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D. C. Watson responds to Ahmed Bedier.
This column is in response to an article posted on Jihad Watch one day ago, entitled “CAIR's Ahmed Bedier stops by Jihad Watch to tell me no one is reading Jihad Watch.”Mr. Bedier and his colleagues at the Council on American Islamic Relations should consider this piece yet another invitation to stop their continual bellyaching, badgering, and race-baiting, and finally step onto a national stage to explain their organization’s activities.
The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has done as much, if not more, than anyone else to impede the integration of Muslims into American culture. Its officials also appear to be far more comfortable harrassing Americans who have voiced their opinions of Islam in public than they are in going face to face in a debate with anti-jihadists.
Another CAIR official, Hussam Ayloush, on his own website, recently went on a name calling campaign against Andrew Whitehead of Anti-CAIR, also using the term “bigot,” just as Bedier used in his e-mail to Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch. After suffering a humiliating defeat in the legal arena courtesy of Andrew Whitehead and Anti-CAIR, you‘d think that CAIR employees would try to be somewhat less arrogant.On to Mr. Bedier’s e-mail and commentary:
1) Bedier: “Spence: Maybe you should consider taking your hate-fest workshops on the road and train bigots how to restrain their hatred so not to expose themselves.”
Watson: Mr. Bedier should put up or shut up. If he has any evidence that Robert Spencer or any Jihad Watch staff member participate in or host “hate-fests”, then he should have no trouble presenting it.
2) Bedier: “Bobby, the reality is NO ONE cares about your views and the handful of visitors that read the hate speech that you spew are the lowest segment of our society.”
Watson: You know, Bedier, that really hurts. The lowest segment of our society? Are the tens of thousands of Americans and Westerners that visit the Jihad Watch site on a daily basis even lower than your pal Sami Al-Arian? Are they even lower than the Islamic terror networks, radical Muslims, and even Imams who have been arrested and convicted on terror and fraud related crimes, including former CAIR officers Randall Todd “Ismail” Royer, Bassem Khafagi, and Ghassan Elashi?
3) Bedier: “The majority of Americans do not respect bigots like yourself that spread hate daily.”
“It's entertaining watching you and your ineffective friends get desperate.”
“Remember to restrain yourself.”
Watson: Mr. Bedier shouldn‘t flatter himself into believing that he or any other CAIR employee has the capacity or the authorization to speak for the American people, especially when survey statistics have shown that regard for Islam in this country is on a steep downward slope. And, with CAIR officials stating that the Qur’an should be the highest authority in America, and that they would like to see an Islamic government in the United States, is it any wonder why?
Pew poll 7/14/2005:
'Concerned about Islamic Extremism in your country' 1
India 84%
Russia 84%
Germany 78%
Spain 77%
Netherlands 76%
France 73%
United States 70%
Great Britain 70%
Canada 56%Washington Post 3/9/2006: "Negative Perception of Islam Increasing-Poll Numbers in U.S. Higher Than in 2001"
Favorable Opinion of Islam 43%
Unfavorable Opinion of Islam 46%
No Opinion 11%CBS News 4/12/2006: "Poll: Sinking Perceptions Of Islam"
What is your impression of Islam?
Favorable 19%
Unfavorable 45%Just a couple more things……By the appearance of Bedier’s e-mail content, it would appear that he is not entertained by Jihad Watch, and that perhaps the desperation is on his end. Oh, and about anyone at Jihad Watch restraining themselves……Free speech is the defining right of all Americans.
The staff at Jihad Watch has done a remarkable job of presenting the facts, even though these facts hurt organizations like the Council on American Islamic Relations, which attempts to portray Islam as benign and tolerant, and resorts to name calling and filing lawsuits against those who confront and expose CAIR for what it really is.
Personally, they remind me of the loudmouth at the pub who agitates and provokes everyone until someone cleans their clock…….The same loudmouth who picks himself up off the barroom floor and goes to the payphone to call the police so he can try to press charges.
Perhaps Mr. Bedier and his buddies at CAIR should practice what they preach, and have a go at restraining themselves…After all, the United States is not, nor has it ever been an Islamic theocracy, no matter how badly the Council on American Islamic Relations fanatics would like it to be.
You see, in America, we live by the United States Constitution, which is the law of the land. The Qur’an does not override this. In America, we are all equal in the eyes of the law. Islam doesn’t offer that, it never has. And, until militant organizations like CAIR are shut down, until radical Islamic Imams are expelled, and until Islam undergoes reform, it never will.
In conclusion, here is a comparison of the site traffic rankings of JihadWatch.org and CAIR.com from Alexa’s web rankings:
Jihad Watch Rank: 20,713
CAIR Rank: 312,945A handful of visitors, eh?
