Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict the collapse of Iran...

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at November 27, 2006 10:20 AM

Today Glen Beck is talking about Mookie Sadr and his Mahdi army. Saying Mahdi=Antichrist

This means the hidden imam is the Antichrist. He's the Mahdi the Shiites have been waiting for. The Muslim false prophet idolatries, phony allah idolatries at their finest

Posted by: dennisw at November 27, 2006 10:25 AM

When will CNN show the world an interview with the Mahdi? It's just not fair that only A-Nut gets to see and talk with him and has to transmit all his messages. Let the Mahdi talk to the world with his own mouth. No doubt he will be asked some tough questions from that reputable news channel.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 27, 2006 10:33 AM

Daniel Pipes:
(In Twelver Shi'ite doctrine, the Hidden Imam returns just before the appearance of the mahdi.)

So the Hidden Imam is the herald of the Mahdi/Antichrist. According to Shi'ite delusions. I call Islam a collective hypnosis and delusion. Not a real religion. There are real religions that relate to a real God. Not a phony allah and evil Muhammad

All those Muslim rites such as Ramadan and 5x/day butts in the air is a form of are collective brainwashing and enforce conformity among the doubters. A doubter practices these rites and he gets brainwashed too. Especially when when he is brainwashed at a young age.

The Muslim imperative is to brainwash the young males and turn the females into breeding machines under the command and control of husbands and fathers and brothers

Posted by: dennisw at November 27, 2006 10:36 AM

The US and Israel will collaspe in laughter.....

Ahmadinejad will continue until he finally attacks Israel and the US and then all hell will break loose in the middel east........

this war will be fought with nukes.........for Israel will not fall without using the estimated 200 plus nukes in its arsenal........

America will also be nuked by the crazies in the cult of islam............it is when not if.......

are you prepared, armed and ready???????

God bless America, Israel, England, Australia, Canada, our Allies and our Fighting Forces and keep us free.

The Texican.
God, Family, American and Freedom, the only choice at any choice.

Posted by: Texican at November 27, 2006 10:37 AM

If current population trends hold, by merely being patient, Islamists will outnumber Westerners within a few decades. It would be in their best interests NOT to goad us into a fight now, when our superior technology could still win it for us.
Fortunately, their young and vital population has all the impatience of the young.
So maybe.. the Western culture that will collapse will be the PC culture. This would not be good for Ahmadinejad, et al.

Posted by: freedomschool at November 27, 2006 10:41 AM

This sounds like the kind of guy we can do business with.

I'm pleased he's taken Blair and Baker's talk about 'engagement' to heart.

Posted by: Alex at November 27, 2006 10:44 AM

I know you have all read it before but it seems like a good time to revisit the words of
SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM

1. The following was published 107 years ago in 1899.

2. It was authored by Winston Churchill who first became a household name forty years later during world turmoil leading up to WWII.

3. It was impossible for him to even imagine a fraction of the changes in technology or world politics yet to come.

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the inference of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Posted by: Mackie at November 27, 2006 10:55 AM

Daniel Pipes:
(In Twelver Shi'ite doctrine, the Hidden Imam returns just before the appearance of the mahdi.)

So the Hidden Imam is the herald of the Mahdi/Antichrist. According to Shi'ite delusions. I call Islam a collective hypnosis and delusion. Not a real religion. There are real religions that relate to a real God. Not a phony allah and evil Muhammad

All those Muslim rites such as Ramadan and 5x/day butts in the air is a form of are collective brainwashing and enforce conformity among the doubters. A doubter practices these rites and he gets brainwashed too. Especially when when he is brainwashed at a young age.

The Muslim imperative is to brainwash the young males and turn the females into breeding machines under the command and control of husbands and fathers and brothers

You're right
... and not before kissing a black stone in Mekka.

As they say - Idolatry is against islam.

Posted by: Arnie at November 27, 2006 10:58 AM

Got to love that ...

Iran Restricts Broadband Speeds to Save Islamic
Culture

NewswireToday - /newswire/ - Delhi, New Delhi, India, 11/27/2006 - Islamic government of Iran is debarring Internet links of high-speed as an effort to dampen its internal political clashes and to battle against the western culture's influence.


Government of Iran is limiting the download speeds of Internet to keep its younger generation away from outside influences that can undermine its Islamic culture. The service providers in the country have been instructed to restrict download speed to 128 Kbps. It will make the download of foreign music and video from Internet difficult.

http://www.newswiretoday.com/news/11081/

Posted by: Arnie at November 27, 2006 11:05 AM

Imanutjob is good at wishful thinking.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 27, 2006 11:09 AM

Jim Baker is Senior Partner in Baker Botts which is defending Saudi Arabia in a 9-11 lawsuit. Baker is co-chairman with Lee Hamilton of the Iraq Study Group.

