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December 4, 2006

Muslims move to disrupt Brigitte Gabriel's appearance in Detroit today

Brigitte Gabriel, the courageous and insightful author of Because They Hate, is scheduled to speak at the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor this evening.

However, emails have gone out to Muslim students urging "all Muslim brothers and sisters to do what they need to do to disrupt this event." One email said: "Muslims, Arabs, and their friends and allies should give Gabriel a proper welcome."

Congressman Tom Tancredo was attacked, and his speech disrupted, last week at Michigan State University Law School. And of course, there was the notorious disruption of Jim Gilchrist's talk, and the subsequent closing-off of Walid Shoebat's, at Columbia recently. It is all part of the larger pattern of trying to silence and discredit through personal attacks anyone who dares speak up too strongly against the jihad and in defense of Western civilization.

Brigitte Gabriel has asked for special help tonight. If you are in the University of Michigan area, especially if you are in law enforcement, please attend Brigitte's talk and let these thugs know that they can't get away with their strongarm tactics in America.

Posted by Robert at December 4, 2006 8:09 AM
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The same tactics were applied by the Nazis before they were in charge.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:26 AM

It makes me wish I were in Michigan to try and assist...I hope and pray for this woman's safety...It's fairly obvious that some out there just can't handle the truth, so how do they handle it???...Threats and intimidation....Yes, ladies and gents, the religion of peace...Believe it, or else!!......

Posted by: Oiznop [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:33 AM

." One email said: "Muslims, Arabs, and their friends and allies should give Gabriel a proper welcome."

Ahhh yes, the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor, I know thee well -- feminist NAZI capital of the Midwest.

Now the islamic threats to free speech!

How odd, a campus so filled with hatred for white males would allow a female to be threatened by a band of islamic goons who want to keep all their women under the boot so to speak -- and in burkas.

How funny! First "Women's studies;" then "Women's issues;" now the burka and the vail for you leftist witches! The immams have got you "tailed hooked" at last!

Yet, how tragically ironic you progressive, feminist idiots!

Perhaps Gabriel should deliver her message elsewhere; it will be heard by other audiences anyway.

And you *itches can study your "women's issues" in the lecture hall of the coming on campus mosque; and take your notes for the quran directly from the sura named "women."

You will finally learn exactly what you have coming to you!


Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:35 AM

This Michigander wishes he could respond and show up in support.
Unfortunately, I work afternoon shift and can't make it.
I hope more and more of us will wake up to this insidious side of Jihad and do our part to fight it.

Posted by: HawkWatcher [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:40 AM

PLEASE SEE THIS SITE....

http://usawakeup.org/

WAKE UP AMERICA!! PASS IT ON TO ALL.
THE WORD MUST GET OUT
ALSO A NOTE ABOUT BRIGETTE GABRIELLE. SHE WAS ABLE TO GET BODY GUARDS AND K-9 DOGS FOR TONIGHTS LECTURE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MICH.
ALL YOU CAN GO TO SUPPORT HER PLEASE GO!!

THE MUSLIMS, HEZBOLLAH FRIENDS WILL BE ATTEMPTING TO STOP HER APPEARANCE..

Posted by: terise [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:41 AM

"Congressman Tom Tancredo was attacked, and his speech disrupted, last week at Michigan State University Law School. And of course, there was the notorious disruption of Jim Gilchrist's talk, and the subsequent closing-off of Walid Shoebat's, at Columbia recently. It is all part of the larger pattern of trying to silence and discredit through personal attacks anyone who dares speak up too strongly against the jihad and in defense of Western civilization."

--

Yes, these are all examples of the continuing problem with the "tiny minority of extremists" in the Muslim world. Even the "enlightened" Muslims on college campuses seem to be overrun by their "extremist" elements. What are the odds?

*coughs loudly*

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:50 AM

I am a magna cum laude graduate of the University of Michigan - Ann Arbor and I am absolutely appalled and ashamed of my one time alma mater. How can a former bastion of light and learning become a haven for hateful and ignorant Islamic goons and sympathizers? The brilliant Ms. Gabriele offers the light of insightful knowledge born of painful experience and is instead confronted by the forces of darkness and utter barbarism. I am sickened by it all!! The very least I can do in meager protest is to buy her book ‘Because They Hate’ which I have just done.

Posted by: descendantofacrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:54 AM

As the chorus is raised by our anti-Dhimmi leaders, pressure is put on the Moslems. They need to do a murder to obtain silence, but there is risk in that. The Dutch are still talking about Theo.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:55 AM

Ah, yes. What hypocrisy. Any disruption of Muslim speech or freedom of movement is called religious profiling, bigotry, and "speaking while Muslim," etc.

I hope that the university has learned from past experience and will provide appropriate security.

Posted by: Eleanor [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:57 AM

Strategically, does it make good sense for them to speak in Michigan?

While I respect all of these speakers, I would suggest a different strategy and would no more advise such talks in Michigan, any more than I would advise them to go to such "hot spots" as:
-- Columbia University in NYC
-- Berkeley University in CA
-- Falls Church, VA in DC area
-- etc.

Given the millions of Americans in denial across the nation, isn't the best use of their energy to reach some of those people in less confrontational areas first, before going to such "hot spots", like Michigan, Columbia U, etc.?

There is still a very large portion of the nation that is uneducated, in denial, and totally unaware of the threats looming over USA.


Posted by: jeffreyimm [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:57 AM

Proof positive that Islam and democracy are incompatible-both in the world in general and in the West in particular.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:00 AM

What a surprise!, put all their energy into disruptions instead of rising up against islamic extremeism!

