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In "CAIR's Congress" in FrontPage this morning, I discuss some of what we can reasonably expect from the incoming Congress (news links in the original):
With the Democratic victory in the midterm elections, one big winner was the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). The American Islamic pressure group now has a chance to advance its agenda in numerous ways, with energetic water-carrying by, among others, the Speaker of the House, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and the first Muslim member of Congress.Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, who is likely to be the next House Speaker, has announced her intention to “correct the Patriot Act” and wants to criminalize scrutiny of Muslims at airports and elsewhere: “Since September 11, many Muslim Americans have been subjected to searches at airports and other locations based upon their religion and national origin. We must make it illegal.” Since religion is the one factor that the jihadists themselves invariably point to as the motivation for their violent actions, Pelosi is calling upon investigators to ignore the single most important key to understanding jihadist strategy and goals. If she gets her way, any Muslim who is searched at an airport at any time will be able to claim that he is being illegally profiled; a law criminalizing searches of Muslims at airports would have a chilling effect upon any effort to investigate jihad terror activity in the Muslim community.
Helping pass such a law will be John Conyers, D-MI, the probable new chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. “The policies of the Bush administration,” he has declared, “have sent a wave of fear through our immigrant communities and targeted our Arab and Muslim neighbors.”Conyers has also masterminded House Resolution 288, which condemns “religious intolerance” but clearly singles out Islam as needing special protection from such criticism. It states that “it should never be official policy of the United States Government to disparage the Quran, Islam, or any religion in any way, shape, or form,” and “calls upon local, State, and Federal authorities to work to prevent bias-motivated crimes and acts against all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith.” The bill was referred to the House subcommittee on the Constitution in June 2005, but Conyers, as chairman of the Judiciary Committee, could rescue it from legislative oblivion.
Such a bill, of course, would do a great deal to stifle honest discussion of the elements of Islam that give rise today to violence and fanaticism. William Gawthrop, former program manager for the Joint Terrorism Task Force of the Defense Department’s Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA), has noted: “There is evidence to support the contention that sources of terrorism in Islam may reside within the strategic themes of Islam,” including “the example of Muhammad, the Quran, the hadiths, Islamic law, the pillars of faith and jihad.” However, “as late as early 2006, the senior service colleges of the Department of Defense had not incorporated into their curriculum a systematic study of Muhammad as a military or political leader. As a consequence, we still do not have an in-depth understanding of the war-fighting doctrine laid down by Muhammad, how it might be applied today by an increasing number of Islamic groups, or how it might be countered.” Conyers’ resolution would effectively end any hope that the Department of Defense or any other agency would begin such study, as vitally needed as it is.
Nothing would please CAIR more, of course, as that agency routinely tars as “bigotry” any attempt to discuss such matters. And now Pelosi and Conyers will be joined in the House by the first-ever Muslim Congressman, Keith Ellison, D-MN. CAIR energetically boosted Ellison’s candidacy: according to journalist Joel Mowbray, CAIR co-founder and executive director Nihad Awad “headlined a fundraiser last month that the campaign estimates netted $15,000 to $20,000, and in July, and it appears that CAIR’s co-founder bundled contributions totaling just over $10,000. (The campaign issued a terse denial on the latter point, though it refused to explain away overwhelming evidence to the contrary.)”
Ellison, meanwhile, will be the keynote speaker at CAIR’s Annual Banquet in Arlington, Virginia next week. In a dispiriting sign of the times, the FBI will also send a representative. None of the thousand or so guests expected to attend are likely to ask any CAIR representative about the organization’s troubling history or associations, or about the propriety of a Congressman speaking at an event sponsored by such a group. For CAIR is an offshoot of the Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP), a group that was in turn founded by Mousa Abu Marzook of the terrorist group Hamas. Shortly after 9/11, CAIR’s website called for donations for the Holy Land Foundation (under a photo of the burning World Trade Center towers). The Holy Land Foundation has since been shut down for funding Hamas. Terror expert Steven Emerson says on the basis of this and other evidence that CAIR is “a radical fundamentalist front group for Hamas.”
