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait)) that it will not successfully be re-started. Or damaged so severely, that will buy time to come up with other, better kinds of bunker-busting devices that can be used again, and again, until such time as the Islamic Republic of Iran gets the message, or is overthrown by people unwilling to sacrifice their lives for the mad pursuit of such weapons, and the new regime -- as a condition of all sorts of things -- gives up any future attempt.

The vision of the Bush Administration -- now down to a handful of True Believes in Bush -- of an Iraq that somehow -- never quite explained, is it? -- will somehow be able to overcome 1300 years of Sunni-Shi'a hostility and Arab Muslim mistreatment of non-Arab Muslims that derives naturally from Islam (a vehicle of Arab imperialism) -- Islam -- and observe "democracy" and the "rule of law" and the "guaranteed rights of minorities" and "free speech" and will in addition be a Model for all the other Arab states, which are Sunni-dominated, is breathtaking. But not in a good sense.

And this obstinate refusal either to reocgnize, or to exploit, the real fissures within Iraq that will make the stated goal impossible of attainment, and will lead only to still more squandering of men (and great damage to the army and the citizen-army, possibly not to be repaired for years, and certainly never to be forgotten or forgiven), of materiel (how many important weapons projects will be cancelled because of the need to replace tens of billions of dollars in desert-degraded equipment of all kinds?), and of course money (what might have been done with the $500 billion that the Iraq venture, in sunk and committed future expenses, costs -- what might have been done, say, if that money had all gone into energy conservation and alternative energy projects, to undercut the main weapon of Jihad, which is oil revenues?).

The madness of King George, the Captain Queeg of a listing ship of state, the S. S. Narrenschniff, the refusal in a democracy to ceasse to conduct an idiotic war that two-thirds of the country opposes -- this cannot be forgiven. And what cannot, above all, be forgiven, is the jejune manner in which this misnamed, and virtually inarticulate and certainly utterly unclever and unimiaginative "war on terror" is being fought.

And meanwhile, while American troops risk their lives to keep Sunnis from killing Shi'a in order to retain power, and Shi'a militias kill Sunnis in order to retain power, and not a single figure in Iraq with power shows any semblance of both decency and responsibility or any sense of compromise -- for in Islam there is no spirit or lesson of compromise, only the victor and the vanquished -- Iran keeps going, and going, and going.

And Busjh insists that no matter what, he will stay the course, he too will keep going, and going, and going.

One did not know that, with different motives, that this administration would end up causing as much harm, doing as little good, to the cause of Infidels as did the adminsitration of hideous Jimmy Carter (who let the Shah go, and got the Islamic Republic of Iran rolling along. But so, not out of the simpering worldview of holier-than-thou Carter, but out of misplaced and false realpolitik, this Adminisetration has proven to be.

It has failed to exploit the real advantages for Infidels in Iraq. It looks with misplaced and mistaken horror on instaibilty in Iraq, on sectaian violence that might spill over into Lebanon, Kuwait, Bahrain, eastern Saudi Arabia. Why? Perhaps because our "Arab friends" -- Egypt, Jordan, and above all Saudi Arabia, which has so many "friends" in Washington, past and present (and James Baker's name leads all the rest), tell us we can't leave, we must stay to protect the Sunnis and to bring stability. And we fall for it, just the way, nearly four years ago, we fell for the Shi'a in exile who told us how we would be greeted as "liberators" and once Iraq was liberated, everyone would be so grateful to America, and so willing to come together in a new Iraq, free of that monster Saddam Hussein (just look at how the sentence handed down on that "monster" has been received by Sunnis, and not only in Tikrit).

Government by obstinacy, ignorance, and timidity.

Posted by: Hugh at November 7, 2006 8:49 AM

One can find the EU's stance on Iran, present and past, at:

http://ec.europa.eu/comm/external_relations/iran/intro/index.htm

This makes for interesting reading, too.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at November 7, 2006 8:56 AM

The broad open highway to Tehran is perfect: just made for rolling American tanks.

Posted by: dgene at November 7, 2006 9:07 AM

Hugh, are you aware that the Iraqis sent a delegation to Northan Ireland, hoping to get some ideas on how to solve their own sectarian problems? They sound as clueless as anyone.

