Good morning folks, those of us who are getting up early to get the turkey ready to cook or those who are leaving to go to the T-Day feasts being hosted, let us as Americans and those who are friends of the USA give thanks for the blessings of freedom and other blessings what God gives to us. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving Day.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 23, 2006 6:36 AM

americaningermany,

Good comments above. Also take in consideration that there is a growing backlash against this Islamofacism, just take a look at the action to take off that US Airways those 6 imans. Ameica and Americans are starting to wake up to this threat.

Posting this while I have listened to a song "America to me".

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 23, 2006 6:41 AM

Happy Thanksgiving, Everyone!

As to this article: Every time I attempt to bring such things to the attention of people at the forum I post to, I get the same response: Muslim: 'This is not how I was raised, let them speak for themselves.' or I am attempting to blame all muslims, or other such stupidity.

'Let them speak for themselves.' Great way to avoid doing anything about the problem. When the shiite finally hits the fan and it all falls back in their laps, it will be far too late.

Posted by: Gary at November 23, 2006 6:42 AM

Also let us be thankful for the internet and this wonderful tool in this fight against jihad. JW/DW and the other anti-jihad blogs and websites is proof that folks in the west can stand up against this threat.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 23, 2006 6:46 AM

Assalamau Laikum folks,

Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes.

That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.

I too want to wish the Amerike "happy thanksgiving". Obviously at great expense you will have travelled long distances to be with your families, in many cases like an annual migration visting mothers and fathers in their old folks homes by the cold wind sea ready to devour turkey, roast potato and stuffing I believe. What is your favourite vegetable at thanksgiving?

I am surprised that thanksgiving is so close to Christ-mass...is it possible to buy halal turkey in the Amerike.

Please keep in context that this will not be a happy day for the turkeys. They have a double whammy being so close to christmas n all.

Posted by: Naseem at November 23, 2006 7:05 AM

americaningermany,

Hi and Happy Thanksgiving Day to you!

Early I just helped my mother put into the open up to 20 pounds turkey bird into the oven this morning for the 4-5 hours cooking ritual. Will have my SO, ( boyfriend ) over today. Plus will have one piece of pumpkin and also sweet potato pie. Will be watching both Macy's Parade and listen to the radio a famous T-Day tradition, the famous Manchester Road Race in Manchester, CT. This special day shows the force not only of the greatness of America, but of the power of freedom.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 23, 2006 7:13 AM

North Americans do have much to be thankful for, and our journalists should keep this in mind when reporting on the latest muslim outrage.

I wish all our American neighbours and friends a very Happy Thanksgiving Day, and to the brave servicemen and women in Iraq and Afghanistan, God bless and may you come home safely.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at November 23, 2006 7:46 AM

StillFedUp, I AM thankful I was born in America.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Posted by: freewoman at November 23, 2006 8:11 AM

Assalamau Laikum AIG,

Who is nasir?....getting up early to cook turkey seems to have fried your brain a bit?

Its Naseem...your muslima friend from Lahore, Pakistan.

I hope you recover from your amnesia soon...wouldn't want it to ruin your day.

Stillfedup (she's always in a mood don't you think). says "did we need someone reminding us to be thankful we don't live in cesspool muslim countries?"

Patience stillfedup...there is a coupla decades to go yet...but Allah SWT will visit you soon...don't worry.

Posted by: Naseem at November 23, 2006 8:21 AM

Please keep in context that this will not be a happy day for the turkeys. They have a double whammy being so close to christmas n all.
Posted by: Naseem

poor Naseem you will never know the richness of the "Thanksgiving in America". We Canadians are blessed with two Thanksgiving. and tomorrow is black Friday!
and for those poor turkeys, hey turkeys work hard gaining all that weight to they can have a beter afterlife, 72 virgins turkeys ! l am sure they will pass by on the way to their heaven the scummie muslims who have chopped heads off their countrymen.

favourite veggies... potatoes with corn if you want real North American veggies!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at November 23, 2006 8:32 AM

Naseem do you enjoy reading in the quran/hadith where you have to kill innocent nonmuslims? Or do you like the fact that Muhammed had a 9 year old wife maybe thats why you are muslim you want to have sex with a little girl? Are you that far gone ?

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 10:53 AM

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 16:

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah:

While we were returning from a Ghazwa (Holy Battle) with the Prophet, I started driving my camel fast, as it was a lazy camel A rider came behind me and pricked my camel with a spear he had with him, and then my camel started running as fast as the best camel you may see. Behold! The rider was the Prophet himself. He said, 'What makes you in such a hurry?" I replied, I am newly married " He said, "Did you marry a virgin or a matron? I replied, "A matron." He said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you may play with her and she with you?" When we were about to enter (Medina), the Prophet said, "Wait so that you may enter (Medina) at night so that the lady of unkempt hair may comb her hair and the one whose husband has been absent may shave her pubic region.

