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While the imams continue to do all they can to make this into an incident that will end all scrutiny of Muslims in airports, US Airways is still refusing to kowtow. From RTTNews, with thanks to Twostellas:
(RTTNews) - A spokeswoman for the US Airways Group Inc, the operator of the plane from which the six imams were removed on last Monday, expressed regret at the incident and said that the company is planning to meet with the imams later this week.US Airways Group Inc. spokeswoman Andrea Rader said that the prayer was never the issue. She added that one passenger mistook the imams to be saying what he thought were anti-U.S. statements and informed the flight crew. Moreover the imams were moving about in the plane which forced the flight crew to consult with the airline about whether they might pose a security risk, she said.
"We're sorry the imams had a difficult time, but we do think the crews have to make these calls and we think they made the right one," she said.
Posted by Robert at November 28, 2006 2:32 AM
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They want to meet with there imams and that's not a kowtow? I'm heading to Florida on SONGAIR!!
I demand that USAIR meet with ME because I am OFFENDED they are meeting with terrorist imams.
Lord have MERCY on us all!
And just because it's so much fun:
http://www.care2.com/c2c/photos/view/26/411844659/503247869/465496103.html
one more time.. see the momobots SPIN and SPIN and SPIN.. SPIN you slimy derwishes of death!! See them SPIN... SPIN..... they're... OUT OF THIS WOOOOOOOOOOORLD!!! Yankeedood should get this quote. If he lives in NYC.
By the way, moslems.. something to REALLY make u SPIN: We've been feeding ground-up pigs to the cows and sheep we raise for food both in Europe and the USA. GUESS what U've been eating all this time u spent in OUR LANDS!!!!!!
Joke's on U. U can't go to heaven with alla-balla. Now u r traif. look it up. it's a Yiddish term. [I think]
Posted by: germaninamerica
at November 28, 2006 2:43 AM
In the post 911 world Prayers in Airports by Muslims is just not a good idea . Of course we can't expect any Turnspeaking Islamist to understand or at the very least have any human compassion as to why that should be . It's irrelevant to them that their Religion has declared it's intention to bring down the West, and Make us Bow down to Islam. Too bad they don't raise one millionth of a stink over People getting beheaded on TV or Muslims blowing themselves up , or HIJACKING AIRPLANES AND FLYING THEM INTO BUILDINGS! , in the name of Islam. Nah .the fact that they can't see this is a good indicator of who we are dealing with. To them this is worse than the atrocities their religion is perpetrating on us?
Of course it is. LOL
Posted by: DUGGY
at November 28, 2006 2:49 AM
US Airways right on!!
"We're sorry the imams had a difficult time, but we do think the crews have to make these calls and we think they made the right one," she said.
hi americaningermany ! Its almost 3 am here but I cant sleep lol
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at November 28, 2006 2:49 AM
Arabs--imams or not--moving about aircraft should make any American (non-Moslem) nervous. seeing bunches of young Arab males makes me vigilant. Why are they here? What are they? Workers? Jihadists? Who knows? How can one tell?
Vigilance is the answer. Do not brush any concern aside as the person who was with me did when I observed a pack of such Arabs in a market, saying "But they are American Arabs, aren't they?"
If these were, they were not fully Americanized as they spoke loudly in Arabic, laughing, acting as if they owned the world.
Now, if I hear Spanish, I am not concerned. With Arabic, however, this is not the case.
What were these Arabs doing near a large U.S. military installation? Simply passing through?
Was there any security agency aware of their presence? Most likely not, as that would be categorized as "racial" profiling.
How about "ideological" profiling? Or profiling "potential enemies?"
Many questions and no answers.
Posted by: unicorns62000
at November 28, 2006 2:54 AM
yes they were praying to Allah that he help saddam aand were loud about it, isnt that nice?!
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at November 28, 2006 2:57 AM
DUGGY said
To them this is worse than the atrocities their religion is perpetrating on us?