It was speculated that the Bush team was headed towards a regional conference including Saudi Arabia, Iran and Syria.

At least they won't invite Hezbollah, Hamas, al Qaeda, and the Taliban.

Info and links on Baker Botts

Total Fertiliy Rate Near East Map

Iraq is 6.1 and Afghanistan 6.0. This may be why occupations don't work in those two countries. Occupation in high TFR countries may be more difficult.

Saudi Arabia has a TFR of 6.4 and Pakistan 4.9.
Iran is 4.3. This may be why they supply foreign fighters.

Asia Map Fertility

Posted by: Old Atlantic at November 27, 2006 11:14 AM

Ahmadinejad said/wrote:

Me ahmadinejad, me crybaby! Me want be uropean! The before christ muslim farters called parsians tring to get into uropean onion but bad uropean kafirs (bad, very very bad) didn't like slottered! Thi send a bad uropean colled Alaxandar Da Great and he ticheas as to be houmans and not f_ck goats and camals, but we risist ind becume igain muslams. Why uropean you no like bin slotter? Why not spil you blood for me Goat ind Profit Muhhamad The Grape??? Why not breeng you dotters ind moders ind gwifes bin raped in da name uf Allah?

Then a nuke falls in Iran and Ahmadinejad goes to meet the 72 virgins, though after a little he understands that he is in hell and the only 72 virgins that he will see (and not touch) are in a poster hanging opposite of the shit-pool that he is burning in.

Posted by: AllahIsDead at November 27, 2006 12:08 PM

FreedomSchool said:
"If current population trends hold, by merely being patient, Islamists will outnumber Westerners within a few decades. "

I have seen the birth rates for these islamic countries, but what are the death rates? Could it be a wash?

Posted by: Black Dog at November 27, 2006 12:17 PM

Black Dog said:

I have seen the birth rates for these islamic countries, but what are the death rates? Could it be a wash?

Maybe that's why they are threatening the Western World. In order to increase their death rates...

Posted by: AllahIsDead at November 27, 2006 12:21 PM

... and hundreds of thousands of moderate muslims worldwide responded to Ahmanidajed's comments with mass demonstrations, burning Ahmanidajed's picture, and demanding Ahmanidajed immediately retract his statements and stop hijacking the religion of peace...

Posted by: godfreyofbouillon at November 27, 2006 12:37 PM

Ahmadinejad not mad,.....heres the proof !

http://moshiach.forumsplace.com/message1259.html

Soon he will receive revelations from Allah via
the angel Gabriel telling him it`s ok to nuke
Israel !

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at November 27, 2006 12:49 PM

Why do we have no leaders? It is time to protest in the streets, to get the media attention. Why are we all standing like deer in the glare of headlights? We need to move. Why are we leaderless?

Posted by: Kay at November 27, 2006 12:53 PM

Why do we have no leaders? It is time to protest in the streets, to get the media attention. Why are we all standing like deer in the glare of headlights? We need to move. Why are we leaderless?

Posted by: Kay at November 27, 2006 12:53 PM

Half of the population of the country now known as the Islamic Republic of Iran consists of non-Persians: Kurds right next to a possibly independent Kurdistan in what is now northern Iraq, Azeris (some of them next to Azerbaijan), Baluchis, and Arabs in Khuzistan, where in a kind of mirror-image of Saudi Arabia just across the Persian -- or is it now the Arabian --Gulf, as the Arabs have carefully renamed it?m where almost all of Iran's oil is to be found.

They can be encouraged, they can be supplied with arms, they can take heart from each other's fight against the Islamic Republic of Iran. It is not the United States or Great Britain, or Israel that are likely to collapse before the Islamic Republic of Iran, and Iran itself, does. But Ahadinejad cannot conceive of the Western world aiding those Kurds, Baluchis, Azeris, Arabs.

Why has he been allowed to be so sanguine? Why has he not been made to worry, constantly, and without end, and eager to compromise, eager to please -- if he wants what remains of the Persian Empire to remain part of Iran?

Posted by: Hugh at November 27, 2006 1:00 PM

Hidden imam... Is that like a 'Secret Santa'?

