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In "Column One: The Gemayel warning" in the Jerusalem Post, Caroline Glick points out some of the sobering implications of the assassination of Pierre Gemayel:
Tuesday saw another nail driven into the coffin of US President George W. Bush's vision of a free and democratic Middle East. The Syrians aren't even trying to hide their involvement in the assassination of Lebanon's Industry Minister Pierre Gemayel.Hours after Gemayel was murdered, his killers issued a communiqu calling themselves the "Fighters for the Unity and Liberty of Greater Syria." They said that they killed Gemayel because he was "one of those who unceasingly spouted their venom against Syria and against [Hizbullah], shamelessly and without any trepidation." Gemayel, they threatened, would be the first of many victims. As they put it, "Sooner or later we will pay the rest of the agents their due..."
The hit this week was not a bolt from the blue. For the past several weeks Hizbullah chief Hassan Nasrallah and his bosses in Syria and Iran have made it brutally clear that they intend to bring down the anti-Syrian government of Prime Minister Fuad Saniora and replace it with a pro-Syrian, pro-Iranian coalition led by Hizbullah.
Although their intentions are clear, a casual observer of events could be forgiven for finding the timing of Gemayel's murder somewhat mystifying. After all, the UN Security Council is preparing the establishment of an international tribunal to try those responsible for the February 2005 murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri. Why would Syrian President Bashar Assad wish to make people mad at him now by killing yet another anti-Syrian politician in Lebanon?
What a casual observer misses is the simple fact that events in Lebanon do not stand on their own. Like Israel and the Palestinian Authority, Lebanon is a front in a regional war being waged against the US, Israel and their allies by Iran and Syria. Iraq is another front in this war and Gemayel's murder is intimately tied to developments in Iraq.
The Democratic Party's victory in the November 7 Congressional elections convinced Iran and Syria that they are on the verge of a great victory against the US in Iraq. Iranian and Syrian jubilation is well founded in light of the Democratic leadership's near unanimous calls for the US to withdraw its forces in Iraq; Bush's firing of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his appointment of his father's CIA director Robert Gates to replace him; and Bush's praise for the Congressionally mandated Iraq Study Group charged with revisiting US strategy in Iraq, which is being co-chaired by his father's secretary of state James Baker III.
Although his committee has yet to formally submit its recommendations, Baker made clear that he will recommend that the administration negotiate a withdrawal of US forces from Iraq with Iran and Syria. That is, he is putting together a strategy not for victory, but for defeat.
Indeed, for his recommendations will not be based on redeployment to meet the larger jihad threat, as we have long advocated, but on appeasement and surrender.
Read it all.
Posted by Robert at November 24, 2006 4:14 PM
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"Where I have seen corruption boil and bubble
Till it o’er-run the stew: laws for all faults,
But faults so countenanc’d, that the strong statutes
Stand like the forfeits in a barber’s shop,
As much in mock as mark."
Measure for Measure -- Shakespeare
Tolerance and diplomacy towards Arabs and Muslims have run their inevitable course. It's time for all out war with Islam and its never ending spawn of poisonous plagues.
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at November 24, 2006 4:49 PM
Mr Spencer dear, no one cares what you have to say. The word is getting out that you are running from www.ExamineTheTruth.com, he said he will beat you bad in a debate and make you pay for your lies! We all want to see you debate him but you look scared. May be one day you will be a real man and face him?
Shazia
at November 24, 2006 4:50 PM
Shazia Ali:
Please do not spam the site with this. If you do, your messages will be deleted.
As I explained on the other thread, I agreed to debate Nadir Ahmad before I knew what he really was. He declined. Now he is claiming I am the one who refused. That is false, and he knows it is false.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
at November 24, 2006 5:01 PM
Shazia Ali,
The truth will win in any debate.
at November 24, 2006 5:14 PM
Dear Shazia Ali, you are a follower of a death cult, the lies you and your brethren speak of come from your own mouths. There are thousands if not millions of examples of the harm your culture and religion have spread throughout the world.
