Having watched the news segment of the imams coming back to the counter at US Airways To buy tickets again--you saw this courteous lady at US Airways ticket counter nicely reminding these fellas that they had BEEN TOLD THE COMPANY POLICY WAS TO DIRECT SUCH TRAVELERS TO ANOTHER AIRLINE WHEN SUCH WERE REMOVED FROM A US AIRWAYS FLIGHT.

I HAVE TO SAY THAT I WILL CERTAINLY LOOK TO FAVOR US AIRWAYS WHEN I TRAVEL BASED ON HOW THEY HAVE HANDLED THIS.

I got the impression that the imams were scripted by the way they made their requests at the counter.

Nice work US Airways!

Posted by: BB at November 24, 2006 9:25 AM

From article:Police had to forcibly remove the men from the flight, whereupon they were taken into custody. A search found no weapons or explosives, and they were released to continue on their journey.

The least the police should have done is arrest, and 'charge' these guys with resisting arrest and creating a disturbance.
This is beyond police stupidity. They should have at least held them untill it was determined who they 'really' are. They were not 'harrassed', they were breaking the law. The decision to release them was probably not made by involved officers, but someone higher up on the food chain. Find that person and you have found an example of the 'Peter Principal', that of elevating someone to their level of incompetence, sometimes know as being 'kicked upstairs'.

Posted by: duh_swami at November 24, 2006 9:35 AM

Keith Ellison, D-Minn., who will be the first Muslim sworn into Congress (with his hand on the Quran)............................................................................................

NO! NO! NO! He should be made to swear in on the Bible. Just like everyone else. The koran teaches it's followers they can lie.

People who voted for this guy, if they aren't muslims, should stop and think what they have done.

Posted by: freewoman at November 24, 2006 9:36 AM

I think the Muslims were being provocative and are testing the legal system to see what they can get away with.

I hope the airline can prove that its employees all behaved properly and had just cause to remove the imams. I hope the airline doesn't have to cave, but I expect it will be forced to make at least some concessions. If this was a set-up, then the folks behind it would have been advised by a lawyer. For example, can the airline legally remove you for requesting a seat belt extension or for praying out loud?

If there is some kind of government inquiry, it will waste taxpayers' money, which also seems to be one of the goals of the Islamists.

Bah.

Posted by: Josephine at November 24, 2006 9:37 AM

Senator Reid;

Congratulations on your position of power in the upcoming session. I understand that the subject of immigration reform will be addressed under your leadership.

Please consider my family’s concern that provisions be made to screen and/or severely limit immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa. A US Military Academy found the following:

“The report found that radical Islam, sometimes called Salafism, is so deeply embedded in the Arab world that Salafis now constitute a “majority or significant portion” of the Muslim population in the Middle East and North Africa.”

Please make sure that immigrants coming to America share the same ‘American Dream’ that you and I do.

Respectfully;

Posted by: limes at November 24, 2006 9:42 AM

If they truly wanted to be Americans, they wouldn't be upsetting the apple cart as they do.

Just out of curiosity, did we have Councila on Irish American Relations? What about French Relations? Scottish? Canadian? Chilean? Morrocan? How about a council on Yugoslavian relations?

If these people could assimilate and not need councils, why shouldn't muslims? (I know the answer on that one.)

Posted by: freewoman at November 24, 2006 9:44 AM

Within hours, the men enlisted a Muslim-rights group to make a stink in the press, insisting they were merely imams returning home from an Islamic conference in Minneapolis. They say they were "harassed" because of their faith.

The only detail that the six immams overlooked was the fact that Pelosi and her putrid socialist ilk, are not yet in power.

This was nothing but a soft airline hijacking.

This was nothing more than an expression of islamic, in-your-face, whatta-gonna-do-about-it, hedgemony.

These men probably enlisted the "Muslim-rights group to make a stink in the press" several weeks BEFORE this flight, and most likely at another Islamic conference.

These are NOT true Americans seeking to obey the law.

These are enemies attempting to subvert the laws in another wicked islamic expansion of jihad.