Posted by: Black Dog at November 27, 2006 1:20 PM

funny thing Muslims like I'm a nut job and been predicting the collapse of Israel since 1947 in Israel still here. I predict how nut job will be roasting in hell long before Israel or USA and England are long gone nation of that of England and around for over a thousand years and the Islamic Republic of Iran has only been around for about 25 years main danger is in Iran manages to build their nuclear bombs with inman'sbeliefs that they have a direct line to Allah and the believers that think they can do no wrong and Islam is to be the only religion in the world considering they were supporting the nasties in WW two and mine kamph is the most popular book asked the Koran in Muslim countries it's not surprising that would have the same philosophy towards the West and paranoiaas the Germans did in World War II and like the Germans and HitlerI'manutjob ban the mullahs must be stopped. Really problem it is how do you deprogram several hundred million people in Iran been affected by I'm a nut jobs delusion's

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 27, 2006 1:34 PM

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad predicted the collapse of Israel, the U.S. and Britain, attacking what he called their ``oppressive behavior.''
................

Assuming he really believes his words, and is not just spouting outrageous propaganda, this would be considered "projection" in psychological terms.

He refers to three of the freest and most just nations in the world and complains about their "oppressive behavior". This, of course, from the head of one of the most genuinly oppressive regimes in the world today.

On another thread, Sheik yer'mami posted an interesting link (I hope he doesn't mind me reposting here):

... very good link about Mohammedan propaganda tecnique called 'turnspeak'-

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/turnspeak.html
.............

I can't believe that some pundits are seriously suggesting that coalition forces (mostly the US, of course) should look to Iran and Syria for help in stabalizing Iraq--two of the regimes that have done the most to *destabablize* that country.

It is not exactly analagous, but would be rather like the Western powers, concerned about unrest in Czechoslovakia and Austria circa 1937, deciding that the best they could do would be to "open dialogue" with Chancellor Hitler, since Germany was such an influential neighbor to these nations.

....................

Posted by: gravenimage at November 27, 2006 1:39 PM

I predict that some coalition will bomb Iran back into the stone age where it belongs

Posted by: NicephorusPhocas at November 27, 2006 1:44 PM

Why do we have no leaders? It is time to protest in the streets, to get the media attention. Why are we all standing like deer in the glare of headlights? We need to move. Why are we leaderless?
--- Kay

Ahmedinejad is right. We're bringing about our own demise, through our suicidal, self-imposed political correctness.
--- US_Infidel

We are leaderless and collectively suicidal because to admit the cold, hard truth would be offensive. Not only to Moslems, but to Leftists, who make up pretty much the balance of the world's population. Try this on for size for offensiveness:

Islam is the greatest problem on earth. It a force for bad without equal in world history. All Moslems, without exception, are reprobates. Incompatible with civilization, freedom, art, beauty, and peace, Islam must be criminalized, isolated, and eventually snuffed out in its entirity. There is no more important project than the elimination of Islam from the face of the Earth.

Offended?

* 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 *

President Mahmoud is not insane. He is a perfectly reasonable leader saying and doing the right things as dictated by his faith, such as that is. He is a very honest Moslem who sees no further need for pussy footing around. He is a can do guy.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 27, 2006 1:46 PM

Got to love that ...
Iran Restricts Broadband Speeds to Save Islamic
Culture
NewswireToday - /newswire/ - Delhi, New Delhi, India, 11/27/2006 - Islamic government of Iran is debarring Internet links of high-speed as an effort to dampen its internal political clashes and to battle against the western culture's influence.

Does it matter what speed they obtain thier
animal pornography at ?
Top six searches by region for animal sex are...

1. Pakistan
2. Algeria
3. Morocco
4. India
5. Iran
6. Egypt

Indonesia are ninth.

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at November 27, 2006 2:21 PM

Dirty animals. And, given 33:21, betcha the same crowd's right up there in the statistics for kiddie porn searches, no?

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 27, 2006 2:45 PM

I posted this under the proper topic (immolating imams or something like that), but there seems to be evidence that the story about the burning iraqis at a mosque is BS...
http://floppingaces2.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Black Dog at November 27, 2006 2:51 PM

Top 10 searches by region for man boy sex are.....
1. Pakistan
2. Iran
3. Saudi Arabia
4. Egypt
5. United Arab Emirates
6. Viet Nam
7. Thailand
8. India
9. Malaysia
10. Philippines

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at November 27, 2006 2:52 PM

Hey Texican!

Im ready!