Just recently your fellow Muslims entered Christianity's holiest shrine the Agia Sophia and defiled her with Muslim prayers. There has been no violent reaction to this abomination, but if any Christian was ever to find his way to Mecca, and pray in your temple it would be safe to say that thousands would die world wide. The BBC interviewed many that occupied the sacred site and the Turks there stated they are upset the Pope's visit brings back memories of the crusades as they entered the city. These are the every day lies your people commit. The Turks never lived there, they took it from the Greeks, Armenians, Jews and Serbs who peacefully lived there. These are the lies your people spread and no one ever questions them outside of forums like this one.
Your people always speak about respect, yet when it is to be reciprocated it never happens. Please go speak to those as stupid as yourself, no-one here will fall for your lies and those of your death cult.
Get lost, I look forward to never reading another one of your ridiculous posts here again.
Niv
Posted by: The fanatic at November 24, 2006 5:24 PM
Shazia Ali,
You are the one who will lose in such a debate. Your implied threat is already being noticed.
Posted by: lonewolf
at November 24, 2006 5:37 PM
MONKEY SEE, MONKEY DO
Watching that idiot President of ours smiling conspiratorially with Putin during his recent Asian spin made me sick. Everyone but Dubya knows that Putin had a hand in the assasination of Anna Politkovskaya and Alexander Litvinenko. Putin is getting away with hell and Bush is too much of a dhimwit to even express the proper body language. What a dolt! What a craven clown!
And now the Gemayel assasination...does anyone seriously doubt who is behind it? Does anyone seriously believe the murderers will be caught and punished?
FUHGEDDABOUTIT!
Posted by: ynkedoodl2 at November 24, 2006 5:37 PM
"Fighters for the Unity and Liberty of Greater Syria."
Lebanon is not Syria, the cedars of Lebanon are mentioned in the Bible. Is this he first step to the Caliphate?
at November 24, 2006 5:39 PM
Robert,
Thank-you for standing up to this troll. God Bless you.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 24, 2006 5:40 PM
The fanatic,
It would not suprise me if Pope Benedict XVI says a brief prayer in Hagia Sophia. It would simply realized the reality that it was and is a Christian church.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at November 24, 2006 5:45 PM
Bigcatgirl1306, I truly hope the Pope does a prayer in the Agia Sophia, and cleanses it of its Muslim residue.
I also hope he goes back to the Vatican and calls for a new crusade, the time has definitely come from the world to awaken to the elephant in the room.
Niv
Posted by: The fanatic at November 24, 2006 5:58 PM
BTW, here are the hadiths I read which lead me to believe that Mohammad was, Allah forgive me for saying this, an onanist.
(1) Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible). (Book #4, Hadith #229)
YankeeDood: Are you sure you're not talking about William Jefferson.. I mean Bill Clinton?
at November 24, 2006 6:13 PM
Look for the " Israel must give away more land for peace " crowd to end up *negotiating* this one, that would be the Bush,Rice and the US State Dept crowd, oh and let's not forget spineless Olmert..The price Syria wants is for the USA to force Israel from the Golan Heights.
The current Israeli government will in the end cave to this pressure and attempt to retreeat from the Golan Heights which will be another disaster.
at November 24, 2006 6:14 PM
(4) Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them. (Book #4, Hadith #233)
Better this fake prophet spurts his seed than the vile words he spewed.. words which gave us the koran.. words which got millions upon millions killed and i mean even before WMD were ever heard of. koran = the ORIGINAL WMD.
at November 24, 2006 6:19 PM
Shali-Ali-izzle, Mohazzle's doomed to simply fizzle,
So get yer hezzle out of yer azzle, cuz Islomuzzle will be was-ul.
at November 24, 2006 6:31 PM
Troll-day again??
Must mean Robert is on to something and they are getting scared!
How predictable was this situation in Lebanon? VERY!!
I am sorry for the Christian Lebanese whose country is being hijacked by islamaniacs!
(Hizbollah, Iran and Syria).