Posted by: sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:03 AM

some videos from her speech at "The Heritage Foundation" ??? 1-7

http://civoc.com/society/?p=8#more-8

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:08 AM

If I was in Michigan - indeed if I was even in the same continent I would make my way over to the 'ol uni and give our arab and muslim friends a proper Glsagow welcome - anyone who can should go!

Posted by: johnmac [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:14 AM

What a surprise!, put all their energy into disruptions instead of rising up against islamic extremeism!

Posted by: sounder at December 4, 2006 09:03 AM

Boy, isn't that the truth. The apologists always claim "Islam is hijacked" but you never see these idiots try to free that "prisoner".Instead, they try to imprison the rest of the world with even more of that "prisoner". And yet Islam considers hypocrisy such a sin. Ha!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:20 AM

"because they hate" by Brigitte Gabriel. I'm half way through it and twice I had to put it down to shed a tear.
If those bastards hurt her I'll hate iSlam more than I already do, if that's at all possible...

Posted by: eloivsdiablo [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:28 AM

One email said: "Muslims, Arabs, and their friends and allies should give Gabriel a proper welcome."

When they give her the "proper welcome" and are then
thought of as terrorists, islamists, radicals etc,
they can complain to the Equal Opportunity body, and
have consultations about how to overcome
"discrimination" and "vilification". as at Sydney
University...

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/racial_discrimination/isma/consultations/meetings/9oct03.html

Consultation with Sydney University students, 9 October 2003

[...]
1. What are your experiences of discrimination and vilification?

Posted by: Xaragma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:32 AM

News from the UK:

Less Christianity, more Islam and Hinduism, schools ordered

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:33 AM

Some people wonder why many here hate Islam(some more than others)? This is why-in America one should be able to speak without be shouted down by a bunch of maniacs-especially if the speaker is telling the truth. Nowadays, the only speech that's free here is the kind that's anti-West, anti-Israel, anti-Christian and pro-Islam. And who is doing all of this? Islamania and its lapdogs. Now why would anyone want to hate such a fine crowd when they stomp on freedom like that?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:40 AM

The kind lady writes a book, Because They Hate, and they show up to protest her… because they hate. What are they waiting for, teachers to start being set on fire, ala Thailand? The guvment has allowed the new brownshirts into our country, thanks a lot you absolute traitors to the people. Opps, there’s that word again.

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:41 AM

This looks like a job for the Flying Imams!

Our motto: We Fly .. You Die!

Posted by: TheOmegaMan [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:41 AM

ummahnewslinks, Christianity is going downhill in Europe.

Posted by: EliasAlucard [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:42 AM

I don't live in Michigan, but perhaps we could all contact the conservative Christian groups or churches in the area to show en masse and support Gabriel. I just fired off emails to several Arab Christian groups in the Dearborn area.

http://americancongressfortruth.com/

Posted by: Rafa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 9:53 AM

I think that along with DhimmiWatch and JihadWatch we should have MultiCulturalismWatch. It is the dogmas of Multiculturalism that labels critical judgement of the supremacist dogmas of Islam as bigotry that enables this storm trooper behavior.

Make no mistake of it, these Muslims are no different than the Nazi stormtroopers. Islam does share much in common with the Nazi-supremacist beliefs.

Note to Armstrong-Esposito: if you don't like my comparing Islam to Nazism-that's tough. Your half-truth that tells whole lies "education" is similar to Muslim stormtrooper behavior in its impact on critical thinking and footbinds the use of God's gift of reason to all mankind.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 10:07 AM

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/racial_discrimination/isma/consultations/meetings/9oct03.html

Consultation with Sydney University students, 9 October 2003

[...]
1. What are your experiences of discrimination and vilification?

Posted by: Xaragma

What a WASTE of Aussie taxpayers' money! Just look at the arcticle Hugh just released re. the Wahhabization of Niger. THAT is something our guvments should be spending some money on!

Yes it is hard to understand indeed..

Posted by: germaninamerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 10:08 AM

JeffreyImm stated:

Strategically, does it make good sense for them to speak in Michigan?

While I respect all of these speakers, I would suggest a different strategy and would no more advise such talks in Michigan, any more than I would advise them to go to such "hot spots" as:
-- Columbia University in NYC
-- Berkeley University in CA
-- Falls Church, VA in DC area
-- etc.

Given the millions of Americans in denial across the nation, isn't the best use of their energy to reach some of those people in less confrontational areas first, before going to such "hot spots", like Michigan, Columbia U, etc.?

There is still a very large portion of the nation that is uneducated, in denial, and totally unaware of the threats looming over USA.

I am quite surprised to read those words coming from you. . .and respectfully disagree. Unless the United States is prepared to accept a folly similar to that of France with their 200+ No Go Zones, WE MUST STAND OUR GROUND.

Posted by: justamomof4 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 10:24 AM

I sent an eMail to their Women's Studies Dept. I hope they understand that this is a feminist issue.

Posted by: freedomschool [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 10:34 AM

To any attendees: keep an eye open for the half-wit who posts here and elsewhere as "Matoko Kusanagi"

Posted by: del [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 10:37 AM

The Muslim Stormtroopers are enabled by the multicultural stealth-supremacist-dogma (Saudi Arabia must be an inferior place under such a dogma)that labels critical thinking and any confronting of the supremacist dogmas of the Islamic-belief-system as "bigotry". It tells us to be blind to what we see in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the Muslim world. Multicultural-supremacist-dogma is as dangerous as Nazism or Islamic jihad in suppressing critical thinking and the free mind.

