Islamic thinkers society??? How is THAT even possible?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 15, 2006 11:58 AM

Yup, I was listening to that also. What a bunch of crap!

Did you catch the part where he said the first thing he thought when the WTC towers were hit was that it was a plot by the U.S. government to invade Iraq?

As Glenn Beck would say, "My head was about to explode!"

I'd better keep some duct tape nearby in case my head explodes!

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at November 15, 2006 12:01 PM

Any group that spews the crap this one does obviously isn't thinking at all. Only a brainless idiot would advocate such lunacy.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 15, 2006 12:04 PM

Where are the Moderates?

Send in the Moderates.

(sung to the tune of 'Send in the Clowns')

The title refers to a phrase reputedly used in a circus when an unforeseen disaster had occurred, with the clowns being sent in to distract the audience from the problem.

Posted by: Report at November 15, 2006 12:09 PM

"Islamic thinkers society??? How is THAT even possible?"

My thoughts precisely. "Islamic Thinkers Society" is an oxymoron if there ever was.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at November 15, 2006 12:11 PM

@Islamic Thinkers Society

Go back to your own islamic sh##hole countries and do it in your own backyard. Leave my home and my Constitution alone! Those I.T.S. facists/nazis with turbans can go straigt back to HELL!

Posted by: squire at November 15, 2006 12:12 PM

STINKING THINKING!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 15, 2006 12:15 PM

WHOA, just saw that Fox will start a series starting tonight, 1900, on "Christianity in the Muslim World." First episode, why is Christianity disappearing from Bethlehem. Could be interesting, or could be the usual complete punt.

Posted by: longtime lurker at November 15, 2006 12:17 PM

Robert,

Gee, did you also notice that anytime Glenn Beck had him cornered with the Qur'an, he would use Mir's favorite line, "Well, I'm not an Islamic Scholar..."

Priceless!

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at November 15, 2006 12:17 PM

longtime lurker,

If you get bored with the Fox special, then watch the Glenn Beck Jihad Special tonight on CNN Headline News at 7:00 pm and 9:00 pm Eastern Time.

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at November 15, 2006 12:21 PM

Yes, the first step to becoming backwards always starts with the women. Cover the women, ban the women from going in public areas, cut the women's genitals, stop them from working or driving or shopping.

Controlling women is the utmost importance in starting sharia.

Utterly useless worthless impotent misogynistic muslim males. They should be castrated at birth.

Posted by: freewoman at November 15, 2006 12:22 PM

How about the guest last night that was a Muslim politician and started off with the patriotic tripe until Beck fired a tough question at him , he did the Ibrahim Hooper shuffle and mention Timothy McVeigh while changing the subject.
I thought for sure Glen said thank you and good bye to him but as he rotated to his right his face had the look of being lied to by another
guest claiming to be truthful.

McVeigh never made a video praising jesus and citing verses from the new testament as he and others sawed off the head of a civilian bound and gagged , besides, Timothy was linked to the Saudi Jihadists from his tour of duty in Gulf war 1 , Al-Qaeda look for angry soldier that could be swayed to bomb a government building and murder civilians.
So the McVeigh thing is getting pretty old , plus he was caught and executed , when Muslims kill people they get a parade or are exalted for doing Allah's work.

I still believe that muslims living in America for 20 years makes them no more American then me living in a garage makes me a car.
It's easy for Muslim politician to act loyal while their a minority, but when Hooper gets his way will these apostates choose an islamic
America or die for freedom.
Muslims don't dare do it now in islamic nations so what would be different for the spineless weasels that let non-Muslim Countries
go into war zones with muslims killing other muslims. The last 3 wars were to defend Muslims , maybe Iraq should be the last time for bailing out this misogenistic followers of a pedophile and warrior that killed civilians.

Posted by: ala-sux at November 15, 2006 12:29 PM

the fact that a person cannot be an American proper and a Muslim is true. A Muslim's allegiance is not to a flag but to God first and foremost. For a muslim, to engage in politics is like a Jehovah Witness engaging in politics, it is forbidden. You cannot truly be an American Muslim...that is, you cannot serve two masters for either you will hate the one and love the other ala Issa...I am muslim convert and was born and bred in america but i prefer my alegiance first and foremost to my God and not to any mortal or mortals whether Muslim or non-Muslim..

Posted by: sikhy at November 15, 2006 12:38 PM

ala-sux,

Yup, my wife and I were laughing our butts off when he started doing the "Ibrahim Hooper shuffle."

How Glenn Beck keeps his cool is beyond me. I would have pulled the plug on him after about the third sentence started coming out of his mouth.

As for Timothy McVeigh, you're right on target with that one!

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at November 15, 2006 12:40 PM

Ah yes . . . the !slamic thinkers society . . .remember this rally in NYC April 2006?

Be patient with the video . . . the rally becomes apparent after the unwelcome musical intro.

Posted by: miira at November 15, 2006 12:49 PM

What I would like to know is why are we not sending in our Delta or Seals to eliminate these creatures? I know some special ops that would embrace such a mission.