No doubt the world will sit there and let it happen,,,then the big march from Beirut to Tel Aviv,,,,and the world will sit there and let it happen,,,,ad infinitum!
at November 24, 2006 6:34 PM
Thanks ynkedoodl2, for making me laugh (unfortunately) in your first post and making me sick in your second one!
Bush is making me n-e-r-v-o-u-s. We need someone who has the temperment of say... a Ronald Reagan to deal with Iran and Syria. Trigger-happy Ron. Yeah, baby!
at November 24, 2006 6:38 PM
Was a church?
It shall be a church again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ybM3McRsw
Posted by: NicephorusPhocas at November 24, 2006 6:50 PM
Dear Mr. Spencer,
Please keep up the good work. It is a breath of fresh air from the usual pc crowd.
Shazia Ali and his cronies are shitting bricks right now. They are such hateful creatures
but, then again what would you expect from trolls.
at November 24, 2006 7:33 PM
the arab mind is very good at lieing
to itself if syria and iran think that the
dhimmicrats win in the usa means that they are
going to have a victory in lebinon they are nuts
there is more than one man who is p/oed at hezbolla
judgeing from the story on cnn hezbolla is not as popular as it was befor the jews turned it into ruble the best thing the idf is bomb irans nuke program with atom bomb of there own and nuke syria capital and let it be knowen that any furth attacks will end up with them glowing in the dark
at November 24, 2006 7:55 PM
@ynkedoodl2
Just to be fair, shall we go into the various cleanliness laws from the Torah? The certain discharges and uncleaness of women? See Leviticus for example. And stay outside of the camp for seven days while you are at it. (kidding)
at November 24, 2006 7:56 PM
I've been reading this site for quite a bit now but first time I've posted.
Robert, very great to see you posting what the brilliant Caroline Glick has to say. I have been reading Caroline's astute articles, all of them each and every week that passes, and it's great to see you brining her perspective into your page as well as that lady knows her stuff.
I also wanted to say how much i appreciate what you do Mr. Spencer, and I salute you !
Best regards,
Key
at November 24, 2006 8:35 PM
"Just to be fair, shall we go into the various cleanliness laws from the Torah?"
No, let's not go there. I had a long talk with my brother last night. He's a 60's leftist radical who believes that George Bush is the Father of all Evil.
When I suggested he read the Koran, he started ranting about all the bloodshed in the Old Testament.
I said: "You're talking ancient history. Let's talk about today, right now and tomorrow. Nobody is using the Bible as an excuse to bomb weddings, chop off heads and fly airplanes into buildings."
This, of course, got me nowhere because George Bush, who believes in the Bible, is the Father of all Evil.
My point is that we cannot afford to allow this red herring to be dragged across our path. We cannot afford "to be fair". We have been "fair" to the point of bending over, backwards and forwards, until our spine is believed to be nonexistant.
We are at what I call "The Popeye Point".
"That's all I can stands 'cause I can't stands no more!"
No offence, Pseudonymous, but let's have this scholarly debate after we've won the war.
Posted by: USBeast at November 24, 2006 8:53 PM
"Popeye Point" = Dagger to the Bone Point
as someone has said
I will use an Arab saying as an analogy of the inevitability of a backlash, it goes like this: "The dagger has now reached the bones". This is a famous expression that the masses of people use to justify the use of violence and property destruction when bread riots and other political unrests erupt in many Arab countries. It simply means that "enough is enough", the wound is deep.
I believe that the Western nations will react (they cannot afford not to) as soon as they start to experience this sense of a dagger making it way to the bones, in order to save the Western democracy and lifestyle.
Posted by: TheRegulator at November 24, 2006 9:08 PM
Mr Spencer dear, no one cares what you have to say. The word is getting out that you are running from www.ExamineTheTruth.com
I literally took one minute to look over this site and the information and writing is really sub-par. At least make an attempt at being accurate and scholarly....
Here is a little "gem" I wanted to repost to give an indication of the "quality" of writing:
After listening to the Ahmed-Giron debate, the anti-Islam hate monger Ali Sina of FaithFreedom.org attempted to challenge the solid scientific evidence which demonstrates that the Quran is supernatual...
