Budget shortfalls my butt! They could have DEPORTED THEM IMMEDIATELY.

Are there muslims in charge of this or is it just idiots?

When are we going to get responsible people in charge of our security ? Do we need to take care of things ourselves?

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 10:59 AM

Heads need to roll for that,literally. If we need a Muslim to do THAT job I'm all for it. This is treason, pure and simple.

I am ashamed to be an American-no other country has an immigration policy as bad as the one the US has. Even France probably screens out known troublemakers better.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 29, 2006 10:59 AM

FREEWOMAN is right --IMMEDIATELY dammit!

why on God's green earth would you release these creatures??? I would have booted them all back to the nearest muslim country.

Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at November 29, 2006 11:01 AM

Not to worry.

As long as "we are fighting them over there so we won't have to fight them over here" we have no problem. The British are fighting them "over there" so there hasn't been a single attack planned or executed in Great Britain, and Eliza Manninigham-Butler merely has a vivid imagination, as do those Underground riders.

And the Spanish troops were "fighting them over there" so there was no problem at the Atocha station, or anywhere else, and certainly not in the Spanish possessions of Ceuta and Melilla.

There is no problem, so open the floodgates, just so long as we keep fighting, as Bush tells us in his Captain Queeg mode, "over there" until we bring, to Iraq, a "stable democracy."

Posted by: Hugh at November 29, 2006 11:08 AM

Do these animals have to go to Washington and cut the heads off of these idiot politicians before someone finally does something? Here we all wait for a US Hiroshima to happen rather than taking active measures to prevent it. No-amend that-the government is AIDING that effort to create a Hiroshima in the US by letting scum like this in. I swear if we have to fight these bastards in the streets I'm going after the politicians who allowed this to happen first-they are worse than even the jihadist scum. Traitorous scum should be hung from every lampost in every town for destroying this country.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 29, 2006 11:13 AM

americaningermany-

Bush has had lots of help, from both parties. He's just one of many idiot politicians who increasingly look like they'll go down in history as the American versions of Chamberlain and Daladier. Or is it Petain and Laval?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 29, 2006 11:17 AM

Does anybody have any idea which group of congess committes are responsible for this mess?

Maybe the american people should start screaming for congessional hearings....it seems to work for the islamists trying to take over the country.

Several heads should roll over this, and I for one am sick and tired of hearing about this kind of garbage after it's too late to do anything about it.

Posted by: gaelen at November 29, 2006 11:21 AM

Ok, now that I'm over the SHOCK of this STUPIDITY...

So 91,516 illegals from terror sponsored countries were caught in the U.S. 45,000 were released in our unsuspecting population. What did they do with the other 46,516 illegal terrorists? Were those shipped back?

We have so many military flights back and forth to the M.E., so why couldn't these bi-peds be put on some of those?

Do we really have ignorant people in charge of this?

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 11:22 AM

"What did they do with the other 46,516 illegal terrorists? Were those shipped back"?
Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 11:22 AM

Probably not. They probably were allowed to become CITIZENS!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 29, 2006 11:25 AM

Budget shortfalls were the explanations for why some 45,008 potential terrorists were released by authorities over a period of nearly five years after Sept. 11, 2001. The budget crunches prompted immigration officials to place strict limits on detention bed space, recruitment, training, travel and expansion of enforcement programs, the report explained.

Maybe a small part of that $1 trillion dollars we spent on Iraq coulda covered that.

To those marveling at the apparent stupidity of the federal government on this, keep in mind that virtually all members in our Permanent Governement are Leftists, and that roughly 100% of illegal aliens will vote, or already do vote, for Democrats, or the odd RINO.

So, to many real Americans, this report is happy news.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at November 29, 2006 11:28 AM

there shouldnt be any immigration for muslim countries why dont u guys stop it and expel all exisiting muslim immigrants

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 11:29 AM

stop paying taxes to israel will help u in doing that

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 11:30 AM

Eastwest, if it were up to those of us with common sense, it would come to a DEAD stop and those here would be gone.

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 11:32 AM

If (or rather when) the WMD goes off in a major American city (or most likely cities) I am going to go back and read this:
"The budget crunches prompted immigration officials to place strict limits on detention bed space, recruitment, training, travel and expansion of enforcement programs, the report explained..."

Posted by: poetcomic1 at November 29, 2006 11:32 AM

eastwest makes more sense in one sentence than any idiot politician I've seen in this country does in a dozen speeches.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at November 29, 2006 11:32 AM

Whatever americangermany!!! why dont u just admit that white trash are dumb enough to import engineers and doctors from foreign countries, ask ur goverment to use ur taxes correctly

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 11:34 AM

all muslims are not happy in ur country anyway they are not leaving coz they see the luxuries of capitalism and dollars

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 11:36 AM

This is brilliant! Let the bad guys in, they blow up a city...instant construction jobs to entice more illegals! BRILLIANT!!

Posted by: Hillbilly at November 29, 2006 11:38 AM

i left ur country since one white trash told me why are u here we dont welcome u,she was right why am i there to clean u guys sh..... I am free now, less dollars but wow what a freedom. u should make an organisation who protest for all muslim immigration also we dont need u in our land either go away from iraq, saudi arab and any muslim country where white trash is present they should leave

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 11:39 AM

Check the welfare rolls and find out if all the muslim immigrants have degrees in engineering and medicene. If we only allowed immigrants in with REAL careers, instead of say imams, and illiterate poor, we would be better off.

Eastwest, don't forget some are here because America isn't a cesspool, you can drive on highways instead of dirt roads, you don't have to go through checkpoints and worry if you need to bribe someone or get shot...I could go on.

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 11:40 AM

free woman whatever dirt roads but mineeeeeeeeeeee, checkpoints no matter my countryyyyyyy, all problems here but I live with a pride.....hahaha

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 11:42 AM

Eastwest, I'm glad you're proud of your cesspool. We all need to be happy and comfy in our own home.

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 11:45 AM

Another "good" reason these slimes are not shipped back to their country of origin, they might be persecuted at home. My question .. who the HELL cares?

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at November 29, 2006 11:50 AM

the whole world should understand muslims jewish and christians cant live together we r told about this 1400 years ago..its our weakness we r not admitting that.. all these dialogues offer by ur pop willnt help..

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 11:50 AM

Could it be that this is a provocation from the govt to wake up the rest of the population?

It's hard to see a reason behind this action. The above comes closest I guess.

Posted by: Arnie at November 29, 2006 11:51 AM

Budget shortfalls were the explanations for why some 45,008 potential terrorists were released by authorities over a period of nearly five years after Sept. 11, 2001. The budget crunches prompted immigration officials to place strict limits on detention bed space, recruitment, training, travel and expansion of enforcement programs, the report explained.