Posted by: Bonniea at November 15, 2006 12:50 PM

@sikhy

You should be jailed. Allah (not the Muslim fake, but Yahweh) curses you and the evil cult you have joined.

One day America will wake up and OUTLAW Islam because it is a clear and present danger to the USA. It is depraved, violent cult. Pure devil worship.

Would you like examples to PROVE that The Fiend Mohammad (may his name be wiped out) was the devil? There are hundreds!!!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 15, 2006 12:52 PM

McVeigh,
Never saw a guy in the last 30 years executed so fast. He went to Iraq during the Gulf War and came back and truck bombed a building. Who lives in the ME? What is their preferred method of attacking civilians? Coincidence? Who else will never be discovered because we killed him before he could possibly, have a change of mind and come up with new information, after 9-11 for instance? Just sayin.

Posted by: tgusa at November 15, 2006 12:53 PM

I, Quantum Infidel will submit wholeheartedly to Sharia Law and become Muslim under one condition and one condition only - show me empirical proof that Allah exists.

If Islamic Thinkers Society is so sure of their purpose, surely they can prove the existence of Allah and thus the legitimacy of Islam...in a public forum.

I for one am unwilling to live within the framework of any religious "faith". Any "lifestyle" system a personal choice and Sharia Law is not a choice.

If Muslims want Sharia law in this nation - they better have indisputable proof and concrete fact that their god is real. I'm not in the least bit concerned of whether or not this deity is of positive nature - I want proof that Allah exists and if Muslims cannot prove beyond a shadow of doubt that Allah exists - Allah should therefore be considered false and non-existent.

Without this apex fact, I see no reason to respect the Muslim point of view anymore than I would respect the position of a pedophile stating that sex with young children is proper or moral.

Does anyone else here even remotely see the strength in this irreducible argument?

Posted by: Quantum Infidel at November 15, 2006 12:55 PM

@sikhy

Muslims are VERY POLITICAL. They just don't join organizations unless they can dominate them and manipulate and take them over in order to spread the violent, debased creed of that fiend Mohammad (may his name and his memory be erased from the earth. Amen.)

Any American converting to Islam is a dangerous psychopath. An enemy of the state. Worse than a congenital Muslim who doesn't know any better.

SHAME ON YOU. ALLAH (The Almighty and not the Muslim Idol)CURSES YOU!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 15, 2006 12:57 PM

A little on track/a little off track.

What would happen if we 'free loving Americans' were to post every article or speech that is made or printed for say a one week period made by muslims here in America. The catch would be to change every word for islam, allah, etc. and flip it to 'Christian, God, Jesus', and then post them.

The articles would recieve so much attention and rage, there would be accusations of 'hate crimes' and 'incitement'. When the rage is on fire point out these are muslim articles/speechs and we just flipped the words representing the religion.

We could even do the same with the incoming Democrats and their articles and speeches already cozying up to islam.

Posted by: alaskan1000 at November 15, 2006 12:59 PM

Assalamau Laikum all,

I think that Sharia is inevitable in the Amerkie in the future provided other catastrophic (for Islam) events do not take place.

Only the muslim can spoil it for himself....it is there for him only to lose...the Amerike can play a small part in it too. No doubt there will be several tilting points all of which will be ably assisted by the Pelosis and the Hillarys et al.

However, I think that the Hillarys will assist in tempering the "Saudi" version of it...in particular, lunds like this Muhammed on this program need to go onto the back burner....period.

For stability, what we will need is some pieces of Sharia and some pieces of the current Amerike laws...to have a sort of a mix...for in 20 years the majority of peoples will be wuslims in the Amerike...but the indeginious minority musn't be forgetten in this process.

Your daughters/grandaughters input into this new integrated sharia will be crucial, in particular to ensure that a Meharab (male escort) or the veil or the limit of womens not being able to travel more than 40 miles away from home cannot be enforcable.

However I can see the Hijab and Jilbab coming into play...well you have to give and take a little.

Also I can see the marrige rule of 4 womens to 1 man coming in, since your own womens do such a pathetic job of having adequate childrens for the future.

Loudspeakers onto so many of the converted churches will definately be in ..as will praying 5 times...however I think you must fight hard to keep the religious police off the streets...they can be a pain ...in more ways than one.

Certainly the holy month and EID celebrations will be widspread...throughout the Amerike.

Unversity panels must have Islamic thinkers onboard as well as traditionilists...to keep this tight integration on line... a bit of give and take all the way down the line.

If this happens in the Amerike...it will happen globally very soon after...there maybe peace after all.

Peoples ...please don't worry so much...the next coupla generations may find it hard going...but the Amerike are great at adapting.....

accept that Islam and sharia will be coming to the Amerike...just ensure that it is of the wuslim (western) brand...adapt a little.

Posted by: Naseem at November 15, 2006 1:05 PM

alaskan1000,

The tables could certainly be turned on Judaism and Christianity but why? Christian and Jewish fundamentalists are largely muzzled to such a degree that if they flinch, they are targets of ridicule and rejection.

Not so when Muslims state their fundamental intentions. Damn good question/thought experiment.