When Pelosi takes power, real Americans may be forced to take the law into their own hands in these very specific circumstances such as these soft hijackings, since socialist are generally supports of islam, and Pelosi is a rabid socialist, as well as closet jihadist herself.

They might even have the testonial fortitude to eventually take their country back from the socialists who have hijacked their government!

Posted by: witness at November 24, 2006 9:59 AM

"Rep.-elect Keith Ellison, D-Minn., who will be the first Muslim sworn into Congress (with his hand on the Quran)."

"with his hand on the koran". If this is true, the attack on American culture and values IS ON!

Just goes to show this culture will be chipped away a bit at a time.

Posted by: sounder at November 24, 2006 10:01 AM

Provocateurs of course. And they should be aware of the biblical phrase....."Reap as ye sow."
Stop the whining....go home and shut up.

Posted by: ibrahim224 at November 24, 2006 10:04 AM

The incident was just the trip wire here is the attack: Incoming Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., has already drafted a resolution, borrowing from CAIR rhetoric, that gives Muslims special civil-rights protections.

We are Americans and equality is our basic right. Since when are muslims more equal and disserving of additional protections? Show me anything that will prove muslim civil rights are threatened anymore than mine are. Show me proof some evil powers are out to take anything from them. I see people attempting to force them into obeying exciting laws, which don’t violate any civil rights, it is common sense.

I want my own special civil rights protection, Ronin are endangered species, racially harassed (on line) and far to cute to be forcibly removed from this planet. I hope Incoming Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., will shortly draft a resolution to protect Ronin civil rights and also grant me additional federal protections for any future business interests I might have. If my future ventures are successful I’m sure he would look for a fat contribution. I just hope he doesn’t hold his breath.

Looks like if this resolution makes it past the draft stage (the first draft, I still want mine) we all need to call, write and watch anyone who supports it. If it passes and outlaws anti islamic posts, I will see you all on the 6 o clock news. I will be the one wearing a t-shirt demanding additional civil rights protection for the Amish. Someone has to have their backs and so far they have never wished me any harm, they have not blown up anything or one, never threatened anyone and never asked for federal favors.

Posted by: Ronin at November 24, 2006 10:05 AM

And one more thing!

Where were the Federal Air Marshalls that should have been on that flight !?

Did these men have "inside access" to information and know ahead of time that they did not need to fear the presence of the Feds?

Also, a few of months ago, there was an American couple who were arrested for inappropriate and erotic kissing on an airliner.

They were arrested and hauled before a Federal court and faced 25 years in prison for causing a disruption.

These six swine are not demand equal protection under the law; they are demanding supremacy above the law due their preceived exalted status of be islamics in accord with their nefarious quaranic teaching.

This was an act of islamic war against the United States, and the Citzens of this country.

The immams owe an apology but are not caving; why should we?

Posted by: witness at November 24, 2006 10:13 AM

I have never flown US Airways before, but I will at my next opportunity, ESPECIALLY if the Muslims boycott it.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at November 24, 2006 10:23 AM

Rep.-elect Keith Ellison, D-Minn., who will be the first Muslim sworn into Congress (with his hand on the Quran)."

I would request a source for this, although it is logically a possiblility.

Here is the implication:

Because of islamic doctraine of abbrogation, then what Ellison is really swearing to uphold is Sura 9; the chronologically last of the 114 satanic verses.

That would mean that he has committed a public act of treason by swearing to an act of war, articulated in Sura 9 -- the so-called "Verse of the Sword -- against the United States and the People of the country.

The gallows should be his next destination after making such a public declaration of war against our country as a member of Congress.

Unfortuantely, the little fairies that run Congress will yield nothing but nervous smiles have their eyes darting this way and that to see if the cameras are recording their apparent "welcoming" of the newest member.

Socialists be damned!

Posted by: witness at November 24, 2006 10:29 AM

Yes, Ronin is right. We need to make the biggest stink over this and enlist our friends, family and neighbors to do the same. Pick up our biggest rolled up newspaper and whack those egomaniacs back into their holes.