Posted by: crusader619 at November 27, 2006 3:04 PM

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE THREAT --free excellent documentary on the issues of islam and the west. its threat to America and the free world. Good gathering of recent history and EXCELLENT summation of the threat as its stands today in all its aspects, including getting muslims to fight or agitate establish Islamic Caliphite (Islamic capital for the world) in WHATEVER country they find themselves. lots of stuff on the threat to America as well. PLEASE WATCH !

Wake- Up!...and Smell the Threat (Part 1 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ki75TYXFI

Wake-Up!...and Smell the Threat (Part 2 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su6hlrr824w

Wake-Up!...and Smell the Threat (Part 3 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUAy9DEzls4

Wake-Up!...and Smell the Threat (Part 4 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJfeNBeRN1k

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 3:23 PM

part 4 in the documentary above has a brief history of Adam Gadahn) that is the guy who "invitated" (threatened) Robert Spencer for Islam. Robert Spencer responded in FrontPage

see here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/013000.php

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 3:27 PM

AMERICANINGERMANY Hi --yes its probably your connection --do you have high speed connection. The lower speed connection you have to the internet the longer you have to wait for your system to "buffer" load the video onto your virtual memory. when I had a low connection before I upgraded I let a video load while I did something else sorry thats the only way.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 3:31 PM

Ho hum, another prediction of doom for us all brought to us by A-Nut. He must be of the belief that if he says it enough times these things will come to pass. I guess he must be having trouble finding fools crazy enough to carry out his prediction-never let an Iranian do what a palestinian or syrian or some other fool can do for you.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 27, 2006 3:40 PM

Islamforlosers I like what you said in the other thread about shutting the damn doors.

I believe the first step is pointing out that when new immgrants of Islamic beliefs PLEDGE allegiance to the US when they are sworn in --cannot do so honestly because in the Quran it says that they first belong to the nation of allah.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 4:24 PM

They can be encouraged, they can be supplied with arms, they can take heart from each other's fight against the Islamic Republic of Iran. It is not the United States or Great Britain, or Israel that are likely to collapse before the Islamic Republic of Iran, and Iran itself, does. But Ahadinejad cannot conceive of the Western world aiding those Kurds, Baluchis, Azeris, Arabs.

Why has he been allowed to be so sanguine? Why has he not been made to worry, constantly, and without end, and eager to compromise, eager to please -- if he wants what remains of the Persian Empire to remain part of Iran?

Hugh,
Are you serious? Just whom do you think will aid the Kurds, Arabs and all the other minorities in Iran? Russia? France? America?
Why should we believe anything they tell us about their intentions? We were deceived by the Shia of Iraq into aiding them because we believed doing so would not empower Iran. They lied. A Muslim deception? Look at the result.
Do you really think that the Arabs won't be looking to join the jihad or that the rest of them won't turn on us once Tehran is off their backs? What about Turkey? Wouldn't you expect them to do what they can to prevent it, much as they did at the start of the Iraq war, when they pulled the rug out from under our military?
Where are the French? They love oppressed minorities as much as anyone. Let THEM put their money where their mouths are.
Iran continues to threaten sovereign nations. What price have they paid for any of it? Where is the rest of the civilized world? They stood by while our diplomats were held for 444 days in total contempt for international norms. Iran suffers no ill effects for one reason: they have oil. It's why they won't suffer now, either.
Only the Iranians (Persian or not) can free themselves. Once they're free we can welcome them into the family of nations, but they have to make the choice and they have to take the risk.
We should NEVER intervene. We shouldn't even imply that we might.

Posted by: PMK at November 27, 2006 4:37 PM

What? Only Israel, U.S. and UK? That's it? What makes those three so special?

I'm sure the rest of Europe and every other non-muslim nation is waving their arms in the air asking: "What about us Ahmadinejad?" "Don't leave us out!"
Posted by: americaningermany

I'm sure he's doing a "divide and conquer" bit with that one. The English-speakers off from the "continental" Europeans.

Isn't it funny how all the PC folk are so busy worrying about all those "neo-nazis" in Germany and elsewhere too when the real neo-nazis are in Iran and in the rest of the Middle East these days. Indonesia also has a good share of these fools.

God blees the Pope!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 27, 2006 5:27 PM

AMERICANINGERMANY you are so right (as usual).
Maaan if we did not need their oil! Thats why countries like my own (Canada) are working steadily to purify oil at even a higher level and rate at the tar sands of the western prairies. And there are innitiatives like this
http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/about.php

popping up everywhere.

If the free world did not need Arab oil or better yet found a way not to need ANY oil (through alternative power sources) the muslim world would slink back quickly into the quagmire its always been back into the obscurity of its desert beginnings.
They're backward systems of governments simply cannot keep up with 21st century first world captalism of the democratic free world.