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wow this guy was such a pure man huh?

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 10:56 AM

I give thanks that we have Michelle Malkin telling it like it is. All the lapdogs should read this article-maybe then they'll realize that the US is anything but "fascist".

Time to ready a ham. I just realized that at least in English the word "ham" happens to be in Mohammed's name. Had Mr. Perfect realized that he probably would have asked his god for a name change! Just call him Achmed I guess.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 23, 2006 11:06 AM

Assalama Laikum Allies,

You sensibly ask "do you enjoy reading in the quran/hadith where you have to kill innocent nonmuslims?"

I have iterated my views many times on this before....the founder of Ahmadiyya has said that there are no Koranic abrogated verses...and he specifically means the earlier peaceful suras.

I myself read those ..and I skip the violent ones...I believe that a handful of suras should not be there.

You ask "do you like the fact that Muhammed had a 9 year old wife maybe thats why you are muslim you want to have sex with a little girl?"

I am a muslima not a man...I don't want to have sex with a female child...and I don't think that Muhd SAW should have either.

In those days it was not considered paedophila ...but it is now...I would like to see Azhar University pass a ruling to prevent modern age muslims from marrying or having sex with underage childrens.

You make the comment "When we were about to enter (Medina), the Prophet said, "Wait so that you may enter (Medina) at night so that the lady of unkempt hair may comb her hair and the one whose husband has been absent may shave her pubic region".

Hey what can I say...they didn't have TV in those days!

Posted by: Naseem at November 23, 2006 11:11 AM

Unfortunately Naseem most muslims are not ahymadi they do not skip the multitude of violent verses. This is one of the reasons that Ahymadi are considered infidels and are not allowed into mecca by the sunnis. Also pedophillia might have been acceptable back then but since Muhammed is considered by the vast majority of muslims (shiia and sunni) that sort of pedophillia is still practiced in many muslim lands as Robert Spencer has said in his recent Heritage Foundation speech regarding American soldiers finding, for example, that a good 50% of the grade 2 girls were married and married to 45 to 50 year old men.

What Allies said is still applicable therefore.
Sunnis and Shiites are more than 98% of Islam currently and they are the ones who control the prevailing zeitgeist of islam in the middle east and in the world in general.

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Qur’an 4:95 “Not equal are those believers who sit at home and

receive no injurious hurt, and those who strive hard, fighting

Jihad in Allah’s Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has

granted a rank higher to those who strive hard, fighting Jihad

with their wealth and bodies to those who sit. Allah prefers

Jihadists who strive hard and fight above those who sit home. He

has distinguished his fighters with a huge reward.”
Qur’an 47:4 “So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in

battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until

you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length,

when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making

(them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them

based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its

burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out

Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to

Islam.”
Qur’an 2:216 “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained

for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that

you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which

is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not.”

Noble Qur’an 2:190 Footnote: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s

Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the

utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad

Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means

only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is

propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims

fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands

are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an

obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape

from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a

hypocrite.”

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Posted by: Yankee_boy at November 23, 2006 11:19 AM

Thanks to secretkafir again :

http://www.answeringinfidels.com/answering-infidels/answering-muslims/crossing-over-an-intellectual-and-spiritual-journey-from-islam-to-christianity.html
QUOTE:

"CROSSING OVER

An Intellectual and Spiritual Journey from Islam to Christianity

By Nabeel Qureshi

". . . and the truth will set you free."
By Nabeel Qureshi
from footnote 1:
I mention that I had learned a very peaceful version of Islam. I belonged to the Ahmadiyya movement in Islam, a sect that many Muslms consider heretical."

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 11:32 AM

the heritage foundation link where Mr Spencer talks of the huge reality of child marriage today that YB mentions is at link here

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/archive.cfm

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 11:33 AM

Assalmaua Laikum Yankee_boy,

You say "Unfortunately Naseem most muslims are not ahymadi they do not skip the multitude of violent verses".

And I agree with you ...more's the pity. However I think the salvation here is to make more and more Kafur aware of Ahmadi and the superior stance that we take.

When the kafur convert...become an Ahmadi...let us make a difference together....as Ahmadi..moving forward we can make Ahymadia the faith for the wuslim...we get peaceful Islam...it's a win - win situation.

This is what I said to ALLIES...he/she has yet to get back to me on this very important issue.

Posted by: Naseem at November 23, 2006 11:33 AM

I have a better idea Ahmadi can become Christians and Jews and then we can have peace! I already got back to you on the Pakistan post where you and STILLFEDUP (a very good person you should listen to her) and you were talking.

