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And Ibrahim Hooper is thrilled. I have already posted my article containing some of this incredible exchange (thanks to PRCS for sending it in), but I thought it deserved its own thread.
MSNBC was ready for this -- they have a graphic with the salient quote from Parks in the middle of this segment.
Here is the section from my article:
None of these questions about Shahin surfaced in the mainstream media. Instead, MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer compared the imams to Rosa Parks, offering a grateful Ibrahim Hooper a “defense that could be used for these imams”: the possibility that in refusing to get off the plane, as some unconfirmed reports held, the imams were engaged in an act of civil disobedience. Hooper suggested that even if this were not an act of civil disobedience, “it may come to that in the future, where people are just fed up and they say, ‘No, I am not going to be vulnerable to anybody’s stereotyping and bias, and their hysteria based on fear and prejudice, and I’m not going to give up my seat.’ Boy, it’ll be interesting to see what happens in that case.” Kenneth Quinn, general counsel for the Aviation Security Administration, spoke against the appropriateness of civil disobedience on airplanes, but called the incident “regrettable” and spoke of what he called the “But For Test:” “But for the person’s religious orientation in this case, would they have taken the security procedures that they actually took? And here I think it’s questionable. We’ll have to look at all the facts, but you don’t want to single people out on unfounded fears or through racial or gender or religious bias. In the post-9/11 environment, we have to really be careful about not singling people out and taking them off of airplanes.”
Posted by Robert at November 22, 2006 10:44 AM
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Rosa Parks????? Please Jihad Watch stop it-you're killing me with laughter with this story.
I guess that makes Iblis Hooper Martin Luther King.
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at November 22, 2006 10:53 AM
What's wrong with taking precautions? I'd rather see these imams taken off airplanes than a new 9/11.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 22, 2006 10:55 AM
With the mindset of so many Westerners, we are doomed.
Posted by: CaptainGrevious at November 22, 2006 10:58 AM
Muslims should be put on a no fly list.
Posted by: freewoman at November 22, 2006 11:01 AM
How about passing out pig masks at boarding time?
Make it a requirement for flying-anyone refusing to comply won't be allowed on board (and is probably a member of the peaceful ones).
at November 22, 2006 11:07 AM
This was no big problem. They did'nt need to take them off the plane, everyone was perfectly safe. These gutless wonders do not blow themselves up for Allah, they get some other mindless shlub to do it for them. Come to think of it, how do the puppetmasters get thier 72 virgins? hmmmm?
Posted by: TEXROCK at November 22, 2006 11:07 AM
No, seriously:
What would happen if Rosa Parks said refused to wear a veil, or to go the the "female" half of the store or mosque or defy any other islamic law or "virtue"
Seen the afghan/iranian/saudi "thought police"?
Think again. Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King and all civil liberties are CONTRARY to islam. Mentioning them as anything but contrary to islam is outrageous.
Posted by: Excommie at November 22, 2006 11:21 AM
Rosa Parks couldn't change the color of her skin...
Islamonazism is a choice!!!
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at November 22, 2006 11:28 AM
Kenneth Quinn, general counsel for the Aviation Security Administration,"In the post-9/11 environment, we have to really be careful about not singling people out and taking them off of airplanes.”
WHAT!! Fire this dude. What does he mean by THAT.
We should be making SURE that we are singling out people. What a bunch of sick dopes. Why is everybody so afraid of offending someone?
I'll tell you, this country needs to get tough.
Our demise is picking up speed and size like a snowball rolling down a hill. I'd like to know how people like this get jobs in positions of authority.
Geesh, were palying right into the terrorists hands. And the problem is alot of us see it but cant do a damn thing to stop it.
If we were to crack down on this type of thing,
the enemy would stop trying it and would try another way. We need people in power who can see this and stay one step ahead of them. Which is not hard to do if you have half a brain cell in your head (He he, my dad used to say that)
at November 22, 2006 11:32 AM
"Thanks a lot government."
