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This is the sort of tortured thinking that leads some otherwise perfectly sane American analyists to maintain that if we all pretend that Islam is peaceful, it will make it so. After all, Bardakoglu is affirming the other side of this coin: speaking about what within Islam gives rise to violence will only "encourage those who perform wrong-doing on behalf of religion." Uh huh.
"Insulting Islam breeds violence - Turk religious chief," from Reuters, with thanks to Twostellas:
Turkey's top Muslim official repeated in the presence of Pope Benedict that Islam was not a religion of violence and that arguing so can only encourage those who abuse religion to do wrong.Ali Bardakoglu, who heads Ankara's Directorate General for Religious Affairs which controls Turkish imams and writes their sermons, said all Muslims were offended by accusations that their religion was violent.
"Such accusations and attempts can only serve to encourage those who perform wrong-doing on behalf of religion by way of exploitation," he said in a speech.
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"Such accusations and attempts can only serve to encourage those who perform wrong-doing on behalf of religion by way of exploitation," he said in a speech.
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Yes, saying that Islam is violent - forces those poor Muslims to be violent? Say what?
Posted by: Monkeywho
at November 30, 2006 8:13 AM
This has been making the rounds in email - i don't know who the author is.
In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America, He said:
"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in ... And how many want out."
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
at November 30, 2006 8:15 AM
Ban Muslim Immigration NOW!!
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at November 30, 2006 8:23 AM
Odd, I remember Bush saying “Islam means peace” but it didn’t work. Perhaps saying Abracadabra …
Posted by: JasonP
at November 30, 2006 8:24 AM
"Calling Islam violent makes Muslims act violently"
Ain't that an axiom.
Posted by: EliasAlucard
at November 30, 2006 8:25 AM
so saying islam is violent makes muslims act violent, and that same way of thinking there are those Democrats and muslim appologists saying Bush should of never said that Iran,Syria and N.Korea were axis of evil. you know if said nothing about those countries, they would be model countries right now, l wonder how many minds are warped to believe all this clap trap.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at November 30, 2006 8:29 AM
This is why we should not put criminals in jail, it only make them more criminal.
We shud reward criminals when they commit crimes that way they will quit doing criminal things.
Criminals are just like everyone else, except they commit crimes. Are they not fathers and mothers and fatherf@#$%ers and motherf#$%ers like the rest of us?
Am I correct or is my logic flawed?
Posted by: TheOmegaMan
at November 30, 2006 8:36 AM
Nice Muslims.
Good Muslims.
Happy Muslims.
Now I expect them to behave. Maybe we can change them with positive thinking. Come on everybody, think nice things about Muslims so they will be nice.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 8:37 AM
Oh, that explains everything. This is why the majority of muslims do not speak out against violence carried out in the name of their "religion" by the "few abusers" among them as they understand that this will cause more violence. This also explains why several US tax funded organizations wish to end Free Speech rights in whatever formums they can and silence any and all *words* of criticism... It will just lead to more violence.
And of course - those who perpetrate violent acts are not responsible - as someone made them act in such manner.
at November 30, 2006 8:38 AM
This is the typical muslim response to everything: Blaming the victim. Blaming the victim is always the first refuge of these scoundrels.
Posted by: Howard, Fine & Howard
at November 30, 2006 8:39 AM
More double-talk.
Funny, they say the same thing as abusive spouses & parents: "Look what you made me do."
Posted by: Josephine
at November 30, 2006 8:46 AM
This is the typical muslim response to everything: Blaming the victim. Blaming the victim is always the first refuge of these scoundrels.
Posted by: Howard, Fine & Howard at November 30, 2006 08:39 AM
I must dispute this. Don't you know it's the Muslims that are the victims? They are the victims of the following: oppression, Zionism, imperialism, racial discrimination, America, colonialism, neo-colonialism, post-neo-colonialism, more Zionism, misunderstanding, media distortions, lies, misconceptions,yet more Zionism, Western cultural hegemony, the end of the Caliphate, intolerance, and even more Zionism.
at November 30, 2006 8:53 AM
Islam needs a new slogan.
Islam: Peace Through Decapitation
Islam: No Dogs Allowed
Islam: No Girls Allowed
If pointing out the inherent violence in islam causes muslims to become violent then all the better. It is important for all people to continue to push the point made by Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Paleologus and quoted by Pope Benedict XVI.
Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.
The Byzantines were utterly destroyed by the enemy (muslims spreading islam) which illustrates the danger of the moment.
Posted by: mtriviso
at November 30, 2006 9:04 AM
ISLAMSFORLOSERS,
Excellent point. I stand corrected. To quote my namesakes, muslims are "victims of circumstance." They are victims of all the things you mention, but most of all, they are victims of their own culture.
Posted by: Howard, Fine & Howard
at November 30, 2006 9:05 AM
"... they are victims of their own culture".
Posted by: Howard, Fine & Howard at November 30, 2006 09:05 AM
Amen to that.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 9:09 AM
mtriviso-
Great slogan, but it needs one more point:
Islam: Positively no thinking allowed!
With Islam, you think, you ask questions, you die.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 9:14 AM
"Calling Islam violent makes Muslims act violently -- Turk religious chief"
No kidding!
You are: what you demonstrate by your actions and words.
Posted by: sounder
at November 30, 2006 9:16 AM
"Turkey's top Muslim official repeated in the presence of Pope Benedict that Islam was not a religion of violence and that arguing so can only encourage those who abuse religion to do wrong."
Islam can truly be a "religion of peace" when claiming that it is violent, or defaming its "prophet" is a crime - noone will be able to make
an accusation against it, or its "prophet" and get away with it.
http://www.kuna.net.kw/home/story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=927774
Kuwait adds issue of Prophet''s defamation to Islamic meeting agenda -- MP
POL-ISLAMIC-PARLIAMENT-MP
Kuwait adds issue of Prophet's defamation to Islamic meeting agenda -- MP
By Ahmed Al-Furaij (with photos) KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 30 (KUNA) -- The executive committee of the Parliamentary Union of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) has approved a Kuwaiti proposal of adding the question of defamation of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) to agenda of the next meeting of the federation, according to Kuwaiti MP Abdullah Akkash.
[...]
at November 30, 2006 9:20 AM
I don't see why calling Islam violent is such a big deal. It is-everyone knows that. In fact, Muslims always seem to enjoy gloating about the violence-Bin Laden with 9/11, palestinian suicide bombers and A-Nut's constant calls for the end of Israel being among the many examples of such gloating. These idiots take pride in their bloody work so how is calling it bloody wrong? It's no more wrong than calling snow white.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 9:32 AM
Re: "Insulting Islam breeds violence - Turk religious chief,"
Islam does not have thick skin.
Islam can't stand on two feet because unlike Christianity, there is no central authority in Islam.
Islam is caught in its own web of deceit and violence.
Posted by: Johnathan
at November 30, 2006 9:43 AM
mtriviso, this is my nomination for the new slogan:
Muhammad made me do it!
(channeling Flip Wilson)
at November 30, 2006 9:43 AM
ISLAMSFORLOSERS, you forgot muslims are victims of wiley women.
Posted by: freewoman
at November 30, 2006 9:58 AM
THE MYTH OF ISLAMIC TOLERANCE & PEACE
A myth about islam has been formed in the West during the past 100 years. Advocates of the myth have accepted islams own selfunderstanding of islam as a religion of peace without being aware of the fact, that islamic understanding is founded on the religious thesis, that islam can not make war.
When muslims use weapons it is always an action of peace in order to defend their religion, regardsles of the weapons being used for attack or defence. And it is being done in the service of Allah. It is only infidels who makes war.
This concept has determined all history of islam.
The islamic myth is very firmly fixed and aggressively defended against any objection.
(Ref. Bassam Tibi: Krieg der Zivilisationen, Munchen 1995, page 205).
at November 30, 2006 10:03 AM
Muhammad is the slave master and enemy of all Muslims. They only have a chance if they can break free of the brainwashing by the Mullahs and Imams
The Koran in an unholy book that 90% of Muslims know only through the filter of lying Imams. Their alleged perfect man was in fact a conscienceless killer, plunderer and murderer. Muhammad's remorselessnesses is emulated today by the Sunni Jihadists who mass murder Shi'ite in Iraq
Posted by: dennisw
at November 30, 2006 10:03 AM
Bardakoglu is your average muslim, always ready to lie to uninformed journalists.
See his latest interview for "Der Spiegel".