Anyway muslims will not be become Ahmadi and Christians will not even more. When I mentioned you should focus on having sunni and shiite become Ahmadi and the infidels can focuse on the west and together we can have peace you wanted nothing of it. Instead you very rudely insisted that kafir become ahmadi. This will not happen but since you invited me I will inivite YOU to leave all this islam stuff and join us in worship of Christ where he won salvation for your soul and you do not have to work for it in the 'scales' system (point system somebody called it) of allah.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 11:46 AM

When the Ahmadi convert in Pakistan and become Christians and Jews we can drive out the muslims from Pakistan." that sounds better and more trufthful. Also as a Christian man I only believe in marrying one woman. In Ahmadi you can still marry more than one woman which is disrespects a woman and makes her only one of many. I would never do that to a woman, women are not 'toys' as allah inspired Muhammed to write in the quran/hadith. God created one man for one woman. Are you prepared to be the wife of a man who has more than one wife? This is true sin and the showing of ungodly lust if so.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 11:49 AM

The problem with Ahmadi is not the peaceful movement of Ahmadi but the fact that their own prophet had unfullfilled prophecies.

Also Ahmadi still have a concept of "defensive jihad" In time "defensive" can and would be applied to all nonmuslims nonAhmadi even if their movement grew. its the fact that the concept of defensive jihad is just as corrupt

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 11:55 AM

The problem with Ahmadi is not the peaceful movement of Ahmadi but the fact that their own prophet had unfullfilled prophecies.

Also Ahmadi still have a concept of "defensive jihad" In time "defensive" can and would be applied to all nonmuslims nonAhmadi even if their movement grew. its the fact that the concept of defensive jihad is just as corrupt which is the problem and that can only be gotten rid of when the Ahmadi movement disappears (which it will when the sunnis and shiites have their way with it)

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 11:55 AM

quote from Robert spencer:

"The Sunni and Shi’a mainstream consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of the Ahmaddiya, a heretic. His claim to prophethood contradicts basic Islamic tenets and thus renders his followers susceptible to attack."

I wish all muslims could rewrite the Quran but that is not going
to happen.

quote stemmng from this article:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008465.php

Posted by: Yankee_boy at November 23, 2006 12:09 PM

I think offering Ahmadi group focus on the muslim world is not good. Too many elements in quran/hadith prevent real peace. Even if all of them are rejected and 'skipped' over, Islam has a far too corrupt and complex system of shiaria of treatement of women of defensive jihad (which can be interpreted in other ways by clever muslims)etc. I am afraid the only proper reformation would be an outright rejection of all islamic doctrine completely.

For allies. you should know that there were many false prophecies of Ahmad. Please follow this link

http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Vol1/9c.html

on a seperate note
As a man I too oppose unethical treatment of women by allowing polygamous marriages

Posted by: Yankee_boy at November 23, 2006 12:15 PM

Naseem,

I did you decide to skip this verse:

002.106
YUSUFALI: None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?
PICKTHAL: Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things?
SHAKIR: Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?

Or this one:

033.021
YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.
PICKTHAL: Verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.
SHAKIR: Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.

It is so unbecoming of you to pick and choose. Better to leave it all behind.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at November 23, 2006 12:25 PM

So Naseem would have us believe that if only all the world would accept Ahamdeyanism, all would be bliss in the world, eh?

The Ahmadeyan sect is "peaceful" relative only to other Islamic sects and may have a bit to do with its lack of political and financial power rather than a benign if not benevolent nature.

There are, however, numerous other confessionals, monotheistic and polytheistic that don't require its adherents to ignore the conduct of its central prophet and successors and skip over large portions of its holy texts in order to live side by side with others, so why convert to Ahamdeyanism?

Otherwise, I don't think Malkin quite has Sudanese editor Mohammed Taha's story quite right. He only published the "insulting" remarks; he didn't pen them himself nor did he agree with the author's opinions as Taha, himself, was an Islamist.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at November 23, 2006 12:32 PM

I would rather give thanks specifically to be able to live in a country where one does not have to live according to the dictates of the sky god/imaginary friend cults that still exist today.

Not much impressed with anything Malkin has to say, but will always support Robert and am thankful for his bringing attention to the hate, violence and intolerance practiced by millions of Muslims today.

Posted by: amana39 at November 23, 2006 12:47 PM

Happy Thanksgiving to you all!

I would add North Korea to Michelle Malkin's list, where journalists in the way we understand this profession don't even exist. Or, rather, nobody exists outside the Dear Leader's/Party's will.

Posted by: ovidius_naso at November 23, 2006 12:57 PM

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!

Naseem, you keep stating that it's only a matter of time before we convert to Islam here, but I will tell you, as a proud American, I would prefer to be beheaded before ever converting to Islam, for my Saviour is Jesus Christ, and I refuse to ever worship a pagan idol of which Allah was one of 350 at the time of Mohammed. You have been greatly deceived and misled.