Of course it is. LOL
yes Im laughing with you. They really are something else. EXTREME malignant narcissism. very disturbed individuals.
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at November 28, 2006 2:59 AM
Robert
The headline is misleading. Saying "We're sorry the imams had a difficult time" is not the same as expressing 'Regret At Removal Of Imams From Flight'. How can they do the latter when they are still defending the crew?
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at November 28, 2006 3:13 AM
Infidel Pride,
Because they are sorry the Imams didn't like it , but....
get it?
It's a sign o the times my man. It's our duty to be Vigilant . It's also a good idea for Muslims to show some compassion and discretion as well.
but we won't hold our breath for that.
The Crew did the right thing. they went on the info available at the time. Political Correctness does not always favor those situations. a call had to be made, and i for one agree with it. get over it.
at November 28, 2006 3:21 AM
Good Morning, oh ye who cannot sleep!
This is so awesome that U.S. Airways is standing up, but then, what else can they do? If they don't stand up to these guys then they are finished because you can't run a business where you are liable for peoples' safety and then have no control over implementing safety measures. The next step will be for Imams United to create B.S. lawsuits aimed at U.S. Airways for NOT protecting people against saftey issues. We live in hell!
In my dream world though, the Imams shut down all the airports and the airlines go out of business. Then they have to blow things up using their bicycles or little red wagons, (not as efficient when you are trying to kill a lot of folks.) All the Americans get really ticked because we can no longer get to business meetings or Cancun in the middle of January. Everybody joins the NRA in droves and we all start cleaning up our own backyards. Illegal immigration ends; whining Imams and their mamas are wrapped up in those Hefty bags, shipped back and deposited in the nearest ME desert. All our boys come home from Iraq and that becomes Amadinnerheads big problem, NOT ours.
Hey as long as I'm at it, how about the Redskins win at least every other game in a season. Naw, now I'm really getting out of reality.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at November 28, 2006 3:23 AM
IsabellaTheCrusader my prayer is that YOUR dream become manifest on earth. What a christmas gift that would be! Im getting my hefty bags ready...
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at November 28, 2006 3:44 AM
You guys, I just caught this on Drudge. Check it out.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061128-122902-7522r.htm
I guess a lot of Americans are NOT motivated to be dhimmis.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at November 28, 2006 3:46 AM
Hi Allies,
How're you doing? I should be sleeping but I had some work to do on the computer and saw you rabble-rousers were up and chatting.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at November 28, 2006 3:47 AM
Duggy
You misread me. I support the eviction of the Imams, but questioned Robert's choice of words in putting together the above headline. Nowhere in the article itself did the spokesperson express any regret for what was done to the Imams; they were just expressing sympathies for the Imams for their inconveniences. Nowhere does that imply that given an identical situation again, they wouldn't do the same thing.
I wouldn't have issued even that statement, but unlike me, US Airways doesn't have the luxury of telling Mohammedans where to jump off. Even if they actually do, they don't know it as yet.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at November 28, 2006 3:48 AM
Isabella
Since you've had such a dream, I declare you a prophet. And just as Mohammedans demand Jerusalem as theirs on the basis of Mohammed's dream, I demand that what you dream be turned into reality.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at November 28, 2006 3:51 AM
Infidel,
Thank you sweetie, but I am no prophet. Just a little Catholic girl who wants it all to work out well, but unfortunately, I have real concerns based on what my church teaches and what the back of the Bible says. But I'll tell you, this whole Muslim thing has made me pray my Rosary everyday, unlike all my good intentions to do it before now. Fear is an effective motivator!
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at November 28, 2006 3:57 AM
these inmans were causing disturbance aboard an aircraft and pilot was at his legal right in the removed despite whatcair might claim there was no Islamic phobia is a simple matter and passenger safety and affect the airline will not change it stanch is good and the Christian group was wandering around the aircraft holding a very loud prayer meeting I personally would be concerned as well so the airline as acted exactly in accordance with the FAA rules. And cair and their lawyers and scream racism all they want is frankly Islam is a religion not a race.