Posted by: Quantum Infidel at November 15, 2006 1:05 PM

These pukes are nothing but an Islamic spin off of "Spanky and the Our Gang's He Man Woman Haters Club."

They all look like dainty little silky boys.....Except for the one bearded, morbidly obese picket sign carrier in their group that puts one in mind of Iraqi fat boy Muqtada al Sadr.

They look like rodeo cown college drop outs.....

Posted by: DCWatson at November 15, 2006 1:09 PM

Beggin your pardon for my cheap keyboard: Rodeo clown college dropouts.

Posted by: DCWatson at November 15, 2006 1:11 PM

Assalamau Laikum sikhy,

Why do you have a handle like "sikhy". The implication is that you are/were a follower of the Sikh faith....is this true?

I cannot see sikhs converting to Islam easily...seeing as how their ancestors and gurus paid the ultimate sacrfice to keep thier religion and keep Islamic imperilism away from the door of the hindu?

What's really going on here sikhy....who are you really ?

Posted by: Naseem at November 15, 2006 1:12 PM

Naseem,

Pay attention - something catastrophic IS happening to Islam. I state that your god does not exist and I can provide ample evidence to this fact.

I have no problem challenging the very existence of your god and I'm am only one of millions. think what youy like about me but you cannot get beyond people like me without first providing absolute proof that your god is real.

I profess with absolute certainty that Allah has never existed and has no power over this universe...or any other theoretical universe for that matter.

So far this universe looks exactly as it would had no god been involved. Nowhere in any of the four forces that describe the mechanism of this whole universe is there room or equation for "allah".

Yap all you like - your god has no power and you have no proof to back up your intention.

Posted by: Quantum Infidel at November 15, 2006 1:12 PM

I wonder how can an American, who enjoys by far the most enlightened constitution, charter of rights etc. can tolerate anyone advocating the imposition of any theocratic rule. The mere fact that pro choice, anti death penalty, pro gay marriage liberals, which will be the first casualty of such rule can form alliance with those who want to see US under Islamic flag is disgusting. I wonder how Robert or Hugh will predict the future of US.
Please Please Americans, for the sake of the humanity, please realize that American constitution and democracy represent the peak of human civilization, it is the temple of all that which is good for all the humanity, please do not denigrate it for the sake of money, oil, power etc. by tolerating the elements which attack them. I know there has to be religious tolerance, it should be, but not at the price of constitution.

Posted by: pagan at November 15, 2006 1:12 PM

@Naseem-

You wrote some wise words:

"I think that Sharia is inevitable in the Amerkie in the future provided other catastrophic (for Islam) events do not take place."

The key is: "provided other catastrophic (for Islam) events do not take place."

Habiibi, between now and your future wet dream, Muslims will continue to kill and kill and kill and kill. There will be thousands of "catastrophic" Muslim acts.

America will wake up finally and outlaw Islam, inshallah!

Europe is doomed by Islam, but The New World will be saved. Manifest destiny, habiibi!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 15, 2006 1:15 PM

Yankiedoodle2 is right. For an American who has had numerous opportunities and freedom, to turn to islam there has to be something wrong in his brain.

Of course, islam fits well with criminals, the koran is full of verses fulfilling a criminals dream. They can rape, kill, be a pedophile and enslave. And it's all sanctioned by their "religion".

Then there are the guys that convert because they are guaranteed a wife and lots of sex. I'm sure there are a lot of muslims with daughters that are used as bait. They (converts) don't have to put out an effort to wine and dine, remember birthdays, anniversaries, keep her up in the latest styles. She doesn't even HAVE TO LIKE HIM!! She just has to lay still so he'll be happy!

How's that for a happy homelife? He doesn't have to worry about her meeting other men, because he can tell her to stay at home, and stay covered.

Look at what he's gained by joining islam. More importantly , I look at what he's lost....his HONOR.

Posted by: freewoman at November 15, 2006 1:17 PM

Sharia law?
Let’s compare France, heading towards sharia, and the USA. They are polar opposites. In France the cities are ringed by muslim ghettos. In America the the cities are ringed by suburbs. What is in the suburbs? Well if you ever saw the movie The Burbs, imagine that w/o the wimpiness and armed to the teeth. Yeah, good luck with that guys.

Posted by: tgusa at November 15, 2006 1:20 PM

@freewoman

You write:

"She just has to lay still so he'll be happy!"

And she will "lay still" because the Muslim degenerate has cut her clitoris out!

Sorry to be offensive, but Islam is OFFENSIVE.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 15, 2006 1:20 PM

I agree Ynkedoodl2.....sorry about misspelling your name!

Posted by: freewoman at November 15, 2006 1:24 PM

tgusa-

You hit the nail on the head. Uncommonly swift "justice" for McVeigh.

I recommend http://www.jaynadavis.com/ to anyone who buys the line that McVeigh and Nichols came up with and executed OKC all on their own.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at November 15, 2006 1:31 PM

I can't wait for the day I finally see someone say on the Nightly News: "And here we have a video of a crowd of American patriots jeering at members of the Islamic Thinkers Society on the streets of Manhattan."

(I'm able to visualize this because this kind of event is most common anytime some Nazis gather in a park and try to be heard.)

