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November 29, 2006

Ahmadinejad sends letter to "the American people"

The Thug-in-Chief devotes most of his letter to trying to convince us that, hey, we're not all that different, a theme also present in his letter to Germany's Angela Merkel.

But note the ending, which contains the familiar call for conversion (required prior to waging war in Islamic law, per Sahih Muslim 019.4294), plus a slap at Christianity in "any partners they ascribe to him": "But those who repent, have faith and do good may receive Salvation. Your Lord, alone, creates and chooses as He will, and others have no part in His choice; Glorified is God and Exalted above any partners they ascribe to Him" (28:67-68).

"Ahmadinejad's letter to Americans," from CNN:

(CNN) -- In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
O, Almighty God, bestow upon humanity the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers.

That being the Mahdi, of course.

Noble Americans,
Were we not faced with the activities of the US administration in this part of the world and the negative ramifications of those activities on the daily lives of our peoples, coupled with the many wars and calamities caused by the US administration as well as the tragic consequences of US interference in other countries;
Were the American people not God-fearing, truth-loving, and justice-seeking, while the US administration actively conceals the truth and impedes any objective portrayal of current realities;
And if we did not share a common responsibility to promote and protect freedom and human dignity and integrity;
Then, there would have been little urgency to have a dialogue with you.
While Divine providence has placed Iran and the United States geographically far apart, we should be cognizant that human values and our common human spirit, which proclaim the dignity and exalted worth of all human beings, have brought our two great nations of Iran and the United States closer together.
Both our nations are God-fearing, truth-loving and justice-seeking, and both seek dignity, respect and perfection.
Both greatly value and readily embrace the promotion of human ideals such as compassion, empathy, respect for the rights of human beings, securing justice and equity, and defending the innocent and the weak against oppressors and bullies.
We are all inclined towards the good, and towards extending a helping hand to one another, particularly to those in need.
We all deplore injustice, the trampling of peoples' rights and the intimidation and humiliation of human beings.
We all detest darkness, deceit, lies and distortion, and seek and admire salvation, enlightenment, sincerity and honesty.
The pure human essence of the two great nations of Iran and the United States testify to the veracity of these statements.
Noble Americans,
Our nation has always extended its hand of friendship to all other nations of the world.
Hundreds of thousands of my Iranian compatriots are living amongst you in friendship and peace, and are contributing positively to your society. Our people have been in contact with you over the past many years and have maintained these contacts despite the unnecessary restrictions of US authorities.
As mentioned, we have common concerns, face similar challenges, and are pained by the sufferings and afflictions in the world.
We, like you, are aggrieved by the ever-worsening pain and misery of the Palestinian people. Persistent aggressions by the Zionists are making life more and more difficult for the rightful owners of the land of Palestine. In broad day-light, in front of cameras and before the eyes of the world, they are bombarding innocent defenseless civilians, bulldozing houses, firing machine guns at students in the streets and alleys, and subjecting their families to endless grief.
No day goes by without a new crime.
Palestinian mothers, just like Iranian and American mothers, love their children, and are painfully bereaved by the imprisonment, wounding and murder of their children. What mother wouldn't?
For 60 years, the Zionist regime has driven millions of the inhabitants of Palestine out of their homes. Many of these refugees have died in the Diaspora and in refugee camps. Their children have spent their youth in these camps and are aging while still in the hope of returning to homeland.
You know well that the US administration has persistently provided blind and blanket support to the Zionist regime, has emboldened it to continue its crimes, and has prevented the UN Security Council from condemning it.
Who can deny such broken promises and grave injustices towards humanity by the US administration?
Governments are there to serve their own people. No people wants to side with or support any oppressors. But regrettably, the US administration disregards even its own public opinion and remains in the forefront of supporting the trampling of the rights of the Palestinian people.
Let's take a look at Iraq. Since the commencement of the US military presence in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed, maimed or displaced. Terrorism in Iraq has grown exponentially. With the presence of the US military in Iraq, nothing has been done to rebuild the ruins, to restore the infrastructure or to alleviate poverty. The US Government used the pretext of the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but later it became clear that that was just a lie and a deception.
Although Saddam was overthrown and people are happy about his departure, the pain and suffering of the Iraqi people has persisted and has even been aggravated.
In Iraq, about one hundred and fifty thousand American soldiers, separated from their families and loved ones, are operating under the command of the current US administration. A substantial number of them have been killed or wounded and their presence in Iraq has tarnished the image of the American people and government.
Their mothers and relatives have, on numerous occasions, displayed their discontent with the presence of their sons and daughters in a land thousands of miles away from US shores. American soldiers often wonder why they have been sent to Iraq.
I consider it extremely unlikely that you, the American people, consent to the billions of dollars of annual expenditure from your treasury for this military misadventure.
Noble Americans,
You have heard that the US administration is kidnapping its presumed opponents from across the globe and arbitrarily holding them without trial or any international supervision in horrendous prisons that it has established in various parts of the world. God knows who these detainees actually are, and what terrible fate awaits them.
You have certainly heard the sad stories of the Guantanamo and Abu-Ghraib prisons. The US administration attempts to justify them through its proclaimed "war on terror." But every one knows that such behavior, in fact, offends global public opinion, exacerbates resentment and thereby spreads terrorism, and tarnishes the US image and its credibility among nations.
The US administration's illegal and immoral behavior is not even confined to outside its borders. You are witnessing daily that under the pretext of "the war on terror," civil liberties in the United States are being increasingly curtailed. Even the privacy of individuals is fast losing its meaning. Judicial due process and fundamental rights are trampled upon. Private phones are tapped, suspects are arbitrarily arrested, sometimes beaten in the streets, or even shot to death.
I have no doubt that the American people do not approve of this behavior and indeed deplore it.
The US administration does not accept accountability before any organization, institution or council. The US administration has undermined the credibility of international organizations, particularly the United Nations and its Security Council. But, I do not intend to address all the challenges and calamities in this message.
The legitimacy, power and influence of a government do not emanate from its arsenals of tanks, fighter aircrafts, missiles or nuclear weapons. Legitimacy and influence reside in sound logic, quest for justice and compassion and empathy for all humanity. The global position of the United States is in all probability weakened because the administration has continued to resort to force, to conceal the truth, and to mislead the American people about its policies and practices.
Undoubtedly, the American people are not satisfied with this behavior and they showed their discontent in the recent elections. I hope that in the wake of the mid-term elections, the administration of President Bush will have heard and will heed the message of the American people.
My questions are the following:
Is there not a better approach to governance?
Is it not possible to put wealth and power in the service of peace, stability, prosperity and the happiness of all peoples through a commitment to justice and respect for the rights of all nations, instead of aggression and war?
We all condemn terrorism, because its victims are the innocent.
But, can terrorism be contained and eradicated through war, destruction and the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocents?
If that were possible, then why has the problem not been resolved?
The sad experience of invading Iraq is before us all.
What has blind support for the Zionists by the US administration brought for the American people? It is regrettable that for the US administration, the interests of these occupiers supersedes the interests of the American people and of the other nations of the world.
What have the Zionists done for the American people that the US administration considers itself obliged to blindly support these infamous aggressors? Is it not because they have imposed themselves on a substantial portion of the banking, financial, cultural and media sectors?
I recommend that in a demonstration of respect for the American people and for humanity, the right of Palestinians to live in their own homeland should be recognized so that millions of Palestinian refugees can return to their homes and the future of all of Palestine and its form of government be determined in a referendum. This will benefit everyone.
Now that Iraq has a Constitution and an independent Assembly and Government, would it not be more beneficial to bring the US officers and soldiers home, and to spend the astronomical US military expenditures in Iraq for the welfare and prosperity of the American people? As you know very well, many victims of Katrina continue to suffer, and countless Americans continue to live in poverty and homelessness.
I'd also like to say a word to the winners of the recent elections in the US:
The United States has had many administrations; some who have left a positive legacy, and others that are neither remembered fondly by the American people nor by other nations.
Now that you control an important branch of the US Government, you will also be held to account by the people and by history.
If the US Government meets the current domestic and external challenges with an approach based on truth and Justice, it can remedy some of the past afflictions and alleviate some of the global resentment and hatred of America. But if the approach remains the same, it would not be unexpected that the American people would similarly reject the new electoral winners, although the recent elections, rather than reflecting a victory, in reality point to the failure of the current administration's policies. These issues had been extensively dealt with in my letter to President Bush earlier this year.
To sum up:
It is possible to govern based on an approach that is distinctly different from one of coercion, force and injustice.
It is possible to sincerely serve and promote common human values, and honesty and compassion.
It is possible to provide welfare and prosperity without tension, threats, imposition or war.
It is possible to lead the world towards the aspired perfection by adhering to unity, monotheism, morality and spirituality and drawing upon the teachings of the Divine Prophets.
Then, the American people, who are God-fearing and followers of Divine religions, will overcome every difficulty.
What I stated represents some of my anxieties and concerns.
I am confident that you, the American people, will play an instrumental role in the establishment of justice and spirituality throughout the world. The promises of the Almighty and His prophets will certainly be realized, Justice and Truth will prevail and all nations will live a true life in a climate replete with love, compassion and fraternity.
The US governing establishment, the authorities and the powerful should not choose irreversible paths. As all prophets have taught us, injustice and transgression will eventually bring about decline and demise. Today, the path of return to faith and spirituality is open and unimpeded.
We should all heed the Divine Word of the Holy Qur'an:
"But those who repent, have faith and do good may receive Salvation. Your Lord, alone, creates and chooses as He will, and others have no part in His choice; Glorified is God and Exalted above any partners they ascribe to Him." (28:67-68)
I pray to the Almighty to bless the Iranian and American nations and indeed all nations of the world with dignity and success.