Consistent with these origins, CAIR’s former Board Chairman Omar Ahmad told a Muslim audience in 1998: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant…The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.” Although Ahmad now denies saying this, the reporter who witnessed his speech stands by the accuracy of her story. CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper has himself said: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.”
Several CAIR officials, including its Community Affairs Director, Bassem Khafagi; a Board member of CAIR’s Texas chapter, Ghassan Elashi; a communications specialist and civil rights coordinator for CAIR, Randall Todd Ismail Royer; and fundraiser Rabih Haddad have been convicted of various terrorism-related offenses. No current CAIR official has ever explained how these people were able to work with the organization in the first place if it is really the moderate civil-rights organization it claims to be.
Of course, CAIR officials have met with Presidents Clinton and Bush, and have long had the ear of the mainstream media. But instead of being subjected to increasing public scrutiny as it should be, CAIR will be able to use the new Congress to expand its reach and influence even farther than it has up to now.
At Ellison’s victory party, some of his supporters shouted “Allahu akbar!” while the candidate looked on with obvious embarrassment. But he had no need to be concerned. In a gushing piece on his victory, the New York Times never mentioned CAIR once – and dismissed concerns about his record, and likely request to be sworn in on the Qur’an, as coming from “Muslim-bashers in the blogosphere.” It noted that some “Muslim American activists” have compared Ellison’s candidacy to “John F. Kennedy’s breaking the taboo against a Roman Catholic’s being president.”
The big difference, of course, is that in Kennedy’s case he addressed those concerns – which were in any case baseless, since the Pope had in fact no plans to rule the United States through a Catholic president. But concerns about Ellison’s views on terror groups and Islamic supremacism are hardly baseless: they stem from amply documented statements and activities of the CAIR officials with whom he will soon be enjoying a banquet, as well as the declared intentions of Islamic groups around the world. Nevertheless, these concerns are dismissed as “bigotry” and left unanswered. And if Nancy Pelosi and John Conyers get their way, it may soon be illegal even to ask them.
Posted by Robert at November 13, 2006 9:31 AM
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I wish more Americans had an opportunity to get to know Muslims. Then they would not be susceptible to the silly anti-Muslim propaganda that is floated by some right-wing Christians.
Please read
Muslims are good folks
By Charley Reese
http://www.jamiat.org.za/aj/inter/mrgoodfolk.html
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at November 13, 2006 9:39 AM
Robert you said that
"CAIR energetically boosted Ellison’s candidacy: according to journalist Joel Mowbray, CAIR co-founder and executive director Nihad Awad “headlined a fundraiser last month that the campaign estimates netted $15,000 to $20,000, and in July, and it appears that CAIR’s co-founder bundled contributions totaling just over $10,000. (The campaign issued a terse denial on the latter point, though it refused to explain away overwhelming evidence to the contrary.)”
Does this not in fact invoke a violation of CAIR's 501(c) 3 tax exempt status? Further, there was talk of CAIR having some sort of ad in favor of Keith Ellison. Please let me know what you think of this, either via here or by email. Very important.
Posted by: Steve Harkonnen at November 13, 2006 9:45 AM
As for Ramon's post above, the so-called Right Wing Christians aren't driving it for me. It was the attacks against our country that drove me to suspicion. I'm not religious by a long shot, by any means, and I immediately hold Muslims suspect. Sorry, I don't want to get to know them any more than I already do. The proverbial cat is out of the bag, and I don't need any religion telling me about Muslims.
Posted by: Steve Harkonnen at November 13, 2006 9:48 AM
The new Congress will spend much of its time trying to crucify Bush for all his sins, both real and imagined. While that goes on, the peaceful ones will continue to infect the nation unchecked. My guess is we'll need something worse than 9/11 to finally tackle Islamania in the correct manner and finally clear out its leftist lapdogs once and for all. Too many people have short memories of what happened five years ago and if they think last week's election will bring positive change they will be in for a rude awakening.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 13, 2006 9:52 AM
Maybe Ramon needs to get to know some right wing Christians and he wouldn't be so susceptible to silly muslim propaganda.
Muslims caused this. It's their cult. They are to blame. Take responsibility for your actions muslims.