Western science is working on it:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/matter_energy/alternative_fuels/

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 5:30 PM

Iraq killed hundreds of thousands more Iranians during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war than the U.S., U.K., and Israel ever has combined. And yet even though he lived through it all, Ahmadinejad still thinks the latter is guilty of "oppressive behavior" and the former not, even tho' he can credit only the latter for making it possible now for him to meet with an Iraqi president in the first place?

Posted by: yadayada at November 27, 2006 5:35 PM

Islam is not worthy of the Persian (iranian) people.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 5:37 PM

here's to hoping they will wake up too and leave Islam before we have to nuke Iran to stop the madman and his whispering hidden Imam.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 5:39 PM

we have a name for that whispering hidden Imam over in the Christian churches. We call him: Satan.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 5:40 PM

High ranking Iranian police commander, Eskandar Moemeni, told the Fars news agency that three people who initially survived the crash of the Antonov 74 died on their way to hospital.

"An engine failure and veering from the runway resulted in the crash," he said.

The chief commander of the Islamic republic's Revolutionary Guards, General Yahya Rahim Safavi, did not rule out sabotage but added it was "too soon to elaborate on the cause of the crash until the investigations are over."
Posted by: DavidE

Debka has an uncorroborated report that there may have been "foul play" involved. I tend to think that claim would be made to cover up the bad state of the iranian air fleet. I bet the rest of their military isn't quite up to snuff either. THAT is something they DON'T want us to know!

Which doesn't mean these wackos aren't dangerous - at least as long as our homegrown Fifth Column compreised of the ACLU, BBC, NPR crowd keeps runninng off to find an activist judge each and every time any little change in our law is made to balance out some of these glaring loopholes in surveillance and interrogation techniques. And don't get me started on how hard it is to deport these a@@holes!!

NOONE BUT OURSELVES CAN FREE OUR MINDS!!

I hold the Liberals responsable for this mess! The jihadists are merely walking in through the open door that these traitors are holding for them. They are goose-stepping all over us on the red carpet of our blood.. paid for by the funds that these sneaky politicians are daily extracting from our pockets in form of "protection money" tax. Only thing is I really don't feel very protected these days...

I am glad there are people on this and other boards who are at least getting prepared mentally to stand up to this menace.

Thank you all for being here. It is the greatest news in these dark days!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 27, 2006 6:00 PM

Oh.. on the airplane crash..

WHY exdactly did the US government recently authorize the sale of airplane parts to Iran??!!

We're boycotting little tiny Cuba who IMHO can't really do very much of anything to us but here we go and sell items of a strategical value to an enemy who is constantly stating his ill intentions not only toward Israel, but also the rest of the Western Countries.

WHY are we selling these people these airplane pparts? Are we that short on cash? Let's save on foreign aid instead of selling things like spare partsd to iran so they can fix up their air craft.

Makes NO sense to me at all. Maybe we need some Union workers to refuse to laod the transports like they did in WW2.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 27, 2006 6:06 PM

"WHY are we selling these people these airplane pparts? Are we that short on cash? Let's save on foreign aid instead of selling things like spare partsd to iran so they can fix up their air craft.

Makes NO sense to me at all. Maybe we need some Union workers to refuse to laod the transports like they did in WW2.

Posted by: germaninamerica "

I don't know if the US is selling them parts,
but I just saw on the tv news that Iran is blaming the US for this air crash due to the fact that US sancctions have not allowed these parts into Iran. I have no links etc,
but I KNEW they would blame the US and/or Israel for this,,,no surprises there!

Posted by: Gramfan at November 27, 2006 6:20 PM

Americaningermany I think we will only hear the truth when Iran has ready nukes and then people will say "oh he was SERIOUS!" !

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 6:22 PM

ok,,here is a link but it doesn't actually lay any blame as yet.

http://www.skynews.com.au/story.asp?id=140836

Iran plane crash
An Iranian military plane has crashed in the capital Tehran, killing at least 36 members of the elite Revolutionary Guard.

The plane, an Antonov-74, went down immediately after take-off.

There are reports another three people have died in hospital, which would bring the toll to 39.

The plane was bound for Shiraz, about a 1,000 kilometres to the south.

An investigation into the cause of the plane crash is underway, though findings are expected to take a while.

It's the latest in a string of aviation disasters in Iran over the past year.