I guess we have forgotten that a bullet is very cheap! Just think of the savings! LOL

For that matter, I'm sure there are many Americans who would voluteer to drive them to the border.

Is it too much to ask for a list of their names or pictures? Sort of "America's 45,000 Most Unwelcome"

Posted by: auntbea at November 29, 2006 11:52 AM

It should be clear that the government doesn't care about nation security, but spending the taxpayers money in Iraq.
This is just a modern form of corruption.

Posted by: Swissy at November 29, 2006 11:58 AM

Study: 1 million sex crimes by illegals
Researcher estimates more than 100 offenders crossing border daily

How high is the muslim percentage? Are their any numbers?
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50441

Posted by: Arnie at November 29, 2006 12:05 PM

Arnie, if you read the article, it states that most perpetrator are from Mexico. Muslims are not on the list for this article. But they are a real source of rape in Sweden. Recently we had a rape case of a 13 year old girl in Switzerland and the guys came mostly from Balken. That sounds like Muslims to me.

Posted by: Swissy at November 29, 2006 12:12 PM

swissy so u r saying no american do rape???..lol i know as a matter of fact in every minute one woman IS raped by an american citizen

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:19 PM

also ur white trash soldiers raped a 12 years iraqi and martyred her what a shame on u guys

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:20 PM

also ur white trash soldiers raped a 12 years iraqi and martyred her what a shame on u guys

no shame at all over that,was done by individualls,there are people like that everywhere.we didnt have nothin to do with it.if they are proved guilty,they will pay,not us.

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 12:26 PM

patriot8 i was expecting this answer from swissy

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:28 PM

The difference is we arrest rapists while they give them awards. Can you imagine a crackdown on rape in their countries? Who would not be arrested? So, if they can’t beat um, join um they say. But if you were searching for beastiality vids on the net 24/7 what do you think you would turn into?

Posted by: tgusa at November 29, 2006 12:28 PM

Haven't you folks figured it out yet? Our Government (those in power) are working to bring us into a one world order - one currency, one government, one law.

In Europe, this was done via the EU, which was initially presented to the people as a way to economic prosperity and also as a way to prevent war. You can no longer be proud to be British - that's being a biggot. You must now think of yourself as EUROPEAN.

World Net Daily did a piece on how Bush does not want the US to have borders. He wants to unite Canada and Mexico into some kind of North American trade block. This is the real reason for turning a blind eye to the immigration problem. This is why our government departments have signs in Spanish. To cater to those who can't speak English - because they are ILLEGAL.

The ball is rolling and none of us will be able to stop it. Powerful forces (the media, the corporations, the political leaders who lust after power and wealth and who are controlled by corporate America) are all working against the American worker. His job, his health, his welfare, his liberty do not matter to them. The American worker only matters when they need the votes.

What we need is a REVOLUTION of the PEOPLE. We need to take back our nation before those with the money and power destroy it for all of us.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 12:29 PM

u know i bet most of u guys never out of ur town even..just go out there is a whole world out there.. u guys are like a frog in a well who never have seen an ocean

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:30 PM

Frankly, I continue to be amazed at the way the US continues to try every possible means to give itself up. You only need 20 people to commit 9/11. Now you have more than 4,000 potential ones. With governments like this, who needs enemies.

Actually Eurabia is even worse. News reports say that a parallel Sharia court system is being setup in Britain.

Posted by: yaqub at November 29, 2006 12:30 PM

What does our government need for the above changes to happen? Chaos.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 12:31 PM

also ur white trash soldiers raped a 12 years iraqi and martyred her what a shame on u guys

well you decided to lump us all in the same boat,so as an American i will answer as an American.99.9% of "us" guys had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 12:32 PM

AIG, I look down my street and see lovely homes with roofs, impeccable lawns, nice vehicles, clean paved street, no bodies lying around, no windows blown or shot out, no bulletholes in the walls, no males beating walking garbage bags, no baby girls screaming from being mutilated, no weapons being hauled from house to house, and no wailing from religious figures. I can DRIVE to the store BY MYSELF, don't have to walk by poor women in garbage bags begging for food because they aren't allowed to work, worry about being whopped on the leg for my ankles and painted toenails showing, do my errands without worrying about hundreds of males standing around worrying if I'm not covered and eastwest talks about us being trash.

He needs to visit the Wizard of OZ and ask for a brain.

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 12:34 PM

yeahright whatever patriot i didnt see any blog on that here duhhhhh.,, if that would be a muslim guy i would have seen that for sure... cut this crap i know u guys hypocracy cant foolaround with me

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:35 PM

What we need is a REVOLUTION of the PEOPLE. We need to take back our nation before those with the money and power destroy it for all of us.

Posted by: The Goobs

i'll stand up with ya!!

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 12:35 PM

Corporate America (which also owns the media) will not live under Sharia law. Islam will fail, but Islam is a useful 'idiot' (tool) to bring the world to the place where it will forfeit everything for peace and safety - which of course will only come by a one world government. When the powers that be are finished using Islam, they will squash it.

You heard it here first.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 12:36 PM

blog on what?

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 12:37 PM

Patriot - if ONLY there were enough people willing to take the time to DO something to kick out the useless fools in Washington, things could change. Of course, they would NEVER be able to get media coverage - because the media controls the government - via lobbying and air time.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 12:39 PM

freewoman.. u r in fools paradise no wonder..dont tell me u dont have to pay mortgage, monthly insurance, actually u guys die while having loans lols.. all ur life is in getting bills or paying bills.. to get money from car insurance u will not have any courtesy and will not afraid of puting ur and someone else life in danger.. u guys r thieves have metal or stolen good detectors every where...on the streets of ur city u can easy get a b job for 10 bucks...whatelse u wana hear??? let me know i know the inside out of ur filthy society..actually u can see a white trash show on WB11 NY jerry springer show will tell u the story lol..all that trailer trash

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:40 PM

You guys need to ignore the moron. He actually thinks we want to live in flea infested mud huts.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 12:42 PM

oh yeah gooby???? truth always hurt aint it???

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:43 PM

.on the streets of ur city u can easy get a b job for 10 bucks...

on your streets you can "thigh" a baby for free,wow your right,your city's are so much better.

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 12:44 PM

Yawn

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 12:44 PM

Somebody talk about something SIGNIFICANT.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 12:45 PM

Thanks very much eastwest. With every post you remind me why I must stay as active as I can.
You are a great morale-builder. Keep it up,
allahu-akbar to you and yours.