Posted by: freewoman at November 13, 2006 9:59 AM
"Conyers has also masterminded House Resolution 288, which condemns “religious intolerance” but clearly singles out Islam as needing special protection from such criticism. It states that “it should never be official policy of the United States Government to disparage the Quran, Islam, or any religion in any way, shape, or form,” and “calls upon local, State, and Federal authorities to work to prevent bias-motivated crimes and acts against all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith.”" (Front Page)
Is this the end of freedom of speech in America? Islam can scream bloody murder, killing infidels, hate freedom, but we are muzzled and now allowed to talk back? Is Islam above scrutiny from its message of intolerance for Judeo-Christian values? Is this R88 not tying one hand behind our back, so we cannot fight back against a religion that is clearly hostile to our freedom of belief, of speech, of equality and our values of civilization? They have the freedom of assembly to demonstrate against our way of life, demonstrate outside our places of worship, have the freedom to live amongst us, call us bigots and racists, but we do not have the right to speak back and point out the source of their anti-civilization religiously inspired poisons, as it is written in their Quran? Is this a war of a free society fighting against invasion from a politicized religion, and we are not allowed to fight back? Is this not a double standard, where their 'freedom to attack us' is protected by the government, while our freedom to defend ourselves against this attack is restricted? That's suicide, where the government protects the rights of the attackers, while criminalizing defense. If this is 'official policy' then we might as well lie down and die, since we are conquered from within.
If R88 passes, then it is a gross failure of government to protect its people from the anti-freedom Islamic Sharia agenda against humanity. If so, then CAIR is a political fith column for Islamic fascism, and it should be adressed as such.
Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at November 13, 2006 10:01 AM
Ramon, although I know a very nice Muslim woman, the fact remains that Muslims are attacking non-Muslims and the U.S. because of Islam regardless of what our president says. If there were no Muslims in the United States or allowed into the United States, there would not have been a 9-11. Since we are unable to know which Muslim will carry out Jihad in the United States and so called "nice" or "moderate" Muslims are either unwilling or afraid to help protect our country-supposedly their country also, I think all Muslims should be under survellience at all times including their mosques.
But nothing will happen until the next terror attacks on our soil. Then the non-Muslim majority American citizens, who are sick of the idiotic Islam is a religion of peace false propaganda, will rise up and do what needs to be done and our government will need to take the right steps to protect us...which hopefully will be before it is too late.
And this author has no idea what is happening with the Christian communities in the Muslim countries. They are being nurdered even in their churches, raped, tortured, having limbs, breasts amputated, children and girls kidnapped, beheaded, burned, stabbed, shot, beaten, falsely accused and arrested, imprisoned, homes burned, forcibly circumcised and mutilitated, and part of a genocide by Muslims against Christians that is underway in many countries as we speak. The so called "nice" Muslims if they exist are doing nothing about this. And the jihad/genocide continues and affects nearly every country in the world.
If Muslims were such good folks, explain to me why they stand by and do absolutely nothing. Right now, various Muslim groups in Palestine are calling on Muslims to attack the U.S. I have not heard one peep out of any Muslim, CAIR, or whoever Muslim group, decrying this and taking action to stop it. The "nice" Muslims occupy and reproduce waiting for the Jihadists to clear the land for them...that is the reality.
Posted by: Abby at November 13, 2006 10:04 AM
Pelosi says she’s a grandmother, does she have any female grandchildren? Has she signed them up for genital mutilation yet? Anyone wonder why they are in such a race to undo the terrorist surveillance program/patriot act? I suspect there are some in that party that are communicating/supporting terrorists regularly. To some, the murder of swimsuit wearing athletes, the cutting off of school children’s heads for trophies, the blowing up of civilian aircraft, is just plain silly. Let’s all have a good laugh and get over it. Listen to the islamist propaganda, now examine recent dem talking points. It is hard to tell where one stops and the other begins. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
Posted by: tgusa at November 13, 2006 10:14 AM
“The policies of the Bush administration,” he has declared, “have sent a wave of fear through our immigrant communities and targeted our Arab and Muslim neighbors.”
Conyers has also masterminded House Resolution 288, which condemns “religious intolerance” but clearly singles out Islam as needing special protection from such criticism.