Posted by: americaningermany
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No, thank Nancy Pelosi instead. She's the one who wants to make it illegal. I can't believe how stupid she is. She's making it easier for terrorists to fly airplanes into buildings.
Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 22, 2006 11:56 AM
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000931.html
Contessa would look just great in a burqa. And Hoopster is going for the "I'm just an American", no beanie.
What a dumb broad that Contessa is, Rosa Parks indeed.
at November 22, 2006 12:00 PM
Above: "SNACK ATTACK
How about we all carry rolled up strips of raw bacon in our pockets should we have to defend ourselves in future civil disobedience schemes gone haywire?"
HARAM!!!!
The Feds would through you straight into CAIR's version of Abu Graib for 200 years of 'sensitivity awareness training'.
Posted by: Alex at November 22, 2006 12:09 PM
Another classic C&F
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000919.html
at November 22, 2006 12:12 PM
Wow. What a stunning insult to the memory of Rosa Parks, comparing her to this group of imams. Contessa Brewer, do you want Sharia law? Really? Cuz your helping to bring it on, useful idiot.
at November 22, 2006 12:13 PM
The airline companies were partly responsible for 9-11 their policies of handing over the aircraft enabled the 9-11 killers. They should have, at the time, been sued by everyone on the ground that they killed or endangered. They were bailed out and therefore no lesson was learned. Here they are doing it again. They have destroyed our freedom of movement, turned it into a nightmare. The only thing that will stop them is when we all refuse to purchase a ticket. Put off your vacation plans, do any work you can online, until they are brought to their knees. Money is the only language they understand. The minor inconvenience of not flying is better than a repeat of 9-11. Forget about this woman and her kind, she knows her destiny and accepts it wholeheartedly.
Rosa Parks? Anyone familiar with what they think of her particular race in islam?
at November 22, 2006 12:18 PM
This contessa brewer character needs a trip to arabia or iran to see if she REALLY wants to be treated the same way they treat thier women.
Posted by: squire at November 22, 2006 12:18 PM
Contessa, your appointment for a burkha fitting will be tomorrow at 9am. Refresher course on Rosa Parks at 10am. After lunch you can pick up your "Infidel Reporter of the Week" award at CAIR headquarters. Looks like you're going to have a busy day! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .idiot.
Posted by: Muzzl'em at November 22, 2006 12:40 PM
Why do muslims think they are above the law? Why do muslims think they should get preferential treatment?
What is so special about muslims? Everyone should be treated the same and that includes scrutiny. Alot of Americans do not trust muslims. Not just because of muslims' words but by their actions and affiliations.
The problem with imams is that they never put in hard day of real work.
Posted by: callmeinfidel at November 22, 2006 12:43 PM
There used to be in the old days a most offensive statement about the need to keep women in their place, to keep them "barefoot and pregnant" -- and preferably "in the kitchen."
The article above suggests that at least one media-career girl, after such a display of holier-than-thou ignorance about a most important matter, should not only never be promoted, but cashiered at the soonest opportunity, so that she can become, for someone, somewhere, what she would be best at -- that is, a barefoot, though not necessarily pregnant, Contessa.
Posted by: Hugh at November 22, 2006 12:46 PM
If I recall correctly, under dhimmi law a non-Muslim has to give up their seat if a Muslim wants to sit down.
So presumably if Rosa Parks had lived in 'tolerant' medieval Spain, she'd have been stoned to death without us even hearing about her.
WSW
Posted by: Wild Slutty Womens at November 22, 2006 12:50 PM
Callmeinfidel, it's not just the Imams who don't work, and maybe that's why muslim society has accomplished nothing in several centuries. It's hard to get anything done when you have to face Mecca five times a day with your butt in the air.
As another poster said at another related thread
"Aloha snackbar!"
at November 22, 2006 1:13 PM
The problem with imams is that they never put in hard day of real work.
