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"...given the predictable collapse sometime in the future, of that famous 'peace accord' recently 'achieved' for the southern Sudan (one which will last just as long as the government in Khartoum thinks the West is paying close attention and not a minute longer)..." -- Hugh Fitzgerald, November 30, 2006
From Reuters, with thanks to Twostellas:
KHARTOUM, Sudan, Nov. 30 -- Hundreds of people may have been killed in the heaviest fighting between Sudan's former north-south foes since they signed a peace deal last year, a former senior rebel officer said Thursday.Terrified civilians in the southern town of Malakal reported looting and bodies in the streets after three days of clashes, and U.N. officials in New York said 240 civilian workers had been temporarily evacuated.
"More than hundreds have been lost. The Sudan army sustained very heavy casualties, and civilians were caught in the crossfire," said Elias Waya Nyipuocs, a former senior officer in the Sudan People's Liberation Army, a rebel group that fought the government in a long civil war.
Nyipuocs said a militia allied with the Sudanese armed forces attacked the SPLA and the local commissioner of Malakal. The militiamen then took refuge in military barracks near the airport and full combat began. Nyipuocs said the armed forces fought "side by side" with the militia against the SPLA.
Posted by Robert at November 30, 2006 11:55 PM
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How long will it be before the genocide is completed? It will be long celebrated by Illah's minions as yet another glorious victory.
Shame on the world.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at December 1, 2006 12:12 AM
Gee...what a shock.
Of course, the islamic fascists will blame the christians for starting it, as they always to, which is a laugh. Attacking someone 100 times your size isn't wise given the limited resources the christians in the south have, and makes no sense.
(note- keep in mind, this is one area many get confused with "darfur". wrong...the south is christian, darfur is moslem- yes, as in moslem vs. moslem fighting in darfur...that's in the western area of sudan, not the south)
Too early to tell, just making a prediction that seems to come true almost every time...but it's no shock and was a matter of time...after all, China has oil interests there, pumping loot into sudans economy, and the christians are in the way.
Let's see where this one goes (as if)...
Posted by: jcom972
at December 1, 2006 12:19 AM
And to think Muhammad was supposed to be the last prophet. But now comes Fitzgerald! Who is whispering in his ear, a day before the event?
Posted by: traeh
at December 1, 2006 12:28 AM
I doubt it was Allah whispering, unless he's become remorseful.
Posted by: traeh
at December 1, 2006 12:30 AM
Actually, Robert, that remark about what should have been obvious about the so-called "Peace Treaty" between the government of the Sudan and the non-Muslim southerners in the south was posted here not only today, but earlier, on June 7, 2005; it came in handy today, again, as part of a weave of words. Thrifty, I like to re-cycle phrases or even paragraphs if what I wrote in the past does not date, may have been overlooked or forgotten, and can be woven into a larger fabric and contribute to it. Think of it as a variant on How to Sew An American Quilt. Since I have not (save possibly in the Armanious case) felt it necesary to retract a thing I have written, or predicted, or analyzed, I have a lot to use, and when I remember something that is apposite, I sometimes dig it out again.
But the prediction you kindly note above was not only posted today, as I said, but rather 18 months ago, at a much different time, it was felt, in the Sudan, when everyone was taking great pleasure in, and congratulating themselves upon, the supposed great triumph of the peace treaty, hard-won and hammered-out with such difficulty, made between the government of the Sudan and the southerners. Of course it would not last. It could not possibly. There should have been no surprise at all. But of course everything that comes out of the Muslim world -- for example, the behavior of Egypt in failing to observe any of its solemn commitments under the "peace tretay" it signed with Israel (this appears to be another source of changes of mind, but the whole predictable farce should have been seen as such on the very day of the smiling signing, with those villains Carter(whose latest book makes clear he was a shill for the Arabs all along, and most of all, during those Camp David Accord negotiations) and the palpably unsympathetic-to-Israel Brzezinski, and that sentimentalist, the so-eager-to-be-liked Begin, and Sadat at the end pulling all the chips in the center of the poker table right over to himself, inwardly unable to quite believe his luck) should have been clear from the get-go, from the day of the signing of those farcically composed accords, that farcical treaty.
And the same is true for whatever the Muslim Arabs of the government of Sudan sign, either with the non-Muslims of the south, or with the non-Arab Muslims of Darfur. Treaty of Al-Hudaibiyya. That is all one needs to know, that and the tenets, atttitudes, atmospheris of Islam and of Arab Muslims.
End of story. There is nothing new about this, under the sun or for that matter under the moon to which we now must say goodnight moon, and goodnight surprises, everywhere.
I am keeping tabs, M'lud, on my own and on others's analyses and predictions: about Iraq, about Iran, about Sudan, about all kinds of things. There are many reasons for this. It is particularly important when so many pretend that all along they had "predicted" this or "stated" that and when you actually go back and look, it turns out that so-called "prediction" was never really made, or made with such hedging about or in such vague terms, or then retracted later, as to amount to no real taking of a position at all. And since the ability of those involved to make sense of things, and not to be surprised, is part of what is used in competitive campaigns for financial support, I don't intend to let any of this slip from my basilisk gaze, nor should you.