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,450598,00.html
One of his highlights:
SPIEGEL: What would make dialogue easier?
Bardakoglu: Mutual respect. We have a principle in Islam that requires us not to talk about another religion or a religious leader in an insulting way (...)
HAHAHAHA!
Btw: Interviewer Annette Grossbongardt used to be the Israel-correspondent for Spiegel. No surprise she swallowed his hogwash.
Posted by: buraq_is_dead
at November 30, 2006 10:08 AM
Does this explain the Armenian genocide ?
It is a misconception that dogs are not
allowed in Islam , they are...some learned to
walk upright and wear burquas.
at November 30, 2006 10:13 AM
Christiniaty has been called misogynist, violent, anti-semitic, and intolerant by critics from academia and elsewhere. No "moderate' Christian has ever claimed that calling Christianity misogynist, anti-semitic, and intolerant makes Christians become misogynist, antisemitic and intolerant.
Posted by: godfreyofbouillon
at November 30, 2006 10:15 AM
Let me ask a question: if calling Islam a violent religion leads to violence... why doesn't calling Islam the Religion of Peace (TM) lead to mutual respect between faiths or an atmosphere of cooperative tolerance and reciprocity?
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses
at November 30, 2006 10:56 AM
Radical Islam is evil, THAT'S why they're violent.
Posted by: champ
at November 30, 2006 11:28 AM
ISLAMSFORLOSERS, you forgot muslims are victims of wiley women.
Posted by: freewoman at November 30, 2006 09:58 AM
You're right! How could I have forgotten all that "meat", uncovered or otherwise????
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 11:28 AM
hmmmm...If they act violently if we say that they are violent, what will they do if we all suddenly say that Muslims are suicidal? Will they all begin blowing their brains out?
It couldn't hurt, and if they may actually respond favorably to it...
Posted by: yohannbiimu
at November 30, 2006 11:32 AM
France makes kissy face with Muslims all the time. Why are the Muslims there always rioting?
The quantity of stupid statements made by Muslims and their lapdogs simply astounds me. It's like staring into a bottomless pit.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 11:48 AM
Islam is the root, terrorism, oppression, and violence is the fruit.
Also what I have learned about Islam I had learned on 9/11/01.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at November 30, 2006 12:02 PM
Quick questions everybody:
Is it ass-backward or is it back-assward?
Are Muslims declared violent and then they become so?..or are they violent because they are?
Does Islam make you stupid or are you born stupid?
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Posted by: Quantum Infidel
at November 30, 2006 12:12 PM
Does Islam make you stupid or are you born stupid?
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Posted by: Quantum Infidel at November 30, 2006 12:12 PM
If you're a born Muslim, then you are indeed born stupid. If you convert to Islam that would make you retarded.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 12:37 PM
Thanks buraq_is_dead for the following gem:
"Islam that requires us not to talk about another religion or a religious leader in an insulting way (...)"
========
If this guy wasn't a lying MOFO he would have said the following:
"In Islam we don't just talk about other religions in an insulting way, we pray daily for the killing of their adherents. It's all in the pages of our Bible, the noble Koran."
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2
at November 30, 2006 1:02 PM
In Waltham Forest this week we have "Islam awareness week, where non-muslims will be able to discuss "the great things Islam has done for Britain" apparently. When muslims talk about how peacefull their religion is they truly believe it. They know that muslims around the world have committed more attrocities than any other group but the koran says they MUST act this way and so by their logic these attrocities are helping to promote Islam and can be nothing but peacefull. Sadly we are in the grip of a government that is happy to see it's own people die, it's MP's commit voting fraud and the imposition of sharia laws into our society. What we need is a FRANK discussion about Islam, but as usual we will not see any such thing. The first person to stand up and point out one of the many, many failing of islam will immediately be branded a "racist" or "islamophobic (a ridiculous word introduced by shariaists to stop the rightful questioning of the islamic "religion") and the conversation will end there.
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SHARIA.
at November 30, 2006 1:03 PM
In Waltham Forest this week we have "Islam awareness week, where non-muslims will be able to discuss "the great things Islam has done for Britain" apparently.
Posted by: DaveMate at November 30, 2006 01:03 PM
The week must have ended at about 2 minutes past 8AM on Monday then.