Posted by: MP at November 29, 2006 12:47 PM

Off topic from Spain:

Spanish school cancels Christmas

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at November 29, 2006 12:47 PM

You know what? Norseman used to post caustic and sarcastic comments about things like this... He was right all along.

We deserve everything we get. Let's keep bringing more mo-foes into our free countries. Maybe after some organized attacks we'll do the right thing and begin to contain and isolate the Islamic world back into the Middle East where it came from.

We need to be repeatedly attacked until we 'get it'. Jihadis: Start in San Francisco if you would, please.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at November 29, 2006 12:48 PM

Eastwest, you just made my point. WE work for a living. WE work for a better life for us and for our children.

When we see pictures of the middle east, it truly is cesspools. Your males mill around, don't work, wait for the next protest, just kinda hanging.

This is why we are so much better than islamics. We have direction in life. Islam doesn't let you. Unless of course it's just destruction.

GET A JOB! Fix up your homes to a decent standard. Treat your women better.

Oh, and prostitution is rampant in your countries, but the difference is I'm sure our hookers are paid and then they go on their way. In yours, they're killed after the act.

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 12:49 PM

well thanks for suggestion..u should also get out of ur well and visit ocean to see the difference..there is another world outside america..

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:51 PM

First, my condolences to my fine conservative friends, sorry about your loss. Now you know how I felt back in 92, but just as in 92, it may help you to remember that nothing lasts forever, and the winds of political charge blow hard and fast. The pendulum swings left, the pendulum swings right. Just try to enjoy the ride.

I told all of you then that I was not (too) upset when the war hero lost to the draftdodging coward in 2004, and that I would be back. Begorrah! Has is it really been THAT long?

Sorry I haven't had much time to redden any GOPer fanny of late, but I am going through a bitter custody battle with the "mother" of my beloved children.

Is the old gang still here? I still try to read the headlines everyday but mostly read only Hugh's articles in their entirety, and don't have much time for comments.

Gary, DC Watson, Son of Walker, Colt, Libby's Mom, Catherine? Are you still around? Or have you transfered to LGF? Well, I doubt that, they haven't taken new subscribers, it seems to me, in years. Any liberals left, still trying again and and again to convince the 'Wingers that Islam is the problem, not liberalism? Any con-reps that need help convincing their namby-pamby friends that Islam is intolerant and therefore not WORTHY of our tolerance, no more than we should tolerate the KKK or CofCC?

Email me, keithjoy, at fanorollins@yahoo.com.

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And I see as time goes on, more and more Religion of Peace zombies will have more and more time on their hands, thanks to the largesse of the Great Society (which they despise) to start new associations, make up new acronyms, and write more taqiyya (tequilla?) and kitman propaganda. For example,

"Patriot" vomits:

...also ur white trash soldiers raped a 12 years iraqi and martyred her what a shame on u guys...

I'm surprised that such an illiterate lout didn't pepper his rant with profanity, which the Lion Of England called "the desperate attempt of a feeble mind to express itself forcibly."

Yes, Patriot... everyone knows that Muslims NEVER rape, especially when they are at war. Except of course, when they do. Like they did 400,000 times in Bangladesh in 1971. Or like they do hundreds of times a day in Sudan, NOW.

You see, Patriot, the difference between a "white trash" soldier from a civilized nation raping an innocent civilian and a Muslim soldier from one of your (yes, "YOUR" as that is where you belong) theocratic, cave-man culture hellholes raping an innocent civilian... (whew)... is that OUR soldier will actually stand trial, and if found guilty (as they often are) he will actually be punished.

Compare just the smattering of cases we've heard of in the past five years out of America, the UK, and Israel...now please, I beg you, PLEASE find me 10 cases of a Muslim soldier from a Muslim nation actually standing trial, being found guilty, and serving his sentence. Can you think of any Muslim wars? Of course you can't, since Islam means "peace"... but maybe I can help you.

The Iran-Iraq war of the 80s killed over one-million people.

The Lebanon Civil war of the 80s killed over a quarter-million people.

The Somailia civil war has killed over a half-million people.

The Egypt-Yemen war of the 50s killed over a million people.

The Pakistani RAPE of Bangladesh killed over a million people (as mentioned above.)

So out of all these millions of deaths (and there are many more millions that I won't mention here) can you site TEN examples like I have requested?

Or are you just full of hot air?

BTW... didn't Mohamed's army rape and kill a few people as well? Oh wait, we can't talk about that, can we?

Posted by: kj at November 29, 2006 12:54 PM

As has been said many times by many people, nothing will change in the US until we have a major attack (s). The terrorists are not stupid and they know this that's why there has not been any attacks, they are just bidding thier time, getting all their people in place and waiting. They let the stupid Americans fight among themselves, let stupid judges undermine our protection based soley on thier libearl bent and hate for Bush.

Posted by: bondservant at November 29, 2006 12:54 PM

well thanks for suggestion..u should also get out of ur well and visit ocean to see the difference..there is another world outside america..

o,we know we have had to save the world twice allready,looks like were gunna have to do it a 3rd time.

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 12:54 PM

BTW... all these dangerous types let in on Dub's watch... thank God he invaded Iraq, eh? I told you guys that Dub was a walking train wreck, and you just went on and on about the liberals and the Defeat-o-crats, didn'tcha?

You'd best start thinking of ways NOW to blame the inevitable next terror attack on Hillary, or Bill, or somebody like that. Come on, THINK!

Posted by: kj at November 29, 2006 12:56 PM

Patriot" vomits:

...also ur white trash soldiers raped a 12 years iraqi and martyred her what a shame on u guys...

i didnt wright that kj,didnt ya read what was wrote?or is that too hard?i was answering eastwest

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 12:59 PM

My question to the America haters is this:

If WE suck so bad, why do people all over the world come HERE? And when they get here, if us terrible "infidels" just treat them sooooooo bad, how they become so successful? Oh, that's right. Must be the love of Allah shyeah right.

I mean, is ANYONE clamouring to get INTO Iran? Or Sudan? Or Afghanistan? Or Pakistan?

AMERICA IS GREAT. Not perfect, but a hell of a lot better than anything else. WE LED THE WAY in terms of freedom, the right to the pursuit of happiness, etc. No, I'm NOT saying it's perfect, nor was it perfect when it started. But we are working on it. WE outlawed slavery. WE outlawed child labor. WE made divorce legal. WE gave women freedom choice (birth contol and abortion.) WE give everyone recourse to the law.

If YOU don't like America, and you LOVE Islam, go to Iran.

