Actually, instead of dropping bombs, we should drop liquor & girlie mags...it will pacify them in no time.

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 at December 6, 2006 4:00 PM

If we could just get slick Willy and Ackmininanutjob to hang out with each outher, this issue would resolve its self.

Posted by: AMartinez at December 6, 2006 4:05 PM

This is just too classic, and just goes to show you the hypocrisy of Islamonazism!

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at December 6, 2006 4:06 PM

Doc...ya got a gift for understatement. lol

Posted by: jcom972 at December 6, 2006 4:10 PM

If the dancers in question were Infidels, such as Indian Hindus and Egyptian Copts, there is nothing un-Islamic in what Ahmadjihad did; it's just Mohammedan dancers he isn't allowed to ogle. I'm guessing that that wasn't probably the case.

The article above also claimed that Many were not wearing veils. In other words, some were. Watching a veiled dancer would be akin to watching a dance of Count Dracula's shadow in the movie Dracula: Dead and loving it.

Readers of Playboy usually claim that they read it for the articles. Wonder what excuse the man who's going to usher in the 12th Imam out of that Qum well has for this gaffe? Also, what is Ismail Haniya's excuse?

The other side note here is the idea of Wahabi Qatar, home of al Jazeera, hosting the Asian Games. Do they ban all the women's events?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at December 6, 2006 4:11 PM

I think all of them do that before they blow themselves up. The 9/11 ones did it right before.

Posted by: lance vigorous at December 6, 2006 4:12 PM

Now if he wants to drop a nuclear bomb on Israel and kill millions of Jews, that would be marvelous to the minions of mohammad (allahsasshole), but look at a woman's navel? OBSCENE!

On a positive note, maybe they'll chop off his heads. The big one and the little one.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at December 6, 2006 4:17 PM

Religious fundamentalists, usually Mr Ahmadinejad's keenest supporters, are asking why he attended a ceremony that violated his own government's strict interpretation of Shia Islam.
the answer would appear to be quite simple like all politicians I'm a nut job is as hypocritical as all of them and probably when he was staring at the dancers like all Muslims and probably dreaming up having them as booty i.e. his personal sex slaves

Posted by: islamakapigeaters at December 6, 2006 4:27 PM

Things to come:

1. Blame the dancers on the Mossad and the CIA, it is a Zionist conspiracy.

2. Create a problem out side of the country that takes away internal attention on the problem.

Posted by: alaskan1000 at December 6, 2006 4:28 PM

Again, classic practice of Taqqiyah.
As long as you invoke the name of your cause, all is fair without penalty...a free pass for whatever is needed to justify self-righteousness.

Much like the 2-rule theory...
1) Islam is always right
2) if islam is wrong, rule #1 takes precedence.

Pretty clear if you ask me.

Posted by: jcom972 at December 6, 2006 4:29 PM

! Death to the Horny Hypocrite !

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at December 6, 2006 4:30 PM

So are they going to pluck his eyes out or lob off his head?

Posted by: sounder at December 6, 2006 4:43 PM

Oolah-la!

Posted by: alexon at December 6, 2006 4:53 PM

It is simply a pitiful display every moment as we watch these characters from another time cavort around as if the world should have stopped for them way back in their feudal, and paganistic days. (Mohammed compromised his Koran with the Arabs for some of their paganistic rituals)-while the rest of the world moves on to achieve some greater degree of civility and understanding of the needs of mankind, these characters still haven't found their way out of that dark cave yet.

Posted by: Mackie at December 6, 2006 5:02 PM

A close review of the footage will show, without a doubt, that Ahmadinejad's infamous green aura was present through the whole ceremony. He wouldn't have been able to see much of anything beyond it. Thus, his honor and that of the entire Iranian Islamic Revolution have surely been preserved.

Alhamdulillah!

Posted by: InfidelWench at December 6, 2006 5:08 PM

Now if he wants to drop a nuclear bomb on Israel and kill millions of Jews, that would be marvelous to the minions of mohammad (allahsasshole)

[...]

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2

Sorry to interrupt with this OT thought, but.. if they ever do this and drop the bomb on Israel.. I do hope the Israelis will go not only for Iran, but for the very place that all of this unholy madness started from. We know the name. Mecca and Medina.