Posted by: callmeinfidel at November 22, 2006 12:43 PM
I beg to differ. These are scholars, so they are indeed busy. Once they find enough new ways to interpret the Koran to serve their own purposes they go out and make all kinds of speeches. This must be a mental strain. Look what happened to poor Hlali in Australia with his "uncovered meat" speech- would he have said such things if he wasn't overworked?
And let's not forget the average non-imam. He's working hard too-smashing churches, burning flags,
marching in the streets chanting "Death to the Great Satan" and making sure the women are kept in line. Compared to Muslims it is us infidels who have it easy.
at November 22, 2006 1:30 PM
I think the Muslims don't understand one simple fact.....
IT'S MUSLIMS WHO ARE OUT TO KILL US!!!!!!
MUSLIMS PERPETRATED 911!
get it?
so SUE us if praying Muslims in airports makes people nervous, wait, i'm sure they will.
Posted by: DUGGY at November 22, 2006 1:49 PM
their hysteria based on fear and prejudice
I fear Islam and Moslems. I am prejudiced against them. Both of my positions are well founded on undeniable reality, and are perfectly reasonable.
So long as we engage in this fantasy about Islam, ridiculous items like this are inevitable.
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Based on her sad-sack performance, is Contessa in line for a seat on The View?
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 22, 2006 1:54 PM
Brewer must be auditioning for the English service of al-Jazeera. So far, the job's in the bag.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 22, 2006 2:02 PM
It's not so much that Ms. Brewer's scriptwriter threw in the Rosa Parks/Minneapolis 6 analogy, but rather the gleeful enthusiasm with which she followed it.
That so many Americans remain clueless about Islam is, in great measure, because western politicians, newsreaders, and journalists are.
I don't know all the facts surrounding this, but I'm sure that had those six 'religious leaders' simply left the plane when requested, that US Airways would have refunded their money and made arrangements for free transportation to Phoenix; and a public apology, too.
If you look at CAIR's website, you'll see that they award Rosa Parks Civil Liberties Scholarships. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that CAIR representatives made that known to MSNBC before the interview.
Posted by: PRCS at November 22, 2006 2:13 PM
its on the left side of the homepage way way down the page where it says CONTACT US.
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 22, 2006 3:06 PM
This has to be one of the most appalling news pieces I have ever seen. To compare the deplaning of these imams to Rosa Parks.... ahh! Were black people consistently targeting innocents in murderous attacks? NO! Were these imams using the same words that terrorists use when they down planes? YES! "Allah Akbar" is associated with carrying out terrorist attacks. It is what they say when they bring planes down! Aaah!
Posted by: Kay at November 22, 2006 3:07 PM
oops pardon the above post it was meant for another thread.
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 22, 2006 3:08 PM
In the picture above, dougie looks like he's lying (his mouth is open).
Posted by: Infidel33 at November 22, 2006 3:09 PM
this Contessa illustrates well the saying that "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and she don't act like no countess!
Her ignorant arrogance is nauseating.
at November 22, 2006 3:14 PM
Here ya go Hooper
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000796.html
Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 22, 2006 3:36 PM
Where's Dougie's ridiculous beanie? Nowhere to be seen but as I suspected he's bald underneath. The Koran has a solution for every human problem. I wonder why he doesn't take the Koran's remedy for baldness
Posted by: dennisw at November 22, 2006 4:00 PM
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/05/don_imus_berates_contessa_brewer/
Imus and La Contessa --->>
DON Imus didn’t like being called “a cantankerous old fool” by MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer on PAGE SIX. Brewer, a former news reader on Imus’ show, also said the I-man doesn’t know how to relate to “beautiful women.” “With that fat ass she’s got, she wouldn’t be one of ‘em,” Imus said on the air Friday. “That skank has to spend three hours with makeup in the morning … Who’s she kidding? . . . Plus, she’s dumber than dirt … Oh, my God, what a pig. But I was willing to cut her some slack and not say anything, you know, until - in fact, I didn’t say anything . . . That’s why they have those big double-doors there at MSNBC, you know, so they can get her fat ass in makeup.” An MSNBC spokesman said: “Contessa Brewer is a valued and respected employee. While Don Imus’ humor is often brilliant and provocative, we believe that this morning’s comments about Contessa went over the line. We have expressed our displeasure to Don.”