So, possibly, you might consider adding that earlier date in the note above. Or if you prefer, M'lud, I can merely leave it in this posting. D'accord?
Posted by: Hugh
at December 1, 2006 1:01 AM
Hugh is an Islamophobe because he is a rational man. It is a compliment to be termed an Islamophobe. Folks, if sombody calls you an Islamophobe be sure to show your gratitude and say, "thank you".
Meanwhile the consequences of Jihad mental illness continue to cause the Africans in Darfur to suffer...
http://www.savedarfur.org/pages/report_from_chad
Posted by: Frank
at December 1, 2006 6:18 AM
We can find out if oil is the root of all the violence. Instead of trying to kill those who are designated as "terrorists, insurgents, jinjaweed, asians, state funded terrorists, rebels, Islamic fanatics or radicals, or any other term you wish to use for a murderer", let us simply vaporized the oil wells and see what transpires.
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at December 1, 2006 7:28 AM
http://www.savedarfur.org/pages/report_from_chad
I just signed a petition from this site mentioned above. We-slam
Thank you so much for urging President Bush and UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan to take immediate steps to stop the killing in Darfur.
Will you please help us spread the word about this crisis?
Fill out the fields below to send a message to your friends and family urging them to join you in helping to end the genocide and prevent any further killing, rape, or displacement in Darfur.
Spread the Word!
at December 1, 2006 7:34 AM
We can find out if oil is the root of all the violence. Instead of trying to kill those who are designated as "terrorists, insurgents, jinjaweed, asians, state funded terrorists, rebels, Islamic fanatics or radicals, or any other term you wish to use for a murderer", let us simply vaporized the oil wells and see what transpires.
Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2006 07:28 AM
What has the oil brought to mankind?
I see only destruction by and through it.
It was and is truly no blessing considering the damage it causes by using it.
at December 1, 2006 7:40 AM
Here is some information that may not be news to many here but I gathered it in a larger report I wrote in January of this year about the Sudanese famine of 1998.
About three-quarters of the northern population are Sunni Muslims and sharia law has been in effect since 1983 (Almquist) About 1/6 of the southern population is animist, believing that they are partly a spirit which is separate from their bodies. The rest are mostly Roman Catholic.
The “Civil Wars” in Sudan are primarily between the north and south and started as early as 1955 (Almquist). They are referred to as civil wars but we must keep something in mind, most of the civilians killed as a result of the conflict are from the poorer regions of southern Sudan. In other words the wars are very one sided. In the last eighteen years, approximately two million black Sudanese Christians and animists have been murdered at the hands of an Arab/Muslim jihadist regime (Margolies).
Raids were executed on hundreds of black villages where the men were murdered and the women and children taken as chattel slaves (currently as many as 40k according to some estimates) Significantly outgunned by an oil-rich NIF army, various black Sudanese factions had organized and armed themselves as best they could to defend themselves (Margolies).
The oil should’ve been a welcome resource to a poverty-stricken country but instead became a source of suffering for those villages nearest the oil fields. The GoS established a “scorched Earth” policy in order to clear land near oil pipelines to protect precious oil fields, by destroying villages and agriculture, and forcing the inhabitants to flee (Almquist). In response, the rebels attacked and sabotaged the oil rigs wherever they could which resulted in more air strikes from the GoS.
As other countries such as China came to the table, deals hinged on promised production which depended on worker and rig security (Almquist). Since oil began flowing, a once weak and demoralized government army had become one of the best equipped in Africa.
During the famine of 1998, one of the southern tribes, the Nuba, were rounded up into “peace camps” (and abused), others fled the country altogether. It did not matter where they fled to; the GoS just wanted them gone, enslaved, or dead (Almquist).
President Bashir very nearly became the president of the African Union but withdrew his bid after a hail of disapprovals from other African nation leaders. He would have been in charge of peacekeepers within Sudan had he become the AU president. Another famine looms for Sudan unless something is done to stop the blood-for-oil policies of the GoS (Margolies).
Aid blockades, scorched earth tactics, blood for oil, utilizing famine as a weapon…
Unless they are a north Sudanese muslim, they are in the way and like jcom pointed out, China needs its oil regardless of the human cost. Any attempt at a peace offering by the north is quite assuredly a ploy.
The southern Sudanese non-muslims are occupiers of land holding the oil pre-sold by the GoS. This may one day be the fate of the Kurds in northern Iraq as well.
-XRDC
Almquist, K. (1999). World Vision, Policy Papers Issue No. 3, Sudan: The Continuing Costs of War, retrieved January 22, 2006 from http://domino-201.worldvision.org/worldvision/imagelib.nsf/main/sudanpaper.pdf/$file/sudanpaper.pdf
Margolies, M. (2004). Frontpagemag.com, The West Wing: Lies About Sudan, retrieved January 24, 2006 from http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12422
Posted by: XRDC
at December 1, 2006 11:01 AM
it seems to me that it would be better to pull our forces out of Iraq and them to the sedan we will be more to fight the forces of radical Islam by helping the Christians that are under siege in the sedan I'm starting to think the major regions we are in Iraq is because it has oil and the president in Texas oilman.
Posted by: islamakapigeaters
at December 1, 2006 1:31 PM
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