Posted by Marisol at November 29, 2006 3:41 PM
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"Palestinian mothers, just like Iranian and American mothers, love their children, and are painfully bereaved by the imprisonment, wounding and murder of their children"

Yes, like this one:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=21198

Posted by: Infidel33 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:01 PM

And i'm sure in his nextSpeech in Iran he will be heard saying " Death to Isreal" , " Death to America " just like he went to the UN and talked of peace and friendship with the West and America, and then a week later said " Death to America " in a speech.

How long are we too suffer this Lying , scheming SOB?

Posted by: DUGGY [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:01 PM

AIG, yes, it was sent to all of the above. The self-loathers and Jew-haters eat this crap with a giant spoon.

Posted by: Infidel33 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:04 PM

Hey AhMED[s]:

Tell it to the Pope. Why don't u fly down to turkland and meet the old fella in person?

Sound scary to u?

This is your brain : O
This is your brain on islam: .


Think i'll make this my sig.

Hey, i didn't get a letter. Is it cuz I'm a German?
I feel LEFT OUT. Bwwaaa-hhaaaa... I'ma call the UN.

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:05 PM

Now we are learning the difference between a French letter
and an Iranian letter.

This AhMED sure is a Man of Letters.

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:06 PM

"Palestinian mothers, just like Iranian and American mothers, love their children, and are painfully bereaved by the imprisonment, wounding and murder of their children"


Oh, and they don't do this all on their own by strapping bombs on their kids??!!!

They only hate to lose their kids to an occasional ammo gone astray because now they have lost a future suicide bomba.

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:08 PM

Ahmadinejad sends letter to "the American people",

What a joke. Just which "American people" did he send this letter to? Pelosi? Kennedy? Bush? Laura Bush? Condi? Hillary? Jimmy Carter?

Oh please.

Now hold on just a minute here. Maybe we CAN bargin with this moron after all?

Say Mr. Ahmadinejad, would you consider taking in at least seven new residents to your country?

Perhaps a few hundred more? Former Presidents, Secretaries of State, Senators, and others of their ilk ... uh, err - uh, caliber?

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:10 PM

Oh brother!

1)I'm really moved at how A-Nut feels for the Iraqi people, people he no doubt wanted very much dead when they were under the thumb of Saddam Hussein.

2)Again with the palestinians. How many of them were living in "Palestine" in 1947? THOSE people MIGHT have a legit claim on a piece of land-their offspring do not. Hell-most of today's palestinians have never seen their god given plot of land in that mythical paradise. They might just as well stake a claim to the moon for all their whining.

3)What's A-Nut's angle? Is he trying to forestall the inevitable? Perhaps if he came clean on his nukes and quit supporting terrorism and quit calling for Israel's demise he MIGHT be taken somewhat seriously.

4)A-Nut just doesn't get the whole Israel deal. Because he's a Muslim he has no problem breaking pledges and stabbing people in the back like his idol Mr. Perfect. Most Americans feel differently-it would be morally shameful to cut Israel loose because we know the Holocaust did happen and another would follow were we to do so. Such shame is nonexistent in Islam. A-Nut continues to live in his delusional world of no Holocaust and the Zionist plot to rule the world.

5)I like how he tries to seperate the "noble American people" from the president. Fact is, it doesn't matter who the president is-this letter would have been sent had Clinton or Reagan or Kerry or Gore been in the White House. Iran has hated the US since 1979 no matter what.

6)Sorry A-Nut, but I'm not buying it. I'm sure most Iranians are like most Americans in that they don't want war. However, it is their president who's doing everything possible to drag the world into one. I just wish those people would rise up and depose this bastard and his regime of dirty old goats before it's too late.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:12 PM

Ahmadinejad is a honey-tongued serpent of disastrous proportions!!

Posted by: descendantofacrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:13 PM

2)Again with the palestinians. How many of them were living in "Palestine" in 1947?


Uh-NO!! The eviction of millions of ethnic Germans for instigating against CSSR uring WW2 set a reasonable precedent for eviction hostile populations which are a threat to the State they are citizens of.

if this doesn't apply to these pali-monsters - THEN WHEN DOES IT APPLY???

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:16 PM

I had to wonder what motivated this clown to write to me and my fellow Americans. He obviously gets very inspired by writing to America. Buy why? Where's the RUB??

Now it's obvious. He ACTUALLY BELIEVES that he can schmoozle Christians with his unctuous prose and drive a wedge between them and the Jews.

It's the JOOOOOOOOOS! It's ISRAEL!!!

An opportunity to make mischief between Jew and Christian. This is what he gets off on.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:18 PM

Guantanamo? Abu-Ghraib? Give us a break! Two little examples, of what??? Where they bring the satanic bible koran to the inmates in white gloves???


If I were one of the guards i'd be DAMN sure to put a nice FAT GREEN ONE [brown and yellow also works] somewhere between the pages of this crap pamphlet... anyone from Camp Gitmo reading this? :-)

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:20 PM

I have an idea. Let's send a letter to Ahmadinejad! Any volunteers for formulating the letter?

Posted by: americaningermany


Don't get me started. I have so much work to do but there is so much going on. This is definitely a productivity-drain. See the effect islam has even on some of the best of us? Keeps us from working.

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:21 PM

I don't know, now that the Pope has rediscovered Christians share heritage and common lineage with islam, this letter should go down a peach with them there in Bible Belt.

Jist of the message:
"It is all the fault of the Jooos. We and You are the same divided by our common enemy: the Jooos. Get rid of the Jooos and lets all kiss and make up, after all, wasn't Jesus a prophet of allah too? Sure he wan't the Son of God, but lets not split hair on that shall we. Help us make the bomb, drive the Joos in the water and lets all live happily ever after. That's right, go ask the Pope, even he believes that islam is the religion of peace and that islam is good to Christians. After all, if it wasn't for the Jooos, you and me, we could have sawn up the world between the two of us. That's right, you can have the Western half, and we'll have the Eastern half. Now, how about it?".

Posted by: Hermit [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:21 PM

5)I like how he tries to seperate the "noble American people" from the president. Fact is, it doesn't matter who the president is-this letter would have been sent had Clinton or Reagan or Kerry or Gore been in the White House. Iran has hated the US since 1979 no matter what.


Jimmy Carter is the President who got the letter.

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:23 PM

An opportunity to make mischief between Jew and Christian. This is what he gets off on.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2


Not going to happen. Fool me once..

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:24 PM

What Ahmadinejad doesn’t say and the Quran, which he believes, does say is that if you don’t repent, YOU WILL BE DESTROYED….