Posted by: savitch at November 7, 2006 9:14 AM

"We have weapons which are unknown to others".

Sorry pal, but the Mahdi doesn't count as a weapon. Besides, A-Nut has already blabbed about him so we know all too much about him.

As for martyrs being a weapon a few well placed bombs and machine guns should neutralize them quite nicely. Saddam proved that when he mowed down your martyrs like the weeds that they were.

Iran has no friends, just business partners. Even France, Russia and China probably don't like Iran and its scummy leadership. They just like sticking a finger in the eye of the US and making a pile of money.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 7, 2006 9:28 AM

duh_swami writes:

"These people are so phony, they cant trust each other. Just what nations and neighbors? I bet the Sunni's wont get any missiles, niether will the Kurds. Iran has no trustworthy neighbors, or friends."

swami:

Iran has a trustworthy friend in Hezbollah. I'm sure the Hezbaloonies already have (or will soon have)Iran's "new" missile technology. Of course, it's all for deterrence to keep the Jews from conquering Lebanon, doncha know?

OT:
Anyone see the picture of Iran's clerics watching the missile tests? A picture's worth a thousand words.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 7, 2006 9:30 AM

"Iran has a trustworthy friend in Hezbollah."

And Hezbollah is a trustworthy friend to Iran.

I am hoping someday to see Hezbollah volunteers leave Lebanon to help endangered co-religionists in Iraq, answering a call from somewhere -- from perhaps Moqtada al-Sadr, or the Hidden Imam, or Ahmadinejad, or someone. And so, no doubt, are many Lebanese, from Maronite Bishop Nasrallah Sfeir to Druse leader Kamal Jumblatt.

Posted by: Hugh at November 7, 2006 10:21 AM

Thank god for the Israelis I only hope they have the backbone and foresight to bomb Iran`s nuclear facilities into the stoneage , and soon as it is so obvious that the West will do NOTHING - cowards and idiots one and all!

Posted by: johnmac at November 7, 2006 10:28 AM

I hope that Israel is willing to share it's warheads with iran and all of iran's "friends and neighbors".

Posted by: Infidel33 at November 7, 2006 10:34 AM

We’re got two choices in today’s election; one party wants to appease the Muslim threat, the other wants to lead it to freedom. Both embrace the 150 new daily arrivals.

I for one welcome emboldened Muslim militancy, it will shape 2008 politics. And if Iran wants to play ball in the arena of shiny metal things, all the better.

Posted by: limes at November 7, 2006 10:37 AM

Some interesting things are coming to light about the Clinton Administration, China and Neutron Bombs the size of large Grapefruits. These are light enough and small enough to be carried in Suitcases and large backpacks....
Another reason Sandy Berger may have chanced stealing and destroying various documents from the US National archives.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/08/berger.sentenced/

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/shadowlands/6583/project024.html

China has the above technology and has tested it.

What do you think other countries would pay for this technology and how easy it would be to smuggle them in and use them?

Posted by: Islame at November 7, 2006 10:46 AM

By all means, share you weapons.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at November 7, 2006 10:51 AM

iran is really getting dangerous. we need to act soon. WND reports isreal expects war in 10 months with them via hezbolla. we nee dto take them out. Hugo chavez will probably be a big buyer of iran weapons.

yes the researchers are crimminal in allowing pakistan to get nuke knowledge. it wa in 1986 that my professor at San jose Stae univ (california) used to travel to pakistan all the time to do work on nuclear fuel processing. No kidding, i thought how stupid we could be to allow the sharing of this info. i hated it, now we know how that knowledge was used. to think my professor was helping the islamists with thier atomic bomb. we hung ourselves with our own rope on this one. hope it is not too late to cut that rope, but I am afraid it is already too lte. at least we ought to be bombing iran until they give up nukes, what are we waitng for???

Posted by: religion of pieces at November 7, 2006 10:53 AM

at least we ought to be bombing iran until they give up nukes, what are we waitng for???

Posted by: religion of pieces at November 7, 2006 10:53 AM

Apparently, we are waiting for a major American city to be turned into a giant crater with Iran claiming full credit for it before we do something. And even then I'm not so certain something will be done.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 7, 2006 11:00 AM

I just hope after they've blown each other to smithereens, WE don't send money or go in and rebuild.