Posted by: Foehammer at November 15, 2006 1:34 PM

Re: Naseem...

If there were an audio of those posts, Naseems would come out sounding like Charlie Brown's teacher. Wah wah wah wah, wah wah wah wah...

Scroll past the troll and get to the thinking man's posts!

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at November 15, 2006 1:37 PM

I know it is not my imagination. Islamic infilatration has stepped up dramatically in the last few weeks. The question is this: Who do we organize around? Who is our leader? How do we make our voices heard? How do we stop Islamists from pushing their agenda? I see no organization, we must protest with our signs, before it is too late.

Posted by: Kay at November 15, 2006 1:43 PM

@kay

Keep learning about the evil of Islam. Keep reading and reading. Spread the word. Check bookstores to make sure Spencer's books are available, and if sold out, on order.

The other night, I checked my Barnes and Noble. No Spencer "The Truth About Mohammad" on the bookshelf. I asked the nice friendly workers. They checked. It was sold out. Six copies were on order.

"Would you like to reserve a copy," they asked.
"No," I said. "I have it already. I'm just checking because I have read on the internet about clerks burying the books where no one can find them.

They were shocked to hear that. A discussion ensued. Strangers and others joined our conversation. I told the clerks and bystanders straight up about my Islamophobia and not only were they cool, they were fascinated. I sold four of Spencer's books on the spot.

A small effort but it brought me real satisfaction.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 15, 2006 1:54 PM

The waiter told me that they will be removing it soon because in one month they only collected some 10 euros or less (and we are close to christmas!!!).

Posted by: StillFedUp at November 15, 2006 02:08 PM

That's 11 euros too many. I'm sure those generous ones in Saudi Arabia will send over a little money.

Not!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 15, 2006 2:16 PM

I am a Muslim who does not want to see Shari'a instituted in amerika although if i had to choose between the atheistic constitution and a mild sharia i'd choose the latter although i detest all forms of authority other than Allah and a conscious guided by Allah and Love...that is why Islam is such a threat because it removes any recognition of authority founded by man and replaces it with Allah's will...just like Jesus said (he was a Submitter too) not my will but thine be done (Lk22) and " they will be done on earth as it is in heaven"

Posted by: sikhy at November 15, 2006 2:24 PM

There are no Islamic "thinkers." What is in a name anyway?

Truthfully, there are only Muslim garbagemouths that cling to the Kuran's vile teachings and regurgitate them publicly.

Boy, talk about truth in advertising (or the lack thereof)!

ps-those bastards should be shot on sight!

Posted by: pythagoras at November 15, 2006 2:34 PM

It really is so simple that you almost don’t see it. It is the greatest pick-up trick in history. It is an ideology that assures Men that they will have no trouble “getting chicks”. It is all about sex. That explains the dozen wives, the bargaining over women, the 72 virgins. In the West we must go out and find women and convince them to like us. They just wait for their cousin to reach 5 or so and make a deal, you know, a half a dozen goats, two roosters and a donkey for the girl. The lack of rights, the second class citizen rules are all used to keep them in a never ending supply of Women. They are actually hogging all the Women and we should be mad.

Muslim Women in America,
In America there is a thing called the Woman’s Suffrage movement.
Yes, in the beginning they didn’t have any rights either.
Visit this site and find out when it started.
http://www.uen.org/themepark/liberty/womenssuffrage.shtml

Posted by: tgusa at November 15, 2006 3:12 PM

Also I can see the marrige rule of 4 womens to 1 man coming in, since your own womens do such a pathetic job of having adequate childrens for the future.

Naseems then your only worth half a muslim halfwit, you just had two kids...and since your a widow, you are a useless human debris. wake up naseems. We in the West will bomb your pakiland back to the stone age.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at November 15, 2006 3:16 PM

(Matthew 5:17-18) "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. {18} "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

That, sikhy, is notice that the 10 Commandments are to be obeyed.
http://www.biblepicturegallery.com/free/Pics/10_Comm.gif

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 15, 2006 3:19 PM

I think if you pay attention to the war-manual, er,I mean the qur'an, the 10 Commandments are broken on virtually every page.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 15, 2006 3:21 PM

Naseem says "Also I can see the marrige rule of 4 womens to 1 man coming in ..."

FOUR MOTHER-IN-LAWS!!!!

For that alone, I would fight islam to the death.

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at November 15, 2006 3:21 PM

Since we American women have the same rights as men, that means Naseem is worth half that of an American woman.

Hmm.

Posted by: freewoman at November 15, 2006 3:24 PM

Naseem,

When is the ISI going to put up the firewalls between Pakistan and the rest of the world? It seems like it should have been done by now.

Does anyone know when Pakistan will cut Naseem's connection to the outside world?

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at November 15, 2006 3:24 PM

We in the West will bomb your pakiland back to the stone age.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
----------------------------------------

Can't wait to see the movie of this: "Jurrasic Pak"

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at November 15, 2006 3:41 PM

@sicky:

your wrote:
"that is why Islam is such a threat because it removes any recognition of authority founded by man and replaces it with Allah's will"

Islam is the WILL of the Devil Mohammmad, the Fiend, Rapist, Murderer, Pirate, may his name and memory be erased from the earth. Amen.