References:
CAIR quotes:
CAIRing for Sami Al-Arian
Joe Kaufman“CAIR's Ahmed Bedier stops by Jihad Watch to tell me no one is reading Jihad Watch.”
Elashi convicted
CAIR leader convicted on terror charges
Founding board member of Texas chapter funded Hamas
WNDKhafagi convicted: A Bad Day for CAIR
FPMPolls on Islam in America
PEWglobal.org
July 14, 2005"Negative Perception Of Islam Increasing-Poll Numbers in U.S. Higher Than in 2001"
March 9, 2006
Washington Post
CBS: Poll: Sinking Perceptions Of Islam
April 12, 2006
Posted by Robert at November 7, 2006 10:18 AM
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J/W and staff,
You are getting an awful lot of attention these days. So Western people aren’t as stupid as I have been led to believe? It appears that a lot more are watching the goings on at JW than some think.
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at November 7, 2006 11:44 AM
Take that Thuggie Pooper!
Posted by: Infidel_Dog at November 7, 2006 11:52 AM
To CAIR
Ref: Jihad watch & commentary from DC Watson.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: km at November 7, 2006 11:55 AM
As an Evangelical Christian I am used to being considered, "no one." Keep on persevering in the faith. I read jihad watch daily.
Alethia (Truth)
at November 7, 2006 12:01 PM
Bravo Mr. Watson! All I can say is ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS!!! Very well said indeed! There is no possible way the facts stated can be refuted.
Posted by: Bonniea at November 7, 2006 12:08 PM
Jihad Watch Rank: 20,713
CAIR Rank: 312,945
Well, there it is in black and white. Nobody cares to view CAIR's website. I wonder why?
This also explains the incessant whining and screeching-CAIR craves attention so it HAS to resort to all kinds of foolishness rather than rely on facts and logic.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 7, 2006 12:22 PM
"Well, there it is in black and white. Nobody cares to view CAIR's website. I wonder why?"
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
Could it be because CAIR's website is boring, lame and false propaganda? I think so.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 7, 2006 12:28 PM
Thanks for jumping in, Mr. Watson! The water's warm and getting a lot warmer.
When I studied for a graduate degree in Political Science at a major University many years ago, my area of specialty was totalitarian political ideologies. Even though Exhibit A at that time was Marxism/Leninism/Stalinism, the analytical techniques I learned then have been most relevant and useful in understanding the totalitarian political ideology called Islam.
I am sure that even Mr. Bedier knows that the "lowest segment" of a structure is the load-bearing foundation, which rests on the ground. It is "well grounded." This pretty well describes the thousands (if not millons) of readers of Mr. Spencer's books & blogs -- they are "well grounded" in the truth about Islam. I am proud to be counted in this load-bearing "lowest segment" which is expanding exponentially every day.
Perhaps Mr. Bedier should watch his back, because his masters at (and above) CAIR Headquarters may mistake his mere stupidity for evidence of his being an "agent provocateur" on the secret payroll of the Kuffirs for the purpose of drumming up anti-Islamic sentiment.
at November 7, 2006 12:31 PM
See my comments on Bedier's comments at my blog:
My Comments on Bedier's Comments at JW
at November 7, 2006 12:37 PM
Cair is hindering the spread of islam, they are Apostates of islam, spread the word.
Posted by: Infidel_Dog at November 7, 2006 12:39 PM
RS, D.C.,
Get us a
CAIR Critters say:
"Lowest Segment of Society" T shirt.
I would buy one.
at November 7, 2006 12:52 PM
The only good thing about CAIR existing, is that it gives the US a clearer target for surveillance.
Posted by: Ezra Skye at November 7, 2006 12:56 PM
Jihad Watch Rank: 20,713
CAIR Rank: 312,945
and so we don't forget "No one cares":
Western Resistance rank: 235,625
thereligionofpeace.com rank: 175,148
Apostates of Islam rank: 118,989
Answering Islam rank: 61,013
MEMRI TV rank: 48,050
Daniel Pipes rank: 30,285
Faith Freedom rank: 26,282
Front Page Magazine rank: 16,548
Little Green Footballs rank: 6,236
Al Qaeda's non-caring about "Spence" is SO GREAT that they produced a fairly decent quality video about it, with a Zawahiri cameo, subtitled in Arabic (probably not for "Bobby's" benefit) and distributed around the world on Al-Jazeera and the internet.