These Muslim Stormtroopers are no different than the Nazi Stormtroopers and Multicultural-dogma is the reason we are crippled by political correctness and don't see this. The Muslim stormtroopers should be advised by the University that they will be arrested for any Storm trooper behavior. The multicultural-stealth-supremacist-dogmas that have been been peddled for years are the foundation of this blindness and will destroy the Universities if not challenged.

All culture-belief-systems have supremacist notions and the Muslim stormtroopers are acting out of their supremacist dogmas. They want no critical thinking and no criticism of their dogmas. They are similar to the Nazis and Nazi Stormtroopers in that and that is the truth.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:02 AM

WISH I COULD BE THERE


Oh, how I wish I were a student at UM! I would love to be there for that speech and not let these Islamic thugs strong arm this lady "because they hate" her and her honest message!!!!

Posted by: Tookson [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:06 AM

The Pope says Islam is violent and they object by acting violently...

Bridget Gabriel says Muslims are full of hate and they object by making her the object of their hatred...

Perhaps we should thank them for always proving our point!

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:18 AM

JihadWatch has caused me to give a lot of thought to the nature of belief-systems and to the nature of culture. I have come to the conclusion that all cultures have supremacist assumptions and that we learn from them by critically evaluating the supremacist doctrines (Islam, e.g.) of cultures. Some supremacist doctrines are valid, some are so-so, and some are deadly to critical thinking and the free mind. The "mosaic" nonsense of multiculturalism is madrassa style foot binding for the mind. The doctrine ultimately makes reason meaningless as it tells us not to make judgements re what is good or bad because all that is relative. Truth-fact is not relative.

Nazi Stormtroopers, Muslim Stormtroopers and Multiculturalism is lethal to critical thinking and an examination of the supremacist doctrines of Islamic culture (and any culture). Islam-uber-alles is very similar to Nazi supremacist beliefs. That's bad.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:20 AM

I have come to the conclusion that multiculturalism is a kind of nihilism similar to the good-bad-relativism of the Wiemar period in Germany in the 1920's. It is an attack on the Enlightenment judgement of good and bad based on reason and will ultimately open the door to Nazi style stormtroopers and Muslim stormtroopers if we don't start using our heads.

Fortunately, a lot of Americans have the "I'm from Missouri" attitude and are not taken in by these moral equivalency peddlers. That's what will save us.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:31 AM

americaningermany-

You bet. Fortunately, there are a lot Americans like you who arn't afraid to raise questions because they see reality very clearly. These Muslim are like the Stormtroopers at the Universities in germany in the 20's and 30's. This is an attack on the University.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:36 AM

Fortunately, a lot of Americans have the "I'm from Missouri" attitude and are not taken in by these moral equivalency peddlers. That's what will save us.

Posted by: Frank at December 4, 2006 11:31 AM

I wish some of those people would head east and set up shop in Washington already- the goofballs who've been there since at least Clinton's administration don't seem to have much of a clue
about the Islamic menace with their "Islam is peace" dreck.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:36 AM

americaningermany:

islamofascist = orcs = islam-o-orcs!
Brilliant! Tolkien would be indeed pleased!

Posted by: descendantofacrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:42 AM

How about "Islamo-nazis"? Or, is that already being used?

Posted by: americaningermany


Americaningermany - I have heard the term many times... I'm referring to them as 'mo-foes' now but I suppose people offshore wouldn't be privy to the double entendre...

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 12:02 PM

How about "Islamo-nazis"? Or, is that already being used?
Yes, already in use. (LGF) But feel free to use it anyway...it is the truth.

Brigitte Gabriel is a treasure. She has been through hell and back already, and these cretins think they can intimidate her.
I wish I was closer, I would attend the speech. I'm getting on in years now, not old, just older than fighting form, but I would bust a few "burqa babes" heads if need be. I'm still in better shape than 98% of women at my age.
We cannot allow these fascists to stop freedom of speech. On The Daily Kos(sac), the interruptions and attacks on speakers that do not tow the left's line are called "protecting freedom of speech" and white is black and more Orwellian B.S. The protesters that rushed the stage when Gilchrest tried to speak thought they were great patriots. They not only rushed the stage, they were violent. It really reminded me of the "brown shirts" before WWII. And they say that about Republicans...when do Republicans act like that?
I hope a large contingent of people with brains will attend and try to keep order and foremost protect Brigitte.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 12:07 PM

"I don't live in Michigan, but perhaps we could all contact the conservative Christian groups or churches in the area to show en masse and support Gabriel."

Yes, it would perforce be conservative Christian groups, not the ones who lean to the pews on the Left; now, I wonder why that would be? Gee, let me think...

Posted by: remote_control [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 12:08 PM

Frank,

"I have come to the conclusion that multiculturalism is a kind of nihilism similar to the good-bad-relativism of the Wiemar period in Germany in the 1920's. It is an attack on the Enlightenment judgement of good and bad based on reason and will ultimately open the door to Nazi style stormtroopers and Muslim stormtroopers if we don't start using our heads."

The German writer/poet Heinrich Heine (1797-1856) is rather famous for observing, already in the early to mid 19th century, the inchoate beginnings of just the sociological and philodoxical phenomenon you mention. The German-American philosopher of history Eric Voegelin (1901-1985) probed further back for the roots of the modern disease, paradoxically into the Enlightenment itself (with precursors even further in the past) (though I have been dismayed to note many Voegelinians are infected with PC themselves with regard to the problem of Islam).