Posted by: germaninamerica at December 6, 2006 5:22 PM

hmmmm, very interesting, the most holiest of shia presidents' watching unveiled women dancing. Lo and behold bashir and haniyeh too! What is the islamic leadership heading for

Pres Tom of Iran puts on a very good pious show in front of his people. In reality, he is the phoniest of them all.

Posted by: callmeinfidel at December 6, 2006 5:24 PM

At thier best....iality.

http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=139745

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at December 6, 2006 5:26 PM

Would they have rather had him watching men dancers? Those Iranians get nuttier by the day.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 6, 2006 5:33 PM

Sorry to interrupt with this OT thought, but.. if they ever do this and drop the bomb on Israel.. I do hope the Israelis will go not only for Iran, but for the very place that all of this unholy madness started from. We know the name. Mecca and Medina.

Posted by: germaninamerica at December 6, 2006 05:22 PM

Let's not forget that "holy" Iranian city of Qom-which spews forth all those wonderful ayatollahs.
They should get it before even Tehran.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 6, 2006 5:37 PM

"Actually, instead of dropping bombs, we should drop liquor & girlie mags...it will pacify them in no time."

That could be a very sound strategy in actually causing complete and total anarchy within the Islamic world. The mental images I have of the fascist authorities trying to keep order is hilarious!

Posted by: yohannbiimu at December 6, 2006 5:39 PM

They should take him out and stone him of course

Posted by: CaptainGrevious at December 6, 2006 5:52 PM

Pres Tom of Iran puts on a very good pious show in front of his people. In reality, he is the phoniest of them all.

Posted by: callmeinfidel

"Actually, instead of dropping bombs, we should drop liquor & girlie mags...it will pacify them in no time."

Dropping liquor and girlie mags.. and maybe a few horse-wags-man ones too.. is a GREAT idea for RIGHT NOW... BEFORE we have to resort to more violent tactics.

Once these savages bomb Israel or one of our cities we can't retaliate with girlie mags and booze. Hey I think a lot of the bums on our street corners might move over there if it rains girlie mags and booze.. :-) Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy moving to Qom anytime soon :-) ??

Posted by: germaninamerica at December 6, 2006 5:52 PM

From Faith Freedom>>>>>

http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=781

Posted by: aladdinsane57 at December 6, 2006 6:08 PM

The Devil made him do it? LOL

sounds oddly familiar

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 6, 2006 6:15 PM

Re: Could the world be saved from nuclear war by...dancing girls in Doha?-Robert

The Psychotic-In-Iran needs what these gals have to offer. Guys are very visual in these things. It's a start.

Posted by: Frank at December 6, 2006 6:16 PM

Concerned Canadian:

No, the jews and infidels made him do it! LOL

Posted by: sounder at December 6, 2006 6:19 PM

LOL, it's almost like some 80's cartoon where two super-villains turn on each other.

Posted by: senatortombstone at December 6, 2006 6:21 PM

If Mr. Ahmadinejad had been allowed as a young man to associate with girls in a normal Male/ Female relationship, maybe he wouldn't have to resort to watching the Muslim equavalent of Porno. Afterall, isn't that what really motivates most Muslim suicide bombers, the need to be alone with a female (or, more accurately, 72 females) for once in their abnormal and tragic lives?
One wonders what Mr. Ahmadinejad's critics would have said if 'pearly" young boys were dancing? No Arab audience could possibly be turned on by that.

Posted by: rational at December 6, 2006 6:52 PM

Aladdinsane57,

Yup, I just installed Islam.exe BETA on my computer, and the darn thing tried to behead me!!! Must be a bug in the OS... *grin*

Cheers,

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at December 6, 2006 6:54 PM

Hmmm if dancing and singing caused this much fuss I wonder what they would think of Roller Derby.

Posted by: Ronin at December 6, 2006 7:00 PM

Those poor dancers. Can you imagine belly dancing in front for those murderers?

Posted by: Urban Infidel at December 6, 2006 7:01 PM

Maybe he couldn't wait for his 72 Virgins? maybe he wanted an advance?.

This will not change anything , but i do find it amusing.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 6, 2006 7:15 PM

Like many lunatics and nearly all fanatics -- the hypocrisy of the lunatic Muslim variety knows no bounds. Saudis regularly engage in the most decadent debauchery in the West, and no doubt within the protected confines of their Saudi Sanctuaries. The tales I've heard of the child abuse (beatings, and widespread rape of little boys) at their Madrassas, which appears to be both systematic and systemic, all by the pious Muslim "teachers" and such -- it's all nauseating beyond belief...