We shouldn't wait until the resolution is drafted. We need to complain LOUDLY now, to everyone who will listen. Americans seem to be a tolerant bunch (much to our detriment) but when you tell us that some group that is NOT being abused but is doing the abusing, wants special rights for being a bunch of crybabies, we get our hackles up pretty quickly. We usually blow it off and many times suffer the consequences for it. We can't afford to this time. Every time we've done that we've given up a little of our freedom. Well, I'm not giving up any more. I'm furious now. I've had it. I'm fighting back. And if you think the Democrats won't care, let's drop subtle hints that we got rid of the Republicans, we can get rid of them in two years if they don't do what we want.

Remember what Brigitte Gabriel said, that it only takes 50 people to call your congressman about an issue to make him/her take action. Let's start storming the phone lines now. Let's make such a racket about how we're scared and how we have rights (say this line with a baby voice) and how Americans need protection and let's even consider an airline boycott ourselves. Who cares if a handful of Muslims boycott the airlines. Will that really make a difference in the airline's bottom line? But the imagine if normal Americans banded together and didn't fly for one solid week. Our governing leaders would have an attack of apoplexy! And it doesn't even have to be real. The threat would probably be enough. It could just be talk, like CAIR does it. We could fight them with their own antics. They would be so confused they wouldn't know what to do. In fact they are banking on us being good little dhimmis. Let's disappoint them.

You guys are so good at getting the numbers for the reps. Does anybody have that handy and would you post it please?

And please, also consider doing this for the sake of the poster above...I've never seen a "to cute Ronin" and I'd hate for it to go extinct before I get the chance. ; )

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 24, 2006 10:30 AM

Why is it that when a "normal" american causes a scene on a airplane nowadays they get charged with a Federal crime of some sort?

But when a Muslim does it, nothing. If congress cant see through this sham were through.

Posted by: frodnum at November 24, 2006 10:49 AM

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/

Is where I sent mine. Just Google the name of your Senators and Representatives and they've all got electronic contact forms.

Its easy to send an e-mail. But if you've got the time, it makes a bigger impression if you write a paper letter and deliver it to your representative's office.

They've all got offices spread throughout their districts. They pay staff to listen to the constituents. I've done it twice, and in both cases received an original signature on a letter back from the Senator.

Posted by: limes at November 24, 2006 10:49 AM

Airport Security (puke)
Trading Liberty for Safety and ending up with neither. Those citizens out there that said, it's OK let's sacrifice our Freedoms at the Airport, allow them to treat us all like suspects because of whom? Well, soon you will have none and it won’t stop there either. Anyone who put up with this and continued to frequent these Airports/ Airlines, to them I have to say get used to what is happening, you allowed it. Instead of all of us being scrutinized after 9-11 they should have gone directly to the source. They are already saying, the next terrorist might be blue eyed and blonde as good a reason as any to treat us all like potential terrorists. I’m sick of it, they kill, we lose in every way. Start standing up for your rights, fight for them like they are the last thing you have on this planet.

Posted by: tgusa at November 24, 2006 10:55 AM

Remember United flight 93. If anyone hasn't seen the movie United 93, rent it, buy it, and understand why the passengers and crew of U.S. Airways were right to take the precautions they took. Remember the heroes of United 93 and never forget them. Let us continue to take precautions so that tragedies like that never have to happen again.

Posted by: leper at November 24, 2006 11:01 AM

"'Rep.-elect Keith Ellison, D-Minn., who will be the first Muslim sworn into Congress (with his hand on the Quran).'

"I would request a source for this, although it is logically a possiblility."

witness - Ellison was interviewed by CBC Radio the day after the election. He was asked by the interviewer if he would be swearing on the Koran and he said yes, he would.

Posted by: Josephine at November 24, 2006 11:02 AM

Ellison was interviewed by CBC Radio the day after the election. He was asked by the interviewer if he would be swearing on the Koran and he said yes, he would...

Thank you.