On the other hand, if the week discussed all the bad things Islam has done for Britain it would have to be extended by at least six months.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 1:16 PM
What a crock of Poo! There is NO excuse for terror! NONE! Cut the crap Islam! http://sacredscoop.com
Posted by: CottShop
at November 30, 2006 1:18 PM
I see that you can't help but proving that you are not only a blind ideologue but a moron as well Zena/Lulu.
Bush didn't call Iran, Syria, No. Korea.. an axis of evil, he called Iran, Iraq and No Korea an axis of evil.
Morons, ideologues like you have good company with that other group of moronic ideologues..the Muslims.
And while you are ranting at the Dhimmicrats your beloved Repugnicans are selling us down the drain for 30 pieces of silver (corporate profits and oil).
Look at Cheney, he was SUMMONED to Saudi Arabia..guess who da boss is you boob.
Posted by: Nariz
at November 30, 2006 1:54 PM
May I just ask what doesn't turn muslims violent?
Posted by: americaningermany at November 30, 2006 01:40 PM
A peaceful permanent slumber called death.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 1:56 PM
Hey, Boys and Girls
Shaheedinshallah wants to mix it up verbally (at least verbally) with Robert. So he posted this reply to Robert (http://inshallahshaheed.wordpress.com/):
"Robert, are you actually trying to threaten a Muslim? Are you trying to threaten a member of the Ummah of Muhammad (sallallahu ‘alayhe wassallam) with boys that fill their bellies with McDonalds and who have homosexual feelings for each other? Are you trying to threaten me with school girls – whom you call men - that are adulterers and drunkards?! Are you trying to threaten me with children that are the scum of the earth and who are slaves of their desires and worship the revelations of their Government?"
http://inshallahshaheed.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2
at November 30, 2006 1:58 PM
Notice that calling Muslims 'peaceful' doesn't make them peaceful and never has. So why would calling them violent have the effect of turning them violent all of a sudden? Muslims are NOT impervious to suggestion by non-Muslims. The Kuran tells them NOT to be anyway --and surely this is the case.
Muslims of course are violent to begin with--just as the Kuran calls upon them to be.
Muslims believe non-Muslims are stupid. Sometimes they are but not as often as they may have been led to believe.
Posted by: pythagoras
at November 30, 2006 2:04 PM
Shaheedinshallah was quite amusing on TV as Cornholio in "Beavis and Butthead". Now that he has a website he no longer is funny. He and his website need to be cancelled like the show he once appeared on.
What a total idiot.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at November 30, 2006 2:05 PM
Correction: I meant to say in the above post that Muslims are NOT 'vulnerable' to suggestions made to them by non-Muslims!
I had written "Muslims are NOT impervious to suggestions made by non-Muslims" --which was NOT what I meant to say.
There's a bit of a difference.
Sorry for the goof.
Posted by: pythagoras
at November 30, 2006 2:08 PM
Wow these really are messed up people--these islam followers eh?---sooo if I call them violent they will PROVE they arent violent by BEING violent.
mass malignent narciccissm I tell ya'. Wheres a psych specialist on here to explain it to us?!
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN
at November 30, 2006 2:14 PM
Calling Islam violent makes Muslims act violently
Ali Bardakoglu seems to be admitting that Muslims act violently. Of course he's blaming non-Muslims for "making" the Muslims become violent, but he is admitting that Muslims are violent. Which, given any reasonable look at the statistics, is a verifiable and demonstrable fact. And which, given any reasonable amount of common sense, should have consequences for our policies and strategies.
Posted by: special_guest
at November 30, 2006 2:35 PM
"Calling Moslems violent will cause them to be violent"
Hmmm. Let's see. If I recall from my undergraduate philosophy courses, the obverse of that statement should be:
"Not-calling Moslems violent will cause them to be non-violent"
Hmmm. Still doesn't seem right. It looks like I've forgotten everything I've ever learned about logic.
Posted by: Chatillon
at November 30, 2006 2:56 PM
@Ynkedoodl2
Thanks for the link. That reply really reinforced for me that Islam is the religion of peace. I wonder if the author knows that in Islam, not all of the virgins that the Islam warrior gets are female. Also, here in Germany, I've seen quite a few Turks in McDonalds.