It is a WARNING…

Posted by: Levi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:24 PM

NOT THAT THE IRANIAN LEADER EVEN DERSERVES A REPLY, BUT IT WOULD GO LIKE THIS:

In Reply to the letter of Mr. Ahmadinejad
The President of the Islamic Republic of Iran


Mr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
The Presidential Office
Teheran, Iran

Don’t be surprised if I do not address you as “Mr. President”. A president is defined as “the highest chief executive of a country designated by people in a free election to the highest office of the country”. You however, are neither the highest personality of your country nor have you been freely elected by your fellow countrymen. I remind you that you have been named the winner of an election in which the participation of over 1000 candidates including university professors from both inside and outside Iran, known political activists and even reformists from within your own regime had been ruled out by a non-elected institution. (The Council of the Guardians of the Constitution)

In addition to this massive exclusion of candidates in the presidential election of June 2005, the election was not even fair to those who had survived the Guardians of the Constitution’s filtering procedure. The existence of a plan called “Bassir” was brought to my attention. This was designed to incite the armed forces of the country, notably “The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps” and the Iranian paramilitary “Bassij” to collect votes and to fill the ballot boxes. The extent of this electoral fraud was such that in some places your votes outnumbered the registered voters! For instance, results demonstrated that in “Shemiran”, the pilot area where you have been the happy winner, the number of votes cast was 8 times greater than

Do not try to blame the enemies of the Islamic Republic of Iran for reminding the world of the lack of free elections in your country in general, and particularly that of June 2005. You have certainly not forgotten that even Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani (one of the pillars of your revolution) could do nothing but complaining to God Almighty about all these injustices.

You start your letter with questions that your claims are regularly debated by Iranian people and especially among students. Due of the reasons cited above and many others, I cannot allow you to address me in the name of Iranian people and Iranian students. Which students? Those who have been deprived of education because they drew your cartoon in a university journal? Those who are imprisoned and tortured to death because they have protested against the assassination of their friends? Do you speak for the students who have been protesting because you have decided to bury your "martyrs" on the university campus and in this way turn the universities into cemeteries? Students, who sadly, in what should be the best years of their life, prefer death to life and commit suicide?

Your letter of 8 May 2006, instead of being an attempt to improve the relationships between our two countries, or to alleviate international concerns regarding your nuclear ambitions, has been clearly designed to influence the fundamentalists and the enemies of the West.

However, I am writing this to address the major points of your letter, hoping that even those fundamentalists can read them and think for a few seconds without prejudice.

Regarding the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Saddam Hussein’s willingness to employ them, this should not be held in doubt, particularly by Iranians who have been their victims. The inspections made in Iraq between 1992 and 1998 revealed the extent of Bath Regime’s ambitions to obtain weapons of mass destruction. The expulsion of United Nations inspectors from Iraq in 1998 had lead us to suspect Saddam’s intentions. Aggressive intentions which were clearly demonstrated during the Iran-Iraq’s war and also during the invasion of Kuwait.

It is true that later it was proved that the main parts of intelligence received from Iraq were faulty, but in the absence of any reliable international inspections from 1998 to 2003, which responsible leader in this world could have left the security of a sensitive region like the Middle East to the good intentions of a dictator like Saddam Hussein?

If today you admit the general happiness of the region’s people about Saddam’s removal from the power, do not forget that American lives and money made this possible. Restoration of security and democracy in Iraq faces great difficulties, but Mr. Ahmadi Nejad, who causes these difficulties? Who carries out the bombings and the killings of women, children and workers? Are they not the fanatics like you who consider the fight against the West more important than innocents lives and more important than any thing else in this world?

You accuse the West of having helped Iraq during the war with Iran. Do I need to remind you that your greatest supporter today (Russia) had a defense treaty agreement with Iraq and provided Iraq with 85% of all her military needs?

The accident which caused the shooting down of an Iranian passenger airplane in the Persian Gulf was a deplorable mistake. We reacted quickly to this accident and apologized unreservedly, offering compensation to the victims’ families. Your regime insisted that the compensation be paid to the Iranian government while we preferred it to go directly to the victims’ families. This unfortunate accident could undoubtedly have been avoided, if Iran's Civil Aviation Organization had the common sense to choose other air routes than the one over the war zone.

Although you disagree, we believe that the United States of America was neutral in Iran-Iraq’s war. After your revolution of 1979, the American government recognized the new regime and had a sincere desire to continue its friendly relationship with Iran. For further information on this matter, I advise you to read all books and memories of those involved in the events of that period, both Iranian and foreigners (The non censored versions, would of course be a better option).

What makes you believe in American hostility towards the Islamic revolution of 1979? Particularly as there were so many people who, unjustly, accused and continue to accuse the US of helping your revolution along by making the Shah’s regime practically untenable.

The initial good intentions of our country was rewarded by launching a barbaric, attack on our Embassy in Tehran and taking our diplomats hostage. In doing this, your regime flouted the most elementary principles of international laws and yet today you speak to me of international principles.

Since that hostage taking event and regardless of the different American governments and policies in place, your hostility towards my country has been a constant principle in your foreign and even internal policies. My country’s flag has been regularly insulted, it has been set on fire and your soldiers have trampled it under foot. In every religious and political gathering, your cries of “death to America” are heard and you openly incite the destruction of my country. You help and train anti-American terrorist groups. You have arrogantly refused the friendly hand of all previous American governments, and now you expect us to respect you and to take no hostile actions against you.

Mr. Ahmadinejad,

You talk about the prisoners of Guantanamo Bay as if they were innocent altar boys. These prisoners are in fact the men trained by Al Qhaeda in more than 30 training camps in Afghanistan to carry out terrorist attacks against my country and the West. The famous terrorist, Abou Moussab Al Zarqavi is one of them who with the generous help of your intelligent services managed to reach Iraq under the protection of Saddam Hussein.

The reason why they are kept in Guantanamo Bay is the lack of international laws dealing with terrorism. Some governments, such as yours, do not allow an agreement on the definition of the word "terrorism" to be reached. Whenever the West is attacked you prefer to call it a “liberating struggle” than terrorism.

The prisoners of Guantanamo Bay have been arrested in the war between the USA and the Taliban and Al Qhaeda. Their trial within the American judiciary system, if not impossible, is very difficult. Simply because they have not committed any crimes on American soil. Some prisoners have been repatriated only to resume their involvement in terrorist activities.

The prisoners of Guantanamo Bay can be considered as prisoners of war. This would suggest that they need to be detained till a normalization of the situation.

I do not claim that these people are being held in luxurious surroundings however, the envoys of the international Red Cross visit them on a regular basis and check their sanitary and life conditions while the prisoners of your country are deprived of these rights. In addition, regarding your claims that we have "kidnapped and kept people in hidden prisons", take a closer look at your own regime and at yourself to see whether you are in a position to accuse others.

Mr. Ahmadi Nejad

You mention in your letter that Israel did not exist 60 years ago. There are plenty of other countries which did not exist 60 years ago neither. Among Iran’s present neighbors only Turkey and Afghanistan can boast of over 250 years political existence, the rest have been created in the 20th century and some only in the last 15 years.

Anti-Jewish people like you, present the facts as if a group of European Jews with no link whatsoever with Palestine, came and massacred the real owners of those lands and built Israel instead.

I do not intend to tell you the story of the Jewish nation but I would point out that the Jews have historical roots in Palestine. What should be considered is whether an interruption in a nation’s sovereignty over its land means that sovereignty right should be limited. “Goa” was invaded by Indian troops in 1961 after being ruled for 450 years by the Portugese. The international community however, did not deny the right of Indian sovereignty over “Goa” even after all those years.

You believe that Palestinians, who left this land since 80 years ago, voluntarily or by force, can still claim sovereignty. The question is: what is the length of time after which the sovereignty of a nation over its land is no longer recognized, after 60 years, 450 years or 1000 years and who makes this judgment?

It is true that the ancient boundaries, past empires and old countries could not be restored again without endangering an already frail world peace. However, the right of nations to return to their historical lands could not be denied easily. In such conditions, accepting the status quo might be the best way to compensate all injustices committed in the past.