Posted by: kj at November 29, 2006 1:01 PM

Re: our islamic blogger

When people cannot defend their position, they either attack the other person, or change the subject.

Folks blinded by Islam do not want to hear the truth about Islam. They are COMFORTABLE in their beliefs/traditions and would prefer to stay in them, even if they are proven to be a lie. Those who have the ability to think for themselves and to decide to change their beliefs are threatened by being ostracized by their community/family or worse yet, beheaded/murdered. Even when you put the truth right in front of them, their fear will keep them from admitting it.

People do not like to be challenged for what they believe because it puts into question their intelligence and their experiences of their religion.

You folks are wasting your time with this one. HE only thinks what he is told to think - and that will not change. The risk is too great for him.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 1:01 PM

Wonder just who Bush thinks his good ol' buddies at CAIR are working for?

Can anyone be THAT stupid??? Never mind, I know the answer to that.

Posted by: americaningermany

Damn, it's hard to add anything to this!
Except one word: TREASON

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 1:02 PM

If we want to put a stop to this insanity,we will have to put Tom Tancredo in the White House in 2008,it`s as simple as that.
Nobody else will even try to pretend they will solve the border chaos.
It has to be Tancredo,or we`re finished as a nation.

Posted by: adela at November 29, 2006 1:03 PM

Texas Sheriffs Say Terrorists Entering US from Mexico
By Kevin Mooney
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
August 21, 2006
(CNSNews.com) - The chief law enforcement officers of several Texas counties along the southern U.S. border warn that Arabic-speaking individuals are learning Spanish and integrating into Mexican culture before paying smugglers to sneak them into the United States. The Texas Sheriffs' Border Coalition believes those individuals are likely terrorists and that drug cartels and some members of the Mexican military are helping them get across the border.
[...]
Gonzalez told the House International Relations Subcommittee on International Terrorism and Nonproliferation in July that the terrorists are getting smarter. "To avoid apprehension, we feel many of these terrorists attempt to blend in with persons of Hispanic origin when entering the country." Gonzalez stated. "We feel that terrorists are already here and continue to enter our country on a daily basis."
[...]
Statistics made available through the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) show more than 40,000 illegal aliens from countries "Other Than Mexico," designated as OTMs, were apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol in the period ranging from October 2003 to June 2004, as they attempted to cross the southwestern border. An overview of border security challenges produced through the office of Texas Gov. Rick Perry indicates that almost 120,000 OTMs were apprehended while attempting to cross into the state from January through July 2005.

Local authorities are particularly concerned about illegal aliens arriving from Special Interest Countries (SICs) where a radical version of Islam is known to flourish. Perry's office cites Iraq, Iran, Indonesia and Bangladesh among those countries. A Tancredo spokesperson said the list also includes Afghanistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Somalia and Yemen.

Read it all

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/200608/SPE20060821a.html

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This immigration issue is the greatest threat to our civilization!!
My adrenalin is flowing too much now for me to write calmly.
I think I'll just fax a copy of this story and the one above to all
govenors in states with an international border, as well as all congressmen and senators who voted "no" . . . . .truly they are ones who are mentally ill.

Posted by: Malinois at November 29, 2006 1:04 PM

also ur white trash soldiers raped a 12 years iraqi and martyred her what a shame on u guys

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:20 PM

also ur white trash soldiers raped a 12 years iraqi and martyred her what a shame on u guys

no shame at all over that,was done by individualls,there are people like that everywhere.we didnt have nothin to do with it.if they are proved guilty,they will pay,not us.

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 12:26 PM

patriot8 i was expecting this answer from swissy

Posted by: eastwest at November 29, 2006 12:28 PM

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 1:12 PM

As for anyone who wants to divide us by politics, I would suggest that NONE of them in Washington is worth SPIT. If you actually are stupid enough to think that the democrats are any different than the republicans (all of them lust for money and power) then you are an idiot. All of them take perks from lobbyists. All of them are bought and sold by the media and corporate America.

The only way this country could ever change is to remove all of them and start over again. This of course will never happen.

Am I conservative? I have morals. Am I liberal? I want the American worker to be of paramount importance. I want jobs to stay in this country. I want to buy American made goods! I want a health care system to protect the American Worker. I want our taxes to go to AMERICA and making AMERICA better - NOT to Lebanon, etc. I want lobbying to be illegal. I want the media to be owned by more than 5 corporations. I want our borders closed. I want our military strengthted to protect our country! I want our leaders to have impecable records and good respectable lives. I do not want them to use their power to lie to the American workers or to have sex with their staff. Our leadership is so corrupt that anything short of a cleanout will never repair the damage they have done.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 1:12 PM

right on Goobs.

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 1:17 PM

Robert and Hugh 2008.The Take back America party.

Posted by: Patriot8 at November 29, 2006 1:18 PM

WE THE PEOPLE party.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 1:20 PM

i left ur country since one white trash told me why are u here we dont welcome u,she was right why am i there to clean u guys sh..... I am free now, less dollars but wow what a freedom. u should make an organisation who protest for all muslim immigration also we dont need u in our land either go away from iraq, saudi arab and any muslim country where white trash is present they should leave

Posted by: eastwes

I am glad for you that you won't have to be around us white trash from now on. And we are glad simply for our own peace of mind. One less "sudden jihad syndrome" individual on our well-paved street. One less idiot on welfare. One less sullen unfriendly passenger on the overcrowded subways.

One LESS moslem is ALWAYS GOOD NEWS!

I hope the door didn't hit you on the way out :-)

Seems like you still miss us though since you keep posting here an awful lot. Darling, thou protesteth too much!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 1:20 PM

What The Goobs is saying!

Posted by: Malinois at November 29, 2006 1:21 PM

Great post Goobs!! I agree whole heartily.

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 1:23 PM

adela has it right! Only Tancredo will try to do something about the illegals. He understands the threat.

D

Posted by: Den_Man at November 29, 2006 1:24 PM

..u should also get out of ur well and visit ocean to see the difference..there is another world outside america..

Posted by: eastwest

I've just been abroad last month... went to a third world nation and drank beer in a plywood shed near the beach and talked to the ladies who ran the shop for an afternoon.

I've been to Mexico three times and not always in the tourist locations... Merida, Valladoid among other places.

I've been to Canada...

I've been to England, Wales, Ireland, France, Switzerland and Italy.

I know a world exists outside of the United States.

What's your point?

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at November 29, 2006 1:24 PM

Wonder if Bush will finally think about that too...after he's been castrated of course.

Posted by: americaningermany

They already have been. CAIR and the ACLU have sent a lot of neutered 'leaders' and 'leaderettes' into office and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Only too bad that these things always affect the wrong people. The people who work and who trust our government to keep them safe from harm.