These Muslim societies seem so riddled with obviously and utterly broken systems, yet they show themselves to focus the critical eye outward, never inward, despite all their silly claims of piousness and rectitude. There seems to be a singularly Islamic personality disorder which spans the sectarian divides in Islam which only permits expressions of loathing and hatred outwards towards their eternal scapegoats the so called "infidels". There appears to be little to no capacity for self criticism and therefore no possiblility for correction and reform.

How can we exploit this pathological rigidity?

Such traits only really manifest themselves in such pathological ways among people who deeply understand their inferiority, who will do nearly anything other than confronting their badness and brokenness.

It seems we should be able to cripple them and humiliate them in an effort to shatter their cesspool beliefs, yet there also seems to be a self-protective mechanism inherent in Arab and Muslim culture, perhaps their fanatical belief in their own rectitude, which translates all criticism of their actions, any criticism of Islam, and even the act of descibing their heinousness by reporting on the atrocities they commit daily, which transmogrifies their humiliation into vengeance, hatred, and violence directed towards the critic and observer.

At some point, it may simply be necessary to deal wholesale with such a non-performing, negative, and retrograge segment of humanity.

Why should the entire planet be engulfed in a Holocaust just so a billion Muslims can rampage and live unmolested in their so called "House of Peace". Why should we tolerate for one minute more the fact that they are determining the global agenda through their only successfull social exports:

Terrorism.
Overflow Muslim immigrants who breed out of control on our nickel.
More Islam and more mosques.
Chaos and subversion wherever they rear their heads.

It seems increasingly like Islam is a trash culture and society hell bent on tainting and polluting the rest of the planet with their filth. Why should we endure it while they endeavor to make the rest of us as miserable as they have made themselves? What do we do with other dangerous and toxic threats, or with rotting garbage and detritus? Do we attempt to make it all pretty, do we pretend it's not horrible, do we attempt to fix the infinite broken things which constitute such piles of refuse? Or do we bury and burn such garbage in order to rid ourselves of it?

I am not interested in continuing to watch lying, insane, and hypocritical Muslims subvert and obliterate everything my ancestors fought and died for. Ours is a legacy worth protecting, and especially against the dirty hands of the most tainted "religioin" on earth, Islam.

Posted by: jsla at December 6, 2006 7:25 PM

Alladinsane57,

The 'lonely Taliban' clip is way funny!

Two notes:

He's obviously does that on a regular basis (as the photographer had him under surveillance).

He'll have to sell the critter in the next town.

Posted by: PRCS at December 6, 2006 7:27 PM

alaskan1000:

"...Create a problem out side of the country that takes away internal attention on the problem."

He very well may use a play right out of the "Little Willie" Clinton play book.

Hmmm...what would immediately put me in favor with the true Islamists? Time is short...I got it!!! Carry through with one of my threats! Now to pick which infidel city...

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at December 6, 2006 7:54 PM

Re: Hardliners turn on Ahmadinejad for watching women dancers

The Islamic "Hardliners" are sort of like what Savage calls "the mean clipped-faced lesbians" in this matter. It's part of nature for men to be visual re women. Nature is interested in procreation. Love might come later.

"The mean clipped-faced lesbians" and Islamic hardliners punish anyone who shows any natural inclinations and both are similar to the Soviets re "collective farming" in their attitude to nature. All three groups (Islamic hardliners, "mean clipped-faced lesbians", and Soviets) try to change nature, blame anyone who does not conform to their "project" and might even kill anyone who interferes with their "project".

I guess a truly human "morality" begins with recognizing nature and fashioning rules based on nature and not supressing nature. All three groups (mentioned above) suppress and condemn nature. It's not pleasant to be with such believers or be judged by them.

The poor old Psychotic-In-Iran is showing some human nature. Give the guy a break.

Posted by: Frank at December 6, 2006 8:00 PM

Chastised, but still delusional:

Ahmadinejad: Iran's Resistance Makes Western Power Look "Flimsy"

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at December 6, 2006 8:02 PM

I have it on good authority that Mr. Ahmadinejad did not blink through the entire performance.

Posted by: Mike_W at December 6, 2006 8:04 PM

LOL^^^^

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 6, 2006 8:18 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if the clerics forced Ahmadingaling to step down over this. He's a ventriloquist's dummy anyway and what better way to prove to the world the "moral superiority" of Islam?