Posted by: witness at November 24, 2006 11:04 AM

• Made anti-American statements.

AND:

All six claim to be Americans..

This is the problem. We are giving citizenship to anti-American, foreign hostiles like it was candy.

News Flash: There are millions of non-Muslim Americans who are... anti-American! (Mostly Leftists, along with a tiny smattering of ultra-Right-wing wackos.)

Posted by: remote_control at November 24, 2006 11:10 AM

"that gives Muslims special civil-rights protections"

When Muslims, like the ones that blew up the planes ion 9/11 are given some civil-right protections, they can now be more free to enter planes and nobody will talk to them because of fear of prosecution.

All Americans need to read the koran very well to understand the teachings. Not the false interpretations that some of the apologists give to them - telling the west what they want to hear. Whatever they Moslems are doing is highly organised adn coordinated hence:

"Within hours, the men enlisted a Muslim-rights group to make a stink in the press, insisting they were merely imams returning home from an Islamic conference in Minneapolis. They say they were "harassed" because of their faith"

What the US is seeing today is just a rehearse of a bigger plan.The earlier the christians and security agencies wake up, the better. The earlier the leaders properly define islamism the better.

May God save America!

Posted by: Nwachinemere at November 24, 2006 11:22 AM

Islam has nothing agaist lying especially when it can further thier goals and agendas. Moreso,when Rep.-elect Keith Ellison swears with the koran and starts to engage himself with the teachings of the koran that has to do with deception and violence, are you going to blame him? And that being in an infidel land.
Experience has shown that proselytes are more zealous than those who converted them.

Posted by: Nwachinemere at November 24, 2006 11:30 AM

Time to post this oldy but goody again: From "Jihad Comes to Small Town, USA" by Laura Mansfield:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43868

"At that point, another student took the podium. His name was Khaled, and he began to recount his recent trip to New York City. Khaled and three of his companions had gone to New York for several days in January. He told of how uncomfortable his trip up to NYC had been. He felt like he was being watched, and thought he was the victim of racial profiling.

"Khaled and his friends were pretty unhappy about it, and while in New York, they came up with a plan to "teach a lesson" to the passengers and crew. You can imagine the story Khaled told. He described how he and his friends whispered to each other on the flight, made simultaneous visits to the restroom, and generally tried to "spook" the other passengers. He laughed when he described how several women were in tears, and one man sitting near him was praying.

"The others in the room thought the story was quite amusing, judging from the laughter. The imam stood up and told the group that this was a kind of peaceful civil disobedience that should be encouraged, and commended Khaled and his friends for their efforts.

"He pointed out that it was through this kind of civil disobedience that ethnic profiling would fail."

Posted by: Caroline at November 24, 2006 11:38 AM

Have any commenters discovered any new and current feedback on the comments made to CAIR Rep. Hooper by MSNBC's Contessa Brewer, when she made a comparison to Rosa Parks famous bus incident in relating to the US Airways incident

Posted by: Mackie at November 24, 2006 11:42 AM

"Ellison was interviewed by CBC Radio the day after the election. He was asked by the interviewer if he would be swearing on the Koran and he said yes, he would..."

So an American legislator is to be sworn in by "the grace of the koran"?

We've lost it!

Posted by: sounder at November 24, 2006 11:46 AM

So an American legislator is to be sworn in by "the grace of the koran"?

With several thousand Muslims (including a few Muslim chaplains) in the USA military, with at least one mosque built on a USA military base (Norfolk, Virginia), and with Muslim Americans in various official positions throughout the USA (judges, police, aldermen, etc., and now a Congressman), Islam is officiously woven into the fabric of American society, and its threads are all the less extricable due to the dominance of PC Multiculturalism in the West. As long as that dominance inheres through the acquiescence of millions of ordinary Americans along with a preponderance of American "elites", it will be extraordinarily difficult to take rational actions to protect Americans in the foreseeable future.