Mohammad is burning in Hell.

Islam is not the will of God.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 15, 2006 3:45 PM

the islamic free thinkers society are nazis. They could shoot off their mouth's all they want, but when they start with violent crap, they will be history, real quick!

I wanna see you , islamo nazis try to implement your nazi crap here in the united states. You will be dealt with accordingly.

We don't put up with that crap and we never will.

Posted by: callmeinfidel at November 15, 2006 4:37 PM

Islamic Thinkers Society, which has threatened my life in the past (calls for Allah to torture someone are calls for his followers to do so), calling for Sharia law in the U.S."-

OVER MY DEADBODY they will implement Sharia Law in the US:

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at November 15, 2006 5:11 PM

callmeinfidel,

"We don't put up with that crap and we never will."

Seems to me that crap is happening right now in USA, Canada, Europe, Aus and they ARE getting away with it! Not to mention it (that crap)is growing day by day.

Will we all ever truly wake up?

Posted by: sounder at November 15, 2006 5:36 PM

A Ditty on a Rainy Afternoon

sikhy is a hickey on the face
of the moon god 'religion'
of allah who said
to gabriel who said
to mohammed who said
that women were inferior to men,
and then said that infidels
belong in a fiery hell
and the devil lives in your nose.
mohammedanism is for those
who want to live in an animal swarm,
never thinking for themselves and the harm
they cause by rape, theft and murder,
their holy jihad, and hating all others.
Yes sikhy is one of those muslim brothers.

Posted by: the poetess at November 15, 2006 5:47 PM

Nassem posted : Assalamau Laikum DP111. Absolutely spot on....I don't have much faith in entering paradise...at least not the 72 virgin lies. This is simply what some ancient imam said to spur peoples to lay their life on the line....I I don't belive in it.

Thank you Nasseem for an honest reply. But I do have a bone to pick with you. What is this Assalamu etc. On an English language website, I feel it is good manners to confine yourself to Greetings, or some other readily understood message, if that is, it is necessary at all.

On the question of your entry to Allah's paradise, I was not thinking of 72 virgins to cavort with. You brought that up. But I applaud your honesty that you have no faith in entering Allah's paradise. Why do you feel this way?

Posted by: DP111 at November 15, 2006 6:42 PM

I agree with tgusa. Yes, this psychosis called Islam is related to sex, but not directly. I think it has more to do with the absolute fear -- no TERROR-- of women in that culture. Every law, every social "norm", every religious practice, every little rule and reg down to whiping your behind, covering up women in sacks, and female mutilation has more to do about fear of women anything else. How else to explain this mental diseases? Fear of Allah? No, fear of females!

Look at the dysfunctional culture you get: multiple wives, dozens of children, meaningless divorce, no family leadership, abuse of wives, and on and on? Everyone is on welfare, can't work, doesn't know how to tie their shoes. How would ANYONE grow up normal in that type of family? And there are BILLIONS of them.

I had heard indirectly about a book a psychologist was writing but could not publish because publishers WON'T publish it. I could be wrong, but I thought she might have been a profiler at the CIA or FBI, and her book was about the psychotic affects of the Islamic family and the resulting jihadi mentality of their offspring. This is of course coupled with the 7th c. pedophile and murder-worship ranting, and here you have the complete Satanic cult deconstructed for all to see.

The complete subjugation of women is due to Islamic ummah's terror of them. (Did you ever read the commentary about women?!!) Well, all I can say, if they are terrified of their own women, let the Islama-losers come to NY and try to get a woman over here to wear a burlap bag. Burkha--NOT! Maybe Hillary will be the only woman wearing one....but maybe she needs to. Mmm...not a pretty one there.

Posted by: Pershing at November 15, 2006 6:48 PM

Nassem posted: I cannot see sikhs converting to Islam easily...seeing as how their ancestors and gurus paid the ultimate sacrfice to keep thier religion and keep Islamic imperilism away from the door of the hindu?

Your guess that Sikhy is a convert to Islam from Sikhism may well be right. I also cannot see Sikhs converting to Islam. In the UK, Sikhs quite openly side with the BNP, such is their antipathy to Islam and Muslims. Something has gone really wrong with Sikhy if what you say is right.

And you are quite right about Islamic imperialism.

Keep on posting Nassem. Your posts are what is required.