We need to declare the treasonous speech in the mosques in the west as treason and take the Imams out and arrest them, try them and then execute them. I would recommend the arrest be carried out in the mosque with a large number of police dogs. I'd recommend police pigs, but I don't think there are any. As an execution method, I'd recommend death by being eaten by hungry pigs. I'm sure that would be considered as cruel and unusual punishment by the Supreme Court, but what the heck, I think dying by airplane into my workplace is also cruel and unusual.
Schwaben
Posted by: schwaben
at November 30, 2006 3:42 PM
nariz is Clearly Off His Meds. Way to cheer up the jihadists, nari!
Posted by: Gary
at November 30, 2006 4:40 PM
His drivel cracks me up...
Next I suppose he's going to say flies cause garbage.
at November 30, 2006 5:20 PM
Here is a comment I left on that Shaheedinshallah character's blog:
“Christianity is false and has become a man-made religion through its changing of the Bible…”
Sorry if this is a question you have answered repeatedly, but what exactly has been changed in the Bible which has caused it to become “man-made?” Also, what in the Quran is undeniably true, apart from what it SAYS is true? (e.i. Allah is god, Muhammad is his last and greatest prophet, other religious teachings that Muhammad instituted long after Christianity began.)
Anyone can say that something is true because it SAYS that it’s true, but what can be pointed to in an objective way to show that Islam is the true way to god? Also, I’d love to know from you about how our Bible has become “changed” in that it is now corrupted any more than the Quran HAS been a corrupt document ever since it’s been instituted as something “holy” by your so-called “prophet” (a prophet who never actually prophesied about anything).
Posted by: yohannbiimu
at November 30, 2006 5:42 PM
Nariz --
The only thing that seems to matter to you at all is the Democratic Party, so I'm puzzled as to why you bother posting your obnoxious comments here on Jihad Watch.
Not sure what a troll like you gets out of fighting those you should be supporting who are also against radical Islam -- those who are on your side.
You keep advocating 'tolerance', but all you do is dish out an extreme LACK of tolerance. Maybe there's a forum you could start that better suites your need to fight with people. You could call it RepublicanChristianMoron Watch.
Posted by: champ
at November 30, 2006 6:12 PM
Not surprisingly, Shaheedinshallah removed my post on his blog. Apparently, as the Quran does, he assumes that because he says it, it is undeniable fact, and that any who questions it is an infidel.
I LOVE being an infidel who questions these all-knowing Muslim morons. I'd rather be a lowly Quran-questioning infidel than a oil-drenched Arab shiek.
Posted by: yohannbiimu
at November 30, 2006 6:33 PM
Folks in the media got it all wrong. It is a minority of muslims who are peaceful.
Posted by: callmeinfidel
at November 30, 2006 6:49 PM
It is a misconception that dogs are not
allowed in Islam , they are...some learned to
walk upright and wear burquas.
Posted by: aladdinsane57
First let me say, I love your name.
But please......don't insult dogs !
at November 30, 2006 9:37 PM
With apologies, a bit of doggerel:
“Islam is a peaceful religion.”
They’ll tell you that straight to you face.
And they’ll swear that it’s true,
Unless, of course, you
Aren’t a Muslim, then it’s not the case.
Sunnis, they all hate the Shiah.
The Shiah hate Sunnis as well.
But there’s no debating,
When it comes to hating,
They both hate the damned "Infidel".
Just who is an "Infidel", really?
It’s you and your kids and your mom.
If you’ve an aversion
To enforced conversion
You’re targets to “peaceful Islam”.
“Islam is a peaceful religion.”
We hear it all night on TV.
Each time that it’s said
We can count on more dead,
Who are peaceful as peaceful can be.
“Death!” cries the “peaceful religion”.
They shout it ‘til they’re out of breath.
“Death to the Jew!”
"Death to the Hindu!”
And “Death to America! Death!”
“It’s just a small group of fanatics.”
We’re told after each new assault.
“Ignore those who rant.
“Heed not those who chant.
And, besides, it’s America’s fault.”
“Islam is a peaceful religion.”
With hypnotic rhetoric they
Continue to gull us,
To soothe and to lull us
Until that “most glorious day”
When Islam, the “peaceful religion”
Has forced the free world to its knees
And the masks they now wear
From their faces they tear
And we see the true face of disease.
“Islam is a peaceful religion.”?