Your friends and allies, Mr. Ahmadinejad, only see the facts the way they wish to. I am not Israel’s attorney, they can defend themselves when needed. With regard to the attitude and manners of Israel, there are issues to be criticized and the US government has in many cases been clear in their criticism. But when you talk about the brutal operations of Israeli forces against Palestinians, do not forget the attacks carried out by Palestinian terrorist groups. These groups rely on your regime’s support for financing, training and media exposure. If killing innocent people is horrible, how can you admire, encourage and invest in the suicide bombings in the buses, restaurants and markets in Israel?

In 1993, the world came close to the implementation of a fair peace in this region. Who, using terror attacks, tried and succeeded in disrupting the peace?

Mr. Ahmadinejad,

You repeatedly deny the mass murder of Jews by Nazis during the World War II. There are undeniable documents to prove this historical fact, and for further information, I strongly advise you to visit the Yad Vashem memorial in Israel. This said, even though you and other revisionist friends claim to have proof that the number of victims of the holocaust were 3 or 4 million and not 6 million, does this diminish the nature of the atrocities committed by the Nazis? Is the oppression of people solely because of their tribal or religious identity not condemnable in your beliefs? If it were so, you would probably treat the “Bahrain's”, the non Moslems and even the non Shiites slightly better.

The most interesting point in your letter is your pressing demand for implementation of a referendum with participation by all refugees and exiled Palestinians to decide on the nature and even the name of the future Palestine. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of your pre-conditions to this referendum be the non participation of Jews who have not been living in Palestine for a few generations. In other words, your solution for settlement of peace in the Middle East would be that Palestinians vote the dissolution of Israel and that this should be accepted by Jewish people. I imagine you must be encouraged by your Leader each time you talk about this intelligent project.

If the right of Palestinians to a referendum is so dear to you, why do you refuse the Iranian people the same right? Iranians have been demanding free elections and a referendum to change the constitution for years now. But they are attacked in the streets by your "civil agents", they are oppressed and imprisoned. They are tortured and expelled from your universities.

Mr. Ahmadinejad,

I am pleased to see that you consider the will and eagerness to "scientific achievements as one of the most basic rights for all nations". I can only hope that you stick to this principle by canceling the censorship of scientific books and papers in the fields of biology, history and philosophy etc... So that researchers may be permitted to freely research and ask questions in all subjects for instance, creation, evolution, humanity, history of Iran and Islam, and that they may be allowed to publish their works.

During the Middle Ages, some ignorant religious people were categorically refusing the right of scientific investigation as they firmly believed that "all the knowledge that men needed were to be found in the Holy Book". Fortunately, 500 years ago, Europe managed to free herself from this yoke and opened the way to knowledge and scientific progress. In other societies, even a few decades ago, there were ignorant and unenlightened people who were preaching against Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, engineering etc... And who believed in only "two forms of knowledge; religious knowledge dealing with men’s soul and medical knowledge dealing with their bodies". They were hostiles to all types of arts, music, painting, sculpture, dance and singing. These idiots forbade whatever was from the West; radio, television, cinema, occidental medicines and even the railway. In your own country, some of your religious leaders were against the railway; please refer to the archives to find out why the railway station of “Sabzevar” was built 50 kilometres out of the town. Hostility towards new technologies e.g. satellite broadcastings, still exists in Iran today.

Regarding your nuclear program or what you call the "nuclear research and investigation program". Your regime, regardless of all your obligations towards the IAEA, has deceived them for 19 years by hiding your so called peaceful nuclear activities. You certainly know that any country capable of enriching uranium to 4.5% will also be able to do it up to 90% and higher and ultimately make atomic bombs. Do not try to hide your real intentions behind the nuclear fuel cycle. In which nuclear power plant are you planning to employ this nuclear fuel cycle? You have one nuclear power reactor in construction to generate electricity, for which Russia has guaranteed a 10 year fuel provision. There is no other reactor, and customers are not lined up either. Is there any other reason for this program other than using the excuse of scientific progress to obtain the knowledge and equipments of bomb making? You have purchased facilities from China and Russia to enrich uranium without them being declared to the IAEA. Iran and Libya have purchased the same facilities and plans and these purchases were hidden from the IAEA. All facilities you have provided from Pakistan and North Korea were later presented by Iranian authorities as their local findings and achievements.

And you continue to hide and lie. The inspectors of the IAEA have not been permitted to inspect your suspicious sites. You do not permit your scientists to be interviewed by IAEA. You hide all requested plans and programs from inspectors and are still stunned as to why the international community does not trust you.

In these circumstances, and given your relationships with terrorist organizations, the hatred you preach against the West and your vows to wipe Israel out of the map, allowing you to obtain atomic bombs would appear foolhardy.

Mr. Ahmadinejad, Your letter contains some interesting elements. For instance, you condemn lying and in the next line, you make a false reproach to the USA. You say that we do not permit the Latin Americans to freely elect their governments. Obviously you are not familiar with the situation in this region and have not noticed that apart from your friend “Cuba”, all other Latin American governments have been elected with free elections and many of them such as the left wing governments of Venezuela, Brazil, Argentine, Chile and recently Bolivia do not back the USA.

Regarding Africa, you write as if we were still in the 1960’s claiming that on this continent everything is ready for development and progress which is thwarted by the hostility of the nasty Americans and Europeans.

Mr. Ahmadinejad,

If development and progress depended on the natural minerals and other underground sources of a country, Denmark one of the most developed countries in the world, would have been considered as a less developed one. I do not intend to insult any people, but a nation who has nothing else to present to the international community but its minerals could not be realistically considered as "creative, hard workers and intelligent". Do not blame the developed countries for buying your petrol and other resources. Have you ever thought what would happen to you if the developed countries stopped buying them from you?

Mr. Ahmadinejad,

I will now address a few other issues that you raised, again in the name of the Iranian people. Of course my explanations are not for you whose intension is only propaganda but for other readers of this letter.

We never had any kind of hostility towards oil nationalization in Iran at the beginning of 1950s. This was known to Mr. Mohammad Mossadegh the Iranian prime minister of the time, better than anybody else. The United States of America did their best to help finding equitable solutions to the divergence between Iran and Great Britain. Mr. Averell Harriman’s mission to Iran in July 1951 and the proposals given to Mr. Mossadegh were among these efforts. However, Mr. Mossadegh’s way of managing governmental affairs placed him in such a position that he could not stop the wave he had created. Communists and soviet agents made the most of this situation. Bear in mind that until March 1953, when Mr. Mossadaegh’s removal from power was being planned, Stalin was still alive. The principal goal of USA in taking part in actions leading to his removal from power was solely to avoid Iran falling in Stalin’s hands and not for oil.

Madeleine Albright, the former Secretary of State offered America’s apologies to your predecessor, Mohammad Khatami, but this was not accepted by the Islamic Republic of Iran.

With the great interest that you show in the history of the last century, have you noted and thanked the USA for their role in returning “Azerbaijan” and” Kurdistan” to Iran in 1946?

It is astonishing that you also refer to the freezing of Iranian assets by USA. I take this opportunity to remind you that these frozen Iranian assets of up to 10.52 billion dollars plus interest were repaid in two instalments to the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran according to the agreement reached between two countries during the “Algiers agreement”. I suggest you trace them and see where they have gone to!

The only money left is a few million dollars confiscated from the account of the Iranian Embassy in Washington when you attacked the US embassy in Iran and if you looked into this case, you would realise that in this matter we are the debtors and certainly not you. Next time you talk about Iranian assets confiscated by the US government, please explain what assets you refer to, so we can look into it carefully.

Mr. Ahmadinejad,

In your letter, the 9/11 attacks have been implicitly attributed to our intelligent services. Apparently, since 19 August 1978, when the fundamentalists set fire to a movie theatre “Cinema Rex of Abadan” burning hundreds of Iranians trapped inside the hall, and then you attributed this horrendous act to the Shah’s regime, this became a routine tactic of your regime to blame these unjustifiable odious crimes on your enemies.

It is clear that our intelligent service was proved ineffective and the weakness of our system permitted the terrorists to execute their evil plans. The 9/11 commission has published a, almost 600 pages document, detailing the results of their investigation. If you are interested in finding out more about those attacks ask your representatives in the US for a copy, unless of course you prefer to rely on the rumours nursed in local cafes all over the Middle East.