Posted by: DP111 at November 15, 2006 6:51 PM

What do you call a person who openly endorses racism/sexism/religious bigotry?
Not a friend of Mankind that’s for sure. I think sick individual sums it up.
Wake up indeed, write your Rep. let them know how you feel.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/11/dhimmicrats_emb.html

Posted by: tgusa at November 15, 2006 6:53 PM

sikhy what are you an inbred muslim? your saying that islam "i detest all forms of authority other than Allah and a conscious guided by Allah and Love...that is why Islam is such a threat because it removes any recognition of authority founded by man and replaces it with Allah's will.."

hey cannot you read the koran, where do you see all the love? and the koran was made up by what the child molester muhammud dreamed up! you know the saintly mohummud who had sex with a child, took his son's wife! mohummud was a thief, child rapist, murderer, and you want to follow that monster? where the hell is your brain, what its been fried by the words of the koran... wake up man, islam is evil, you need to leave it now, and maybe become a Hindu, Jew, Shik, Christian, Budhist, anything but a brain dead muslim.. join the human race and leave islam now!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at November 15, 2006 7:22 PM

Pershing,
Take some time and research former serial killers motives. Almost every one of them had sexual hang-ups of some sort. Gacy=young boys, Bundy, young women, Ramirez=married couples, and on and on. I can’t think of one who didn’t have some kind of twisted sexual mentality.

I have noticed, the trolls disappear as soon as the “S” word is mentioned along with the “I” word. Hmmmm.

Posted by: tgusa at November 15, 2006 7:38 PM

This "Naseem" person is an odd creature to be sure. "She" acknowldges that Mohammad was a sexual pervert and that portions of the Koran make absolutely NO sense when applied to what we know as true today regarding science and other disciplines of education; yet, she STILL comes here and does her damnedest to propagate Islam's insane ideals. She's honest enough reveal her uncertaintly about Islam, yet is still brainwashed in her insistance that it is a "perfect religion."

I see in "Naseem" the perfect representative of modern Islam's obvious delemma where it tries to meld real physical reality with the fairy tale nonsense that ol' Mo dreamed up 1400 years ago. Mo's obviously was a horny, perverted child molester, yet he was the last and greatest "prophet of God." There are obvious contradictions and outright BS spoken within the pages of the Koran, yet it is the perfect and final word from the almighty creator of the universe.

I get the feeling sometimes that "Naseem" is hoping that somebody will tell her that it's okay to let go of her phoney "religion," because there won't be any dire consequences if she does so. Inside she knows there is nothing "holy" about Islam. She knows Mohammad was a sick, twisted pervert, and that the words that come from the Koran is also perversion, but she's too scared to throw out something that she's invested her whole life into. She's also afraid of what will happen to her if the Islamic AUTHORITIES hear about it. (And do you blame her?)

Posted by: yohannbiimu at November 15, 2006 7:40 PM

Somehow I don't see MENSA being challenged by these "thinkers". However, I'd love to see how they'd score on an IQ test devoid of any questions connected to Islam.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 15, 2006 7:59 PM

This is what this guy will be met with if he tries to tell me I can't go outside without some man's permission and that I can't go out unless I'm in a Hefty bag.

http://thumbnails.theplatform.com.edgesuite.net/Court_TV/16/737/Youcallthataknife.mp4

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 15, 2006 11:53 PM

USA needs Islam
Uncle Sam has reneged and defaulted on up to 40% of its trillion-dollar foreign debt, and nobody has said a word except for a line in The Economist. In plain English that means Uncle Sam runs a worldwide confidence racket with his self-made dollar based on the confidence that he has elicited and received from others around the world, and he is a also a deadbeat in that he does not honor and return the money he has received.

Posted by: Ramon at November 15, 2006 11:53 PM

I think that Sharia is inevitable in the Amerkie in the future provided other catastrophic (for Islam) events do not take place. "

the only thing inevitable is the next earthquake shaking pakistan and letting you join your dead husband in muslim hell.
StillFedUp

I'm laughing very hard, which is nice. There's not too much to laugh about these days! Your comment is just hilarious to me; thanks for the humor.

Posted by: Susanp at November 16, 2006 12:22 AM

So Ramon, are you saying we need this? And how do you explain this in your peaceful religion of Islam? Isn't Hasanuddin really saying that the devil (allah) made him do it?

November 15, 2006
Indonesia: Muslim admits beheading Christian girls

"But we did it because authorities did nothing against massacres of Muslims." Oh come off it, Hasanuddin. I take it these three Christian teenage girls were at fault for doing nothing against alleged massacres of Muslims?

Deflection of Responsibility Alert from AP, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:

A suspected Islamic militant told judges Wednesday he took part in the beheadings of three Christian girls on an Indonesian island wracked by sectarian violence because he wanted to avenge the deaths of Muslims.

Hasanuddin told the Central Jakarta District Court he and two other men were "involved" in the October 2005 attack on the girls as they walked to school on Sulawesi island, the scene of interfaith battles that left at least 1,000 people dead from 1998 to 2002.

Those interfaith battles, of course, were unprovoked jihad attacks on Christians by mujahedin.

"I was indeed involved in the beheadings," Hasanuddin, who like many Indonesians goes by only one name, told the court. "But we did it because authorities did nothing against massacres of Muslims."

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 16, 2006 12:26 AM

USA needs Islam
Uncle Sam has reneged and defaulted on up to 40% of its trillion-dollar foreign debt, and nobody has said a word except for a line in The Economist. In plain English that means Uncle Sam runs a worldwide confidence racket with his self-made dollar based on the confidence that he has elicited and received from others around the world, and he is a also a deadbeat in that he does not honor and return the money he has received.