Absolutely true, muslims are scared and they should be. The truth is on our Side. The fact they are even considering a house resolution is proof the truth is spreading. Remember folks watch this and take notes on who supports it and who does not. Never vote party just performance. Let me go shed a tear for the poor misunderstood muslims (not).
at November 13, 2006 10:14 AM
Ramon-
Muslims (on average) may be good folks but so far their silence has been deafening. Until we see Muslims finally coming out in droves to sincerely denounce the crimes committed in the name of their "religion" thinking people will keep expecting nothing but further evil from Islam. Besides, 1400 years of a history of intolerance, war, and oppression by Islam cannot be easily dismissed. That's just the way it is.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 13, 2006 10:17 AM
Ramon,
You've come to the wrong place to spread non-sense about Muslims. We have seen the enemy, and it's Islam.
Ths fact the US Congress will be controlled by Democrats means they will make every attempt to limit speech critical of Islam, if the Pelosis and Conyers of the world have their way. We must defy and fight these enemies of freedom, on top of having to resist Islam. Grim times ahead, my friends, grim times.
Posted by: Proud Infidel at November 13, 2006 10:26 AM
OT check out this nauseating piece from the BBC regarding bridging the cultural divide between muslims and the west, this is the main head line by the way as it is a report from the UN.
I will let you into a secret, its all Israels fault.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6142308.stm
As regards to the election/Congress issue I agree with proud infidel, there are grim times ahead.....Sigh :-(
Posted by: km at November 13, 2006 10:31 AM
Listen my children and you shall hear Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere, One if by land, and two if by sea; And I on the opposite shore will be, Ready to ride and spread the alarm For the country to be up and to arm." So through the night rode Paul Revere; A cry of defiance, and not of fear, A voice in the darkness, a knock at the door, And a word that shall echo for evermore!
Hope you had a nice time in Vegas hope to see you there next time.
at November 13, 2006 10:36 AM
Assalamau Laikum all,
The republicans have had 12 long years to do something to arrest the hate and discrimination piled upon muslims.
They have failed miserably, the media has stoked up problems further and something had to be done.
Iraq could not be left like it is...and the lies and rhetoric had to stop. So it the Amerike themselves who have spoken ....replican policies don't work.
Give the democrats a chance...let them accomodate CAIR...perhaps you may be surprised. It is the U in Bush that will now become prominent...U turns to turn off the hate and open new avenues...new bridges ...new opportunities...Nancy Pelosi's visions...give them a chance.
Posted by: Naseem at November 13, 2006 10:36 AM
Grim times, I ‘m not so sure. I feel a sort of excitement, the USA has been on the wrong track for half a century. Something keeps nagging at me, something keeps whispering to me the words of my forefathers, Freedom, Liberty, Justice, duty, Honor, Country, the rebirth of a Nation in the image that it originally was intended. I can’t help but wondering, is this how they felt in 1776? A certain amount of anxiety, a restless apprehension, a feeling of, if the sacrifice is made, good things to come. Call me nuts but I get all fired up just thinking about it.
Posted by: tgusa at November 13, 2006 10:45 AM
Ps. Please come by and support my new blog, get off the ground leave a comment or two, and any feedback
thanks to everyone
Keep up sounding the alarm
others will wake up and join the good fight
as I have.
Cheers
CR
at November 13, 2006 10:49 AM
I don’t think this resolution will get far it was probably just payback for a fat campaign contribution. It will serve the purpose of identifying the sell out and co-conspirators. Before this even makes it into the system some fun loving muslims will do something incredibly stupid to bring even more attention to themselves and show everyone the fallacy of this resolution. naseem can spread kosseh sher all she wants it will not change the silent majority from waking up. The truth is spreading, Robert’s success with his latest book and the attention and success of the American Truth Forum Symposium are proof.
Well spoken Grunt, I am with ya brother.
Posted by: Ronin at November 13, 2006 10:51 AM
Try as they will to do their worst, I don't think conyers and pelosi will get their way. And even with their MSM cheerleaders doing their best to either rationalize or hide this stuff, the more exposure it gets, the better. What they will succeed in doing, in all probability, is ensuring that there's absolutely no chance that their little soiree will last beyond Nov 2008.