Mr. Ahmadinejad,

You probably expect the American tax payers to thank you for your concern regarding the excessive money spent on Iraq’s war but it is useful to remind you that there is almost nothing the President of the United States can do without the permission and approval of the US Congress and the Senate. As President, I am not allowed to spend even one cent from the country’s budget without it being approved and passed by the members of the parliament. Therefore, it is clear that what has been spent in Iraq has been approved by the representatives of American people.

However, can you the leaders of Islamic republic of Iran, claim to have done the same with your country’s budget? Can you explain to the Iranian people what has been done with the extra 24 billion dollars income in the last financial year (March 2005-March 2006) and clarify what happened to the hundreds of billion of dollars income from oil sales since your revolution? Have you built houses for homeless people, have you rescued nearly 10% of Iranians from drug addiction, have you created jobs, have you rebuilt the war zones, have you established any plans for the economical, industrial and agricultural developments of your country, have you replanted your forests destroyed in the last 27 years, have you improved sanitary conditions for your fellow countrymen? Have you rebuilt the ruins of “Roudbar” and “Bam”? Tell, what have you done?

In the last 27 years of your regime despite all your promises:

Instead of prosperity, peace and security, you have delivered unemployment and insecurity to the Iranian people. The balconies of apartments in Tehran are barricaded to protect against all type of aggressions. A signs of the complete insecurity you have
brought to your people.

Instead of restoring justice, you defended and enriched only yours.

You have spread drugs among young people.

You have pushed Iranian women to prostitution. Is this in accordance with the religious education you often preach?

You have said much on oppressed and poor people’s rights and completely
neglected them afterwards.

You used the pretext of exporting your Islamic revolution as a way of export terrorism and fundamentalism.

You have built atrocious prisons and filled them with freedom seekers, students, workers, journalists and innocents.

You have tortured and killed and then promoted the killers, torturers. Even lawyers and attorneys of the victims have been imprisoned.

You have lied over and over and expect us to believe that your nuclear program will never put the international community in danger.

Yes, Mr. Ahmadi Nejad, as you claim, "no government built on lies and cruelty has ever survived" and you and your regime will be judged by Iranian people.

May 12, 2006

George W. Bush
The President of the United States of America
White House
Washington D.C.
USA

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:24 PM

We are all inclined towards the good, and towards extending a helping hand to one another, particularly to those in need.
--- Prez Mahmoud having a personal conversation with the American people

Well, apparently although Israeli Jews are good and tend to help others, they are particularly need to be mass murdered in a thermonuclear blast.

Unless Prez Mahmoud is contradicting himself, which would be a hypocritical, manipulative, terrible, and antisemitic thing to do.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:31 PM

Reply to Ahmadinejad at:

http://thug-in-chief.blogspot.com/

I will clean this up later but I wanted to get something up quick so anybody that wishes to do so can send Ahmadinejad a reply.

I hope Robert doesn't mind me using his Thug-in-Chief name and I can change it if necessary :)

Posted by: Infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:31 PM

I have an idea. Let's send a letter to Ahmadinejad! Any volunteers for formulating the letter?

Posted by: americaningermany

Yes, Mr. Ahmadi Nejad, as you claim, "no government built on lies and cruelty has ever survived" and you and your regime will be judged by Iranian people.

May 12, 2006

George W. Bush
The President of the United States of America
White House
Washington D.C.
USA


Posted by: exsgtbrow

Damn that was QUICK!! And very well-done. I couldn't have done nearly as well nor as fast in so little time.

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:31 PM

Hermit, you have it wrong about the Bible Belt reaction. We are still pissed about his UN performance and this letter will not be any help to him here.

My letter to the nut:

Mr. President,

You have 48 hours to evacuate 3 major cities of your choice. OK, 2 cities if that is all you have.

GWB

Posted by: Hillbilly [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:31 PM

This guy wants a dialogue? Where's the return address?

Posted by: Karl Pov [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:35 PM

2)Again with the palestinians. How many of them were living in "Palestine" in 1947?


Uh-NO!! The eviction of millions of ethnic Germans for instigating against CSSR uring WW2 set a reasonable precedent for eviction hostile populations which are a threat to the State they are citizens of.

if this doesn't apply to these pali-monsters - THEN WHEN DOES IT APPLY???

Posted by: germaninamerica at November 29, 2006 04:16 PM

Good point. I was trying to be a little compassionate to the supreme victims and whiners but on second thought they DID lose a war so screw them!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:36 PM

O Watchers,I just couldn't resist:

"Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Moslems,
And everybody hates the Jews."


http://www.casualhacker.net/tom.lehrer/the_year.html

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:37 PM

AHMADINEJAD DID HIT ALL OF THE DEMOCRATIC "TALKING POINTS"!!!

Posted by: Levi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:42 PM

That sure was a long letter. No wonder the poor man never has time to update his website.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:44 PM

Returned to Sender. Address unknown

The time for talking to the Iranian government ended on 30 August 2006.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:45 PM

Good point. I was trying to be a little compassionate to the supreme victims and whiners but on second thought they DID lose a war so screw them!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS


As my dad once told me:

you start a war and lose it - you gotta suck it up and live with the consequences.

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:46 PM

Dear Munchkin of MOslemland:

Have received your letter.

We regret to inform you of a few things. Namely:

Your attempts to address us apart from our Government is non-sequitur. UNlike YOUR system, We are a Government, of the people, by the people, and for the people, no matter what those misanthropic malcontents you call sources inside our country say to you.
To insult our Government is to insult US...ALL of us.

We have a Judge here in this country that coined an old adage that holds true:
"Don't pee on my leg & tell me it's raining!"
You are doing just that.
Your futile efforts to fool us ranks less than that of a 3rd grade schoolchild- we have seen what you REALLY say when the cameras are not on you.

While we Amercians appear to fight, argue and bicker amongst ourselves, that is a tiff between siblings. When you come in and tell us what you THINK we are about, we laugh at you, especially when you claim to know more about us than we do, when it is the exact opposite.
You see, Mr Munchkin, it is a system we have enjoyed for over 200 years, but it's a civilized thing, you wouldn't understand.
Things may not appear to always work right here, but they DO work, and far better than that sham of a system you have there.
We are also far more aware of your scam than you think, especially that of your practice widely accepted in your peers circles as TAQIYYAH. We know it amounts to the allowance to beg, borrow, steal, rape, rob, murder, et. al,...all in the name of that religion of yours, which makes it completely acceptable.
We Americans see that as a blank check, a "get out of jail free" card, so to speak, or more simply put, a practice of the law of expediancy (the end justifies the means), exempting you from any hypocrisy which arises amidst your scam, like this letter you sent.
We know it represents hypocrisy of the NTH degree (as if it's the first time you've ever done so, lol).
We are also aware of what that last comment represents in your *ahem* "faith". We reiterate:
You are a hypocrite of the NTH DEGREE...and have NO room calling anyone, especially us, anything derogatory.

Your claims of peaveful nukes is so transparent it's invisible. How do we know? Simple.

*******At no time has any of your plants been hooked up to any power grid, nor are any plans imminent, nor is there any attempt to make preparations for such. Furthermore, you don't need Plutonium for power reactors, as lighter substances are easily feasible...you also cannot claim "we're peaceful" out one side of your mouth, while threatening to nuke Isreal out the other...in every part of the universe, that is known as a dead giveaway.*******
Plain enough? Good...

A nation awash in oil, especially a blatantly obvious rogue lead by a lunatic like you is also a dead giveaway of real intent, and it's nothing to do with peace.

We disrupted your & your' allies scam of world domination a few years back, you got caught off guard, and have to stall for time until you can do a hurry-up job on your armaments.
We also saw YOU coming a mile away, and have a very nice picture of you at the US Embassy a few years ago which is unmistakably YOU, so save your hypocritical pontificacy...it doesn't wash with us.

Regardless, thank you for your letter...it told us a lot more of you and your situation than you could ever imagine (you claim to be intelligent, so feel free to try and figure it out).