Posted by: remote_control [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 12:16 PM

Contact info for the President of the University, Mary Sue Coleman...

http://www.umich.edu/pres/

Posted by: Dana [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 12:29 PM

"" PLEASE SEE THIS SITE....

http://usawakeup.org/


Posted by: terise ""

Thank you !

This site is extremely well laid out and to be honest it scared the crap outta me!. i feel so helpless right now!. i can't get anyone , not a single person i know to listen to me , or to look at sites suxh as Jihadwatch and others.

How can we prevail with such apathy as this!?

How can we win when most people won't even acknowledge the threat?

The arrogance exibited by people , that it is not as bad as many say or that the US and the West can never be defeated by a FEW crazy radicals?!


It is becomeing a very depressing time in My life and the life of the Free world.

I'll never surrender or Bow down , but i must admit that with all this Apathy...

I DESPAIR!

Posted by: DUGGY [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 12:49 PM

Threats and intimidation from Muslim student groups (indeed much like the Hitler youth on assignment)--a theme being played out throughout campuses in the western world. The prophet Muhammad in the Hadith instructed his followers to engage in precisely this sort of activity--go and cause a ruckus, insulting and cursing people of other religions, in order to instigate conflict and generate pretexts for more conflicts.

Brigitte Gabriel, herself a survivor of an Islamic terrorist attack, has courageously faced down these types of fervent and devout Muslim megamouths in previous speaking engagements. I believe she will do so once again.

Anti-jihadist folks who are at U. of Michigan should bring their video cameras with audio and capture all the Islamo-thugs on tape, get their names if possible, get quotes from them and record everything, write it all up in the student paper, send it to media outlets that will show it. If the media outlets won't show it send them to Jihadwatch, *Islam-Watch, etc., or try to get it on YouTube.

*
http://www.islam-watch.org/

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 12:52 PM

All this crap makes me want to go back to collage just so i can mix it up with some of these commie/muslimes.

Go Chargers!

Posted by: crusader619 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 12:53 PM

I wish that we had more like her. I send my prayers out to her and those who will support her for her work to enlighten us more.

Anyway, spread the word and pictures, videos etc., ... and try to paricipate in any practical programs where possible, too.

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 1:29 PM


Watch this Youtube video - another proof how Muslim clerics are incapable of reason and intelligence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwCn-IT_zZA

Posted by: Rafa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 1:33 PM

PLEASE SEE THIS SITE....

http://usawakeup.org/

WAKE UP AMERICA!! PASS IT ON TO ALL.
THE WORD MUST GET OUT
ALSO A NOTE ABOUT BRIGETTE GABRIELLE. SHE WAS ABLE TO GET BODY GUARDS AND K-9 DOGS FOR TONIGHTS LECTURE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MICH.
ALL YOU CAN GO TO SUPPORT HER PLEASE GO!!

THE MUSLIMS, HEZBOLLAH FRIENDS WILL BE ATTEMPTING TO STOP HER APPEARANCE..
Posted by: terise [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 08:41 AM

A great site, well done!

I'm impressed. I'll link to it!

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 1:37 PM

In an academic setting, attempting to shout down an opponent must be viewed as an admission of intellecutal bankruptcy. The University should come down very hard indeed on students when this happens. One of the chief rationales for academe has traditionally been the responsibility to provide a forum where ideas can be debated. The tactics of the street have no place there. Lets see if University administrators have the stones to preserve order in their own house, or if (unfortunately much more likely) they cave in to the pressure of the jihadis.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 1:41 PM

Hi guys,

'Sorry, I'm just checking in real quick before I have to run out the door, but if someone is going to be there tonight

WOULD YOU CONSIDER TAPING THEIR ACTIONS SO WE CAN USE THIS TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE NOT LAW ABIDING CITIZENS?

And please sya your prayers today for Brighitte, so that none of these scumzoids will make a move on her.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 1:45 PM

Dana:
‘Contact info for the President of the University, Mary Sue Coleman...’

Done! I have written President Coleman and I suggest others who would support and preserve ‘academic freedom’ and the ‘light of knowledge’ do likewise.

Posted by: descendantofacrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 1:47 PM

Watch this Youtube video - another proof how Muslim clerics are incapable of reason and intelligence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwCn-IT_zZA

Interesting Rafa,

The way he talks about mathematics reminds me just on 700 million plus illiterate muslims worldwide, lol.

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 1:49 PM

Excellent idea! This should absolutely be done!

I feel so helpless over here in Germany right now. Hope someone will be able to attend and tape anything and everything that goes on there.

Posted by: americaningermany at December 4, 2006 02:11 PM

Could there possibly someone invite her to Germany and Thailand etc.?

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 2:25 PM

" ....not a single person i know to listen to me , or to look at sites suxh as Jihadwatch and others.

How can we prevail with such apathy as this!?

How can we win when most people won't even acknowledge the threat"

Duggy


I'm not surprised of that kind of attitude from a typical American who has never been abroad, is not interested in the goings on all over the world, and is only interested in what's happening around his/her little circle and what's on tv.

But to my depair, my children, who are young adults, who should know better, since they've seen how a muslim country treats it's christian minority, have the exact same attitude! They've seen and heard first hand the minorities who were displaced because of attacks by muslims with the acquiescence of the government. Yet, they bury their head in the sand.