Posted by: dennisw at November 22, 2006 4:02 PM
“But for the person’s religious orientation in this case, would they have taken the security procedures that they actually took? And here I think it’s questionable. We’ll have to look at all the facts, but you don’t want to single people out on unfounded fears or through racial or gender or religious bias. In the post-9/11 environment, we have to really be careful about not singling people out and taking them off of airplanes.”
Are our leaders schizoid?
First, we're told to be on the lookout for "suspicious" activity and to report it.
Second, what is an "unfounded fear"? This isn't September 10, 2001. Then there would have been a justifiable reaction to what seemed to be prejudice. It's a cliche, but it remains true: 9/11 changed everything.
Third, not singling people out? Don't you WANT to single out the ones who are out to do harm and let the innocent, including Muslims, go about their business in peace? Why are we requiring grandmothers in wheelchairs to be wanded?
Fourth, "But for the person’s religious orientation in this case, would they have taken the security procedures that they actually took? And here I think it’s questionable." The security procedures were necessitated by these imams' BEHAVIOR, not their religion.
The impact of terrorism on air travel (all of it caused by Muslims, BTW) means that I will be driving to my destination, rather than flying. The airlines will have two fewer paying customers this year - not because we're afraid to fly, but because it's no longer worth the hassle. Maybe the roads will be crowded, but we'll have more freedom than we will in an airplane or in the airport. No two hour waits in plastic chairs, and we'll have better seats.
Posted by: PMK at November 22, 2006 4:02 PM
Who is this bleepin' Contessa? I never heard of her before. She's foxy but is blessed with a pea brain. She should be barefoot and pregnant and cooking some good food for a good man. Fools like her can go Muslim without warning
Posted by: dennisw at November 22, 2006 4:05 PM
Hooper must be reading Jihad Watch:
This time he went on air without his trademark coffee-filter, but does it help his message? I don't think so...
This whole thing was just another case of pushing the boundaries, to shove Islam down everybody's throats, to really rub it in.
Because, as we all know: Nothing has been done to placate Islam as the the violent, intolerant & mysogynistic criminal organization that it is, nothing has been done to stop islamic immigration and prison da'awa, and nothing has been done to stop the constant influx of Mohammedans from all Islamic countries to the west ...
CAIR and similar organizations are well funded and their activities are enough to make a camel puke. But 5 years after 9/11 Mohammedan subversives are more active than ever and the US-admisnistration has become dumber rather than cleverer in dealing with them...sad!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 22, 2006 4:31 PM
Just so I understand Mr.Hooper correctly, if a
child was chocking to death right in front of him just seconds befor he must do his prayers then Hooper would let the child die rather than save it.
I can see how Muslims women live in fear because the men would let them die befor actually
missing a prayer to their wonderful god and ideal leader Muhammad, why the hell would you book a flight knowing it affected your prayers , could this be another baiting by Muslims to launch a law-Suit .
I still predict that when Al-Qaeda starts bombing the Mosques in America it will be Hooper
demanding "Profiling" to stop these misunderstanding followers of their Peaceful faith to get into America, and just watch how fast they refuse to fly with other Muslims that aren't Citizens.
Hatred and bigotry all depends on who the people are doing it , and right now CAIR is getting away with Infidelophobia to label all non-Muslims and racists and enemies of islam.
at November 22, 2006 5:37 PM
Blacks have been here for 400 years while Muslims are fresh off the boat. They just arrived in America but that doesn't stop them from being in your face, from being major pests. One would think they would be quiet and just happy to be here rather than some oppressive Muslim shit hole. But that ain't the case.