Posted by: islamakapigeaters
at November 28, 2006 4:07 AM
IsabellaTheCrusaders
Yes I do feel like a rabble rouser. One of those old Puritans on a witch hunt only this time the witches are Muslims --ahh heres my pitchfork where I left it!
yes Im still up (its 4:23 am in Toronto) I have this writing assignment to finish -- an all nighter. The radio is on --its talking about the Pope and is saying what Robert Spencer said in the other thread!--the REASON His Holiness the Pope is coming to Istanbul is not for controversy but to meet with His Holiness the Patriarch of Constantinople.
Isabella you're Catholic and Im Eastern Orthodox! Your Holy Father is meeting with our Holy Father -now if the Holy Father of us all could send some of that old testament style plagues from above on the muslims below --thats all we would need to make the day perfect.
Wheres a good old PILLAR OF FIRE like that one Elijah called down on the preists of baal and it consumed them all , when you need one!!
shalom!
at November 28, 2006 4:30 AM
correction IsabellaTheCrusader
PS your handle inspires this picture in my mind: a young Joan of Arc in a suit of silvery chain mail and a large red cross on your shield
something like this:
http://www.sjdarc.org/images/SJA_Icons/Saint%20Joan%20of%20Arc.jpg
me Im more like an old WWII Nazi killing sonofb#th like so:
http://www.alandavis-comicart.com/images/WSgtRock.jpg
at November 28, 2006 4:45 AM
oops better link:
http://www.heroesanddragons.com/ComicClub/images/SgtRockHell&HardPlaceHC.jpg
at November 28, 2006 4:49 AM
another of joan of arc
http://www.marypages.com/JoanofArc.htm
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at November 28, 2006 4:56 AM
I realize Ann Coulter is a conservative, and this site seeks to unite right and left against jihad, not get into partisan politics, but Coulter had a rather funny piece the other day at Frontpagemagazine.com on this US Airways controversy over the imams. I suspect many Jihad Watchers will like it.
Posted by: traeh
at November 28, 2006 5:00 AM
traeh thanks for that. A hilarious article by coulter.
from Ann Coulter's article
quote:
"You want to really hurt a U.S. air carrier's business? Have Muslims announce that it's their favorite airline."
hilarious
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at November 28, 2006 5:10 AM
traeh my links are long and ugly compared to yours ! you show a clickable link without showing the http address --Im no computer whiz--how do you do that? I want to post links like that too!
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at November 28, 2006 5:12 AM
THE ALLIES SHALL WIN:
If you follow the below pattern (the boldface text), then whatever you type where I have typed the word "article" will show up as a link when you preview or post, but the other stuff (the greater than and less than signs, and the text those signs enclose) won't show up when you preview or post. The greater than and less than signs and what they enclose will only show up for you as you type them in the typing box. (I made the normally invisible stuff visible in the bold example below by using a little trick, but nevermind that.)
<a href="http://www.marypages.com/JoanofArc.htm">article</a>
If you try it and it doesn't work, make sure you are not missing any details. For example remember to include the quotation marks on either end of the webpage address, as well as the two sets of "greater than" and "less than" signs.
This is part of HTML (stands for hypertext markup language, I think), and there are free tutorials on the internet you can look at, if interested. Don't hesitate to ask me if you need more help, and I'll try to answer, if I happen to see the post where you ask.
Posted by: traeh
at November 28, 2006 5:57 AM
THE ALLIES SHALL WIN:
By the way, just to be clear, the text doesn't have to be boldfaced to work -- I just did that to make it easier for you to see the pattern.