Most blame should go to our education system. Since they're young they've been bombarded with these touchy feely things about everything, especially about other cultures. It's ok to criticize ourselves but not ok to do that to other cultures. It's ok to protest companies that bring in cheap goods from other countries, but at the same time they'd jump on all the sales. It's ok to protest our government for not signing on to the Kyoto treaty, yet they all want their own cars, preferably suv, of better yet a hummer. Or to have the a/c on full blast in the summer.

Our school curriculum should have a major overhaul from kindergarten on and teach facts as they are and not glossed over by political correctness.

We need to teach them that 'values' are related, amongs others, to the economic situation.

For instance, we treat our pets as part of our family. In the 3rd world countries, dogs for are kicked around, and in some instances are food.

It's not because we are better then 'they', but it is because we can afford it. That's a fact.

Our kids are not taught about the reason behind all the Islamic terrorists act these past 20 years. Just quote what's said by the terrorists themselves, like what Mr. Spencer and others have been doing. But no .............., of course it's not pc to quote things like, christians are infidels, filthy, dhimmi, etc.

With their 'soft' upbringing due to our good economy, and judeo christian principle of love, they find it hard to believe that there are intentionally 'evil' people in this world. No matter how much they've been told and have seen.

They have all the good intentions, like save the environments, but still want their creature comforts, like cold air in the summer, driving whenever one feels like it, etc.

They have such kind heart. One day a young man who had never been overseas, came with us on vacation to a 3rd world country. My sister's driver drove us around. When he found out how much (little) money he earned, he gave him (the driver) a huge tip every time he had driven us. But ......, when he's pocket money provided him was almost gone, guess where he got additional money to buy all the things he wanted? You guessed it, mom and dad!!!!
(The young american lad of course didn't realize that the driver considered himself lucky for having a good job, compared a lot of people who didn't have a job).

Huh, I just needed to get this off my chest.

Posted by: jasmine [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 2:32 PM

Oops, has not quite finished.

I've read Brigitte Gabriell's book. It is so true what she said about the Muslims, I can relate to that based on what has happened to the country I'm originally from.

It used to be secular, and now the islamists/jihadiss are very stong, it permeates every level of society, up to the very top. That's why the authorities are not doing much to prosecute the jihadists because they basically agree with them, it's all because of their religion, Islam.

We have also had id checks by individuals/mobs. In Indonesia it's called 'sweeping'.

Right now, depending on the 'piousness' of the neighborhood you're in, very often they don't want you to have prayer/religious meetings in your house. The more 'pious' the neighborhood, the more threatening they are when you have a prayer/religous meeting.

Posted by: jasmine [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 2:38 PM

http://usawakeup.org/

Posted by terise
---

I utterly enjoyed that Flash presentation.

Blogrolled it!

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 2:38 PM

Brigette Gabriel on Hezbollah..


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20350

Posted by: Madduck [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 2:47 PM

They WILL get away with it and NEVER be charged with hate crimes or anything else for that matter- They completely got away with it in columbia university as well. Gabriel has an important message of truth, and the radicals simply can not allow her message to wake people up to the fact that radical islam is a murderous vile blight on the world! Good luck Gabriel- I hope you get to speak in safety and will pray for that. http://sacredscoop.com

Posted by: CottShop [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 2:48 PM

remote_control-

Many Muslims (like Nazis) demonstrate a criminal mind supremacist attitude toward Unbelievers. The criminal mind does not take responsibility for actions, blames others for behavior, rationalizes exploitation and crimes against others, and demands that others conform to their beliefs and adjust to them.

My aunt has worked with people on parole for nearly 25 years and has told me that the true sociopath is not concerned about hurting the
"innocent" and always blame others for their actions-including blaming rape victims!? As per her, they are only concerned about being exposed or caught.

The supremacist attitude of criminals (even toward rape victims) is similar to the attitude of the clowns on US Air or the Muslim Stormtroopers in Michigan. This is a bad feature of their culture-very similar to the Nazi Storm trooper mentality.

P.S. To any Indignant-Multicultural Supremacists: if you don't like my comparison of the Muslim Stormtroopers to Nazi Stormtroopers, or the clowns on US Air to people with criminal minds-that's too bad.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 2:50 PM

Jasmine,
You are absolutely correct in your assessment. Thankfully, you are no longer where you speak of. You must factor in that many in America have seen through this bologna from the beginning. They have taken steps to inoculate their children from this virus. In many cases it is not even necessary, that is if the child is semi intelligent and capable of reason. So do not despair, we are going to get through this just like we have in the past. We have their number and it is only a matter of time before there is a major backlash. Hang tough and do what you can to fight them w/o exposing yourself until then.

Frank,
Who can argue with a perfect example?

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 2:53 PM

It is when one awakens to the knowledge that Izlam is the evil cult of the anti-Christ that one becomes a true ISLAMOPHOBE.

Atheists who "believe" that all organized religions are stupid and backward will never do more than regard Islam as just another manifestation of that stupidity, another, "opiate for the masses" that will dwindle and fade with human progress.

It is not enough to think of Izlam as stupid, which it is. It takes dwelling on the idea that the Fiend mohammad (assholeofallah) put himself ABOVE JESUS to get the blood really boiling.

Izlam is much more than a really stupid religion for retards. It is the handiwork of the devil.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 3:14 PM

To conspire to deny freedom of speech to someone - shouldn't that be a constitutional issue?