Chinese Vietnamese Hindu immigrants are all productive and decent citizens. They are quiet and don't rile up the American people. Not so for the Muslim. The worst possible immigrants there are. Just look how they riot in Europe and hijack neighborhoods to where the police are afraid to enter and arrest criminals
Posted by: dennisw at November 22, 2006 5:53 PM
Oh brother, hahahahahahaha. Roas Parks actually stood for something of value. One of these Imams has ties with Hamas damnit. These people are not victims! Holy Lord up on high.
Posted by: TheVoiceofTruth at November 22, 2006 6:04 PM
Every time we apologize we show weakness to these Muslim Thugs. They know how to instill fear. They know we will apologize. They are Thugs. Contessa, what size Burka do you wear?
Posted by: juicealot at November 22, 2006 6:09 PM
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
Martin Luther King Jr.
Posted by: WillPower at November 22, 2006 8:10 PM
Words are cheap. Saying somethink like that doesn't mean there is any truth involved--as there isn't.
Posted by: pythagoras at November 22, 2006 8:46 PM
I'm surprised the silly muslims don't sue the airline for boarding at prayer time. Maybe muslims should have their own airlines that only fly between prayers.
Posted by: freewoman at November 22, 2006 10:11 PM
Sorry Mr.Hooper ...... but .....while Rosa did get to sit near the front of a bus way back in the mid 20th century, today she would still be force to use a female enterance at a Mosque and
be segragated to the female section because of the Muslim men having no self-control when they see skin.
If she tried riding a bus in Saudi Arabia today and didn't have a male escort and a Hijab
she would be killed under Sharia-law and if not stonning it would be a beheading.
Dougie Hooper looks like a fool when he spews the crap about islam meaning peace and giving more Human Rights to females than they have in the west.
at November 22, 2006 10:27 PM
That sly Hooper without his doily cap? Why? Doesn't want to look too "Moslem?" The whining imams he represents turn one's stomach. The more TV exposure these subversives get, the better. Americans (not "Moslem-Americans") will get their fill of them and their angry complaining. Strip 'em of citizenship and ship 'em out. Where to? Back to the cesspools that spawned them.
Posted by: unicorns62000 at November 22, 2006 11:49 PM
This is not the first time Ms. Brewer has proven to be a fool. No wonder Imus fired her. As to the Imans, I don't know if they were singled out or the airline was simply being careful. I do know those men are not stupid. They must have checked departure times and known it would interfere with prayer time. My question is "why not fly at a time when they would not cause a commotion?" I think this was a planned operation though for what purpose I can't say but I can speculate and it's not good.
Posted by: eneri at November 23, 2006 6:44 AM
I think we need to do some deep digging into these white muslims criminal backgrounds. I have observed some of these spokesmouthes, it is obvious many are hardcore ex con addicts. Where did they serve time? Who recruited them? They tell them no doubt, this is your avenue to strike back at those who imprisoned you. Embrace islam and get your revenge, we will go on jihad together. They are the dregs of white society to be sure and 99% of them will likely have some nasty skeletons in their closets. Check em out, expose them for what they are. Hound them to the gates of Hades from whence they came. Americans will be shocked and angry to know they are being conned by criminals.
Posted by: tgusa at November 23, 2006 9:57 AM
americaningermany,
I am talking more than that. San Quentin, Folsom, Sacramento State more than just a troublemaker. Sociopaths, Psychopaths, Pedophiles, who knows? They hide it but if you look close you can see the hate. The hate for everything and everyone on this Earth, except for themselves. They want to get even with society for not letting them take advantage of other citizens. That is why they are drawn to it like bugs to a zapper. When you have seen people wreck themselves using heroin, it is not hard to spot the tell tale signs, they never really go away. There is also a distinct type of speech that develops in Prison, it is very hard to hide, especially when someone gets them riled by unwanted questions.
HappyThanksGiving
at November 23, 2006 10:59 AM
I am a evangelical wasp pro-military conservative. If I got up on a plane and began reading scripture from the Gospels out loud, they would have me off the plane and being questioned by security before I finished one verse. Also, what qualifies these "clerics" as "Scholars."