Who knows, the next guy might be even more fun to watch.

Posted by: USBeast at December 6, 2006 8:37 PM

Bad A-Nut, bad A-Nut. For soiling your eyes you shall be punished. The Mahdi will no longer chat with you. He is apalled at your behavior. He told me so. He was in my soup.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 6, 2006 8:47 PM

Hey Guys I got a picture of Bill Clinton that goes like a glove with this story.
But primarily I wanted to tell you this Within the space of a year I had to endure a double tragedy. The lives of my mother and father was cut short by the illegal separation of the two who had been together 58 years , the stress of the separation and ensuing legal battle took a heavy toll ... I would be honored if you joined me in this video that's 3 minutes long , in remembrance of these two lives that touched so many people and brought us so much more than they took with them. This is 3 min film to celebrate their 58 years together
Please watch this film with the speakers on . It will be worth it, I promise.

http://cyberray-rays.blogspot.com/2006/12/id-love-you-all-over-again.html#links

Posted by: Cyberray at December 6, 2006 9:07 PM

This to criticize the leader of Iran, an Islamic Republic where women 9 yrs of age are street legal.

Not to mention the pervasive rumors of pedophlia in Iran (i.e., sex with women 8 yrs or younger).

I don't think Prez Mahmoud needs the dancing girls who entertained him at the Asian games.

This dude's living the Sunnah (33:21), and was probably smiling during the performance at how sad-sack it all was in comparison to some of the sex scenes he runs back at his famed Islamic Austerity bachelor's pad.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at December 6, 2006 9:22 PM

Many were not wearing veils.

OH THE HORROR !

wut kind of stoopid "reelihjin" has an issue w/ a chick's face ?

Islam Ruins Everything

Posted by: Crunchy Jello at December 6, 2006 9:33 PM

Crunchy Jello,
Yep the uni-brow is a fixture. Plucking is not allowed on the face...everywhere else is OK, but no plucking eyebrows.
Did mo have a fetish for furry eyebrows?

Posted by: Carolyn2 at December 6, 2006 9:43 PM

LMAO I can picture the munchkin already after hours, serenading one of the veilless temptresses (that looks like a camels ass) singing an old American western love ballad:

"Buffalo gal, wontcha come out tonight...?"

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 at December 6, 2006 9:53 PM

No question that a contrite apology is on the way. The man's not going to alienate his base.

Posted by: Cornelius at December 6, 2006 10:18 PM

Some additional positive news coming out of Iran.

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/nov2006/gb20061130_396971.htm?link_position=link11

Apparently current oil product is only 64% of what it was in 1974. Surprise surprise, there is a lack of technical expertise and a lack of investment.

Hopefully a trend that will accelerate in the future. Coupled with the growing domest demand for gas, this could be the beginning of something good.

Posted by: JSobieski at December 6, 2006 10:32 PM

To be extremely vulgar about this incident may I quote Sir Walter Scott:

"And come he slow, or come he fast,
It is but Death who comes at last."
(Marmion II, XXX [I think])

Assuming, of course, that one understands the multiple meanings of the verb 'to come' in English.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 6, 2006 10:33 PM

Don't get your hopes up.

Does anyone TRULY believe that this horrible individual is anything more than a figurehead?

I sure don't.

Posted by: pythagoras at December 6, 2006 10:41 PM

Right! This brings to mind the 9/11 hijackers who were drinking in bars, going to strip clubs and calling escorts before their "religious duty to crash planes into our buildings".

Something interesting I heard on Glenn Beck last night was the French director of a film about suicide bombers he had interviewed that had been captured in Israel. He stated most of them are virgins and told him they wanted to become suicide bombers so they could have sex with 72 virgins. He also interviewed captured female bombers who told him they had hoped to become one of the 72 virgins awaiting the male homicide bombers. The director felt that it was sex related because their religion is so rigid and keeps them deprived from living normal lives, ie, having sex and mixing with the opposite sex. This has been my theory all along as to why someone becomes a homicide bomber, or suicidal terrorist akin to those 9/11 hijackers. In profiling, the majority of them tend to be unmarried virgins.

Posted by: Bonniea at December 6, 2006 10:45 PM

C2:

more likely a fetish with the furry hot-dog !