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 3:15 PM

Reminds me of a lecture I went to in NJ 3 yrs ago. I was sick as a dog-flu- but Natan Sharansky was speaking. I was afraid that the idiots would overwhell the sheep, so, I went. I noted how they didn't really check bags and wondered what was coming in. The brilliant Sharansky, set up the two first rows for the 'palestinians' and marxists, in front of everyone else. Just as he began, he got pied by this marxist creep, but he just shook it off, and came back and noted that it likely was not a kosher pie he'd been hit with.

He spoke softly, clearly, and brilliantly. He laid out the events and real facts of the last 50 yrs. By the time he was finished, not one, not even one, of the rats of Islam, the rats of 'palestinian' persuasion was left in the audience. They had been answered clearly, concisely and nothing of their screechings would penetrate the wall of facts and common sense that this former resident of a solitary confinement cell int he gulags of the Soviets, so, they left.

The next day- the ISM site had a lie, on it. The marxist creep who pied Sharansky said he'd been beaten by the guards, and his nose broken in overkill. I was in direct view- they handled the creep fast, deftly, with a single leg takedown and immobilazation which never touched his face, nor broke anything. he was a liar. They are liars of
moral, historical revisionism and of tyrants who they worship as their leaders.

May Mrs Gabrielle tell her tale, her stories and may the crowds be able to listen and learn.

Mark

Posted by: mgoldberg [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 3:15 PM


I hope that USC squashes the U of M, or University of Mecca! heh

Posted by: Tookson [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 3:30 PM

May Mrs Gabrielle tell her tale, her stories and may the crowds be able to listen and learn.

Mark, thank you for this encouraging testemonial above.

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 3:31 PM

Has anyone alerted Fox News? They must have an affiliate in the area. I agree with Isabelle; the more cameras there the better.

"All those that doeth evil hateth the light."

I also agree that while entering the lions' den is sometimes necessary, a great deal of work needs to be done out in the wilderness. These intrepid speakers need to get out into areas where the threat is not yet as advanced and let people know that the whisp of smoke they smell is part of a much larger conflagration that is headed their way.

I believe the old WWII strategy was called "Hit 'em where they ain't".

Posted by: USBeast [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 3:49 PM

Brigitte Gabriel could go to any of he former Soviet-controlled Eastern European nations and be treated like an honored foreign diplomat. She could even pray aloud and preach a sermon if she liked.

Not so in America. Not anymore--not since liberalism and political correctness has destroyed the first amendment of our Constitution, and has replaced it with freedom FROM speech, and freedom FROM religion.

Liberalism is a tool for the Jihadi horde, in order to silence any opposition to their war against freedom and liberty. The fools that they are, liberals fail to realize that the Jihadi horde will eliminate THEM no later than the rest of us. They supply the rope for their own hanging.

Posted by: yohannbiimu [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 3:50 PM

Respond to them the same way.

Email to all Christian Students to show up in force.

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 4:02 PM

I ALSO CALL ON LAWYERS IN EVERY NATION TO ESTABLISH A STUDY ON THE VARIOUS BOOKS OF ISLAM TO COMPARE IT WITH THE CONSTITUIONS.
FURTHERMORE TO HAVE ANY AND ALL MUSLIMS SIGN THE CONSTITUTIONS, LET THEM DENY THE JIHAD, SHARIA AND EVERYTHING THAT CALLS FOR VIOLENCE AND TROUBLE.

THAT WILL SHOW US THE TRUE FACE OF ISLAM. THOSE WHO ARE UNWILLING TO SIGN MUST BE PUT UNDER HOUSE ARREST IMMEDATELY.

JUST TO START WITH

HAVE SOME LAWYERS IN YOUR COUNTRIES WORKING ON THAT ISSUE.

I'M SURE WE'LL SEE A SURPRISE WITHIN A YEAR OR SO.

IT SHALL BE SO!

AMEN, AMEN AND CHEERS TO BRIGITTE
http://civoc.com/society/?p=8#more-8

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 4:14 PM

I ALSO CALL ON LAWYERS IN EVERY NATION TO ESTABLISH A STUDY ON THE VARIOUS BOOKS OF ISLAM TO COMPARE IT WITH THE CONSTITUIONS.
FURTHERMORE TO HAVE ANY AND ALL MUSLIMS SIGN THE CONSTITUTIONS, LET THEM DENY THE JIHAD, SHARIA AND EVERYTHING THAT CALLS FOR VIOLENCE AND TROUBLE.

THAT WILL SHOW US THE TRUE FACE OF ISLAM. THOSE WHO ARE UNWILLING TO SIGN MUST BE PUT UNDER HOUSE ARREST IMMEDATELY.

JUST TO START WITH

HAVE SOME LAWYERS IN YOUR COUNTRIES WORKING ON THAT ISSUE.

I'M SURE WE'LL SEE A SURPRISE WITHIN A YEAR OR SO.

IT SHALL BE SO!

AMEN, AMEN AND CHEERS TO BRIGITTE
http://civoc.com/society/?p=8#more-8

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 4:15 PM

Brigitte calls a spade a spade...that's why they are desperate not to allow her to speak.
Their position comes off as so baseless, so without foundation that it cannot withstand scrutiny.

She is also the one who called political correctness our biggest problem in dealing with them...and she is right.

The fact that the islamofascist brownshirts attack her is of no surprise at all. That's not free speech as they claim...it's called stalking in most US states (a felony act of inciting, inducing and/or enacting harassment of a person or person by implementation of fear and intimidation in intentional format). It is also depriving her of her civil rights (a federal level crime here).
That aside, the vast majority of Americans here can see their actions for what they are...violent desperation of a position that is in danger of exposure of person or persons of dubious value.