Let them suffer!

Posted by: freewoman at November 7, 2006 11:04 AM

AXIS OF EVIL ALERT

So Iran admits to receiving weapons tech from North Korea. Where are the 'experts' who called Pres. Bush a fool for labeling them an "axis of evil"? If crazy North Korea which has nuclear weapons is giving psycho Iran nuclear weapons technology, and Iran is ADMITTING it to the world, it looks like the President hit the nail on the head.

Why can't we call evil "evil"? Real men stand up against evil. Cowards look the other way.

Iran claims that their nuclear research is only for peaceful objectives. Of course, lying is not in sin in Muslim teachings, and Muhammed openly taught this. When Bin Laden said AL Queda was not responsible for the 9/11 attacks before we destroyed them, he was lying. It's ok bc he's Muslim. The Pres of Iran is also lying. It's also ok bc he's Muslim.

The longer we wait and do nothing the more time we give the AXIS OF EVIL to develop better bombs to kill the innocent. The UN is incapable of anything productive in response to evil bc like I said, real men stand up against evil, cowards look the other way, or write polite letters asking the wicked not to hurt them.

Posted by: Tookson at November 7, 2006 11:14 AM

Just like hitler before WWII, He wrok a book (the nazi koran, ie mien kampf) we knew what he was upto, he gave us his intentions, we wathced him arm, (like pakistan, iran hezbola, sryia etc..) we wathed him annez nations (and actually helped him annex them (like we help the palistaineins)

there is such a parrallel to the build up to WWII it is scary. these slime have or will have nukes!!! lots of Americans will die before we wake up.

hindsight can be perfect. if only we stopped hilter before he took Poland.

History 60 yrs. from now will beg the question, why did they not stop the muslims before America got nuked???

I just hope there are good folks left after this war to write history. Nuclear fall out is a bad deal. our economy will grind to a halt when oil is turned off from the arabs. china and russia may jump in on this, on the muslim side (recall russia siding with hitler?) the commies still see America as a threat. the fall of the soviet union was fake, a decietful fake, the commies / dictators are still in power over their, they are supporting both n. korea's, and iran's nuke programs, they are not our friends. we are in for some big trouble, it is more than the axis of evil, it extends to the commie states (or "former" commie states) that are using the axis of evil states to fight a proxy war with us.

we are in for a blood bath. (unless we take massive preemptive action.)

I hope the voters today understand this, adn vote in right wing hawks that understand the threat, and have the nuts to do something about it.

Posted by: religion of pieces at November 7, 2006 11:48 AM

Why can't we call evil "evil"?

Cuz harsh words like that do not resonate well on the television.

* 2:216 * 4:74 * 9:111 * 8:12 * 4:96 * 56:22 * 38:51 * 55:56 * 55:76 * 56:22 * 8:74 * 9:2 *

The medium is the message, not the message's content. Cf., Marshall McLuhan.

610 * 623 * 732 * 1066 * 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001

The medium is the message, not the content of the message. Cf., Marshall McLuhan.

In addition to describing resonance in media-borne pop culture, McLuhan also explored the idea of “extensions.” An extension of man would be, for example, the invention of the bow and arrow. Archery extended man’s lethal reach, and greatly aided him not only in hunting but also in warfare.

The flip side of extension is amputation. To stick with the bow and arrow example, when archery extended man’s reach, his skills for hunting by hand withered. In other words, the extension in a field of endeavor at the same time amputated other skills in that endeavor.

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So, to answer your question, Tookson, we can’t call evil evil cuz it would be impolite, and bad press would ensue.

Ever wonder how one unbelievable Moslem story after another, true storis, are posted here in Jihadwatch? How surreal its seems that the stead drum beat of one Moslem outrage after another can be real, and are in fact real?

The answer is that, when mankind extended itself into the Global Village, its capacity for critical thinking deteriorated, and stopped altogether in many cases. To wit:

Islam is a certified religion. Religion is a very sensitive subject. Moslems are very, very, very sensitive religiosos (or pseudo-religiosos, at least). The medium is the MSM, the academy, Western legal sytsems, and Hollywood. The message is absurd, and extremely dangerous, but is obsequiously accepted by most everybody for fear of offending someone and falling into disrepute.