OH TO LOVE BOYS ! -- KKKoran

oops

Posted by: Crunchy Jello at December 6, 2006 10:45 PM

To be extremely vulgar about this incident may I quote Sir Walter Scott:

"And come he slow, or come he fast,
It is but Death who comes at last."
(Marmion II, XXX [I think])

Assuming, of course, that one understands the multiple meanings of the verb 'to come' in English.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 6, 2006 10:33 PM

Nothing is too vulgar regarding the esteemed(?) Iranian president. The real question is does he come at all?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 6, 2006 10:45 PM

But then, that would lead us to Ecclesiastes Ch.33 v.22:

"Leave not a stain in thine honour."

(Oh, vulgarity, where is thy sting?)

Somebody, for Heaven's sake, stop me. I don't think that I have laughed so much for years!

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 6, 2006 10:45 PM

Bonnie

sex is to Islam as apples are to cancerous AIDS polyps

/cringe

Posted by: Crunchy Jello at December 6, 2006 10:48 PM

Islam Ruins Everything

/echo

Posted by: Crunchy Jello at December 6, 2006 10:51 PM

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad likes to watch the girls at play without viels.. how strange, well you heard how the taliban outlawed any radio or tv. yet when the US took over in Afganistan, the taliban's houses had their tv, videos, etc. all the conforts of the west, but their regular people were not allowed.. a bunch of hypocrites !

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at December 6, 2006 10:52 PM

The real question is does he come at all? Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS

Well, who knows?

But try T.O. Davis for size (gasp, and wiping tears of laughter from my eyes):

"Come in the evening, or come in the morning,
Come when you're looked for, or come without warning."
(From 'The Welcome', I think.)

Seems to fit the bill here, don't you think?

Stop me, please, anyone. I've obviously entered my sex-starved young teenage mode - again!

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 6, 2006 10:59 PM

necessitasnonhabetlegem-

Well, the monkey may come whenever he likes if he's capable of such a feat but if he comes for me I'm running as fast as I can!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 6, 2006 11:10 PM

The poor mule-ahs obviously don't get out much if they think this is such a big deal. Are they jealous that their he-monkey of a president prefers older women to little girls?

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 6, 2006 11:16 PM

ISLAMSFORLOSERS/

Oh, neat one! So:

"Run, rabbit, run, rabbit, run, run, run
Don't give the farmer his fun, fun,fun
He'll get by without his rabbit pie
So run, rabbit, run, rabbit, run, run, run."
(Bud Flanagan and Chesney Allen - 'RUN RABBIT RUN' - 1942 [Ithink])

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 6, 2006 11:20 PM

But then, perhaps Ahmed Dinner Jacket recalled, as the dancing girls entered onto the stage, the immortal words of Charles Dibdin:

"Faithful, below, he did his duty"
(From 'Tom Bowling')

I'm sorry and I know that I am wrong in some respects, but I cannot take this nut-job seriously. He is so far off his trolley that all I can do is laugh and send him up!

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 6, 2006 11:30 PM

I don't know why Spencer even responds to tools like this:

http://www.tomgpalmer.com/archives/041174.php

Still Spencer made him look pretty foolish

Posted by: Charles the Hammer at December 6, 2006 11:34 PM

I'm sorry and I know that I am wrong in some respects, but I cannot take this nut-job seriously. He is so far off his trolley that all I can do is laugh and send him up!

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 6, 2006 11:30 PM

It is indeed hard to take Iran's chief simian seriously when he claims to chat with the Mahdi and pronounces the end of Israel every five minutes. I'm still trying to figure out what the Iranians were thinking when they voted this crackpot into office. He might end up being the death of a lot of them.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at December 6, 2006 11:45 PM

As many of you suggested above"
BOMBARD them with Pornography!! Good lateral thinking@
Then send down lots of alcohol!

What can we send for the women? Any ideas??
Lots of money and divorce papers? If only,,,

Posted by: Gramfan at December 6, 2006 11:45 PM

Atleast my homecountry is trying to protect women for a change.

I am trying to educate people on the position Allah has given women in Islam. I am writing here http://sisterinislam.blogspot.com/ .

I am against the terrorists that hate women. I am sorry that they have become a reality.

Posted by: Sister In Islam at December 6, 2006 11:49 PM

Gramfan/

Remember Kingsley:

For men must work and women must weep, ...
(From: 'The Three Fishers'.)

There may not be much that we can do for women at the moment, regrettably.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 6, 2006 11:54 PM

Sister In Islam/

I checked out your blog.