Posted by: Infidel33 at November 13, 2006 11:06 AM
Nancy Pelosi is a moron.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 13, 2006 11:06 AM
I'm getting a clearer view of how Hitler managed to rise to power in Germany. The situation in the US is looking more and more like Germany circa 1930 thanks to last week's election. A major economic debacle might send the US rightward finally-but hopefully not as far as Hitler. Once last week's winner takes over it'll be Islamic party time in the USA. Let the disgust begin.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 13, 2006 11:19 AM
Islamic propaganda depends on process called “branding”, repeat something long enough and it begins to resonate with its targeted audience. The enemy of this process is “truth in advertising” branding fails when the product (islam) can not live up to it’s claims. I think westerners are past believing in the party line and starting to seek out knowledge on their own.
Western freedoms are primarily based around the concept of rugged individualism not governmental control. Islam depends on a cult like control or tribalism to flourish. No amount of legislation can bring such opposing ideologies together.
Posted by: Ronin at November 13, 2006 11:20 AM
Sort of OT, but hey, look, Kofi & co. say it isn't Islam, stupid, it's those intractable Israelis:
"The authors said they wished to emphasize the "urgency" of the Palestinian issue, which forms a significant factor to the growing tear between Muslim society and Western society, the report said."
Read it all:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3327592,00.html
Posted by: Dum Dhimmi Dum Dum Dum at November 13, 2006 11:29 AM
America becomes a nation of monsters, America. Hypocrites. Murderers. Fools.
Ever since the United States Army massacred 300 Lakotas in 1890, American forces have intervened elsewhere around the globe more than 100 times.
Indeed the United States has sent troops abroad or militarily struck other countries' territory 216 times since independence from Britain.
Since 1945 the United States has intervened in more than 20 countries throughout the world.
Wake up America, you cann't have it both (U.S.A hegemony and imperialism ambition)in one hand and (security and peace)in the other hand.
Posted by: Ramon at November 13, 2006 11:38 AM
First, JW and DW are not all that kindly disposed to the Bush administration (and for Islamic-related matters, neither is LGF). I have read here many times laments over the attitudes and statements issued by the Administration; also JW does not seem to support Bush on Iraq (at least, that is my reading).
So, now, with the Democrats in control of Congress, there is much hand wringing over the horror this portends.
I doubt our anxieties will be borne out. The US will remain bound to Israel; the US will continue be an enemy of Iran; and will certainly not be kindly disposed to Hezbollah or other jihadis.
And, if, due to the actions of Pelosi, jihadis make it onto planes, it will only happen once (not good comfort to the victims, I know). (And, let's be clear about something: Bush has had five years to make the country secure and has not; chemical and nuclear plants are not well protected; TSA is a joke.)
The evilness of militant Islam and the dislike it engenders in most Americans will not permit our government to take a conciliatory stance toward it.
Furthermore, I think, our withdrawal from Iraq will be a great benefit to us in our war on Islamic terror, allowing us to focus our energies on the enemies that matter.
Posted by: Seymour Paine at November 13, 2006 11:45 AM
Nancy pelosi is an evil, and extremely dangerous woman bent on destroying America. And she may succeed if she is not stopped quickly.
Posted by: pythagoras at November 13, 2006 12:40 PM
America becomes a nation of monsters, America. Hypocrites. Murderers. Fools.