That is my biggest concern about all of this.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 1:25 PM

Note how eastwest spelled organisation? In the US it is spelled organization.

I doubt the guy has ever BEEN to the US. Typical hater of America living in the UK, watching too much BBC and Al JaZEERA.

Best to ignore this type.

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 1:28 PM

We have so many military flights back and forth to the M.E., so why couldn't these bi-peds be put on some of those?

Do we really have ignorant people in charge of this?

Posted by: freewoman

YES WE DO!!! Not just here in the United States. It's EVEN WORSE in Germany and the other Eurolands. Which is why I ran over here. While Reagan was in office. I'm not really that conservative but I believe Govvernment is responsable for defense.. things like internal and external security and it should basically step back where everything else is concerned.

So it was a logical conclusion to come here and I knew how to speak English, having lived here as a kid.

But yes, the politicians in the United States are now in close competition the idiots and traitors awards. Maybe someone with some spare time ought to start such an awards ceremony. :-)

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 1:32 PM

Speaking of "general" population...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=roy+beck&hl=en

Posted by: butterfly at November 29, 2006 1:39 PM

kj - I agree with you about Dubya. He has been a dismal failure. Who in either party will be an improvement? Slick Willy was equally useless in his response to defacto open-border immigration, as was Bush Sr., Ronnie, Carter, Ford and Nixon. American elites decided during WWII that establishing The Empire of the United States was a better idea than maintaining the Republic. We have been slowly making the change for the past sixty years. Politicains of both parties and most western "intellectuals" are globalists not nationalists. It is almost comic to see them attempting to deal with a product of the reptilian brain like Islam.

Posted by: MP at November 29, 2006 1:41 PM

So why doesn't our government get it? The republicans think they didn't get voted in because of the war in Iraq, the high oil prices, the economy. The democrats think they got voted in to expose scandals.

Seems neither party is hearing the AMERICAN PEOPLE! The Republicans didn't get voted in because they ignored their base. They got cocky and were only interested in corporate America. They didn't seal the borders. They didn't get rid of the illegals. They sucked up to Corporate America by allowing illegals in for cheap labor. They didn't provide affordable health care. They didn't protect the American worker. They catered to Corporate America and we saw a more rapid loss of American jobs to Taiwan, Vietnam, China, etc. Big business won, we lost.

The Democrats only got voted in because Americans wanted to kick the Republicans in the butt NOT because they wanted the lefty-libs to go nuts and further ruin our country whilst also catering to Corporate America. The Dems will do nothing to close the borders. They want the welfare recipients so that they can maintain a voting pool.

Illegals drive down the wages for everyone and cost this country HUGE amounts of money. The only people who benefit are corporate america. This is why most middle class are not feeling that the economy is doing well. Our dollar is almost worthless, so Americans buy cheap China goods from The Great Wall of China Mart and cut the throats of Americans who lose their jobs. But of course they do not CARE about the Americans losing them jobs. It's an "I'm all right jack" mentality that is killing our country. Americans are overworked, underpaid. In Europe, when you are hired, you immediately get 5 weeks of vacation pay your first year! Over here, even though people are supposed to get adequate rest breaks, they can't take them for lack of coverage! You're lucky if you get 1 week paid vacation after a years work. More jobs are hired under 40 hours to avoid the benefits but the employees are then worked 50 hours! It is starting to stink badly here and nothing is being done to protect the American worker!

I'd pay double for goods if it meant that I could keep joe blogs employed down the road! I'd rather give my money to helping HIM than to building China so they can continue to strengthen their military!

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 1:41 PM

there shouldnt be any immigration for muslim countries why dont u guys stop it and expel all exisiting muslim immigrants

Posted by: eastwest

We're WORKING on it.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 1:41 PM

stop paying taxes to israel will help u in doing that

Posted by: eastwest

We should actually give them a boost. Dead terrorists don't travel very well :-)

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 1:45 PM

stop paying taxes to israel will help u in doing that

Posted by: eastwest

We should actually give them a boost. Dead terrorists don't travel very well :-)

ERETZ ISRAEL!! Sorry you guys have to live surrounded by these scum. If it were up to me you'd be an expanding Empire of Israel.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 1:46 PM

@islamforloosers..

i feel ya on this one..."Traitorous scum should be hung from every lampost in every town for destroying this country."

this problem is that the politicians would have already boarded planes for those beautiful tropical islands leaving the rest of us in a street war...and then China will move in an dtake over the country...that will be the end of the republic...those Chinese will take care of the terrorists too...

Posted by: jihadlove at November 29, 2006 1:50 PM

We should keep helping Israel as long as Russia, China, France and all the other wicked world leaders continue to financially support Muslim terrorists [i.e. Iran, Syria, etc.].

Posted by: The Goobs at November 29, 2006 1:50 PM

u guys are like a frog in a well who never have seen an ocean

I think you have us confused with the mahdi

Posted by: dms at November 29, 2006 1:57 PM

he whole world should understand muslims jewish and christians cant live together we r told about this 1400 years ago..its our weakness we r not admitting that.. all these dialogues offer by ur pop willnt help..

Posted by: eastwest

Words of Wisdom. I'd never have imagined hearing this much wisdom from a moslem. Would you please email our president and others in High Office? You may even want to email the Pope since you insist on underestimating him.

YOU SEE WHEN WE conatact our 'leaders' with these facts they simply refuse to believe us or even to consider the validity of what we say.

Maybe they need to hear if FROM THE HORSE's MOUTH!
Maybe u can get thru to them!

by the way.. WE CAN live together with Christians and Jews and Buddhists and Pagans and all KINDS!! we can live with ANYONE BUT moslems!!!! Just ask the Hindus. They may not LOVE the Christians but they are reasonable folk and they can live in Peace with ANYONE! Please include this IMPORTANT bit of information when you contact the 'leaders' I have suggested to you.

Thank you so much for your invaluable help in this matter.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 1:58 PM

In Europe, this was done via the EU, which was initially presented to the people as a way to economic prosperity and also as a way to prevent war. You can no longer be proud to be British - that's being a biggot. You must now think of yourself as EUROPEAN.

GOOBS.. You should by all means be proud to be BRITISH. At least I think you should. But you MUST be EUROPEAN when it comes to our COMMON DEFENSE!!!

The enemy is on YOUR Islands too!

Remember the joint European forces who threw the turks out of Austria!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 2:03 PM

u know i bet most of u guys never out of ur town even..just go out there is a whole world out there.. u guys are like a frog in a well who never have seen an ocean

Posted by: eastwest

It would be a much nicer well if you moslems stopped POSIONING the well with your presence.