Posted by: remote_control at November 24, 2006 12:13 PM

Despite their attempts to recruit and plus up the numbers we here in the USA do not have massive numbers of muslims. Proof of that is our relatively low crime rate. Unfortunately for us our own desire to protect works against us. A relatively small number of smooth talking muslim spokesmen can and have recruited powerful friends. Exposure is our best weapon, call out their “friends” and expose them and let them know we are watching them and their actions. Consider every side of every proposal before you vote your approval. Are you anti gun? I am I wish I was the only one to own them but in today’s world would you really want your neighbors unarmed? Look at what Gun control did to europe before you answer. Do you support amnesty for illegal aliens? Do you know how many of which religions are here and what their numbers are, would they vote the same on the issues as you would? Do you support controlling offensive speech in public? Is this blog public? Are Christian churches public? I would never dream of telling anyone how to vote but you all, we all, need to consider all sides of an issue before we approve them. Keep in contact with your representative or your enemies will talk on your behalf. Keep a notebook by your system, record their actions and inaction’s and vote accordingly. Now excuse me while I jump down off this soapbox.

Posted by: Ronin at November 24, 2006 12:57 PM

everyone needs to call US air and let them know that we all stand with them in their clear and strong action.

i just got off the phone and the rep said that most of the calls are positvie.

Posted by: sado1 at November 24, 2006 1:34 PM

Ellison is referred to an "African-American convert".

I believe it should correctly state "African-American revert", because the Muslim religion considers all of us to be Muslim and have only lost our way. So, in their minds when someone becomes Muslim, he is reverting back to what they originally were.

Their logic is simply astounding!

Posted by: NavySEAL Mom at November 24, 2006 1:47 PM

If they had been fundamentalist christians, who started speaking in tongues and making a racket, they would have been removed, with no more news about it. U.S. Airways was following normal security procedures. I sorry security didn't taser these menacing propagandists. If I was a Muslim I would have been embarrassed by their behavior. CAIR IS SUCH A DISGRACE. Everyone please fly U.S. Airways.

Posted by: juicealot at November 24, 2006 2:29 PM

I use a seatbelt extender on the plane. Yes I'm big boned. There are only a limited supply of those items on the plane, they dont have one for every seat. I think it was likely that they asked for these items to inconvenience other passengers who may require them. This "lends weight" to the theory they were seeking to provoke..

Posted by: payingattention at November 24, 2006 2:50 PM

NavySEAL Mom, “Their logic is simply astounding!”
European involvement in the Trans Atlantic slave trade to the Americas lasted for just over three centuries, the Arab involvement in the slave trade has lasted fourteen centuries, and in some parts of the Muslim world is still continuing to this day.

Two out of every three slaves shipped across the Atlantic were men, the proportions were reversed in the Islamic slave trade. Two women for every man were enslaved by the Muslims.

While almost all the slaves shipped across the Atlantic were for agricultural work, most of the slaves destined for the Muslim Middle East were for sexual exploitation as concubines, in harems, and for military service.

The mortality rate for slaves being transported across the Atlantic was as high as 10%, the percentage of slaves dying in transit in the Trans Sahara and East African slave trade was between 80 and 90%.

Very few descendants of the slaves that ended up in the Middle East survive today. Many children born to slaves in the Americas, and millions of their descendants are citizens in Brazil and the USA to this day.
While most slaves who went to the Americas could marry and have families, most of the male slaves destined for the Middle East were castrated, and most of the children born to the women were killed at birth.
Excerpts from,
Christian Action Magazine
Claremont, South Africa
2004
For more search google> 21st century slavery africa

Posted by: tgusa at November 24, 2006 2:53 PM

If a Muslim is allowed to take the oath of office with his hand on a Koran, then what's to stop someone from taking the oath with his hand on Das Kapital, or this month's Playboy? Pluralism is nothing but polytheism.