How long must we live with this lie?
It’s time for the Free
To rise up and decree:
“Our Liberty shall never die!”
We must tell this “peaceful religion”
Our tolerance is at an end.
We’ve been patient and kind
But you’re going to find
We won’t break just because we can bend.
Know this, Oh “peaceful religion”
And know it without any doubt.
Though we try to be fair,
You don’t want to be there
When our patience and kindness run out.
Very sincerely yours,
USBeast
at November 30, 2006 11:15 PM
to THE ALLIES SHALL WIN:
Did you ever see my explanation of how to make an economical-looking link?
at November 30, 2006 11:18 PM
I've heard that Muslims consider doggerel unclean.
Posted by: jsla
at November 30, 2006 11:40 PM
Interesting NY Sun article on Turkey and the Pope today. A couple of excerpts:
If, as Mr. Bardakoglu also lectured the pope, it is "Islamophobic" to say that Islam "was spread over the world by the sword," why is it that almost all the major conflicts in the world today occur on the fault lines between Islam and other faiths? Even in Turkey, the most secular of Muslim countries, persecution has reduced the proportion of non-Muslims in the population from a majority in Byzantine times to less than 1% today. It is still a crime in Turkey to refer to the Armenian genocide. And it is still dangerous to be an observant Christian or Jew. Synagogues in Istanbul were attacked by Islamist terrorists in 1985 and 2003, killing scores and wounding hundreds of Turkey's tiny Jewish minority.
[...](my emphasis) So the Pope is not for Turkey to come into the E.U. then?
Mr. Erdogan just could not resist ambushing the man who was supposedly his guest. After their private audience, Mr. Erdogan emerged to wow the waiting press by claiming that the pope had dropped his opposition to Turkish membership of the European Union. Mr. Erdogan then flew off to the NATO summit in Riga, leaving embarrassed Vatican officials to issue denials.
[...]
Mr. Erdogan and his ruling party are Islamists, dedicated to tearing down the wall that Ataturk erected to separate religion and politics. It is no accident that Mr. Erdogan refused to allow his country to be used by American forces against Saddam Hussein and still refuses to support Iraqi democracy.
On a visit to Oxford a few years ago, Mr. Erdogan took questions from the press. I asked him what he thought was meant when he was described as a "moderate Islamist," which seemed to me an oxymoron. The prime minister chose to interpret this as a question about Islam, rather than Islamism — apparently he does not recognize a distinction between religious and political Islam. "Moderate Islam," he said, did not exist, except in the minds of ignorant people in the West. Islam was one and indivisible. To divide Muslims into "moderates" and "extremists" was itself Islamophobic.
at November 30, 2006 11:49 PM
So, who told them they were violent the first 1400 years?
Persistent, pervasive behavior.
at November 30, 2006 11:56 PM
USBeast:
Good poem. You should consider getting it published at Ali Sina's site, www.news.faithfreedom.org. Below are a couple of paragraphs from the site that are relevant to publication there. They refer to writing articles, but the site might well be happy to publish your poem, too:
Before submitting your article for consideration, you must become a member of this site. It's easy, and it only takes a minute or two. There is a link below the login box for signing up. Remember that the name you choose for your membership here will be the name that appears on the "by-line" of your articles, so choose your name carefully. We expect most authors will select a pseudonym, or "pen name", rather than using their real names.
Once you've become a member, send your article to ffieditors at yahoo dot com. In the subject line of your email write "submission for publication". In the content of your email be sure to mention the name of your user account on this site. The editors will review your article. If they like your article, then they will enable authoring privileges on your account.Posted by: traeh
at December 1, 2006 12:12 AM
mtriviso wrote:
Islam needs a new slogan.
How about:
Islam: We're only violent cause you say we are.
Not only is this a play out of the Religion of Peace playbook...it's also a play out of the DNC playbook - if accused, turn situation around and claim to be the victim and lash out at those attacking you.
at December 1, 2006 7:26 AM
american in germany wrote:
Calling Islam violent makes Muslims act violently -- Turk religious chief
May I just ask what doesn't turn muslims violent?
How bout:
Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few of my favorite things
Cream colored ponies and crisp apple streudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favorite things
Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
Silver white winters that melt into springs
These are a few of my favorite things
at December 1, 2006 7:30 AM
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