Posted by: Ramon at November 15, 2006 11:53 PM

Where did you get your degree in Economics? It is obvious that you do not have the slightest understanding of trade deficits and foreign debt. Do you have any idea how much money the United STates contributes to the worthless United Nations and dozens of third-world countries, mainly islamic hellholes? The US has not "reneged" on any debt and we have the strongest economy in the world. I am personally concerned about our trade deficits, but there are conflicting opinions among respected economists regarding this issue and they understand it better than I, certainly better than you.

If the United States wasn't expected to play the role of world watchdog and policeman, if we hadn't protected Europe and Korea from the communists for over fifty years; and if we weren't expected to send our military forces to the ends of the earth to save starving refugees and help earthquake/tsunami/natural disaster victims; etc. etc. etc., maybe there would be more money in the federal coffers. There was also 9-11 and the ensuing expenses required to protect ourselves from rabid muslims, billions of dollars for "homeland" security. If it weren't for muslims, we would be immensely richer.

Whatever we might owe in foreign debt is small change compared to what we have donated to dozens of countries throughout the world. Our "charity" is seldom appreciated and rarely reciprocated. Islam is a recipe for misery, destitution, slavery, and economic disaster. If islam is so damn wonderful, explain why the islamic world is a stagnated, medieval hellhole, even the oil rich nations. Islam creates poverty and destroys everything it touches. Islam is a death cult.

Posted by: Susanp at November 16, 2006 12:48 AM

muslim males can think since when i though the onlt brain they had is the two 0umpkin seed sized ones in there scrotum

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 16, 2006 1:50 AM

Assalamau Laikum DP111

You say "I do have a bone to pick with you. What is this Assalamu etc. On an English language website, I feel it is good manners to confine yourself to Greetings".

DP111, I'll try to be honest....As you may know "Assalaamu Laikum" is a greeting (wishing peace) to fellow muslims or potential converts, I regard all readers here as potential converts...including Mr Spencer and Hugh. I use it as part of my Dawa...as ordained to me by Allah to offer to you....from the Koran.

You ask "On the question of your entry to Allah's paradise, I was not thinking of 72 virgins to cavort with. You brought that up. But I applaud your honesty that you have no faith in entering Allah's paradise. Why do you feel this way"?

This is an excellent excellent question...and is at the heart of why must muslims behave in a vile mannner....but is also why I remain a muslim. Crack this one and we are home and dry...I'll try and be as honest as I can.

Most muslims are willing to cut your head off if even a single sura of the koran is questioned. But the truth is that 10s of suras need to be questioned...and Islam needs to be modernised by scrapping a lot of them.

Muslims need to be honest for example about "the sun setting inm muddy waters"...I mean it's just NOT TRUE is it....muslims also need to address some of the violence in the Koran. I tend to skip the ones I don't like.....as I don't want to believe in them....I believe honestly that this makes me a better muslim.

So, I still believe in Islam...for I fervently belive in many of the abrograted earlier suras which were peaceful....muslims Sikhy, Ramon...can you tell me ....Why were they abrogated?...what was wrong with them....Nothing much as I see it.

72 virgins for a suicide bomber is a myth..., if it were true...10s of millions would go for it...instead of a few thousand...why? because most muslims in their "heart of hearts"...(because that's where you have to look to forfeit your life) ...don't WANT to believe it either. Ramon...some clever obese mullah many centuaries dreamed up this lie ...for you to lay your life down while watching with satisfaction from the sidelines....

This violent jihad farce has to stop...or it will engulf us all...Ramon...innocent muslims will suffer the greatest...in this exchange.

I won't be putting my life for (this form) of Islam anytime soon....however I believe in the earlier peaceful suras...and is why I remain a muslim....to try and convince Ramon...and sicky of sticking tio the earlier suras...for yes I belive in paradise....but only by living an honest family life and charity for others....and I do believe in dawa...tremondusly...it is the conerstone of getting the right message from Allah to the corrupt Kafur...who refuses to believe in Allah SWT.

Posted by: Naseem at November 16, 2006 3:06 AM

Folks, yes last night I did see the Glen Beck special presentation on the jihad. I am not suprised that he would bring a Muslim thinker in because if he was as blunt as what is said here, remember that his show is on CNN, he would must likely be canned.

And once again, the fastest growing faith is the Christian faith, with the evangelicals leading the pack in spreading it. Expect more missionaries from the global south going to the west to re-Christianize it.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 16, 2006 6:28 AM

This why America needs Islam

Feel free to spread the following rant everywhere, it makes for a good arguement against some idiotic Amerikans....

In a country where the poor and old cannot afford health care, in a country where the economy is falling apart, in a country where 44 million people live on less than $12,000 dollars a year, in a nation where 5 million people are homeless, in a country where the entire media system is owned by only six media mega conglomerates, in a nation with the highest crime rate, in a country with the world's largest prison population, in a society where 60% of marriages end in divorce, in a country where 25% of kids under 12 live in poverty, in a country that cut 25 billion dollars out of veterans benefits to help pay for a new war, in a country where the gulf between the rich and poor is growing everyday, in a nation that supports dictatorships in Saudi, Egypt and Turkey, in a country where the government is full of corruption, in a country with the world's highest teen suicide and stress rates, and you're telling me our biggest problems are TERRORISM and DRUGS? BULL*&^%!