Posted by: Jan III Sobieski at November 7, 2006 1:05 PM
those who
visit the Jihad Watch site on a daily basis even lower than your pal Sami Al-Arian? Are they even lower than the Islamic terror networks, radical Muslims, and even Imams who have been arrested and convicted on terror and fraud related crimes, including former CAIR officers Randall Todd “Ismail” Royer, Bassem Khafagi, and Ghassan Elashi?
hmm last time i checked the only misdemeaner i had was a old log book violation though my quaker wife does have one for crimnal tresspass resulting from protest against nukes over 25 years back some record
can the suporters of cair that are still crying unfair and islamaphobic over the convitions of cair officers and the goverments shutting down the terrorist front the holly land foundation i wounder if cair itself could undergo a anti terorist check and still be able to be listed as a civil rights group instead of the terrorist front they are
at November 7, 2006 1:09 PM
OT,
No one wants to report this but in supposedly liberal Ca. Arnold(middle of the road) will destroy Phil(LLL) my prediction, Arnold=58% Phil=31%. BTW, 45% of Ca’s vote absentee, in order to properly scrutinize the ballot.
at November 7, 2006 1:10 PM
I'm also trying to remember the name of Ahmed Bedier's New York Times best sellers. Can anyone help me? I know Robert's best sellers, but I just can seem to recall the titles of Bedier's New York Times best-selling books.
Posted by: Jan III Sobieski at November 7, 2006 1:12 PM
D.C. Watson:
Well done as usual. Your insights and unique style of making CAIR look stupid is a true treasure. Your book certainly proves that! I hope that Ahmed Bedier reads your essay, But don’t expect a reply. Although if he does read it, watch out for poop being flung at you.
at November 7, 2006 1:26 PM
CAIR deceitfully refers to the murderous behavior of terrorists, like the thankfully departed Abu Musab al Zarqawi, as un-Islamic.
And eager, uninformed audiences lap it up at CAIR's numerous taqiyya-fest workshops.
Of course, CAIR does not cite which Islamic teachings and law their Muslim brethren have violated on the road to un-Islamic status.
Instead, they tell the sheep in attendance that CAIR views Islam's more troublesome aspects in an historical context (appropriate to the time and place in which they were written, but not appropriate for modern times).
So, what is it that UBL doesn't understand? No amputations? Yo, UBL! You really need to check the CAIR website more often. They're the authority, you know.
In truth, the big dogs at CAIR would gladly implement sharia law in America.
Those who took the time to read the 'Gwinette Daily Post' article that drove the following recent JW article, may recall who some of the panel members were:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/013050.php
" Finally, in the interest of continuing this dialogue, they asked me to refer you to their Web site (www.cair.com) and to contact the Islamic Speakers Bureau (www.isbatlanta.org) if your church or synagogue would like to have someone come speak on Islam."
Sure.
Posted by: PRCS at November 7, 2006 1:51 PM
Mr. Watson, SLAM DUNK!!!
Posted by: Matt at November 7, 2006 2:22 PM
I'll go D.C. Watson one better:
CAIR is just plain evil.
CAIR's members are just plain ol' terrorists (and propagandists) alternately known as "wolves in sheeps' clothing."
And Islam itself is institutionalized murder misleadingly referred to as a 'religion'.
Someone should inform CAIR our land will remain our land and WILL NEVER be Al-lah's America!!!
(Unlike western Europe).
Posted by: pythagoras at November 7, 2006 2:25 PM
My sentiments, exactly!
Posted by: urbanIIredux:
"Perhaps Mr. Bedier should watch his back, because his masters at (and above) CAIR Headquarters may mistake his mere stupidity for evidence of his being an 'agent provocateur' on the secret payroll of the Kuffirs for the purpose of drumming up anti-Islamic sentiment."
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 7, 2006 2:39 PM
Mr. Bedier really means that any criticism of his belief-system is bigotry. His distorted view of reality is rooted in a perception that makes him view his dogma-belief-system as if it is an objective fact and not a belief. (Mr. Bedier: many people consider your belief-system bizarre and are not required to respect you or your belief.) Since he cannot respond intellectually to facts in reality he flees to his belief-system's supremacism and sees his belief-system's critics of being low-life and of facts being hate.
I really am coming to the conclusion that this belief-system is a mental illness. There is no other explanation for why people such as Bedier do not respond to facts but treat their belief-system as objective-fact, as if it is equal to a math formula such as 1 + 1 = 2. (Mr. Bedier-deal with the facts logically and stop the bullshit.)
at November 7, 2006 3:09 PM
Congratulations to D.C. Watson, an obvious reasonable man who has academic qualifications. The article was well thought out and I thought is an excellent response to the petulant Mr. Bedier.
The facts about CAIR speak for themselves. Mr. Bedier is a troublemaker, and he is obviously not happy that people are waking up to the Truth about Islam.
To Mr. Spencer: Keep up the good work.