Posted by: Bonniea at November 23, 2006 1:08 PM

Bonniea -

I completely agree, Sis! I've stated before that they can have my head, but they will never have my heart -- that belongs to Jesus Christ my Lord!

Posted by: champ at November 23, 2006 1:25 PM

And the irony is, Bangladesh, Egypt, Russia, China and the Sudan are amongst the countries whose Governments the Left admires most. Still, I don't see too many Western lefties having the courage of their convictions and seeking political asylum in these countries.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at November 23, 2006 1:50 PM

And may it never be said of the West that we did not appreciate what we had, until we lost it.

Posted by: CaptainGrevious at November 23, 2006 1:51 PM

'Ahmadeyan sect'

...Mozart?

Posted by: Gary at November 23, 2006 2:09 PM

Bonniea Amen to that. John 3:16

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 23, 2006 2:11 PM

Gary,

Just in case you are not being facetious

A Study of the Ahmadiyya Movement

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at November 23, 2006 2:15 PM

Naseem is projecting her own "fear".

Posted by: champ at November 23, 2006 2:43 PM

Hi everyone, I'm a first time poster but long time reader. Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it :)

I can appreciate that people here in the US are afraid of having their privacy chipped away at. It is a rational fear of a dangerous slippery-slope. But far too many in this country do not fully understand how unique the US is in the amount of personal freedom and guaranteed protection of liberty that it offers. While it's a far from perfect system, it's honestly the best in the world today. Thank you, Robert Spencer, for keeping your tone so civil and calm even in the face of such outlandish (and often times truthfully dangerous) enemies. Thank you, soldiers of free world, who are laying your lives on the line and far too often finding out what lies beyond so that we may continue to have such freedoms. And thank you to everyone such as Michelle Malkin, who realize that even the dissenters can't honestly say that there are better places in the world than the US.

Cheers :)

Posted by: Tak at November 23, 2006 3:39 PM

Naseems when hell freezes over! When the kafur convert...become an Ahmadi...let us make a difference together....as Ahmadi..moving forward we can make Ahymadia the faith for the wuslim...we get peaceful Islam...it's a win - win situation.

as other posters have said you become a Christian, and help convert others from your Paki land, and then you will have a country that will become prosperous! otherwise. islam can fool some of the people some of the time, but it will never fool all the people all of the time!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at November 23, 2006 6:20 PM

Assalamau Laikum all,

It is obvious to me that you would try to discredit the founder of Ahmadiyya, although I will concede that he did make mistakes, certainly was not the ultimate prophet. At anyrate I belong to the Lohri sect...we don't belive that he was the Mahdi...but simply an excellent spiritual teacher.

The Lohri sect tries hard to repair the damage done by peoples writing that has put divisions between us and Islam....so it is a difficult situation.

As for AIG's "This personality (Naseem)is assigned to disempower infidels. His/her/its feeble attempts to make us believe that it is not "jihadist" or "extremist" are just plain and simply "BULLSHIT".

I couldn't disagree with you more. I am not assigned to anyone or anything, I am a muslima in Lahore doing dawa for my religion...nothing more. I am not a jihadist, I am a dawa-ist...and the difference is immense...I would never call for holy war...simply peaceful Islam for the world.

Now admittely, this is looking difficult at the moment..but you know Islam...perseverence is one of it's greatest strengths.

Love the hate that is starting to come from you and the retarted "stillfedup"..ROTFL.

Posted by: Naseem at November 24, 2006 7:49 AM

I myself read those ..and I skip the violent ones...I believe that a handful of suras should not be there.

You ask "do you like the fact that Muhammed had a 9 year old wife maybe thats why you are muslim you want to have sex with a little girl?"

I am a muslima not a man...I don't want to have sex with a female child...and I don't think that Muhd SAW should have either.
Posted by: Naseem

We seek to discredit Mirza Ghulum Ahmed because he was a false prophet, and because he was even more derogatory towards Christ than Mohammad. Not because Ahmed could have a moderating effect on Islam, but despite it. His false faith does not improve our assessment of the original false Islamic faith.

More importantly, we seek to discredit YOUR faith. The comments I've pasted above are countered by the verses I quoted above, 2:106 and 33:21. You do not believe Mohammed was a perfect model of conduct. You do not believe the Qur'an is perfect. Hence, you are not a Muslim, because your shahadatain is imperfect.

Your own faith doesn't accept you. You can't make a hajj. Your country considers you at best a non-Muslim, your countrymen, at best, an apostate.

Most frustrating, you frequently make forays towards understanding a better faith, raising our hopes, and then, while many of us have been praying for you, you come back like a broken record, like nothing ever happened. Same old stale Muslim dogma from a non-Muslim.

God help you.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at November 24, 2006 8:15 AM