Posted by: XNRES at November 24, 2006 3:25 PM

We Americans seem to have a high tolerance level for crap like this airline stunt, even while watching the busy Muslims in the EU ply their freedom-challenging trade in similar fashions.
Strong, free people like ourselves know that our fiercer nature must sometimes be revealed...at terrible cost...so we hesitate...
Extreme measures going far beyond the scope of any military conflicts we're currently involved in are now called for.
JW and the blogosphere in general seem to be ahead of the general population in terms of being educated and aware...I've seen it take many months and even years for people in general to catch up to webtruth in other matters.
I would assume that other posters here are as motivated as I am...our job to educate others becomes more imperative every day we see assaults like this "Imam outrage" continue worldwide.
Give the gift of truth this Christmas, and wrap up a book or two on Islam along with this sites' URL.
We need to exert influence now more than ever.

Posted by: HawkWatcher at November 24, 2006 3:44 PM

It is clear that there are a growing number of Democrats whose view of homeland security is so twisted that they place more importance upon the "civil rights" of enemies of this country than they do on the safety and security of the American people. John Conyers is obviously one of these, perhaps because he receives large contributions from Muslim donors in his Detroit area constituency (and quite likely beyond), perhaps for other additional reasons.

Regardless of what Mr. Conyers' (and his ultra-liberal cronies) modus operandi is, he has clearly cast his lot with enemies of the U.S.and is clearly flirting with treasonous behavior. It is ridiculous to give far leftists like this the benefit of the doubt by saying that they are patriotic in their own way, when the truth is that they despise America as we know it and are intent upon neutering this nation and making it powerless to resist destruction from both without and within. Their complicity in this anti-American agenda has essentially made them the enemy within!

Posted by: verballistic at November 24, 2006 5:38 PM

All muslims -starting with c.a.i.r., and their dhimmi supporters - e.g. Pelosi-progressive-democrats, global "news media", a.c.l.u., must apologize immediately to all Americans and US Airways for this planned, staged and well coordinated dry-run terror act - turned p.c.-p.r. stunt upon its failure or accept their rightful titles as phonies, hypocrites and supporters of terror.

Posted by: TINBH at November 24, 2006 5:42 PM

"most of the slaves destined for the Muslim Middle East were for sexual exploitation as concubines, in harems, and for military service."

There was also considerable need for slave eunuchs (castrated men who would apparently be no sexual threat to the women) in the harems of innumerable shieks, beys, sultans and caliphs -- scattered throughout Southeast Asia, through Persia, India, Asia Minor, North Africa, and Spain -- throughout the roughly thousand years that Islam luxuriated in decadent pomp.

Also, Muslim rulers tended to use slaves (usually African blacks) for the legal role of Executioner (Beheader) -- and you can bet that for the past 1300-odd years in all the Muslim lands from the Pacific to the Atlantic they have required many such Executioners.

Also, don't forget that fair-skinned and fair-haired European boys (Slavs and Scandinavians) were enslaved to satisfy the ostensibly Michael Jacksonesque needs of various Sultans in Islamic history.

Posted by: remote_control at November 24, 2006 5:50 PM

The real question here is, what would you do if you and your family were on this plane? I'm not sure what I would have done, but no way would that plane have taken off with my family and those men on it. An assault charge would be a small price to pay. Our goverment may be run by spineless cowards, that doesn't mean we all have to be!

What would you do?

Posted by: dreadpirat at November 24, 2006 5:59 PM

Muslims, in short, want to made of spectacles! Show me one that isn't?

Posted by: Jeff at November 24, 2006 7:39 PM

Two points:

An eyewitness said it was not US Air but the air marshall on board who called for removal of the Imams.

Second, I believe this "plan" was discussed at the conference, perhaps with Mr. Ellison, in advance of the Conyers' hearings.

Ladies and Gentlemen: this is a gigantic set-up

Posted by: sonomaca at November 24, 2006 7:56 PM

http://blogs.chron.com/bluebayou/2006/11/the_power_of_fear_to_cloud_jud.html

This is the eyewitness reference. Here is what he said:

I happened to be on the plane and sitting in front of two of the imam's who were eventually taken off. I got to the gate just before boarding so I didn't hear them praying, yet their behaviour was suspicious enough that I can understand why they were taken off the flight.