Why do you lie about the Christian position - openly and blatantly.

All you can do is quote the Old Testament when every Christian knows that the New Testament is the one to live by - the New Testament, the life and works of Christ and His Church - abrogates the Old. You deliberately seek to spread lies and disinformation, just as all other moslems do, in order to enhance, in the worst cheating way imaginable, your own death-worshipping and evil little cult.

If you want to make quotes about women then make them from the New Testament and from the the New Testament societies such as the UK and the USA today and then compare what you have found with the actual position of women in most of the moslem world.

Idiot!

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 7, 2006 12:04 AM

Cyberray, that was a beautiful tribute to your parents; it made me cry. I'm terribly sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Susanp at December 7, 2006 12:05 AM

Behead the Dinnerjacket ! lol

Posted by: Syndic Nuruodo at December 7, 2006 12:13 AM

Dominic, Jesus commanded all his followers to abide by the old law of the jews. He said he did not come to destroy the old law but to fulfill it. He christians believe fulfilled the prophecies of the old testament not remove it.

The UK is not a new testament society. It is a secular society. To it's credit many of it's laws are closer to Islams laws then to christian and jewish religious law.

There are now laws in the new testament about incest or beastiality. Does that make it ok for christians to commit incest. No. The old laws still stand for christianity.

Islam respects women when it is not used by men as a blade to cut women down. Sadly this is not often.

If you wish to learn more ask me and I will speak about it on http://sisterinislam.blogspot.com .

Posted by: Sister In Islam at December 7, 2006 12:38 AM

O.K. Sister,

I'll bite.

Explain 5:33 and how the Taliban and the Saudis got it so wrong.

Posted by: PRCS at December 7, 2006 12:58 AM

Sister In Islam,
You forget who you are speaking to on this site. We have studied your texts, respect for women is not a word that comes to mind when speaking about islam. Women are like livestock or "fields to tilleth as you will". Respect?

Posted by: Carolyn2 at December 7, 2006 1:00 AM

For those who don't know 5:33 is
5:33 "The only reward for those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom..."

Posted by: Carolyn2 at December 7, 2006 1:03 AM

The nicey - nice is before the other shoe drops...

005.032
YUSUFALI: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
PICKTHAL: For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.
SHAKIR: For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.

005.033
YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

Posted by: Carolyn2 at December 7, 2006 1:06 AM

" I don't know why Spencer even responds to tools like this:

http://www.tomgpalmer.com/archives/041174.php

Still Spencer made him look pretty foolish "

I'm really concerned about the number of people that will dismiss/condemn Robert Spencers books without even reading them , and don't even want to see the connections that he is pointing out between the teachings of Islam and the Current state of the Islamic world. 2+2=5 i guess

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 7, 2006 1:34 AM

Thank you, C2.

Perhaps the 'sister' is over at 'Ask The Imam'.

Posted by: PRCS at December 7, 2006 1:41 AM

Canadian,

The first book looks interesting.

Too many Western folk have been lead to believe the 2+2=5 formula concerning Islam, and have no desire to find out how that can be.

Posted by: PRCS at December 7, 2006 1:56 AM

" Canadian,

The first book looks interesting.

Too many Western folk have been lead to believe the 2+2=5 formula concerning Islam, and have no desire to find out how that can be. "

Posted by: PRCS

I used to think that People are People and we all want the same things in life. Not anymore. I can't deny what i see and hear. This Hate and desire to destroy us does not just come from Our meddling or our wickedness. the Ideology is very different between the West and Islam.
When they say " You cannot win because we love Death like you love life " i don't need to understand what we did , i want to know what makes them think like this. Sending your Babies out to kill and blow themselves up is not Desperation, it is Ideology . It is Islam that they do this for. overall the West values Life, and the Islamic simply does not. it's obvious. they tell us as much.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 7, 2006 2:12 AM

CC,

If only President Bush would finally accept that folks in the Middle East have been living the way they do for a long time (and have been Islamized for a long time, too).

The belief that all men want freedom is not true. Sad though their lives appear to us, that IS the life they know.

And you're correct, those Muslims who hate us do so because we're not Muslims.

Here's a link to today's other JW thread concerning Gregory Davis' book:

http://www.foxnews.com/livedesk/index.html

You may have to disable your firewall momentarily to access the video.

What you will see are five people who, to varying degrees, just can't grasp what the author is telling them.