I would expect in the future, you read Sun Tzu before pursuing said goal of yours, namely, to never let your enemy know what you really think, say, plan, etc...you have committed a cardinal sin in this game of yours.

We regret to inform you that said correspondence fell on deaf ears, but we do appreciate your comedic routine. Perhaps we could syndicate a TV show for you here, called "The Guiding Shi'ite". It would be a big hit, and it could help your inflation rate immensely in Iran.

In the mean time, we maintain our position of "Sic vis Pacem, Parabellum".
We look forward to your next attempt at correspondence at your convenience.

LAN ASTASLEM!

Have a nice day!

The American People

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:46 PM

Imanutjob always writes incoherent letters. And he mentions allah at least 150 times for each letter he writes.

Posted by: EliasAlucard [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:47 PM

O Watchers,I just couldn't resist:

"Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Moslems,
And everybody hates the Jews."


I have that album! it's his best one too.

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:47 PM

Bares repeating among the long, but excellent, letters:

AHMADINEJAD DID HIT ALL OF THE DEMOCRATIC "TALKING POINTS"!!!

Posted by: Levi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:49 PM

Hey Morons, by politicizing this, turning into a Dhimmicrat v Repugnican thing, a left v right thing, you clowns are playing into the hands of Ahmadinutjob and the Islamists..

Divide and conquer.

Unfortunately the division is homespun, by so called "conservatives", but keep it up and Islam will be triumphant.

A house divided against itself cannot stand...Jesus the Christ and Abraham Lincoln. Right Wingers are the Great Dividers..and by the way Islam is the epitomy of right wing philosophy and conservativism.

Posted by: Nariz [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:52 PM

Imanutjob always writes incoherent letters. And he mentions allah at least 150 times for each letter he writes.

Posted by: EliasAlucard at November 29, 2006 04:47 PM

He has to, otherwise he won't get the Mahdi's seal of approval.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:54 PM

My letter to AhMED:

Eat my shorts!

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:56 PM

"He has to, otherwise he won't get the Mahdi's seal of approval."
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
---------

That, or he's just not sane.

Posted by: EliasAlucard [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:56 PM

Guys and gals;
Ya gotta go to FOX and take a look at the letters people are writing back at Speak Out. They have a link right under the story.
I was falling off my chair laughing! Especially the one where the guy says"We have a saying here in America" "Put down the crack pipe and step back slowly"
I thought I was lost and reading JW. These regular Americans told him what for and reminded him of the Embassy and the threats to Israel and the whole world. They pretty much told him to clean house or butt out.
That was just in the first hour or so. Wait til people get home from work.
I can only hope his flunkies aren't too scared of him to translate them for him.

Posted by: auntbea [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:57 PM

As my ancestors did before me, I hereby reject the call to Islam. The United States is a secular nation and by definition the American people in their Constitution for the United States say to him, we as a nation reject the call to Islam or to any other religion. So I guess this means war. So be it. It is his choice, not ours.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:58 PM

exsgtbrown,
Your reply to Ahmadinejad was excellent, but a bit wordy at 4018 words. (I pasted it into a Word document and utilized "word count") Allow me to condense your letter as follows:

Dear Thug-in-Chief,

You are an illegitimate "leader" as your election was not free and fair and therefore, you do not speak for your people.

You have a selective memory when it comes to history and your definition of "truth" and "justice" is self serving propaganda, so all your arguments fall flat.

Contrary to your country, the American people have free access to the print and electronic media and we cannot be manipulated, indoctrinated, and duped by deceitful, hate-mongering rhetoric such as your letter portrays.

In closing, Dear Mahmoud, go pound sand.

Sincerely,

The American People.


Posted by: Xero G [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:58 PM

Tehran Times Opinion Column: Dialogue with Islam or a Christian alliance against Muslims?

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 4:58 PM

exsgtbrown: "Don’t be surprised if I do not address you as “Mr. President”. A president is defined as “the highest chief executive of a country designated by people in a free election to the highest office of the country”.

---

Funny, I know of another just such a miscreant, a despot, a suppressor of human rights and political opposition, an exporter of jihadi terrorist, a prolific prolifelator of nuclear technology and he is also not really elected by his people but came to power in a military coup.

But our "President" is quite happy to address him as a "President". In fact they are really good buddies. He gets billions in US aid, not to mention tons of military hardware and is a great ally in our "fight against terrorism".

Any guesses who?

In fact, listen to the Iranian Prez. Seek and build on Christians common heritage with Islam that the Pope speaks of and dump the Jooos.

Posted by: Hermit [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:02 PM

No letter, but some questions to the Iranian people:

What did your president do during the Iran-Iraq War? Did he fight bravely for his nation against the invaders in its moment of peril? Or was he hiding in school somewhere while you sent your 12 year olds to a certain death digging up mines and dodging machine gun bullets? One would think your president was fighting for the survival of your nation during the bloodiest war in its recent history. Where will he be when he leads you into an even worse war?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:05 PM

What a polite guy. Sounds like he's getting ready to 'make his move'. First the invitation to Islam, then they slit our throats in we say no. Well, at least he's following the Korans protocol.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:12 PM

Another pointy fingered lecture from a most retrograde and rabid baboon.

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:17 PM

(Sorry to baboons everywhere. That was uncalled for on my part.)

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:17 PM

Thanks AIG:

I actually did, and await a response.

As for our colleague nariz, who claims islam is right wing...LMMFAO.
No system who excercises absolute control over their people can claim right wing (right wing has less authoritarianism, left has more. That confusion stemmed from Harry Hopkins in the 30s trying to differentiate nazis and communists )...but that's another forum altogether.

To islamforlosers, the munchkin was part and parcel the embassy mob who kidnapped our people there...we already knew this long ago as he's been identified as one of those loons.

Looks like this is getting rather interesting.

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:25 PM

@Hermit

Come out of the dark cave and see the LIGHT. You're obviously uneducated and willfully if you wrote the following post seriously.

"In fact, listen to the Iranian Prez. Seek and build on Christians common heritage with Islam that the Pope speaks of and dump the Jooos."

Judaism is the birth mother of Christianity.

Izlam is the Cult of The Anti-Christ.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:32 PM

To islamforlosers, the munchkin was part and parcel the embassy mob who kidnapped our people there...we already knew this long ago as he's been identified as one of those loons.

Looks like this is getting rather interesting.

;-)


Posted by: jcom972 at November 29, 2006 05:25 PM

Yup, that I know. I'm just wondering what he did after that little escapade. I haven't heard any accounts of battlefield bravery coming from this guy.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:45 PM

exsgtbrown,
Wow what a letter! I had forgotton so much of what you wrote about.
But one small point, it's congress not parliament.
I think that once again these third world dictators just don't get this 'of, by, and for the people thing'. It's just too foriegn to them.

They also don't get the fact that our ethics and laws are called Judeo-Christain for a reason. Or that the first half of the Bible a lot of us use is all about the Jews, (Off topic, but check out the very end of Revelations and what it says about taking and using words from the Book. I never noticed before today.)

They also don't get that the kick butt attitude that the Israelis have is the same one we have. We just don't have anyone shooting at us here at home.
The news doesn't talk much about the regular ole American patriot,who believes whole-heartedly in his freedom under a democratic system. The people who would defend this country doorway to doorway if it came to that.

They just aren't NEWS

Instead of getting his assessment of the American Psyche from The Treason Times he should check out the movie "Failsafe"
Might make him think before lauching those rockets he got from Russia with a nuke on top.

Posted by: auntbea [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:54 PM

"Both greatly value and readily embrace the promotion of human ideals such as compassion, empathy, respect for the rights of human beings, securing justice and equity, and defending the innocent and the weak against oppressors and bullies."

Man I can hear the violens in the backround with this one. This is too funny to even respond. A country that hangs teenage girls for getting raped is lecturing us about human rights...

The sad part is he my be crazy but not stupid. He seems to get the fact that their are people out their dumb enough to bite this hook.


If I were president I would respond with a simple letter. It would say...


Dear, Mr. Ahmadinejad

Nutz!

Have a nice life, President of the United States..

Posted by: greatcometof1577 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 5:57 PM

Ahmadinejad deserves at least as much respect as President Bush got from him: Any letters should be to the Noble Iranians.