In January 11 people were killed in a plane crash, while over 100 people died when another military plane struck a tower block in Tehran, last December

Posted by: Gramfan at November 27, 2006 6:23 PM

While I also enjoyed laughing at the muslim munchkins (yes, he's very short) remarks that currently amount to "Surrender Dorothy!", we're heading for the same fatal mistake we made before:
Assumption.

Since there' too much to detail I'll make summary comments...

1) read Sun Tzu...NEVER underestimate the enemy.
2) See the pattern of his intent...especially his sock puppets like Hesbollah in Lebanon and such. it suggests a pattern of the same asymmetric warfare mentioned in the book "Unrestricted Warfare" by Chinese intelligence officers (hint).
3) Yes on the oil comment. Canada is now our #1 importer of oil (see eia/DOE public records), 32 is Mexico...Saudi dropped to #5, and so on. That's reason #1 crude dropped recently...not politics.
4) Remember, many of these lunatics are not the stereotypical bedouins, but college educated, and are relentlessly pursuing a course of attack, and all infidels are the target, regardless of politics.
5) They are deliberately coordinating their rhetoric with the hope of a hostile response from us, just to justify their claims that we started something...and so on as per the munchkins apocalypse drivel.
6) If they get the bomb they WILL use it, they WILL pass it on to the "enemy of their enemiy", and so on.
7) We're not dealing with reasonable folks (yes, I know you are aware of it), nor are they doing this from a position of strength, but of desperation.
They want "engagement" to gain credibility.
That is the last thing we should do, feed the monster...like the old saying "give a mouse a crumb, he'll want the whole cookie...give him a cookie and he'll want a glass of milk." Give him the milk, he'll then want an entire meal...it won't end.
You do NOT give the enemy what it wants, especially since these people are the cery same ones who are behind the terrorism in the first place.

It's quite simple...if we win, they lose, not just a war, but everything they are about.
Their entire imam/mullahocracy power & control racket collapses, their entire propaganda racket about how evil everyone else is and how infallible they are collapses...ok, you get the idea.
We're dealing with a blend of SS troops with an bushido-like ideology of the Japanese Empire.
For all intents and purposes, they're terminator units..."it can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, and absolutely will not stop...until you are dead."
I dealt with them in the 80s, and we tried feverishly to warn of them but to no avail, while everyone laughed at them then, too...and shrugged them off as if no concern.

So while I find it equally enjoyable to laugh at this islami-commie lunatic, let's not make the same mistake by sloughing off such venemous rhetoric as if it's empty words of an impotent nobody.

Netanyahu is right, as it's age-old advice:
"When someone says they wish to exterminate you, believe it."
There is always a way to defeat anyone...and, one way, or another, they WILL find it...if we are not vigilant.

Semper Vigilans

Posted by: jcom972 at November 27, 2006 6:25 PM

http://www.abo-ali.com/mp3/jr7_jdeed.mp3
Posted by: Al Saheed Al Kuffar

THAT does sound SCARY!! LOL!!! Good one!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 27, 2006 6:26 PM

I don't know if the US is selling them parts,
but I just saw on the tv news that Iran is blaming the US for this air crash due to the fact that US sancctions have not allowed these parts into Iran. I have no links etc,
but I KNEW they would blame the US and/or Israel for this,,,no surprises there!
Posted by: Gramfan

I read that a few days.. maybe a couple of weeks ago in some thread on this list. Too bad I can't recall the thread, but whoever wrote that sounded credible to my limited judgement. And I have no reason to believe that the Powers-that-be are always ready for a good "deal" when they can make one. Including selling their souls to the devil and all of us down the river.

OH and now they want to blame US for their planes not working!! Maybe when they try to set off a nuke and it fizzles they'll blame us for witholding technical assistance?!

What rhetorical absurdity will they pull out of their slimy smelly beards next?

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 27, 2006 6:33 PM

more of this idiotic stuff here :

http://www.infovlad.net/?page_id=154
Posted by: Al Saheed Al Kuffar

These wanna-be Salieris don't have even an ounce of talent. Sad.. really bad timeing too. And everything awash in way too much reverb.

What a bunch of freaks!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 27, 2006 6:40 PM

americaningermany

I know it wasn't a good link, but so far that is all I found. The same site on its tv news said earlier, as I mentioned, they are blaming the US.Seems they have retracted that bit?

I have checked all the MSM here in OZ - nothing!

Posted by: Gramfan at November 27, 2006 6:56 PM

I do recall seeing some Iranian expats on tv in the US that say the Iranians are very likely to revolt.

(ok,they are already revolting,lol - couldn't resist!)