Go stay in your ocean of a cesspool.
Actually if we live in a well - the moslems live in a septic tank.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 2:06 PM

u guys r thieves have metal or stolen good detectors every where...on the streets of ur city u can easy get a b job for 10 bucks...whatelse u wana hear??? let me know i know the inside out of ur filthy society..actually u can see a white trash show on WB11 NY jerry springer show will tell u the story lol..all that trailer trash

Posted by: eastwest

Two things:

1. We have metal detectors because of TERRORIST SCUM like u!

2. u r a racist pure and simple. Noone here makes reference to skin color and race but u. We know islam is a race-based religion that preaches arab supremacy. I can't wait for the day that the rest of the murderous NON-arab moslem scum start resenting this innate racism of PIGslam.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 2:11 PM

meh- what the heck is the difference? We've got terror cells ALL over the U.S- I did a report on this awhile ago with a map that was an old map showing just how many terror cells reside in the U.S. it is absolutely astonishing and frightening that we even allow them to exist in this country! We're digging our own graves by being so stinkin politically correct that we even allow them to reside here. NO other naiton would put up such crap except for the EU of course who are now experiencing the wrath of radical islam and are at a point where they now can't control the situation. We're headed right down the same path to hell as the EU for our refusal to cut hte head of the snake off! http://www.statcounter.com/

Posted by: CottShop at November 29, 2006 2:15 PM

BTW... all these dangerous types let in on Dub's watch... thank God he invaded Iraq, eh? I told you guys that Dub was a walking train wreck, and you just went on and on about the liberals and the Defeat-o-crats, didn'tcha?

You'd best start thinking of ways NOW to blame the inevitable next terror attack on Hillary, or Bill, or somebody like that. Come on, THINK!

Posted by: kj

EXCEEEUSE ME?!

*I* have been talking about BOTH the aristocats and the dhimmicrats. Coke and Pepsi.

All of them are Dhimmiticians!

I am NOT a bushbot. And neither are many others on here.

The dumbocrats won the two houses because the true Patriots stayed home this time and left the voting to the brainwashed masses.

Give us a REAL patriotic element to vote for and SEE the TSUNAMI wash away those dirtbags and their phony lobbyists.

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 2:21 PM

i left ur country since one white trash told me why are u here we dont welcome u,she was right why am i there to clean u guys sh..... I am free now, less dollars but wow what a freedom. u should make an organisation who protest for all muslim immigration also we dont need u in our land either go away from iraq, saudi arab and any muslim country where white trash is present they should leave
East-West put bluntly your an idiot and cannot read what history says since Muhammad dreamed of this fantasy of Allah originally was a pagan moon God and the cult of Islam. Muslims been attacking non-Muslim countries in the name of fantasy called Allah and giving their populationsthree choices convert to Islam live as a subdued people paying protection money and and living under humiliating conditions conditionsor dieing just to the Jewish populations of the cities Muhammad attacked, all adult males were killed all young males slaves were taken were castrated and their female relatives were taken as sex slaves, with the elderly also been put to death. It's in the Koran you can't claim is a lie without admitting Islam is a lie. For 1400 years Muslims raiding killing and enslaving non-Muslims at one time they overran Spain but the Moors ejected in 1492 and despite the fantasy that Muslims have about lands they've invaded and overrun must know always be Muslim land I doubt their original inhabitants would agree with that idea. Israel is a good example of this the Jews have had historical presence in the state of Israel and the lands it is on for twice the time that Muhammad's cult has been around. In the real reason that the Arab nations around that land cannot the state of Israel is because the Jews had the balls to other former Moslem overlords to kiss off, and could paying protection money to Muslims. That in Muslims eyes is their real crime, and the refugees fled from Israel in 1947 had no need to run but their Arab brothers told them if they did not the Jews would kill them. What their Arab brothers did not tell them was they would be kept as refugees for purely political reasons they could point to the world and say what a horrible Jews of done. While conveniently not mentioning that the Arab nations would not let these refugees become citizens of other nations. Sorry guys ran off topic but this troll got me mad. As for 45,000 illegals release by INS that sucks they should have been deported without delay every time this happens the Government passes new regulations that make it that much harder on legal immigrants like myself

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at November 29, 2006 2:22 PM

Off topic from Spain:

Spanish school cancels Christmas

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks

EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD!!!

START YOUR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS!!!

I am going to put on the BIGGEST DISPLAY EVER!!
I have a window that is VERY visible from the street.

Let me see what i can do. Millions of commuters will see
a HUGE tree this year!! I'll put it on my roof! Yes, i have exclusive access and I can get electricity up there.

I want us to LOOK A LOT LIKE CHRISTMAS!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 2:31 PM

I hope this isn't OT, but I didn't see anything on this Watch on this topic for the last three days. I just came upon this news, but I can't say I'm surprised.

Keith Ellison, D-Minn., the first Muslim elected to the United States Congress, has announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2006/11/28/america,_not_keith_ellison,_decides_what_book_a_congressman_takes_his_oath_on

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at November 29, 2006 2:32 PM

oh yeah gooby???? truth always hurt aint it???

Posted by: eastwest

Indeed it does, mufti.
Truth IS: WE invent airplanes. moslems DESTROY them.
Truth IS: WE build great buildings and we use innovative architecture which constantly evolves and gets increasingly sophisticated. moslems destroy them.
Truth IS: WE invent and build automobiles. moslems STEAL them. And make car bombs.
Truth IS: WE build the rails and the undergrounds. moslems bomb them.
Truth IS: WE landed a Man on the Moon over 30 years ago. moslems worship what WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN WALKING ALL OVER. AND THERE WAVES the STAR SPANGLED BANNER AT YOU.

TRUTH IS:
EACH and EVERY time you look at the MOON remember OUR footprints are there already. As you worship the crescent Moon SALUTE the FLAG for me, ok? :-)

shall I really go on?

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 2:37 PM

lol i just noticed I posted link to statcounter- Doh- please ignore- meant to leave http://sacredscoop.com instead

Posted by: CottShop at November 29, 2006 2:38 PM

Thank you, Ynkedoodl2, for reminding us of this mockery of American values, traditions, culture, and laws that is about to take place if this Ellison Izlamobot has his perverted way. I strongly suggest that all concerned JW watchers follow the above link and read Dennis Prager’s excellent editorial and then write the President, your Senator, and Congressman concerning this travesty that is set to take place unless we act NOW! And do not concern yourselves anylonger with trivial trolls such as B-eastwest.