Posted by: freedomschool [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 6:10 PM
O, Almighty God, bestow upon humanity the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers.

Dear Mr. A (do you mind if I call you that?)

Although I am not an American per se I am a North American so I hope you will allow me to interject a small point into this discussion.

In the preamble to your letter you speak of the Mahdi, the so-called "rightly guided one", the perfect human being. I think it's about time you and your johnny-come-lately coreligionists were informed that the Mahdi has already come. The only rightly-guided one or perfect example sent by God had done his business here on earth 2000 years ago, over 600 years before Mohammad's delusional ravings and pathetic dreams of glory.

It's about time you folks stopped insulting his name by debasing him to the status of a mere prophet. In your faith, as you will confirm, prophets are a dime a dozen and Jesus was just a face in the crowd, but the faith of Christians is based on the *principal source documents* about the historical Jesus, not some 7th century fantasy, and to those who hold to this faith Jesus stands at the center of history.

Please stop pretending that this is a little matter of nomenclature and that you intend to correct some "little boo-boo" about who Jesus was. The nature of Jesus is at the core of Christianity. Without Jesus as Christ there is no Christianity. Note: "Christianity" = "Christ's ones". "Christ" is the greek equivalent of the Hebrew "Messiah", the only analogous concept to the Mahdi in our faith.

It is offensive in the extreme to suggest to us that we merely have to discard a few "silly notions" and voila there would be no disagreement with Islam.

As recorded in the New Testament the Jews understood Jesus' claims to Messiahhood. Those who disbelieved rightly treated him as a heretic, and indeed, if his claims are false then that must be the logical conclusion.

But calling him a mere prophet is not an option; it is patronizing in the extreme. Given the radical claims of Christ there are only three options that can be chosen by a rational person regarding his nature:

1. He is an outright liar -- he knew he was not the Messiah (or, to you, the Mahdi), but maliciously promoted himself as such anyway, for personal gain.

2. He is a lunatic -- like many, so far deluded with his own importance or by some malfunction of his higher functions that he is suitable only to be pitied or placed in an asylum; his claims, then, stand to be ignored or ridiculed

or

3. He is who he claimed to be: the Christ, Messiah, Mahdi, Lord of All, the focal point of all history.

You can rationally subscribe to any of these three views, Mr A., but you cannot say that he was simply a good man or a prophet of God. Good men and prophets do not pretend to special places in history that do not belong to them. I respect those who regard Jesus as a fraud or a raving lunatic, but I have great difficulty respecting those who wish to twist his words into a massive contradiction of his actual message, thereby insulting the adherents of the largest religion in the world and (as we happen to believe) also insulting the very God whom you claim to serve.

You and your muslim coreligionists may consider yourselves lucky that, unlike in your religion, we are admonished to love our enemies.

If our demeanor or doctrine even remotely resembled yours, everytime a world figure in Islam made outrageous statements like yours about our faith there would follow massive demonstrations around the world, mosques razed and innocent muslims in many countries blown up or decapitated. Please bear this in mind next time you decide to invite others into the glorious light of Islam; and show a little basic human sensibility.

But, since you have so graciously offered an invitation to us, let me pass one along to you from the (true!) Mahdi himself: "Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door I will come in and eat with him, and he with me." (Rev. 3:20) Jesus loves you, Mr. A. He loves not only the oppressed in your regime but he also loves the oppresive tyrants that rule over them, and he would redeem you from your own tyrannical nature. I call you to *true* submission to the only one who can set you free.

You cannot bring in the Mahdi by starting a nuclear war as you apparently hope to do -- the Rightly Guided One has already come. It is for you to come into his light.

Posted by: Archimedes2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 6:13 PM

Wow!!!!

What a great letter Archimedes2.

Breathtaking and true...so true.

Posted by: Levi [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 6:18 PM

Nariz -- grow a brain!!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 6:54 PM

Long letter, short answer:

More criminal than Barabbas
Horned like the fallen angels
With Beelzebub you are down there
Fed on garbage and filth
We will not come to your Sabbaths . . .

Continued at

http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/2006/10/fear.html

Worth reading. There are more appropriate versions printed there that could not be reproduced in a family-oriented site such as Jihad Watch. Go to the address cited above and scroll down util you get to "IN PLACE OF CRINGING DHIMMITUDE . . . "

Beneath that heading, you will find the "Proposal Of Mehmet IV, Sultan of Constantinople" and the answer to that "The Answer of the Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Sultan of Constantinople."

If you have never read Apollinaire's version of that answer, you owe it to yourself to do so. It is the most fitting reply to an offer from a Moslem--whether to convert or become his dhimmi.

As I said before, more earthy versions of the reply follow Apollinaire's at the "Islamic Danger" site cited above.
http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/2006/10/fear.html

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 7:45 PM

I agree with every word of Archimedes2's post.

Posted by: EliasAlucard [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 8:03 PM

Well, as he has opened the door to discuss things, I want to know if he feels the term" Great Satan" still is in effect. How did he first hear this, and how did "Satan" become "Great"? Why do people who follow islam use the term "Great Satan"?

Call me..

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 9:38 PM

Dear Mr. 'Mighty Nut Job' Ahmadinejad:

No one in the United States is ever going to forgive Islam for the events of 9-11. You see, evil is as evil does.

Islam is the purest of evil on Earth and the darkest tragedy ever to envelop humanity. And we in America already know that the Earth is round and not flat as the Kuran asserts.

So forget it--we all see through Islam here.

And, please, feel free to drop dead anytime you like.

Sincerely,

Pythagoras

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 10:23 PM

Hey JWers...Hope all is well with all of you. Here's Dougie "Ibrahim" Hooper and his feeble attempt at legitimate debate. This laugh's on me.


http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=41670&theType=NB

Posted by: DCWatson [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 29, 2006 10:59 PM

ever-worsening pain and misery of the Palestinian people. Persistent aggressions by the Zionists are making life more and more difficult for the rightful owners of the land of Palestine. In broad day-light, in front of cameras and before the eyes of the world, they are bombarding innocent defenseless civilians, bulldozing houses, firing machine guns at students in the streets and alleys, and subjecting their families to endless grief.

No day goes by without a new crime.this is true new crimes against as a state of Israel and by a Hamas and Hezbollah who are the proxiesfor Iranthis is about the only true thing and I'm a nut job says in his letter to the US the only thing he fails to identify his brother criminals in Hamas and Hezbollah are killing Israeli citizens.

Palestinian mothers, just like Iranian and American mothers, love their children, and are painfully bereaved by the imprisonment, wounding and murder of their children. What mother wouldn't?
the answer is simple a Palestinian mother all you have to do is watch obsession and you'll see how Palestinian children are indoctrinated with the belief that that that jihad in a martyr's death is the highest thing they can do Allah. If you look at Palestinian textbooks in school you'll see how they are indoctrinated in the cult of hate, you say it can't happen it has the Palestinians a very good example from 1930 Germany and the Hitler youth movement. And we might remember that the mufti of Jerusalem and that time was a affirmed supporterof Hitler and his final solution of the Jewish people. And Yasser Arafat was a close relative of this man. Unfortunately are useful idiots will believe what I'd nut jobs says. I think are only reply to this should be an A-bomb on I'm a nut jobs presidential palace and are on Iran's will holy city in the decapitate the head of the snake before the snake finishes the nuclear fuel cycle needed to build a nuclear weapons. Because the entire Western world would be at risk because Iran has intermediate range ballistic missiles that can reach the United States and Europe. and given the Arab capacity for self-delusion he just might think having a half a dozen nukes will cause the West to surrender to Islam or take out the status of protected people, the Islam offers a Christians. Paying jizha a.k.a. protection money, historically the English tried this with the Danes and the danegald got to the point that England could not pay it. And Muslims historically and demanded and kept the amount of protection money they demanded the point that people converted to Islam rather than starving because they no longer could pay protection money and Muslim overlords. And the problem has beenand still is the Muslims believe the worldwide to Allah and they have a right to overrun and conquer kafer lands and people there only have the right to live as a protected imitated people paying protection moneya.k.a. jizha or convert to Islam and after reading on a nut jobs letter I feel that is basically what he is offering and personally I would say no thank you a much prefer living in a free society where I can speak my mind without being put in jail and tortured by the authorities in in the name of the fantasy Muslims call Allah.