Her word gets out no matter what they do...that's what gets to them...they cannot stop it here. The genie of sorts is already out of the bottle...and there isn't a damned thing they can do about it now.

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 4:26 PM

"....In many cases it is not even necessary, that is if the child is semi intelligent and capable of reason.:
tgusa


I try to educate them on the truth about muslims and islam, and I think that some of it does come across, but they are so indoctrinated (not from me), but from their liberal dhimmi professors, that it makes me want to go and slap their professors faces.
Posted by: americaningerman


When Obsession was first available on the net I downloaded it and made several copies to pass it on to people and asking them to please watch and then pass it on to their friends.

My kids refused to even look at them. One of their friends though, seem to be interested to find out more about the jihadis, so I gave her a cd. Again asking her to please pass it on.

A few weeks later, right about the time that Fox News showed Obsession on tv, she apparently saw it and asked if the cd I gave her was about the same thing. I told her it is exactly the same movie. So, because of the fox news program, she said she was going to watch the whole cd, because she only caught part of the fox news program.

Well, I do hope other tv stations will highlight and show programs about the REAL intentions of the islamists. Had it not been for fox news, this very well college educated young lady would never have the desire to see the cd I gave her. :-( Guess I am not a convincing 'sales person'. :-(

Kudos to the cable news and the media that are starting to show the true jihad/islam, hope it's only the beginning and that more Americans and people in the west would be educated about this.

Posted by: jasmine [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 5:56 PM

jasmine,

Yeah, my DVD copy of Obsession got passed around my family, and I've yet to get it back! I noticed that once the Fox network showed the film, everyone and their brother came out of the woodwork asking to see my copy. I have no idea who has that darn thing now! Good thing I've got it on my computer! *grin*

Cheers,

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 6:25 PM

jasmine,
If you take some time and ask them, do they like their music, video games, internet, clothes, movies, books, cartoons, cars, cell phones, girlfriends, boyfriends, schools, clubs, pizza parlors, dances, sports, bowling alleys, libraries, amusement parks, I could go on literally forever.
If they care for any of these, they better wake up, study up on islam before it is too late. No joke.
Oh, did I forget to mention life?

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 6:30 PM

7 PM CST:

I just called the Univ. President's office, got the public safety number, called them, and a woman said that they knew about the protest and that protection would be provided.
Let's see if she's right.

I previously called Al-Awda (linked from Deb Schussel) and when I asked about the possible protest, he hung up on me, so I sent him an email. Not holding my breath.

Boy, do I wish I were closer than 2000 miles away!!

Posted by: stangrad123 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 8:20 PM

Does anyone have an update to this? Did the protest keep her from speaking or what?

Thanks,

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 10:12 PM

Hello all, reporting from the Ann Arbor front following Ms. Gabriel's lecture. I was prepared for the worst, but the lecture was a resounding success! The auditorium could seat ca. 300, and it was filled to the brim. I counted 3 policemen and around 3 large menacing looking bodyguards, but they were not needed. Not a burqa or hijab or bearded one in sight. Mostly young, student audience, with a sprinkling of middle-eastern looking types, but not possible to tell if they were Christian Arab or not. A noticeable Jewish contingent was present. Ms. Gabryel gave an articulate, powerful, personal lecture, which in one hour covered all the essential points that we at JW are familiar with. The word "islamofascism" was used more than once, and you could hear a pin drop. The audience listened with rapt attention. She received two standing ovations and several round of enthusiastic applause. There is hope!

Posted by: nichtdhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:03 PM

BTW, there were no metal detectors or security screening of any kind. That made me a little uneasy. But there were more than enough armed policemen and bodyguards to take care of any situation that may have arisen.

Posted by: nichtdhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:09 PM

nichtdhimmi

I was there too and concur with your report of the event. I have to admit, I also wondered why it seemed so lax on security, but I thought, "this lady is not getting backed down--why should I?"

I was surprised to hear her on WJR, Michigan's most powerful radio staion--and sort of a flagship station for years. Below, listen to the account she gave host Frank Beckmann this morning. In the past Beckmann has been swayed to heavily by the Arab American News--apologists for islamists. Today, his audience finally heard the truth of the jihad. Hopefully, her appearance portends a growing awareness in the PC media.

Here is the link to Brigitte Gabriel's interview from this morning in advance tonight's presentation.

http://wjr.com/Article.asp?id=315004&spid=6527

Posted by: BB [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:26 PM

BB, I was scanning the crowd and wondering if there was another JW cohort in the crowd :-) I was the, ahem, not-so-young non-student in the corner.

I feel heartened that WJR broadcast her. The more people are exposed, the more hope there is.

Posted by: nichtdhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:33 PM

We weren't the only, ahem, oldsters in there!

I plan on sending that link to many people. Beckmann has a pretty big following because he is like a sports pal to many of us who have heard him broadcast U-M Football for years now. He is known for playing a pretty even hand--but so far, this is the first time I have ever heard him have such a powerful spokesperson against jihad on there in Brigitte. He has usually sucked up to the islamists in the past.

Yes maybe, there is hope!

Posted by: BB [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2006 11:56 PM

BB
nichtdhimmi,

Thanks for the updates. I'm glad everything went well.

Cheers,

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 12:11 AM

Since with few exceptions all those fabled gazillions of moderate Muslims repeatedly fail to step up and defend liberal democratic society from the "tiny minority" of extremists who mysteriously manage to "hijack" Islam all over the globe all the time, it's obviously up to non-Muslims to do what's necessary to maintain freedom of speech.

Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 12:56 AM

Foehammer, I got a laugh out of the question at the end of your post:

Yes, these are all examples of the continuing problem with the "tiny minority of extremists" in the Muslim world. Even the "enlightened" Muslims on college campuses seem to be overrun by their "extremist" elements. What are the odds?
Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 1:01 AM

Oh good, I'm glad we had at least two Jihad Watchers present, BB and nightdhimmi to keep an eye on things and lend a helping hand if anyone tried to go for Brigitte. It's nice to have you stalwart types around!

Maybe the Islamopsychos checked in here before the speech and knew we were onto them so they decided to behave themselves. (We can only hope.) Afterall, they wouldn't want to show their true colors in America yet, not until they have enough to take us over. Bloody cowards.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 1:35 AM

Hello all, reporting from the Ann Arbor front following Ms. Gabriel's lecture. I was prepared for the worst, but the lecture was a resounding success! The auditorium could seat ca. 300, and it was filled to the brim. I counted 3 policemen and around 3 large menacing looking bodyguards, but they were not needed. Not a burqa or hijab or bearded one in sight. Mostly young, student audience, with a sprinkling of middle-eastern looking types, but not possible to tell if they were Christian Arab or not. A noticeable Jewish contingent was present. Ms. Gabryel gave an articulate, powerful, personal lecture, which in one hour covered all the essential points that we at JW are familiar with. The word "islamofascism" was used more than once, and you could hear a pin drop. The audience listened with rapt attention. She received two standing ovations and several round of enthusiastic applause. There is hope!

Posted by: nichtdhimmi at December 4, 2006 11:03 PM

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN

Now keep up doing the work. Make it the talk of towns everywhere.

Brigitte is the lady of the year

Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 3:30 AM

Nichtdhimmi and BB,

Thanks for attending and giving us this good news report!

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 5:20 AM

Wonder what took the wind out of their sails?

we had a lovely light snowfall, just enough to make it slippery on the roads,but beautiful to look at. l am sad l could not make it, had l known more in advance l would of went, l am about an hour from AnnArbor.
It is great it went off so well, and thrilled that she was able to have her talk. with more like these, you will have a much more informed youth and might sink into the older crowd.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 7:15 AM

Thank God for JWers!

Thank you nichtdhimmi and BB for being there (and any other JWers that haven't checked in). You are taking a stand and making a difference!

This is the stuff of which America is made. Never doubt the ultimate triumph of Enlightened Western Civilization over primitive savage barbarity. Good WILL prevail over Evil.

Posted by: CGW [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 7:45 AM

What a brave and courageous woman Brigitte Gabrielle is! It looks like the muslim mutants heard that the word was spread and like the cowards they are they stayed away. Each and every time one of our speakers of truth are engaged we should spread the word and attend as protectors for these liberators.

Once muslims know that they will be disrupted and possibly suffer broken noses and the like you will see their protests diminished. It is a sad commentary when muslim thugs try to disrupt speakers who tout the line of reality and danger of Islam in The U.S.A.

America proves its worth yet once again by saying loud and clear, "We ain't going to take it anymore!" Let the muslims shrink into the corners of their own dispair and maybe they'll be encouraged to shake the shackles of slavery that bind them all to this brainwashed ideology.

I and my friends will round up a cadre of protectors for Brigitte should she speak in the NYC or Long Island area. If the muslims try to disrupt and hurt her we will break their heads! They will know that they are the ones in jeoapardy and that they are unwelcome here and that danger lurks for them instead. That they have no power here and that we will indeed profile them.

It is time to ban all books, and teaching of Islam culture in our schools, but a course on the horrors and cruelty by Mohammed must be taught. To each and every muslim I encounter during this Holiday season I will say "Merry Christmas" and if they object I will tell them to "fuck off!"

Posted by: Truthseeker [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 8:23 AM

All of you go to this link....it will wake up those who are not yet convinced that this is not a "religion of peace"......

http://www.youtube.com/w/?v=_PPOjnO4nvQ&session=gAJ9cQEoVQxlcnJvcl9maWVsZHNxAmNfX2J1aWx0aW5fXwpzZXQKcQNdhVJxBFUGZXJyb3JzcQVdcQZVCG1lc3NhZ2VzcQddcQhVDFZpZGVvIGFkZGVkIXEJYXUu

This is what they want here...........this is how they want to control this planet. They must be stopped. Maybe that is why God invented atomics. Allah protect them!

Posted by: Truthseeker [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 8:30 AM

Thanks for the report on Brigitte Daniel's talk.

Sigh. (Relief that everything not only went well but also seem to get people's full attention).

Seems like there is a glimmer of hope that there are more and more people willing to listen to voices like her.

We need to keep it up, get people interested in the message about islamofacism.

Posted by: jasmine [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 11:33 AM

Thanks and well done to the Jihad Watchers who took the time to support this speech. It shows what can be done, and will serve to encourage us all to participate in actions like this. This page allowed us to mobilize, marshal support, and fire a warning shot across the bow of the academic bureaucrats at the sponsoring institution by informing them that whatever they did would be observed and discussed beyond their own campus. In short - message delivered, speaker protected, right to free speech enforced, and enemy denied the opportunity to exert their will.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 2:53 PM


Very heartening reports!! I confess that I was expecting much worse even with my generally positive feeling that people are coming around to recognizing the looming threat.

If Ms. Gabriel can get a reception like that in a predominently liberal/left college town like Ann Arbor, then we are making some headway.

Posted by: alexon [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2006 7:17 PM

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