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at November 29, 2006 2:53 PM

I went down to Yuma Az to look at "the fence", as a 58 year old couch potato I had no problem climbing into Mexico and climbing back. This "fence is nothing more than a ladder in disguise and a joke on the American people. We need a WALL, Emperor Hadrian had the right idea. Before the wall the Scotts raided south into England almost at will, after the wall all raiding stopped 100%. The wall I envision would start with a simple barb wire fence at the border, behind that for 100 yards deep all vegetation is totally removed, than a 16 foot San Diago security fence is put up, 15 foot of razor wire and barb wire is filled in for 100 feet deep (similar to the wall Gen. Graziani built on the Egyptian-Lybian border). This would be followed by a 20 foot reinforced cement wall (like the noise reduction walls on freeways). Where ther are mountains you simply pull back behind the mountain always keeping the 100 yards of clear-cut. On top of the wall a group of 3 cameras, night vision, heat seeking and regular vision. you move down the wall and set up a group of 3 more cameras so your 2 groups have interlocking fields of vision and you keep going like this all along the wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico. Sound detection devices are buried with interlocling hearing along the wall. Groups of 30 3camera and listining devices are linked to a command center ( you may need 1000 command centers or 2000 or more). When an intrusion attempt is detected the border guards move out to intercept, much like the Roman legions intercepted the Scotts when they came insight of the wall. Illegal drugs into the US will be down by 95% (drug dealers can always try to fly over the wall). Illegal immigrants and terrorists down by at least 98 to 99%. If congress eliminates ear marks and pork for a year the wall can be built. Anything less and just keep voting those morons out of office until they get the message.

Posted by: WLF at November 29, 2006 3:01 PM

The Democrats only got voted in because Americans wanted to kick the Republicans in the butt NOT because they wanted the lefty-libs to go nuts and further ruin our country whilst also catering to Corporate America. The Dems will do nothing to close the borders. They want the welfare recipients so that they can maintain a voting pool.

Goobs - my sentiments EXACTLY!

If we take this analysis further a frightening conclusion begins to suggest itself. Since BOTH the Coke Party [repubs] and the Party of Pepsi [dhims] have moved WAY to the LEFT they are willfully ignoring an entire set of voters - namely what used to be called the SILENT MAJORITY.

They have essentially maneouvered us out of the way. Since we are so turned off that we simply won't vote any longer.

So now they compete for the liberal vote, the "eemmeegrant" vote, the Black vote and so on..

we are well on the way to a ONE-PARTY system. Fueled by lobbying groups.

A good idea would be that a lobbyist may ONLY give money to ONE side - not both as they commonly do now. Better idea would be to throw the lobbyists OUT completely! string 'em UP high!

Getting back on it: We need to JOIN one of the two parties "en masse". So we can start INFLUENCING the Primaries. Take over the inner structure.

The better of the two would be the Repubes because they have less INTERNAL moslem infiltration. It's easy enough to cut off external SOWdi lobbyist funding. Much easier than to get rid of people like this Keith Ellison for example.

Bush had moslems over for a Ramada Inn celebration recently at the White House. it was a gut-wrenching sight! However, these moslems are not in the Republican Party afaik.

So it will be easier to get in and take over the wheels in the Republican Party. And put the brakes on some of their Suicidal Tendencies before it is too late!

Any comments?

We must try and get more active. We can't just stay on these internet forums while Rome keeps burning outside!

Does this idea make sense to anyone? We should join the Repubs and form an anti-jihadist caucus within that party. Network amongst ourselves and try to GROW.

Run and SUPPORT anti-jihadist PRO-AMERICA candidates!!
FREE the party from lobbyist influence!!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 3:03 PM

Bush tells us in his Captain Queeg mode,...

Wait! This isn't Bushs fault! He is totally irresponsibile for any of this!

I would start by deporting Bush; all the Republicans; ALL the Democrates; THEN the illegals; and cremate the terrorists.

Then, I would round up ordinary, everyday, inexperienced in government citizens; and put them in charge of the government!

Never mind, just day dreaming. Bush probably got rid of most of the Americans working in DoD positions and put the terrorists in jobs.

After all, like he always tells us in not so many words; "Americans are just too stupid, too damned expensive, and don't what these jobs anyway!"

Gad, I loath globalist traitors!

Posted by: witness at November 29, 2006 3:21 PM

AIG, I look down my street and see lovely homes with roofs, impeccable lawns, nice vehicles, clean paved street, no bodies lying around, no windows blown or shot out, no bulletholes in the walls, no males beating walking garbage bags, no baby girls screaming from being mutilated, no weapons being hauled from house to house, and no wailing from religious figures. I can DRIVE to the store BY MYSELF, don't have to walk by poor women in garbage bags begging for food because they aren't allowed to work, worry about being whopped on the leg for my ankles and painted toenails showing, do my errands without worrying about hundreds of males standing around worrying if I'm not covered and eastwest talks about us being trash.

He needs to visit the Wizard of OZ and ask for a brain.

Posted by: freewoman

HOW MUCH LONGER???!!! The women in England and in Germany and in Spain get harrassed and raped on OUR VERY OWN STREETS. When the men intervene they get put on trial and denounced as racists!!

Broadcast THIS from every mosk-loudspeaker:
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!!!!!
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!!!!!
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!!!!!

allahu crap-bar!
salami and bacon!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 3:33 PM

Maybe we're fighting them OVER THERE so that our politicians have an EXCUSE to NOT fight them OVER HERE?!

Oh.. so sworry.. we done wpent all the money over dere.
Nothing left for security over here.. ooops... so sworry!!

That's ALL, folks!

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 3:36 PM

You preach AIG, and I'll amen you!

Posted by: freewoman at November 29, 2006 3:59 PM

And what will many of these illegal do for a living even if they are not terrorists? From the same source:

“This news hits following WND's report yesterday that 12 Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens.
...
While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That's 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001.
…
A report by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Study found 20 percent of fatal accidents involve at least one driver who lacks a valid license. In California, another study showed that those who have never held a valid license are about five times more likely to be involved in a fatal road accident than licensed drivers.
…
King also reports eight American children are victims of sexual abuse by illegal aliens every day – a total of 2,920 annually.
Based on a one-year in-depth study, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute of Atlanta estimates there are about 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States who have had an average of four victims each. She analyzed 1,500 cases from January 1999 through April 2006 that included serial rapes, serial murders, sexual homicides and child molestation committed by illegal immigrants. “

Bush and most politicians know that their chances of being impacted by these illegals is next to zero. They'll all just continue to make the ususal noises about how concerned they are, knowing they have screwed the public by negligence - and they know they'll get by with murder again.