Fools, probably. The rest, not likely. Had Islam taken on Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union the way it has taken on the US in the last five years Islam would be gone and nobody in those two countries would shed a tear. Be grateful the US and its "murederous" allies prevailed over both.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 13, 2006 12:52 PM
I am so tired of the muslims and their Americas evil crap (and trolls). We do take risks and have made a few bad calls which we made up for. No one is attempting to sneak into any islamic country to find a better life, no one asks to be a muslim unless forced, tricked, or is threatened. No American President has ever called for the complete domination of any people, nor have they asked for genocide against any race, creed or religion. The biggest problem I have with islam is it has absolutely nothing to offer and yet they insist on sharing it. I can not be a muslim, I like women not little girls, little boys, or Farm animals. I don’t want to dominate any woman, I don’t want entire civilizations to bend to my will nor do I insist on stopping mankind’s forward progress and returning a world dreamed up by a demonic pedophile not worthy of respect or followers. Islam might win but they will do it only after men such as myself (and there are hundreds of millions) are all-dead. I think the opposite will happen, the truth about this evil domination scheme will get out and someday muslims will be ashamed to admit they ever followed mohammad. If they did a realistic assessment of what islam has brought to this planet they would be ashamed now but most are too far gone to see the truth. The simple truth is America is the best hope for mankind. Followers of islam should have to wear warning labels “not fit for human consumption”.
Posted by: Ronin at November 13, 2006 1:10 PM
Ramon: But why bother reading something that is pure and obvious propaganda?.
And then so WHAT if Muslims are "good folks"???
Islam is still guilty of institutionalizing first-degree murder throughout the centuries and is in no way a 'race'. So, tell us, If Islam is a 'race' then are Muslims of Caucasian ancestry the same "race" as Muslims of Indonesian ancestry??? Think that over. I'll drop you a hint: Islam is an IDEOLOGY and is unrelated to "race."
Most of us here are quite capable of assessing Muslims and their Islamic behavior for ourselves without someone "explaining" to us what are we seeing for us. By the way, how do we know this man Reese hasn't been paid to write this Islamic whitewash?? Can you actually prove to anyone he hasn't been paid off?? I met a Muslim in Costa Rica in 1998 who personally told me that Islam was plotting to attack America and the western democracies. So I already your Reese is a liar from experience with Muslims (of which there are ONLY 2 million here).
Muslims really don't count for much-- all they are permitted to do is what they are told to by their mosque leaders and little else. Certainly they do nothing to advance the world in any way shape or form. UNLIKE the United States which grows 30% of all food grown on earth. No, Muslims just shove Islam down everyone's throats at all costs and we are all supposed to be impressed (and god help us if we are NOT!).
It is Islam that matters and it is Islam has institutionalized what most people around the world call first-degree murder. "And when the forbidden months have passed, slay the unbelievers everywhere they are found....." (does THAT sound familiar).
Islam has a history attached to it. Yes, and one that ruthlessly and dogmatically destroyed at least nine whole civilizations, one that stole 95% of Greece's national territory, one that slaughtered more than ninety million Hindus in the Indian subcontinent along with tens of millions of Buddhists. islam has invaded Ethiopia recently, the Balkans 900 years ago
Buy the way, the United States is NOT an empire as you have incorrectly stated. All hegemony means is leadership or the highest rank. There is nothing intrinicaly wrong with hegemony as can clearly be seen.
America has no over-arching ideology to impose as doing is defending the world from nuthouse ideologies like Islam and Communism. Good old communism murdered two hundred million people in China and Russia (AND BY THE WAY I ALREADY KNOW YOU ARE A COMMUNIST!!). And I am sure that is fine with you. Hey it's gotta be better than 'merica, right!!!!! Ha Ha Ha!!!!!
And the American Indians (who came from Asia by the way) thought nothing at all of slaughtering thousands of their own folks. The non-native "native Americas" ALSO practiced slavery for thousands of years of their own history, enslaving their own without remorse. Apparently, slavery is just fine with you as long as it isn't Americans involved (then it becomes "racism"). Notice, that race has stopped being an issue in anything you can attack Americans with as long as Americans aren't involved. So what does that tell us about you (Other than that you are a big-mouthed oaf?).
America is the world's longest continuously democratic society and democracy is the absence of state-imposed ideology--each person finds his own ideology. That is why the United States is the world's greatest nation (Americans invented the automobile, the telephone, the telegraph, sound-recording, the elevator, the skyscraper, the television, the airplane, the laser,the light bulb, the internet to name a few things--no other nation can claim nearly as many inventions used throughout the world in such a short span of time). Americans also ended the slave trade in 1807 (it was the French and the British who instituted it in the western hemisphere during the 16th century--not Americans). As for Iraq, islam invaded us FIRST. They sent sleeper cells to blow up our planes and kill our people in the 1970s. THus our "invasion" of Iraq was a "counter-invasion" in reaction to jihadist aggression that is a part of Islamic history. Islam attacked America first in the 1780s (attacking our cargo vessels plying mediterranean waters).