Posted by: Ramon at November 16, 2006 9:49 AM

"This why America needs Islam"

No, rather America needs to come home to its Jewish/Christian roots. This is the best way to fight the culture of death inside or outside of the USA.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 16, 2006 11:51 AM

This is why Islam needs America.

Feel free to spread the following rant everywhere, it makes for a good arguement against some idiotic Muslims...

In a religion where the economy is falling apart, in a religion where death is revered, in a religion where women are treated like dogs and dogs are treated like rats. In a religion where slavery is considered natural as air, in a religion where women can be traded for cars and camels are treated better than camel jockeys. In a religion where minorities, Christian, Jews, different sects are persecuted regularly. In a religion that considers a black and a slave to be synonymous, in a religion where ‘charity’ doesn’t mean money for the poor but donations to terrorist organizations. In a religion that doesn’t bat an eye to a man marrying a girl as young as his great- granddaughter but howls with indignation when a woman’s hair is revealed. In a religion where rape VICTIMS are punished by death, in a religion where a small and powerful elite (often royal) controls everything. In a religion where women of other faiths are free game, but still attacks their precious ‘covered meat' women at every opportunity. A religion whose ideal was a man who raped, tortured murdered and stole. A religion in the words of Winston Churchill is “the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

Posted by: JadeDragoness at November 16, 2006 12:07 PM

America: Morally bankrupt, that's why they need Islam

In the United States, approximately one in five women will be raped in her lifetime, and in Israel, one in three women will be sexually assaulted. Even more shocking, in America, one in five girls and one in seven boys will be
victims of child sexual abuse before they reach the age of 18.

http://www.hadassah.org/education/content/vio_woman_rape.html

Posted by: Ramon at November 16, 2006 12:31 PM

If I was ever raped the very LEAST my society would do would be to call the authorities and have them investigate to the best of their abilities, find a suspect charge him and send him to jail for as long as possible. If he ever got out he'd be forced to register as a sex offender and live with that his entire life.

I'm not going to even try to get statistics on rapes in Islamic countries because as far as they're concerned rape and incest doesn't happen, it's the woman's fault and she dutifully beaten or executed by the Islamic authorities. However here's some interesting news from countries where Muslims are currently invading and infesting. Oh look a rape wave! Isn’t that coincidental?

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/12/immigrant-rape-wave-in-sweden.html

Posted by: JadeDragoness at November 16, 2006 12:54 PM

"America: Morally bankrupt, that's why they need Islam"

America is better off coming home to its Jewish/Christian moral roots.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 16, 2006 2:19 PM

Naseem,

I am normally a level-headed poster, and would in no way wish to embarrass Robert or Hugh, but honestly, my gut reaction to your first post was, "f**k you".

In your second post, you write 'muslims also need to address some of the violence in the Koran. I tend to skip the ones I don't like.....as I don't want to believe in them...'

Bingo! As I suspected, many "moderate Muslims" have their heads in the sand (or elsewhere), wishing away what they dare not know about Islam.

And if you really feel that 'the truth is that 10s of suras need to be questioned...and Islam needs to be modernised by scrapping a lot of them', are you speaking up publicly? I doubt it.

It's cowardardly behaviors like those which will cost many lives, probably within both "worlds".

And for those of you posting here who maintain that you will NEVER let Islam prevail in America, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. My greatest fear is that my countrymen will not arise to the challenge.

Posted by: Vee at November 16, 2006 8:09 PM

Glen Beck had a clip of the "Muhammad" character on his show tonight. His entire interview with the guy is on his website:

http://www.glennbeck.com/home/index.shtml

He will have Benjamin Netanyahu on for the full hour tomorrow night. Please spread the word; Netahyahu is probably Israel's most articulate, believable spokesperson right now. More American's need to hear what he has to say - and he speaks from intimate experience of what we (the Western world) is faced with.

Posted by: Vee at November 16, 2006 8:13 PM

I dare I.T.S. to take their public charade to the deep south. I guarantee you they'd never make it back up to the Mason-Dixon, except maybe dragged there behind a vehicle. There will never be Sharia in the south. And NO, most people in the south are NOT evangelicals, just good, honest, god-fearing, red-blooded Americans.

Funny how the (mostly ignorant) Muslims think that the general population of America resides in the NY (tri-state)area. Step outside your little comfort zone there and experience what the rest of the country things about you.

Most of the country IS "armed-to-the-teeth". Good luck to them on that fight.
Yes, please come to the "Burbs"!!!

Posted by: MohammedWasAterrorist at November 16, 2006 8:19 PM

Islam is not a religion in the common, distorted meaning of the word, confining its scope only to the private life of man. By saying that it is a complete way of life, we mean that it caters for all the fields of human existence. In fact, Islam provides guidance for all walks of life - individual and social, material and moral, economic and political, legal and cultural, national and international.

Posted by: Ramon at November 17, 2006 12:24 PM

America needs to return to its Jewish/Christian roots.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 18, 2006 7:51 PM