The younger generation doesn't want any of this stupid sharia-shit.

Now if only all muslims countries could implode,,,,,life would be so much better!!

Posted by: Gramfan at November 27, 2006 6:59 PM

As evidenced by the comments on this thread, they are a sick group. Necrophilia, Bestiality, Pedophilia, Fratricide, Rape/Homicide, Unbelievable, that is the word for those who apologize/cover up for their disgraceful behavior. Yes, it is a mental illness or several of them combined. It is primarily their upbringing, they think if they raise a generation of Ted Bundy’s they will terrorize or kill us all. What did we do to Bundy in Florida? If they think the women of America will go into slavery quietly they are sorely mistaken. http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/06/11/26/10085308.html

BTW. Son of Sam was getting instructions from the Dog, that’s right Dog, next door. Yep, the dog told him to do it so he did.

Posted by: tgusa at November 27, 2006 7:00 PM

"Gramfan,

It's better than anything I've heard here. But you know the MSM in Europe...if they HAVE to report it, they'll lie anyway.

Posted by: americaningermany "

AIM,

I am guessing that like myself you get all the good oil from Jihadwatch and Little Green Footballs.
My other main source is Andrew Bolt at the Herald Sun. People say he is a right -winger. I think he is extremely smart and articulate.
He covers many issues, local and international.

He is not afraid to highlight islamic issues that the MSM here won't touch.He is often mentioned here and on LGF.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/

Yesterday he posted the link to Glenn Becks's piece on radical islam. I am sure it is still there.Also the piece from Dhimmiwatch re halal Christmas in the UK.The blog went into overdrive!

Posted by: Gramfan at November 27, 2006 7:07 PM

AmericaninGermany and anybody interested would you like to come talk to our new "muslim" friend Oben d'Imishte currently posting at:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014184.php

who has been giving GreekGurl a hard time? he insists a way a true 'believer' could only insist ..

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 27, 2006 7:19 PM

It could. But if it was demons don’t you think they would have chosen a more reliable vehicle of expression, like a jihadi? All the same, I think it is all BS, an excuse to get away with anything they want to do and not take responsibility. Sound familiar?

Posted by: tgusa at November 27, 2006 7:20 PM

Ahmadinejad has been very plain about his plans. This "prediction" is just another restatement of those plans. Last summer, he offered us a chance to join Islam and avoid conflict. We correctly rejected his offer. Now, he is simply preparing to attack and defeat us. The question is whether our leaders will take Ahmadinejad at his word, or whether they will try to appease him.

And, the following seems appropriate:

As Jesus, the Son of God, said: "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." - Matthew 7:16-20

The fruits of Islam have been consistently corrupt and evil. But, what should we expect from the Church of the Devil.

Posted by: Bad_Attitude_Infidel at November 27, 2006 7:24 PM

I did not suggest we should strike...that is exactly what they want, (along with credibility), and the rest of the gullible world media will follow the lead, hook, line and sinker, as they have shown for a very long time. It is also not a viable option...yet.

I simply said let's not let down our guard when laughing at them, and deny them that which they need so desperately: credibility.

The best way to hit them where it hurts...
aid those inside Iran who are working to overthrow the mullahocracy (yes, even the student groups who aided the overthrow of the shah. The same ones are now realizing this mullahocracy is not what they had in mind) Remember, almost half the country does not support that lunatic.

As for the air crashes, besides their lack of maintenance and brand names of such *ahem* notoriety, it wouldn't surprise me if there was sabotage...from within.
The munchkin has the same type of presidential guard arrangement that saddam (pron. SAD'um) the bootlicker did...that should be a really big clue.
Only the heirarchy are considered by me as vermin.
Anyone who professes such lunacy deserves the title.

The rank and file follower is merely the perennial "useful idiot" trying to survive (their presence on the air is directly purportionate to the presence of the TV camera...another big clue).
Kill the credibility, and you kill the initiative.
The rest will collapse in on itself as civil war or some conflagration from within.

Remember, they're not in the position they'd like us to think they are in (i.e.=if they initiate a total embargo TODAY, we'll last 71 days before shutdown- they'll last 3 weeks max before total collaspe without oil revenue. Their inflation is horrific. We don't get any oil from them, but much of europe does, and they will use that asymmetric angle to force europe into their camp. Like the old Marine adage "If you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow."). Problem is, it's a standoff of sorts...for now.

So I think we should (if not already) finance those inside iran, and let them take care of it, as they have begged us to do. After all, the munchkins minions have been doing that to the west for decades now...tit for tat.