I sat directly in front of two of the imams so I had a pretty good idea of what actually happened. First of all, the six men split into groups of two. They did not sit next to each other but sat on aisle seats across from each other. One man sitting behind me requested a seat belt extender when he didn't need it. Because a seat belt extender has a strap and buckle, it can be swung or used to strangle. One of the women in front of them was an off duty flight attendant who knew this and told it to the flight crew.

When we had to get off the plane so the dogs could sniff for explosives and chemicals, I talked to a woman who had spent a lot of time in the Middle East and could understand what they were saying. Various news articles have relayed what she heard so I don't need to repeat it, but to say that these guys were taken off the plane for praying is nonsense. It's almost as if they deliberately wanted to be taken off the plane by behaving in such a way as to cause concern. The two guys behind me spoke only Arabic the entire time.

Just to let you know, I travel all over the world and have lived as an expat overseas. I am not one to be suspicious or paranoid about things like this but after observing these guys, I took off my sweater to use as protection for my left arm, and loosened my belt in case something happened, to use as a weapon. I have extensive martial arts experience so I checked to see if they were right or left handed and who I would take out first in case something happened. I later talked to a few guys in other parts of the plane who were also making contingency plans with the same thing in mind. I've never done that before and would not have even thought of it unless there was a high level of suspicion.

I never heard any of the flight crew ask these men to get off the plane, so I don't know if that part was true. Eventually, a few police appeared in the rear of the plane and asked the men to leave. They were polite but firm. Later, each man came back on with a policeman to get his carry on bag. The policemen I saw were nothing but polite and professional.

After that, the cargo hold was emptied and dogs sniffed for explosives and chemicals. We had to de-board the plane with our carry on bags and the dogs also sniffed that part. Then we re-boarded and the plane took off for Phoenix.

It's difficult to comment on a situation like this if you weren't there but since I was, I can say that there was just cause for suspicious behaviour and taking them off the plane was the proper action. There was also an undercover air marshal on the plane so it wasn't just a couple of passengers complaining. I don't believe there was paranoid behaviour or religious bigotry. The fact that they prayed didn't bother anyone, it was that someone happened to understand their anti-US comments, their seats on the plane were suspicious, they asked for seat belt extensions they didn't need and brought attention to themselves in a way that not taking them off the plane would have been unprofessional and a failure of the airline and police to do their job. I'd just ask people not to read more into this than actually took place.

Posted by: Steve at November 22, 2006 09:17 PM

Posted by: sonomaca at November 24, 2006 8:00 PM

"These people don't continue to comeback to Arizona because they like the sunshine or they like the state"said FBI Kenneth Williams.Something was established there and it's been there a long time." Was that something that was established there a smuggling and infiltration routes for Jihadist into the U.S. from Mexico across the U.S. Mexican Border. Cause for concern.

Posted by: RED at November 24, 2006 8:53 PM

The only detail that the six immams overlooked was the fact that Pelosi and her putrid socialist ilk, are not yet in power. posted by witnessI'll tell you what and who is putrid, (censored), you are. Tis morons like you with your insane hatred and divisive ideology that will actually destroy America. I'm vehemently "Islamophobic" and anti Jihad, but every time I hear you and other ditto heads froth at the mouth and rant..I begin to wonder who the real animals are?

With childish and insane rants such as yours, the muslims look reasonable.

You and your ilk are your own worst enemies, but what to expect from morons.

You really are stupid $%@#, and everytime you, Coulter, Savage, Limpballs open their mouths.. you and they create more sympathy and allies for the Islamomaniacs..

Right wing fascistic maniacs versus Islamofascistic maniacs....not much of a choice there for the perceptive and constrained.

Posted by: Nariz at November 24, 2006 10:37 PM

Right wing fascistic maniacs versus Islamofascistic maniacs....not much of a choice there for the perceptive and constrained.

Posted by: Nariz at November 24, 2006 10:37 PM

Oh get a grip Nariz, there's a vast difference between us right wing fascists and muslim lunatics. We don't kill people and we have no aspirations to conquer the world, blow up planes, detonate nukes, etc.