Posted by: Rebdoc at November 23, 2006 11:55 AM
If I was a Muslim and I was a genuine person, I would understand where the security guards were coming from, realising that my own people had given us a bad name I would willingly submit to being taken off the plane or searched what ever the case may be, to get angry says to me that they are guilty... Dam it all, tens of thousands of people are being slaughtered every year by this religion and there have been over 6668 terrorist attacks since sep 11th, all by only one religion, MUSLIMS, so why don't the genuine ones understand our pre occupation and tell the world that they understand our need to feel safe...
Posted by: Gaye at November 24, 2006 6:56 AM
Very good point TEXROCK, it is only the very young who blow themselves up. Acturally they show their lacking in intellect as they dont seem to question as to why their ex-leaders dont blow themselves up. I can understand why the leaders dont as they are to lead, but once their time is finished, why not...or why dont the old men blow themselves up, to insure that they get their virgins and a place in paradise, isnt this the only way that they are assured a place in paradise is if they die killing the hated infidel...
Posted by: Gaye at November 24, 2006 7:16 AM
I find such fleecing by the media disturbing. If this exchange were more radicalized we could fully appreciate its current deceptiveness.
For instance, in the true world of Islam, this reporter is just uncovered meat. Since our media trades in form over substance and photogenity over plain intelligence, the beauty queen with all her ignorance and good intentions is also a tool for normalizing the lies that Islam proliferates.
Hooper, for his part, should appear in all his Islamic glory, with sheik headgear and a bejewelled scimitar. Behind his a large, looming Islamic mosque should dwarf the city skyline and a crescent moon should symbolize the mysticism, myth and fable that Islam propigates. Hooper should put this reporter in her place because, as uncovered meat, she is nothing more than chattel and a breeder for Islam. Her ideas, intellect (however negligible) and independence do not really exist in Islam.
Rosa Parks and MLK would even dispute their names being hijacked for Islam's cause. Rosa Parks sat down to perserve her civil rights; these imams stood up and disrupted a flight by leaving their seats, from one report that I read.
What's next? Hooper hijacking MLK's dream speech. 'I have a dream that one day little Muslim children will play with their little non-Muslim brothers and sisters in harmony and equality?' 'I have a dream that one day Muslim women clad in burqas will be able to board public transportation with suicide belts without the fear of law enforcement scrutiny or search?' 'I have a dream that one day Muslims will live in peace, harmony and equality with their non-Muslim brethern and sisters around the world, Jews and Christians, apes and pigs?'
No, Hooper isn't going there with his victimized whine and neither are any of these imams. They could care less about anyone being equal, especially Muslims. What they want is more than equality. They want supeiror rights above all other religions, races and governments. Mo-mutt never rhapsodized about settling for equality and these radicals won't either.
Posted by: BurkasforHitlery at November 24, 2006 4:58 PM
Just a comment on Shahin, one of the six imams on the plane. Robert said he is the imam of the Islamic Center of Tucson. He left there in '03 and has been the imam at the Arizona Cultural Academy, a Muslim private school in Phoenix.
A little inside information - his accusations of ICT connections to Islamist groups (although probably true) was part of a successful bid to become imam there in '00. Those accusations were part of the reason he was told to leave later. Shahin in a political opportunist - his main claim to fame in the Arizona Muslim community is his smarmy, aggressive, yet effective fund-raising skills.
I have no doubt that at least he was behaving in a way to bring attention to himself. Within the Muslim community he parlays his Palestinian background, but in the press he referred to himself as a Jordanian (he's both). The local press quoted him as saying that he was angry about the abuse of religious freedom in his "beloved America". Gimme a break - yeah, I bet that's how he refers to the U.S. in his Friday khutba.
My fear is that stunts like this will make American passengers less willing to call attention to suspicious behavior, all in the name of political corectness.
Posted by: ApostaticChick at November 24, 2006 10:59 PM
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