Thus the Islam Fictive Reality was born. And CAIR fully understands what tremendous leverage and air cover and opportunity it affords their world takeover cult.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 7, 2006 12:51 PM

It is way past time that the United States detonated electromagnetic weapons over the Islamic nations (especially Iran).

And we better hurry. These creeps will attack us with thermonuclear-equipped missiles, there's no question. 9-11 was but a curtain raiser.

And there's no time to diddle over it. It's on its way unless we take action to stop it FAST!

Everybody contact your government reps while you are still alive to do it.

Posted by: pythagoras at November 7, 2006 2:29 PM

one of the islammist stongest weapons is our left wing news media just as the veit cong and ho che min
used the news midia to defeat us we need to remember that islamist like cair and there ilke are experts at lieing and useingcair no muslim group in the usa has ever renounced jihad they are encouraged to use Taqiyya which means deception in Arabic is the cornerstone of Muslim relations with Kafirs (non-Muslims). Muslims are encouraged to deceive Kafirs all along. The technique Taqiyya was consistently used in warfare by Muslims and it was this which gave them victory over non-Muslims in addition to their schizophrenic savagery
below is a reply i just recived Abeer Alsobahi at the saudi embasy in dc
hank you for your email.
my question was how did muhamad make his night flight to the Aqsa mosque.when it did not exzist
his reply to my email looks to me like a aplication of taqiyya

Please find the information below about the history of the Aqsa mosque.

The patriarch of all the believers of Allah (God), i.e. Jews, Christians, and Muslims is Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham, PBUH). He built the Kaba in Makkah with his firstborn son Ismael (PBUH). This was an order from Allah (SWT) that Ibrahim and Ismael (PBUT) construct this Holy House of Allah (SWT) as a place of worship for all the believers on earth. Ismael (PBUH) was 17 at the time he and his father built the Kaba. Prophet Muhammad (PB UH), a descendent of the Prophet Ismael (PBUH), would come nearly 2,500 years after Kaba was built and repurify it as a holy place of worship according to the teachings of the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH). As stated in the Torah and in the Holy Quran "all the generations will be blessed through I brahim (PBUH)" (Genesis 12 and 18 Holy Bible, Chp 2 Verses 123-141 Holy Quran).

In Jerusalem, Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) also established a place of worship. This place would later be known as The House Of Allah (God), or Beteyel. Forty years after the construction of Kaba, Prophet Ibrahim expanded this place of worship. Isaac (PBUH), Prophet Ibrahim's younger son, worshipped in Beteyel, but also made journeys to Kaba in Makkah for Hajj (Pilgrimage) as did Ibrahim (PBUH). Jacob (PBUH) the second son of Isaac (PBUH), extended Beteyel as a place of worship for all the believers of Allah (God) in the region. The natives of the land, the Palestinians, believers in the teachings of the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH), also worshipped in Beteyel or The House Of Allah (God). Ibrahim (PBUH), referred to Beteyel as "Masjid Al-Aqsa", which means the farthest place of worship of the One God. Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH), was stating that Masjid Al-Aqsa was the farthest place of worship west of Kaba in Makkah.

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 7, 2006 2:46 PM

Just what nations and neighbors? I bet the Sunni's wont get any missiles, niether will the Kurds. Iran has no trustworthy neighbors, or friends.

Posted by: duh_swami at November 7, 2006 08:48 AM

Iran has a trustworthy friend in Hezbollah.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 7, 2006 09:30 AM

Swami & Ynkedoodl12:

What about, er, Iran's friends in Damascus?

I am hoping someday to see Hezbollah volunteers leave Lebanon to help endangered co-religionists in Iraq, answering a call from somewhere -- from perhaps Moqtada al-Sadr, or the Hidden Imam, or Ahmadinejad, or someone.
Posted by: Hugh at November 7, 2006 10:21 AM

Hugh: Although the MSM will never carry news of this it's already been reported, particularly by Bill Rogio and picked up in frontpagemag's Warblog section that some of the jihaddists captured in Afghanistan are Shiite Iranians and that Iranian Revolutionary Guards are also providing the same kind of "suppport" to the Mahdi Army in Iraq that they have been to Hezbollah in southern Lebanon -- training, logistics and weaponry.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at November 8, 2006 8:35 AM