BTW I am going out on a limb to state that even if I do not agree with the meathead sheik, I do think that he is a lot more honest about his thoughts than Mr. Bedier. You might be interested to know that I heard a report this morning that he stated that wearing the burqa and the veil is not necessary, and that he does not personally like that form of dress. He seems to favour the hijab, and the chador. He has been more open in his statements about Lebaonon etc. I do not agree with him, but it is better than hiding behind a front like CAIR. I see Keyser Trad in a very different light, since he is full of Taqquia
Posted by: Maggie4Life at November 7, 2006 4:08 PM
when I see Ibraham Hooper on the news, I view it with mixed feelings. On one hand, I dislke seeing CAIR being given the apparent credibility which comes with the TV appearance.
On the other hand, Hooper comes across so poorly that I think no reasonable person could ever think this guy is credible.
CAIR's job seems to be as a victim-whiner. We already have enough of those in America.
Posted by: Conservatarian at November 7, 2006 4:27 PM
Infidel Dog: Cair is hindering the spread of islam, they are Apostates of islam, spread the word.
Good one!
Posted by: Brett_McS at November 7, 2006 4:50 PM
urbanIIredux, re your analysis of totalitarian systems and islam, have you written an online essay for us to enjoy? How about one for Jihadwatch?
Posted by: Lili at November 7, 2006 5:03 PM
OT,
Just plain good for Americans and the Western world update, high turnout at the polls. I can verify that, I estimate, 10 times the usual number of voters compared to 2000/2002/2004.
Americans are hindering the spread of this evil ideology as we speak!
at November 7, 2006 5:33 PM
I too would like to close CAIR. I believe that they do serve a useful purpose however. With all of their bull$hit in representing Islam, they are good targets to hold up to the American people. They also impede the spread of ISLAM. This is due in part to CAIR and their appearance.
CAIR is hanging themselves with their own rope. The guys at CAIR would never relinquish their position with Muslims. They are "supremacist seditionists." They are too "pig headed" to do that. Thus they become the "whipping boy" for everyone that has an "axe to grind" with Islam.
I have included the "cliches" because I am a "member of the lowest segment of society." I also vote! Our family is very politically active!
Where's the "lowest segment of society" Tee shirts Robert? I think it's a good fund raiser for Jihad Watch.
at November 7, 2006 5:34 PM
Voila!!! That should shut his islamoyap. An by the way we as americans have a special surprise should they get out of hand.No Paris here buddy! NO ISLAM OR ISLAMO-"CYSTS" for the US. GO HOME TO BADGHAD,SAUDI,PAKI,SOMALIA,PALESTINE,OR WHEREVER T.F.
Posted by: solomonpal at November 7, 2006 7:56 PM
This web site (JW + DW), together with LGF, Prof. Pipes, Rantburg and a few others have been an invaluable source of information on the nature, characteristics, tactics, disposition and ideology of the enemy. This web site and those listed above deserve your financial support.
Before 9-11 I was blind to the existential threat of Islam (as were so many that come to this site). No more. Never again.
DC Watson speaks for many of us today. Tomorrow he'll speak for a few more of us. The day after, even more.
In these parts, the fastest growing political ideology is no longer Islam. What I see I'd call The Awakening. As The Awakening gathers steam, will more so called "moderate muslims" expose themselves to be the terrorists many of us believe them to be in the first place? Yes, I think so.
And this is good. CAIR and their ilk are too stupid to lay low for too long. CAIR watches Europe and thinks the time is ripe to rise up here in the USA. We should welcome this. It makes identifying those with whom we're at war so much easier.
Posted by: omvi
at November 7, 2006 9:12 PM
Mr Bedier, you should know this: "The dogs bark but the caravan continues."
The Shah of Iran, in 1979
at November 7, 2006 9:17 PM
The staff of the CAIR belong in maximum security penitentiaries!!!!!!!
They're terrorists!!
I personally think it would be better if CAIR's members were shot on sight.
And by the way, I STILL believe that CAIR was involved in the events of 9-11!!!
Posted by: pythagoras at November 7, 2006 9:19 PM
Everytime CAIR brings out its non arab mouthpiece Mr.Hooper, it reminds me of a rope a dope contest.
you have to be mentally unstable to buy into islam and or mentaly challenged. when non muslims are armed with the knowledge they will not accept the cult of death. so the muslilm double talk does not work. and how does a "moderate" muslim with a brain ever think to the koran makes sense? they have to play head games with themselves, and must be very destructive on their brain. how many brain cells does it take to wake up and say.. islam is a monsterous cult, leave it now!
at November 7, 2006 9:25 PM
CAIR - 1, FREE SPEECH - 0
Islamonazi CAIR Intimidates Yet Another American Business In Dhimmitude
http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/videos/MS092506.php - MSNBC video
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at November 7, 2006 10:03 PM
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