Posted by: FM at November 29, 2006 4:03 PM

Hello all, I have been reading this site for a couple of months now, but this is my first post. What I am now ready is just what I have been thinking all this time. Goobs and germaninamerica, you are hitting the right ideas. Chatting and bickering on the internet isn't going to change anything, we have to start getting active. But how? As you have said the media is not going to help much, unless we can establish our own broadcast. Starting a third political party may get some of these ideas more into the mainstream. Taking over one of the existing parties will be tough. Maybe grassroots? I don't know. I just feel so damn helpless watching all this happening to my country. I voted for Bush, twice, but I am ashamed to admit it. He is an absolute idiot. But who ran against him...liberal democrats that are not helping our country either. We need to do something. What?

Posted by: fedupinamerica at November 29, 2006 4:07 PM

Above post should have said "What I am now reqding" Sorry for the illiterate keyboard.

Posted by: fedupinamerica at November 29, 2006 4:16 PM

fedupinamerica: We need to do something. What?

You are asking the wrong people.

Only K-Joy has those answers and he's not telling.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at November 29, 2006 4:28 PM

Bush is a total poser. He pretends to be the national security President while the borders are completely porous, and dangerous aliens are allowed to roam free in our country. Stomping around the Middle East does not directly protect the United States, particularly when the doors are wide open.

Everyone should read the McCaul report about the threats from allowing the southern border to remain open.

A Line in the Sand (download PDF):
http://tancredo.house.gov/irc/welcome.htm

Posted by: Dana at November 29, 2006 5:30 PM

And all of this in a kkkonservative congress, kkkonservative senate and kkkonservative administration..LOL, what will the Dhimmicrats do that the Repugnicans haven't already done.

Tis treason I tell you, tis treason and brought to you by the Evangelicals..nothing more important than anti abortion and antigay amendments, nothing I tell you just ask those clowns sans make up, those farces you know as Limpballs, Carlson,Oreilly, Coulter, Robertson, Dobson, Perkins, Graham, Fartwell and their ilk.

Yep got to fight dem liberuhls, gays, womyn, and to hell with national security and the Islamic threat.

Invade Iraq so we can pour billions down the rat hole of the military industrial complex (and Haliburton), but to hell with a realistic plan for isolating and negating the threat of Islam (can't do that 'cause the Saudis are friends and customers of the Bush and Cheney and Boeing and Raytheon and Exxon Mobil empires.

Posted by: Nariz at November 29, 2006 5:38 PM

45,000??? That's odd, because according to previous numbers that I have seen on the net, only 1,200 muslims have been detained since 9/11... What gives? Are they including illegal Mexicans in this number?

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at November 29, 2006 7:03 PM

If you are ready for the adventure of a lifetime, TRY THIS:

Enter Pakistan, Afghanistan or Iraq illegally. Never mind immigration
Quotas, visas, international law, or any of that nonsense.

Once there, demand that the local government provide free medical care for
you and your entire family.

Demand bilingual nurses and doctors. Demand free bilingual local
government forms, bulletins, etc. Procreate abundantly.

Deflect any criticism of this allegedly irresponsible reproductive
behaviour with, "It is a cultural thing; you wouldn't understand."

Keep your American identity strong.

Fly your national flag from your rooftop, or proudly display it in your
front window, or on your car bumper.

Speak only English at home and in public, and insist that your children do
likewise.

Demand classes on English culture in the Muslim school System.

Demand a local country driver license. This will afford other legal Rights
and will go far to legitimise your unauthorised, illegal, presence in
Pakistan, Afghanistan or Iraq.

Drive around with no liability insurance and ignore local traffic Laws.

Insist that local country law enforcement teaches English to all its
Officers.

Organize protest marches against your host country, inciting violence
against non-Americans, non-Christians, and the government that let you in.

Good luck! You'll soon be dead.

Because it will never happen in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Iraq or any other
country in the world except right here in the UK For we are run by soft,
politically correct politicians, that are too scared to "offend" anyone.

Posted by: Branislav at November 29, 2006 7:21 PM

To understand this madness one only needs to look at Bush's background. Bush was raised by illegal nannies from Mexico. He has never worked for an honest living. He has run failed businesses financed by wahabbi saudis. His mom even adopted prince Bandar (like there are no orphan children in America). Daddy Bush rolled in petro-dollars all his life. In politics, all dubya needed was money and votes. Money came from businesses, who wanted Bush to give more illegal aliens, who in turn, would give Bush more votes. All it took was a 'Guest worker program' and a 'family unification' line to which gullible Americans fell hook, line and sinker. So what if America is destroyed? Money and vote problem solved! Now, square that against no funding for border petrol, oondemning patriotic minutemen and letting wahabbis off to safery right after 9/11, and you'll see the cottupt and timid Bush, to cover which, all it took was a phoney 'WAR ON TERROR', helped by guess who? Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, the two countries responsible for 9/11.

Posted by: Alert at November 29, 2006 7:39 PM

You German guys.....
and all, check out this guy, Dr. Mohad Hoffman.
aka or correctly, Dr. Murad Hoffman

http://www.geocities.com/embracing_islam/islam_in_the_west.html

I found him on a streaming TV station in the country Bahrain speaking to a large group of Muslim leaders, as well as the link above.

He is a German, and a Muslim, which....no big deal,
But the rhetoric is extremely interesting.

He is a Harvard grad, and his message is that the
God less secular west....USA etc who caused ww2 WW1, Stalin ism, sexual depravity, and more....has now targeted Islam.

He preaches that the Muslims have no choice but to advance globally, or they will be eliminated.
He says that the west has totally abandoned God, and if allowed to live they will forbid Allah etc etc.

He also says that the only hope is to convert or destroy the west. If conversion is possible it can only happen by way of the Liberal or Progressive American.

Now, I'm not skilled in cyphering all this krap, but it seems to me that the guy is a provocateur, who is filling the Muslim world with as much fear of the west as the west has for them right now.

It wouldn't arouse my conspiracy ilk so much, but, he's no dummy, and he is no Arab.

Has any one heard of him before, and if so, how does he figure in all this mess.

Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge.

Posted by: tomthumb at November 30, 2006 6:14 AM

Tancredo for President!

Posted by: americaningermany at November 30, 2006 03:18 AM

If we are serious about Tancredo for President, we need to make a serious appeal to him. Who all are in? Anyone has experience in getting a petition drafted, signed and forwarded? I'll be the first to sign it..........

Posted by: Alert at November 30, 2006 7:00 PM