Pelosi and her left-wing commie cohorts will start snuffing out "our freedoms" faster than you can sneeze; just watch them. You'll be yearning for the good old days after the first month of their tyranny.

Posted by: Susanp at November 24, 2006 11:21 PM

Thanks for bringing some reason, Susan! When Nariz blows his own cover by saying our "childish & insane rants make the muslims look reasonable" he shows enough of his hand that he reveals himself as either:

1. A limp-wristed liberal who attempts to create moral equivalency between "right wing fascists" and "Islamofascists"...the 21st century equivalent of Neville Chamberlain, who thought the Nazis who were actually "reasonable people" could be negotiated with and appeased!

OR

2. The internet equivalent of a Rush Limbaugh show "seminar caller", (posing as a "concerned conservative" or "ex-Republican" to give himself "legitimacy" among other conservatives), when he actually despises conservatives worse than he does Islamists and George Bush worse than Osama bin Laden

Either way, folks like Nariz end up aiding and abetting the Islamist terrorists in their ceaseless quest to destroy Western culture, either wittingly or unwittingly---an essentially irrelevant distinction since both fulfill the same end as pawns of the Islamists!

Posted by: verballistic at November 25, 2006 2:39 AM

Nariz,
Jihadi provocateur, Notice the capitalizations of islamophobia and jihad? It comes here and rants about Savage as well as others and talks about insane hatred by expressing… insane hatred. You have to give them credit though, they really like the dems and will stand up for them at the drop of an asshat. Maybe it knows that the libs will never fight the jihadis but what else is new, they don’t stand up for any of the things they said were their causes.

Posted by: tgusa at November 25, 2006 9:28 AM

I think that Conyers and Ellison need to be held accountable for this resolution giving Muslims special civil rights, if it passes. Any airline attack that takes place after Conyers and Ellison weaken our security should be laid at their feet, and they should be compelled to answer for it, and to do so for what it really is: murder and treason.

Robert, please keep us up-to-date on this - we CANNOT let this become the law of the land. It is clear the whole incident was staged and we cannot let them succeed.

Posted by: Golden Boy at November 25, 2006 11:06 AM

The more I learn about this premeditated, ground-breaking incident, the more I agree with TGUSA's comment that Nariz is, in fact, a jihadi provocateur!! The whole incident has been carefully crafted out of the early civil rights movement "playbook" and these 6 swine are merely wolves in Rosa Parks' clothing!!

Likewise, I can almost guarantee that our incensed, irrational adversary Nariz is nothing more than a zealous, committed CAIR member who has been embedded here at jihadwatch.org to monitor, undermine and, if possible, sabotage the freeflow of needful dialogue among those of us who see ourselves as freelance agents on the easily blurred battlelines in the struggle between free nations and those cutthroat serpents that would destroy EVERYTHING we stand for!!

Undoubtedly Nariz and those of his nefarious persuasion will fail in their pathetic attempt to turn this cutting edge website & forum into a limp-wristed liberal lovefest like www.blogs.chron.com/bluebayou replete with hand-wringing and soulful laments of those who would bend over backwards to massage the twisted egos of Islamist madmen!! I sincerely hope that Nariz is also being monitored and that our side has embeds in the dark crevices of cyberspace to ferret out islamofascist vermin as they attempt to squelch the due diligence we need to defeat them!

Posted by: verballistic at November 25, 2006 5:03 PM

Nariz is of little or no influence here, and is easily rebuked.
Troll provocation can produce that which they seek...hateful comments on the forum that they can then point to negatively.
Disparage without hate and we win twice.

Posted by: HawkWatcher at November 26, 2006 12:38 AM

I agree that he has little or no influence, but do you think Nariz might possibly be one of the "ELECTRONIC JIHAD CYBER SOLDIERS" mentioned in an adjacent thread here at jw.org, perhaps indirectly gloating while attempting to sabotage the site behind the scenes?

Posted by: verballistic at November 26, 2006 7:05 PM