Posted by: traeh
at November 28, 2006 6:06 AM
Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas Democrat. This twit should be sent to the nearest cesspoolstan, and see what it is like to be profiled, better yet send her to saudi arabia, let her try to walk in with a cross on her. and those stupid people who voted for her, need a lesson from jihad watch.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at November 28, 2006 7:28 AM
l forgot to mention the link l got from US Airways about the dhimmicrat ep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, great link. l hope US Airways does not back down. US Airways need to be more bold and upon investigations of those immans, US Airways should sue the immans and any passengers on board that flight. WE should be on the offensive on CAIR! We should take the laws and go after CIAR and their appologists. Let CIAR go on the defensive for once. THe best Defense is OFFENSE.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at November 28, 2006 7:32 AM
another add on. lol... those passengers on board the USAirways should also sue the immans.. l am too much in a rush, inbetween my work. worse in the mornings.. have a geat day.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at November 28, 2006 7:38 AM
Zena , that's a great idea! The passengers could sue the imams for not only scaring the crap out of them, making them late, but also for stomping on their rights to have a nice safe flight.
The muslims should realize that, this is a privately owned airline WITH the right to REFUSE. Muslims should also realize, when you're in someone's home, RESPECT IT.
Of course, you cannot legislate respect.
If the Demorat from Texas wants to pass legislation against passenger profiling, the airlines might as well shut down. I know if it passed, I'D be arrested for trying to get off the plane if muslims boarded.
Posted by: freewoman
at November 28, 2006 7:47 AM
As the Islamists get cannier with their false flag operations such as this stunt obviously was, airline security will have to get much cannier too in being able to separate the wheat from the chaff. The Israelis have found that you have to look at behaviour rather than religious identity to be able to identify security threats. This will take much more subtle profiling. And if the airlines and security authorities fail to smarten up, the flying public will have to get serious about other means of distance travel, most of which consume significantly less petroleum based fuels, which would be a good thing too.
Posted by: waterdragon52
at November 28, 2006 7:59 AM
How many of the witnesses against the Immams were women? Of course their testimony only counts for 1/2 or even 1/4.
"News Alert; Some scumbag held up a convenience store in Orlando. Surveillance video at eleven"
Five years after 9/11 and we are getting on Airliners with who knows what and nobody is video-taping their behavior?
We should demand Congressional hearings on THIS!
If Muslims get to fly without scrutiny will they have ID saying they are Muslem or will the Airlines just take their word for it?
I see a way to get past all that security slow down at the airports. Is it a sin to lie that you are a moonbat?
Since they have this identity crisis:
When they want to teach it in Schools, the ninth circuit federal court says it is culture.
When they want us to be forced to shut up our criticism it is religon with the freedoms our constitution allows.
When they don't want to be noticed for aberrant behavior or Profiled it is a race issue.
How about some clarification here???
at November 28, 2006 8:10 AM
The Rep for U.S. Airways should have stepped up to the podium before the maggot media, looked out over them, and said," We're just sorry that the flight crew didn't have tasers to shut these trouble makers up. For now on tasers will be issued to all crew. Thank you all you vermin media." And with that the Rep steps down and leaves.
Posted by: juicealot
at November 28, 2006 8:22 AM
Thanks Isabella...:
"Witnesses said three of the imams were praying loudly in the concourse and repeatedly shouted "Allah" when passengers were called for boarding US Airways Flight 300 to Phoenix.
"I was suspicious by the way they were praying very loud," the gate agent told the Minneapolis Police Department.
Passengers and flight attendants told law-enforcement officials the imams switched from their assigned seats to a pattern associated with the September 11 terrorist attacks and also found in probes of U.S. security since the attacks -- two in the front row first-class, two in the middle of the plane on the exit aisle and two in the rear of the cabin.
"That would alarm me," said a federal air marshal who asked to remain anonymous. "They now control all of the entry and exit routes to the plane."
A pilot from another airline said: "That behavior has been identified as a terrorist probe in the airline industry." (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061128-122902-7522r.htm )
Obviously they were trying to make a scene and trying to alarm people – testing the limits of such behavior and PC cowardliness. If anything there should be a law against such provocative behavior with no apologies. If airlines give in an inch they’ll take a mile and no airline will be safe. The imams are not here to be our friends.
at November 28, 2006 8:23 AM
Good.