They're playing for time on oil, too...not just nukes. Recently, they signed a deal to upgrade & modernize their refining and extraction capacity with someone they know that, if we attack THEN, their "big brother" will get involved. The deal was with SinoPec, and big brother is CHINA.
(If you think China isn't involved with all this you're fatally naive. How else do you think iran & north korea got together in the first place?)
Kim Jong-Il isn't the only one who's "RoneRy".

We prefer to save the bulk of our forces for what we call "The Big Event"...stay vigilant, don't let our laughter of the lunatic end up as complacency, and start playing them at their own game instead of this suicidal PC moronathon, which is the ONLY "quagmire" we're stuck in.

Like I said...read Sun Tzu.

Posted by: jcom972 at November 27, 2006 7:36 PM

"Just whom do you think will aid the Kurds, Arabs and all the other minorities in Iran? Russia? France? America?"
-- from a posting above

It is in the interest of a great many parties to extend modest military aid -- no more is needed, the locals will do the rest -- to Kurds (from the Kurds in the area they now control in what is still northern Iraq, but possibly not for long), to Azeris (Azeris in Azerbaijan, for example, might relish the thought of a larger Azeri area at the expense of the Islamic Republic of Iran), the Arabs (oh, all kinds of Sunni Arabs, and non-Arabs, might wish to keep the Islamic Republic of Iran frantic over the possibility of losing control of its main oil region, without which it becomes -- nothing at all; and Baluchis -- well, any and everyone who does not wish the regime in Iran well.

This does not require anything like an invasion or even much in the way of advanced weaponry. Just some radio and television and Internet propaganda, and modest supplies of weapons suitable for guerrilla warfare against the Iranian government. That's enough to keep the Islamic Republic deeply disturbed and distracted.

Posted by: Hugh at November 27, 2006 7:57 PM

Yet in the face of this, I find this written in my local paper Letters to the Editor section tonight by some imbecile:

" A better idea then attacking Iran"

We should invite an Iranian to occupy a spot on our next shuttle launch. Why not include these people in our plan for the future instead of "bombing them into the stone age" ? Seems like a better idea then the course we're on. "

Posted by: TheRegulator at November 27, 2006 9:42 PM

TheRegulator,
Imbeciles or maybe retarded people directing us? Retarded, I have sympathy for not imbeciles. Sadly we are going to have to absorb the hit. I think you know what that means. It aint pretty but maybe we will be better off without NY or SF. Sadly they have seen and embraced their destiny.

Posted by: tgusa at November 27, 2006 9:52 PM

Do our politicians listen to what this madman says?
If they do then how in the hell could anyone with an IQ above 75 come to the conclusion that Iran and Syria could help with Iraq? They honestly must have their heads shoved deep in the ground. I think it would be a HUGE mistake to involve Syria and Iran in whatever we decide to do with Iraq.

When will we have politicians in our government that will look out for America's best interests instead of their own, being PC and the next election?

Posted by: Suz at November 27, 2006 10:21 PM

Funny how the Son of Sam was mentioned above. It seems like A-Nut has become the Mahdi's lapdog for making these announcements. What needs to be done with him is what's done with all mad dogs.

I've wondered for quite a while why this kook got elected in the first place. The Iranians are not stupid people-they must have seen what a crackpot this guy was from the start. I've heard that the Iranians love conspiracy theories,that many believe that Satan Khomeini was actually installed at the behest of the US and that most Iranians are not happy living under the thumb of a bunch of dirty old perverts. Maybe these people elected A-Nut knowing that the West would find him so obnoxious that it would do the dirty work of overthrowing the muleocracy for them. If that's the case then we had better do something more than just issuing deadlines that are always ignored and give those people a little help.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 27, 2006 11:16 PM

If they think the women of America will go into slavery quietly they are sorely mistaken.

tgusa, apparently you haven't been watching The View, Oprah, Paula Zahn, and other premier opinion celbrity shows targeting women.

Anti-Dhimmi American women are as rare as Unicorns. There is no Orianna Falacci or Bat Y'eor in these parts, except Diana West. Even Ann Coulter has fallen silent on Islam.

American women have fallen into line for domestic Sharia, and seem quite content, subliminally at least, with where they're headed, and look forward to Nancy & Hillary to boldly blaze the trail there.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 28, 2006 1:11 AM

* 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 *

033.021
YUSUFALI: Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.
PICKTHAL: Verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.
SHAKIR: Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.

Posted by: dennisw at November 28, 2006 3:02 AM