I feel like I am listening to some monster truck commerical or WWE/ECW promo. Give me a break....
Posted by: adobe at November 24, 2006 10:00 PM
I wonder if there is more to these assassinations than meets the eye.
Is it a coincidence that Russia has now delivered advanced weapons systems to Iran?
Did the ex-spy now murdered, die with a secret like Putin helping Iran's nuke program as a compromise for no more Beslan's or theater bombings in Moscow?
Mr Spencer dear, no one cares what you have to say...
Didn't say this a few weeks back? A transparent attempt at instigation if I am not mistaken.
Posted by: witness at November 24, 2006 10:15 PM
@USBeast
No offence taken and none meant. But of all the passages in the Koran, those that really matter such as murdering Jews and Christians, can you imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity going on a nationally broadcast television (NightLine for example) or radio program and discussing "spooge stains on mohammad's garments?"
No-wait. There is just such a nationally broadcast radio program. The host of which is just vile enough to delve deeply into this subject with relish. Complete with real-life demonstrations I'm sure.
I know this is a blog and much is fair game but come on, "spooge stains?" Oh well. To each his own. FWIW, I can take a joke.
at November 24, 2006 10:34 PM
www.ExamineTheTruth.com
is laughable. For instance, they attempt to show how Jesus obeyed the devil by allowing himself to be "taken" to the desert to be tempted.
The immams, so wise, so clever, think that they have thus "proven" that Jesus was not sinless and therefore Christianity is inferior to islam.
Convieniently, they leave out the last part where Jesus tells the devil to be gone; and that after the devil obeys Jesus, he is adminstered to by the host of heavenly angels, according to the gospel account.
So if God saw that Jesus had obeyed the devil, why would he send his angels to minister to him?
Therefore what ever is said against Jesus is forgivable according to the gospel, but since the immams have impunged the character of God, they have committed blasphamey, not against Jesus, but against God himself.
Immams are such liars and perverters of the truth and about as sharp as bowling balls.
The people that actually listen to them, have got to be pretty slow themselves, especially the dim-witted people who get their education from sites like: www.ExamineTheTruth.com
Posted by: witness at November 24, 2006 10:39 PM
witness, I haven't looked at www.ExamineTheTruth.com but I can assure our Muslim friends that Jesus never obeyed Satan. No scripture exists that even implies such. Jesus had to be a sinless sacrafice. Otherwise, His appearance among man was for naught.
All sins are forgivable (assuming the sinner is seeking forgiveness) save one: blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
"And since they chose not to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, greed, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness..." (Romans 1:28,29)
at November 25, 2006 3:29 AM
This article broke my heart.
If Israel loses their compass, where will we be? They are our front line, you know. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, may all that love her prosper!
God have mercy on all of us. We need it! I have read so many article this week that have upset my stomach, I am beginning to worry about an ulcer. If I see Contessa one more time.... eek!
Posted by: Kay at November 25, 2006 3:41 AM
The price Syria wants is for the USA to force Israel from the Golan Heights.
Israel publicly already said that was a no chance of ever happening. nuke syria and iran now!
at November 25, 2006 7:04 AM
After listening to the Ahmed-Giron debate, the anti-Islam hate monger Ali Sina of FaithFreedom.org attempted to challenge the solid scientific evidence which demonstrates that the Quran is supernatual...
Adobe, like you l felt incredulous that anyone would think the koran was supernatural. perhaps my thinking would be if it was supernatural if you said it was created by an evil entity ,such a the "devil" and that it creates brain washed people to go and kill people for their monterous hungry evil satan. yes than it could be regarded as supernaturaly evil!
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at November 25, 2006 7:09 AM
"And since they chose not to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, greed, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness..." (Romans 1:28,29)
Apt description of islam if ever I read one.
at November 25, 2006 10:10 AM
olmert is a mad fool groveling at the feet of the State Dept. Stop them all now. Diplomacy and peace processes are the road to war and mass murder!!!
Posted by: Eliyahu at November 26, 2006 7:44 AM
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