Even those who are politically idiotic and miscomrpehending when they are off planes can identify with, can sympathize with, can proleptically or retrospectively worry with, the innocent passengers and the innocent crew, and wish that if decisions are to be made by that crew properly, they must be made in an atmosphere that is entirely unaffected by any worries over future second-guessing of their decision.
The campaign of CAIR will run up against this fact: the desire, by the entire public of air passengers, for safety to be assured, and no nonsense that may be tolerated elsewhere, by some bien-pensants who find the very word "discrimination" music to their ears, will get very far when it comes to plane safety, and if CAIR and these imams persist, they will infuriate more and more people, and prepare them mentally for beginning to comprehend the nature, the tents, the attitudes, the atmospherics, of Islam.
Posted by: Hugh
at November 28, 2006 8:30 AM
Real men, please be seated in the aisles and follow the lead of the heroes of United Flight 93.
Posted by: scarab
at November 28, 2006 8:38 AM
The link to the WashingtonTimes article provided by Isabellathecrusader above provides enough detail to make me wonder why isn't there a recording of the event? Aren't there security cameras in the airport boarding areas? Are folks intimidated from using their camera phones? Surely someone must have had one.
This type of terror probing needs to be documented by an army of citizens that refuse to be cowed by PC politic. Providing imagery to back up the reports will provide some additional evidence necessary to put these folks off the plane and on 'no fly' lists permanently.
BTW, with the passenger Shahin . . .the one with admitted ties to Osama bin Laden and denial of the 9/11 al Qaeda plot - or his connection to a Hamas-linked terror charity front - why is this clown not already on a NO FLY LIST?
Posted by: justamomof4
at November 28, 2006 8:53 AM
These immams hijacked the US Airways aircraft just as effectively as if they pulled box cutters and held them to the throats of the passengers and crew.
These are nothing less that muslim air pirates who believe that they can now continue to harass everyone else, and terrorize all non-muslims in courts.
My recommendation is military justice for these hijackers and their attorneys who have betrayed their oaths of loyality to uphold the Constitution of The United States.
Why are the terrorist immams not facing the death penalty for hijacking before a firing squad?
Posted by: witness
at November 28, 2006 8:54 AM
Another case of PC uber alles. When will this foolishness ever end?
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 28, 2006 8:54 AM
"We're sorry the imams had a difficult time, but we do think the crews have to make these calls and we think they made the right one," she said.
Well done.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses
at November 28, 2006 9:55 AM
Damn right the crew made the right call! Those bearded w@nkers were testing the system. If nothing is done, they have successfully frightened a planeload of kaffirs. If they are prevented from flying, they become martyrs. A true win-win for them.
Posted by: MP
at November 28, 2006 12:15 PM
quote
One of the passengers, Omar Shahin, told Newsweek the group did everything it could to avoid suspicion by wearing Western clothes, speaking English and booking seats so they were not together. He said they conducted prayers quietly and separately to avoid attention.
So they did not appear to be moslems.So how can they complain that they where profiled as muslims
Posted by: shiva
at November 28, 2006 12:24 PM
So, these Imams were just finished at a conference in Minneapolis. What is it about Minneapolis these days. The Muslim cab drivers there are now refusing to carry anyone they think might have duty free liquor in their bags and you're out of luck if you're blind and have a guide dog because an Imam somewhere judged dogs to be unclean.
And I would like very much to read a transcript of the goings on at the conference. Were there, for example, smaller group seminars on how to enrage the dhimmi? When you read the Washington Times piece and see how behavior after behaviour rang alarm bells, and fit neatly into terrorist security profiles, it would seem as if this was a deliberately organized attempt to get thrown off the flight to gain the press attention and add to the grievance list. It's more apparent everyday that these aggressive believers of Islam are very quick to learn how to use our freedoms and court protections against us. Seems puzzling and ironic to me that they can adapt to our society very well in order to advance their campaign but can't bring themselves to live by the same tolerant rules that we do.
Posted by: options
at November 28, 2006 2:37 PM
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