It's why so many of us are still misinformed.

Posted by: PRCS at December 7, 2006 2:39 AM

Sister in Islam is an archetype: the stony-eyed, dead-souled camp follower who recognizes that her best chance at food and toys lies in allying herself, sexually and ideologically, with the local strongman -- in this case, Islam. She knows quite clearly that the Paradise of her creed, with its beautiful self-sealing virgins and pearly catamites, is not for her, and she has refocused herself to her success in the temporal. To this end, she will lie, bald-facedly and without remorse, to mislead others to strengthen her masters.

Anyone with eyes and a mind can see how Islam in practice treats rape victims: with imprisonment, whipping, stoning, and hanging. Anyone who bothers to read the Koran and Hadith know the degradation and subjugation women suffer under Islam's "holiest" tenets -- decreed by a man who himself raped women after killing their families in front of their faces.

Yet like collaborators through history, Sister in Islam continues: whether it means holding a broken bottle to cut a female child in her hand like some, or a stone to cast at a neighbor accused of "zina" like others, or for her a blog that is a composite of disgusting deceptions, she joins a mighty legion that serve as a reminder of the lowest level to which humans can fall.

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter at December 7, 2006 3:28 AM

as noted above:

"He's obviously does that on a regular basis (as the photographer had him under surveillance)."

The president of Iran is nothing but a figure head, the real rulers of Iran are the Ayatollahs.

Ahmadinejad has reported back to the Ayatollahs.
" I was conducting an investigation"

in a cartoon balloon---"Man did you see the hooters on that one"

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 7, 2006 6:39 AM

Those of us old enough to remember the USSR and were aware of the actual state of things will understand this.

The ruling elite enjoyed all kinds of privlidges and goodies while the supposedly EQUAL common person stood in line for goods from stores with no merchandise. Got meat once a week, while the bureaucrats ate and lived in luxury.

I knew personally, many people who traveled there in the 80's. One joke was that we have all the cars while they have all the parking spaces.

Islam is also hypocritical.

Some of these same people told me about the Saudi's ripping off the veils and drinking on the plane as soon as it left the ground in the 80's.
Nothing has changed. This is a Marxist Dream, a "true religion that provides an opiate for the masses".

Posted by: auntbea at December 7, 2006 7:47 AM

Islam is no different. Look at all the wealth from oil. Then look at the priviledged few who benefit from it. (hint: the average citizen see zero benefit from oil wealth).

Posted by: exsgtbrown at December 7, 2006 8:11 AM

Dare we hope...

Could there be more to this?
Could it be that Ahmanutjab has outlived his purpose?

I'm reacting to the idea that someone is watching him, ie. the photographer.

God in Heaven, who or what would they relplace him with?

Posted by: auntbea at December 7, 2006 9:21 AM

This is funny. It demonstrates the absolute hypocracy of the "true" muslim.

I used to work at a major airport in the US. We would get muslim travelers all the time. Frequently, they would head to the bar in the terminal to toss one down. Once in a while they would avail themselves of the resident "sporting ladies".

Once we had a 707 land that belonged to an oil minister of one of the Arab countries. He and his entourage took up residence at the airport hotel while their plane was being upgraded. It seems they had just spent the last four weeks at the casinos in Las Vegas...gambling, whoring and getting slopped. I guess it's ok to sin if you do it out of sight of your imam. After we got their plane "legalized" they went on their merry way...after hitting all the appropriate night spots. We found out later from the airport police they had over 20 million in cash (US dollars) on board to finance their spree. No wonder their bodyguards all had submachine guns.

Allahu Akbar...whatever

Posted by: Sixgun at December 7, 2006 9:28 AM

For the 'low down' on Islams sex and sexuality, go here:

http://islam-watch.org/

Read Abdul Kasems report on Islam and sex...expalins just 'why' Islam treats women as sexual objects...

Posted by: duh_swami at December 7, 2006 10:21 AM

Sister In Islam:

If you are comforted in your position as a Muslim woman by the surahs in the Koran as pertaining to the treatment of woman, than so be it.

(Koran 2:228)--- Men have authority over women
In the home:

(Koran 4:34)--
Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the others, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them."

(Koran 2:233)-- "Mothers shall suckle their children two years completely, for such as desire to fulfill the suckling....But if the couple desire by mutual consent and consultation to wean, then it is no fault in them."