Democracy contribute more to humanity than any state-sponsored ideology ever could or has.
No amount of distortions and half-truths can obfuscate that. But I give you credit for trying.
Tell that to your Communist-Islamic "fearless leader."
at November 13, 2006 1:23 PM
Again, I must put forth the statement....Don't blame me...I voted straight REPUBLICAN!!!!...
Posted by: Oiznop at November 13, 2006 1:24 PM
pythagoras, that was a great post. Although I'm not American, you just reminded me why I love America so much :) America has indeed done a lot for mankind.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 13, 2006 2:38 PM
From our concerned "friend" Naseem:
"Give the democrats a chance...let them accomodate CAIR...perhaps you may be surprised. It is the U in Bush that will now become prominent...U turns to turn off the hate and open new avenues...new bridges ...new opportunities...Nancy Pelosi's visions...give them a chance."
Translation:
"Look America, Bush had 6 years to win the "war on terror". He didn't, so obviously the only solution is to stop fighting and welcome sharia and our new Islamic overlords. If you give it a chance, I think you'll find living under our yoke as second-class citizens very rewarding.
C'mon, America. Give peace a chance."
BARF.
Posted by: Professor PyroSkank at November 13, 2006 4:12 PM
Naseem is a muslim of course and to him we are infidels because we do not worship his moongod.
CAIR ---? "a chance" for what so they can push for shaira law in the USA? come on we are INFIDELS not morons!
oy vey
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 13, 2006 8:20 PM
CASE IN POINT:
CAIR’s former Board Chairman Omar Ahmad told a Muslim audience in 1998: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant…The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 13, 2006 8:22 PM
Also, just to be perfectly clear on the subject:
I will not submit.
America Hu'Akbar!
America Hu'Akbar!
America Hu'Akbar!
at November 13, 2006 8:39 PM
I suggest everyone contact their Congressmen and their Senators to make sure this legislation is not passed.
This is a dangerous proposal
We will be like the UK and soon be as bad off as Europe.
Stop it before it begins. Pass this article to all over and over until all Americans know.
This is against our freedom of speech!
at November 13, 2006 8:46 PM
Thank you, Ramon, for the link: "Muslims are good folks" By Charley Reese. I read it and it indeed changed my outlook on life.
After reading it, I decided to let the neighborhood children play with my loaded handgun because I've known a lot of people who handle loaded handguns and they never got hurt. The neighborhood children didn't get hurt either, so that just proves that loaded handguns aren't dangerous.
When the neighborhood parents found out, they were very upset and said some hateful things about handguns but I know they're just gun-o-phobic. I gave them some books to read to help them understand the rich and glorious history of peaceful handguns, and emphasized that only a small minority of criminals have hijacked the use of handguns for violent purposes.
Posted by: Xero G at November 13, 2006 11:30 PM
From Robert's post:
"...However, “as late as early 2006, the senior service colleges of the Department of Defense had not incorporated into their curriculum a systematic study of Muhammad as a military or political leader. As a consequence, we still do not have an in-depth understanding of the war-fighting doctrine laid down by Muhammad, how it might be applied today by an increasing number of Islamic groups, or how it might be countered.” Conyers’ resolution would effectively end any hope that the Department of Defense or any other agency would begin such study, as vitally needed as it is. …"
Good Lord! Is DOD in the same cold war box that State Department and the CIA are in?
I know they used to read Sun Tsu, Lee's Lieutenants, Rommel, Hart, etc.; but after 3 years of a war with Islam and they still have not opened a book on these guys? That may help explain why we are at where we are at.
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Peloci and Conyers are treading dangerously close to treason. But what else is new for this gang?
If you want a nightmare, think of her being third in line for President of the United States, which she will be come January.
at November 14, 2006 1:04 AM
OK Ramon, I read it. I'm convinced. The one-page anecdotal report of a chap who knows a few muslims and has enjoyed travelling in muslim countries, and who points out that most of them don't lop people's heads off, is such a well-researched piece of documentation that all Robert's studies and writings pale into insignificance.