Posted by: islamakapigeaters [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 12:02 AM

DCWatson,
Hooper got his a$$ handed to him.
Ha Ha Ha

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 12:04 AM

Ahmadinejad says, "It is possible to lead the world...drawing upon the teachings of the Divine Prophets." Only if he does away with Israel and converts the West to Islam.

The only thing Islam has in common with the Judeo-Christian faith is that we trace our roots back to Abraham. That is also where we separate. Islam does not have Judeo-Christian roots and it follows different prophets who declare different messages. Salvation is of the Jews and it is only through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Islam denies all this because Mohammed followed the way of his father, Ishmael, not the way of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus!

No one who knows anything about the Truth will be deceived by this man's smooth sounding words.

Posted by: Joe61 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 1:23 AM

Despite Iranian militias and other jihadis intent on destroying democracy, Iraq must come up to speed. Iraqis must prepare for change. Trust is essential. Failure will lead to the loss of relationships, opportunity, credibility, and wealth. Goals and strategies must be defined. The level of mutual interest must be assessed. Sunni and Shiite leaders must discuss, negotiate, and share decision-making. They can assimilate their cultures and earn credibility by establishing trust.

Posted by: SFOD [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 2:15 AM

He reminds me of the snake from the Jungle Book.
SSSSSSSLLLLLLLIIIIIIITTTTTHHHHHHHHEEEEEEERRRRRR.

Posted by: aladdinsane57 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 2:21 AM

Something a little less stiff from me this time, a letter I've penned for Dubya; I know he's a busy guy, so all he's got to do is sign it and attach a stamp.

Dear Mahmoud, thank you for writing again; it's nice to have an updated photo; that old one of you in the American Embassy was getting a little tired. Still having trouble with that razor, huh?

I've been pretty busy -- you know, putting out all those fires you and your islamist friends have been starting in the middle east, and now Africa, not to mention running the most powerful nation on earth.

Nevertheless, I occasionally get around to reading the fan mail I occasionally get from tin-pot dictators, and I must say you have demonstrated more unmitigated gall than most despots in your challenge for a little debate on ... what was it again?

Well, anyway, I never was terribly into that sort of thing, I'm more suited to running a large country and working on those little things like that justice and compassion you keep talking about, and in any case my schedule would not allow for such indulgence. So I hope you're not too put out if I have to turn you down on this one.

However, you sound rather enthusiastic about going one on one and, busy as I am I really do hate to let fellow world leaders down, even in such trifling matters. So if you really wish to have a debate, then you'll be happy to know that Wafa Sultan has agreed to take my place.

She's agreed to have the contest televised live on both Iranian and American national TV, so I can assure you that this will be a worthwhile investment of your time.

Have fun, and do let me know how it turns out; as they say: the world is watching.

Sincerely,

W

Posted by: Archimedes2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 2:31 AM

What on earth is CNN doing? Who are they working for? What do they want to achieve? They got such a letter and decided to read it to the public so that their hearts will melt or what?

Any way, no matter who they are working for, every bit of harassment and threat the letter shows increases our resolve to face islam and what it stands for. Every bit of that exposes islam's rhetorics and their insincerity.

Just look at the so called islamic nations, who in the world receives a lot of aids teh way islamic nations do? in fact some completely depend on aid. Which of them has a kind of govt that allows the people to be free? etc etc etc.I dont know where to start and where to stop. It's really a shame that some of them stand up to talk.

Posted by: Nwachinemere [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 2:48 AM

I recommend that in a demonstration of respect for the American people and for humanity, the right of Palestinians to live in their own homeland should be recognized
what right there never was Palestinian people it is an invention or the past 80 years or so by the Arab nations of the Middle East, the millions of refugeeswere created when the Arab nations of the Middle East told people that had been living in Israel a better leave or be killed by the Jews and kept as refugees by their Arab brothers for political reasonsand not one as loudly the refugee camps or become citizens of the countries they took refuge in body not even their children were born in Egypt Jordan Syria or other middle eastern countries for granted citizenship for being born there instead their Arab brothers told them says ther parents are refugeesthey were refugees also.
so that millions of Palestinian refugees can return to their homes
I'm a nut job would really love those you the millions of so-called Palestinians and overwhelmed the 6 million Jews in Israel and take over the country and turned into Islamic Republic identical to Iran
and the future of all of Palestine and its form of government be determined in a referendum.
a referendum and that are the world you would have a very large problem keeping it on honest.
This will benefit everyone.
the only ones who would benefit from this in reality, are Hamas and Hezbollah in their Masters in Iran and Syria. Israel got of the West Bank and even left fully intact a complete greenhouse structure for ripe fruit that could provided a ton of Palestinian jobs the day of the Jews left, the Palestinian people were in their tearing it apart to sell or whatever they get this scrap from the site. Their entire government is supported by payments other nations and they have no industry of their own and less you count making homemade rockets attack Israel with. A nut job and his country were allies of the Germans in World War II so we can see where he learned to live so well. But then Moslems are told that is quite a right to lie infidels, and ended peace treaty with infidels is only in effect until the world of Islam is able to defeat infidels. Muslim genocide was going on in India until the British beat back the forces of Islam and if we fall for I'm a nut jobs con job it would be very sorry is a man who is involved attack our embassy in the 70s as well the person in Iran who insists that the genocide of the Jews by Hitler never happened. This sounds very like another Muslim nation Turkey that denies they killed a ton of Armenians. It also looks like I'm a nut job sees him self as the head of a new Caliph with Iran its capital as the capital of a world dominated by Islam.

Posted by: islamakapigeaters [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 4:51 AM

Dear Mahmoud,
You are really uptight. When is the last time you got laid? Do us "Noble Americans" a favor and Go get those 72 VIRGINS!!!

Posted by: CarpeDiem [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 5:15 AM

TO ALL,

Never forget to go back and read history, study it and apply it.

You will note in countries Islam has taken over, one of the first things eliminated is the history and heritage of the conquered country.

Islam then proceeds to rewrite everthing so that future followers of Islam have nothing but a one sided view of history.

In Islam , if Mo did not say it or do it, then it did not happen.

We know better, don't we.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 7:44 AM

nariz, you forgot your meds again!

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 8:02 AM

Archimedes2-

Lunatic, Liar, or Lord...

Do you know who first penned the "trilemma" as it is referred to? Was it C.S Lewis?

Nice tie-in to Mr. A's thinly veiled call to dhimmitude.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 2:49 PM

All in all, looks like the vast majority (not just us Americans) can see right through the mOslem munchkins jabberwocky.

He failed in his attempts to take us for dhimmi-wits.

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 5:26 PM

Hey Mahmoud,

Before I even consider listening to your lunatic ravings there is a whole list of things you're going to have to do:

1. Jump off the Empire State in a paper sack.

2. Talk lovey dovey to a camel, and scare the humps off his back.

3. Get the queen of Englands golden shoes, put 'em on your feet and sing the blues.

4. Walk over to Iraq, and kiss every U.S. soldier on their bare butt.

5. Rub your butt with a wire brush, and squat in a bowl of gin.

6. Swallow a handful of razor blades.

7. Take a Phosgene shower.

8. Pre-heat your oven to 1200 degrees and climb in.

9. Pack sand. I hear you have access to a lot of it.

10. Martyr yourself instead of sending others to do your dirty work.

Who knew Hitler would be reincarnated so quickly.

Posted by: KoolAidKills [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 5:54 PM

As I read the letter, I could not believe how many of the things he is saying are things I hear every day from people in *this* country, even from people I know.

How can this go unnoticed by people? How can it not bother them? Perhaps I'll get up the courage to ask, without somehow making it sound like an accusation. I'm sure that's how it will be taken. But I just want to understand the rationale behind it.

Because it's nothing short of insane.

Posted by: Mo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2006 11:19 PM

Nooo, thanks Mackmoood, not interested in allah the wonder-god or his minor prophet of satan.

Posted by: pravoslavna [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2006 1:20 AM

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