(Koran 66:10)--.
Women who disobey their husband will go to hell.

(Koran 33:51)--
"Thou mayest decline for the present whom thou wilt of them, and thou mayest take to thy bed her whom thou wilt, and whomsoever thou shalt long for of those thou shalt have before neglected; and this shall not be a crime in thee. Thus will it be easier to give them the desire of their eyes... and to satisfy them with what thou shalt accord to each of them."
In society:

(Koran 4:11-12)---
Women do not have equal right to their inheritance
Women receive half of the male share for an equivalent degree of kinship
Women who disobey should be beaten

(Koran 4:34)--
"Good women are obedient.... As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them."

(Koran 33:51)-- Muhammad, who himself had 11 wives allowed marriage of up to four wives.
"Of women who seem good in your eyes, marry but two, or three, or four; and if ye still fear ye shall not act equitably, then one only."

(Koran 4:3)---Islam also allows sexual intercourse with one's slave maids and as many 'captive' women as one desires -- even if those women are married.

Posted by: Mackie at December 7, 2006 11:04 AM

every Christian knows that the New Testament, the life and works of Christ and His Church - abrogates the Old.

Dominic

The New Testament books of John and Romans proves your statement to be utterly and completely false.

Posted by: Bar at December 7, 2006 11:39 AM

Might have to change his name to Ahmadi Najis :)

Posted by: Abu Allah at December 7, 2006 11:50 AM

every Christian knows that the New Testament, the life and works of Christ and His Church - abrogates the Old.

Dominic

No, Dominic. The New Testament is the "fulfillment" of the Old Testament.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at December 7, 2006 12:02 PM

Sister of Islam: we are aware of the Islamic practice of 'taqiyya' here. So you can definitely forget about deceiving us as it's not going to happen. You nay also remember that there are many, many apostates of Islam who have left Islam for good because they discovered Islam respects NO ONE and utterly fails to respect human life in any way.

We have yet to hear from folks such as yourself expressing outraged about Palestinians' strapping bombs onto their children, using women and children as human shields, or throwing acid in the faces of women whose faces are exposed, or the incidents of Muslims committing cannibalism against the "unbelievers" they have murdered.

Like I say, we know everything there is to know about Islam.

So,"sister", please vamoose!

Posted by: pythagoras at December 7, 2006 2:48 PM

Pythagoras:

Actually, I disagree on the vamoose bit...
LET such people continue...because we NEVER EVER want to forget what they truly represent, and their efforts accomplish what they least expect, continuation of alarm about them, and thus, upon the rest of us in the real world (remember, sad to say, many have short memories, and need to be kept reminded of this).

Said persons presence here is actually of benefit to us...they keep proving us right.

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 at December 7, 2006 6:02 PM

we just found the perfect way to get rid of ahmadinejad without realizing it!
get the mans e-mail address and start spamming him with porn!
will it be a public flogging offense?
an offense punishable by impalement?
ill have to check islams book of fiqh!

Posted by: Thndrbang at December 8, 2006 10:51 AM

ok on muslims drinking alcohol and islamic hypocracy!
i found this little gem in islams book of fiqh
(jurisprudence)
þ*** Found in: BOOK O: JUSTICE. -Chapter O-16.0: The Penalty for Drinking. O-16.6- The prohibition of using it for medicine or extreme thirst refers to when it is unadmixed, as opposed to when it is compounded with something else that renders it completely indistinguishable, such that no taste, color, or odor of it remains, in which case it is permissible.)
you know traveling makes one so very thirsty!
even traveling across the street to the bar can make one so very thirsty!

Posted by: Thndrbang at December 8, 2006 11:00 AM

ive come to a conclusion!
in doing so i have found a cause!
the muslims hatred for Jews is abnormal.
for 14 centurys now the muslim have sought and demanded the slaughter and or submission of the Jews!
This comes from allahs command for the muslim to do so!
As long as there are Jews alive that are not living in dhimmitude to the muslims, it proves allah is an imposter satanic diety with no power over man heaven nor earth!
because allah states in the qu'ran the muslims will subdue the Jews! allah claims if there are 10 jihadis they will defeat and subdue 100 Jews!
As long as Jews are alive on this earth and not living in dhimmitude to the muslims it proves their demon possessed messenger of islams satanic diety allah is a false prophet!
islam has failed and will continue to fail!

Posted by: Thndrbang at December 8, 2006 11:13 AM