As do, of course, the nasty attacks jihadists world-wide are constantly launching.
I think I'll run out and buy a niqab, so I too can enjoy travelling in Saudi Arabia...
Posted by: Lili at November 14, 2006 2:43 AM
Muslims continually complain that scrutinizing them "risks dividing Islam and the West". Can anybody explain why I should care about or object to that?
Posted by: aynrandgirl at November 14, 2006 4:04 AM
It is quite clear that most of the people who learnt about Islam or embraced Islam got attached to the religion after being inspired of any Muslim's personality, either watching him his nearby or in the media.
The quality of moral character of that Muslim made such psychological effects on the minds of the people that stressed him to either embrace Islam, or at least to learn the actual teachings of the religion.
Each time a person embraced Islam, it was either a quality of Islam that inspired him to embrace the religion or it was a quality of anyone of its believers that compelled him to do so.
No other religion can present an example like that in which a person, after being inspired of any believer's character, embraced that religion while Islam--even in the present century--can present a great many examples of that phenomena.
Posted by: Ramon at November 14, 2006 4:34 PM
If she ever get her way, she will kill off a whole avionics industry. How many people inthe US then fly? Someone will get rid of her.
Remember there is so much other industry that depend on the Avionics industry, will also die... She simply will not be able to do that, period.
Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at November 14, 2006 6:30 PM
Ramon,
I'm sorry but you are just patently wrong that no other religion has believers who inspire people to convert because of their character. If you read the lives of the Catholic saints, from the past 2000 years or even in our own century you will find just that.
People like St. Maximilian Kolbe, who traded places with another prisoner at Auschwitz so that he would die in his place since the other man had a family. He was left to starve to death and comforted the other prisoners during a two week ordeal at the end of which the Germans gave him a lethal injection. He did this for the love of Jesus and for the love of his neighbor.
People like Edith Stein who was a Jewish woman who converted to Catholicism and became a Carmelite nun, Sr. Teresa Benedicta, and sacrificed herself, again, at Auschwitz, for the love of Jesus and for the welfare of the Jewish people. You can read about her here:
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0001.html
There was also St. Thomas More who stood up for marriage in the 16th century and lost his head because he wouldn't lie and say that Catherine of Aragon was not really King Henry VIII's wife. He had all the temporal advantages this life has to offer, power as Chancellor of England, prestige, respect and the kings good favor. He gave it all up and his life too because he would not go against his conscience, for the sake of Jesus, the queen and the good of the country. Could you imagine a man like that standing up for you? Wow.
There was St. Mary Magdalene, whom Our Lord forgave and released from her sexual sins. Jesus didn't condemn or kill her. He loved her and told her to go and sin no more. And that's exactly what she did.
There were Saints Lucy, Agnes and Cecelia, all virgin martyrs who chose Jesus and death rather than lose their virginity.
None of these saints died so that could have sex for all eternity. They died to help their neighbors and for the love of Jesus Christ, true God and true man. These are the people that inspire me, not someone who doesn't know that the faith they spread encourages murder if it is resisted. If God creates then he has to be about love because love makes all things new. Allah is such a destructive entity that he can't be God. What "god" would insist on destroying it's own creation as a matter of daily business? This is something Allah extols his followers to do. So how can he be God?
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 14, 2006 11:46 PM
Islam often misunderstand - depending on who you are and what you have been taught but when
analysed with pure intentions, it never fails to pleasantly surprise - regardless of who you are and what you've been taught. Islam is for every single human being that walks this earth - whether you are sick or healthy, rich or poor.
If you are one who holds prejudices against this religion, someone who loves to hate and condemn..then, a renowned convert, Gary Miller has these words to say to you...
There is no compulsion for man to accept truth. But it is certainly a shame upon the human intellect when man is not even interested in
finding out what the truth is. Islam teaches that God has given us the FACULTY OF REASON and therefore expects man to reason things out
objectively and systematically for ourselves - to reflect and to question and to reflect.
at November 15, 2006 9:18 AM
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